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Philadelphia - Route 15 Trolley with original PCC Cars - 1990-91
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ส.ค. 2024
- This presentation features scenes of Philadelphia's Route 15 Trolley (Girard Ave and Richmond St), and was filmed in 1990-91. It includes footage of when Route 15 was detoured using 40th / 41st Streets and Lancaster Avenue. Some scenes with Route 10 are also shown. The PCC Cars that were filmed ran on Route 15 until 1992.
My dad Jim McCrory operated the rt 15 trolley for 39 years! So amazing to see this.
Hi michaelmccrory634, Thanks for watching. I'm glad you enjoyed the presentation and appreciate you taking the time to let me know. Cheers, tassiebaz. 😄
I love the old trolleys. The current trams of today may have the more advanced technology but they don't look as interesting as the old trolleys...the old trolleys, like vintage automobiles, are true classics.
Hi Everett, I totally agree!!! Unfortunately they are a rare breed now. Regards, tassiebaz.
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The trolleys they have now are vintage style way before the 90s. Prob 50s 60s era.
Here in Philly. Ride them all the time.
@@MsCDante you ARE very fortunate to have vintage trolleys in Philly to ride in as often as you'd like. 👌😉
Crazy how much has changed since back then.
Now they are painted green.
So true
These trolleys are incredible. How many of today's trains would still be operating after 70+ years is use?
Loved riding the trolley's as a child, about 10 years ago I would take the train into Center City, catch the El to Front and Girard and take the 15 to Westmoreland Street in Port Richmond, parking was and still is awful down in that neighborhood, would take me 15 minutes to find a parking space when I visited my dad.
Hi Lyn, Thanks for watching and for sharing your memories. Maybe one day Route 15 will return as a trolley line. Cheers, tassiebaz.
This is so cool to watch especially since I was from fishtown at the time of filming of the route 15 and now I live at the Richmond street terminal the last stop for the 15...they are bringing them back too! Great video.
Hi Teri B, Thanks for watching and for your kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed the presentation. We're all hoping they will bring back the Route 15 streetcar in the near future. Stay well. Regards, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz I appreciate work like this. It was a good watch so thank you for taking me back. They are putting them back in they just did the entire Richmond street tracks, cable lines, with bump outs into the streets to dock the streetcars. I am excited for it to get finished. Stay well. Regards, Teri.
Hi@@TeriB, Thanks again. I appreciated your comments. Regards, tassiebaz.
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I remember takin the trolley to the zoo on sunday with my brothers,,,i paid a quarter and they rode for free...Also remember when they rerouted the trolley under the I95 expressway
The ironic thing is that they're using the same cars today but as a nostalgia "heritage line", but not even 25 years ago it was just the actual fleet they used
Hi Jonny, Sometimes miracles do happen, as in the case of the streetcars still running on Route 15. To see and ride more of the original fleet, you'll have to visit San Francisco, who bought many of the Philadelphia PCC cars and are running them. Regards, tassiebaz.
Jonny Watts it’s not a heritage line though, it just runs the heritage cars. A heritage line is like the New Orleans trolley thing, a tourist trap. The 15 trolley is part of the trolley system and thousands of people depend on it every day. During the winter they often use the modern trolleys to ensure it keeps running, they dispense with the nostalgia when it’s not convenient.
Great stuff - I could watch these scenes for hours! Thanks for posting!!
Hi Jackson, Thanks for watching and for the kind words in your comment. I hope you will have a look at some of my other presentations, which you may also find equally interesting. Stay well, Cheers, tassiebaz.
We had these same pcc street cars in toronto....as a little kid i remember that just seeing one coming was exciting and riding one was just as fun as a rollercoaster. I really do miss the automobiles of yesterday
Hi, Yes, there are a lot of nice things to be said about the good old days. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Those trolleys had no air in the summer I remember when I was a kid
Hi TheCarSection, You are correct, but they did have windows that opened and heat in the winter. Thanks for watching. Stay well. Regards, tassiebaz.
I was a trolley operator on Rt 15 in 1972 , it was a good line.
Hi R C, Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Maybe they'll put the trolleys back on Rt 15 some day. Many of my pictures were taken about the time you were an operator. Perhaps you re in some of them. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
I put 40 years in Septa, 8 years as a operator 1 year on 15 and 10 out of Callowhill Depot and 7 years on rt 11,13,34,and 36 out of Woodland depot and the remaining years inside.
@@rc9557 Hi, 40 years at SEPTA. I hope they gave you a medal. Please have a look at my other videos on Routes 10, 11, 13, 34, and 36 as well as the Luzerne routes and route 23. You may enjoy them. Cheers, tassiebaz.
I miss these days
Hi phantom 313, Thanks for watching and for your comment. I think that most of us who were around miss many things about the "good old days". Regards, tassiebaz.
Brings back memories!!
"In West Philadelphia born and raised. On the trolley is where I spend most of my days."
Hi john, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Cheers, tassiebaz.
10:00 Check out the cigarette ad on the billboard!
At this time this was beside cinema advertisement, the only possible way.
I wish they’d bring back the trolleys. Used to have them in S. Philly too, Snyder and on Tasker Morris Routes
Hi Rachel, Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. SEPTA claims Route 15 will return when they overhaul the trolleys. We can hope. As for the South Philly trolleybus routes, 29 and 79, they are permanently bus now. There are a still few trolleybus routes operating in the Northeast. Regards, tassiebaz.
Now that's a great find and all
Glad they brought trolleys back to the rt 15
Hi Christopher, Me too, even though they're not running this summer. Can't wait for Richmond Street to re-open. Thanks for watching the video. tassiebaz
tassiebaz Hello. All this track work just ensures that the 15 line will be stabilized for quite sometime, long-term which is great. I'm also glad that Girard ave is looking better than in the 90s. I'm definitely waiting for the return of Richmond st but don't hold your breath because they paved over the tracks around Allegheny and Richmond Street so they have to replace those tracks as well.
Hi Christopher, I just hope they maintain the cars so they have enough to tun the line. It'll be interesting to see what service they run to Northern Liberties Loop. tassisbaz
Update. Unfortunately the Pccs are no longer in service. Septa is running buses for the line because the trolleys need repairs and I95 construction so until late 2021 is when we'll see streetcars again. They are rebuilding the trolley loop and new tracks at Richmond st so that ensures streetcars will be back
From late 1961 to early 1962, I would visit my uncle in Philadelphia every other weekend while I was going through Navy radioman school in Bainbridge, MD. I would take the subway from the bus station to the northern part of town and transfer to a trolley line and ride the PCC to within a block of his apartment. Great memories!
Hi Jerry, Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. I'm glad the presentation brought back some good memories for you. Regards, tassiebaz.
For me, it's new to see a tram car alone.
I was used a tram system, where a car never was alone, always hooked with another motorized one or a passive one.
Now the trams are usually very long, nearly as a subway train.
In Philadelphia city, the trams never were used as more than one. In the Philadelphia suburban area, they sometimes coupled two cars together. Boston and Cleveland (Shaker Heights) regularly used more than one PCC car coupled together Cheers, tassiebaz.
Now they are green.
Actually the green #15 trolleys are replicas of vintage trolleys from the 60's.
This video is like going back in time to when I was a Freshman in high school and wasn’t exposed to the wonders of having my own set of wheels so I had to use the 15 trolley, the 60 trolley, and the old 89 bus route if I ever wanted to leave Port Richmond/Fishtown as a kid . Because even though both of those neighborhoods are completely different now then 30 years ago back in 1991 no one argued if you technically live in Fishtown or if you are really from Port Richmond because it was all the same type of skilled middle class people who for most families may be 2nd generation Americans and they raised their families in row homes , saved every penny they could because they were going to send their kids to college.I can tell you this because I still live down there that it’s being completely taken over from money out of New York , you can forget about Fishtown and Port Richmond ( Port Richmond and Kensington share a zip code so when they rate neighborhoods in the city Port Richmond ends up as being loaded with empty abandon houses , dangerously high level of crime , and a army of homeless junkies living under every train bridge. But that’s so far from the reality of things that when people come into the city for the first time and tell me they were in a cool bar or new restaurant In Fishtown, I ask for the location to see if I have been there and half the time I tell them you were in Port Richmond not Fishtown then show them on a map . The first thing they say to me is where’s all the crime and decay we read about in some magazine article? I then break out my other map I cut out of the local newspaper and had traced out the three separate neighborhoods that all share the same zip code, 1. Kensington, 2. Harrowgate, and 3. Port Richmond. Then they understand things a little better and it explains how 2 out of the 3 neighborhoods in the same zip code are really dangerous and the crime is high and the junkies will rob you or kill you for 25 cents but Richmond has never been a bad area , every empty lot or old building are being either built on or with 600,000 dollar prefab houses that are all sold before one shovel of dirt has been moved , and all of those old factories that sit empty in the no mans land which is what we call the area between Frankford ave and Aramingo ave have been turned into these huge lofts with off street parking , indoor pools , giant roof decks with separate bungalows on them for people who invite their friends over for the weeks they can stay in these two room one bathroom bungalow on a roof deck that’s 4 stories up above the level with amazing views of the city skyline , the river , and you can see the art museum which means fireworks in the summertime.
Hi Mr Big, Thanks for watching and for your comprehensive and insightful comment. Let's also mention what happening in nearby Northern Liberties, where an huge transformation has already taken place and is still going. Maybe, one day, Kensington will also be turned around and become a decent area again. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
5:17-If I didn't know any better, I'd swear I was looking at Toronto in the early '90's, so similar are the streets.
Hi Neville6000, Thanks for watching and for your interesting comment. I'm not familiar enough with Toronto to express an opinion. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
12:03-This part reminds me of the streetcar running along the Gardiner Expressway to the CNE (Canadian National Exhibition) grounds & loop here in Toronto.
Hi Neville6000, This part of the line and the street has been completely rebuilt (for the last ten years or so), and the line has not run on it yet. It'll be interesting to see when (and if) it does return. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Wow Class Video
Hi James, Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment about this video. I am glad you enjoyed it. Regards, tassiebaz
Damn why was 9094 so loud
some of the K -cars 1981 wheels were different
My brother kept those wires up. Also drove 23 car
Hi Ted, Thanks for watching and to your brother for helping to keep the line running. Cheers, tassiebaz.
I had this dream where SEPTA replaced the PCC2 trolleys with the Kawasaki trolleys, on Girard avenue, and they had to paint the 15 Kawasaki trolleys with the color scheme that was used on the PCC2 trolleys. So that people don't get confused on if the trolley was 15 or 10.
Hi Toy, Thanks for watching and for sharing your dream. Sounds like a SEPTA nightmare. They didn't run the Kawasaki cars on Route 15 because they are not ADA compliant (no wheelchair lifts), although a few did sneak out there when the 15 first started running again. Of course, there is no mistaking the buses running on the 15 now for the Kawasaki cars, and who knows when (and if) the PCC2s will be back. Cheers, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz hi, tassiebaz. You can call me Miss Prime, if you want to. You're welcome. And yeah, It does sound like a SEPTA based nightmare, but the real nightmare would be the rebranding of train service that SEPTA is planning on doing, for 40m$ because of the research saying that new riders are confused by SEPTA's current signage. SEPTA should have some employees or older riders help educate the new riders and help the new riders navigate around SEPTA, instead of rebranding the trains to SEPTA metro and such, because the older riders will then get confused, like "which one was the market frankford line before renaming? Which one was the broad street line before renaming?" After the rebranding... if SEPTA doesn't want to confuse new riders, they have to get an older rider to help the new riders to learn about SEPTA and how to navigate it. Since the rebranding will confuse the older riders.
We don't need SEPTA copying STM (Montreal public transit) or RTD (Denver (the colorado state one) public transit)
Yeah, they'll never operate Kawasaki trolleys on 15, because of the ADA compliance, and such. Also, the buses are easy to tell if they're buses or not. Because tires, and the lowering of the bus and rising of the bus and the ramps and such. Also, buses have different markings than Kawasaki trolleys. But same color and such. Just different patterns.
Hi Miss Prime, SEPTA always has grand ideas, sometimes just not practical however. They should just concentrate on providing better and more reliable safe service. Regarding trolleys vs buses, I'm sure most people don't care what shows up as long as it takes them where they want to go. Regarding confusing Routes 10 and 15, the only place that could happen is Lancaster & Girard. I think the 15 stops are on Girard, and the 10 stops are on Lancaster. Cheers, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz hi, tassiebaz. I understand. And I wonder, Should we riders suggest ideas to SEPTA to help SEPTA become better and such? They should really concentrate on providing a safe ride for passengers. We don't need SEPTA ending up like RTD. Low ridership because of problems. Heck, my friend Catie Bowman thought of bringing a pocketknife with her when she went to go to ride the market frankford line, just to make sure she stays safe from rapists and other criminals on SEPTA.
The lines 10 and 15 can get confusing. But with knowledge of geometry and concepts of perpendicular lines, they're not so hard to tell apart, also, nowadays, with the 15 being a PCC2 trolley that has green marking on it. and the 10 being a Kawasaki trolley and white with red and blue marking, it's easy to tell the difference. And yes 15 stops on girard and 10 stops on Lancaster.
@@SamanthamusPrimeV28050 Hi, Yes, if you think you have a good idea or just want to make a comment, I would definitely contact SEPTA. I think they have a contact form on their website.
I don't know how much good a pocketknife would be. It might be met with increased violence and used against her. I can't imagine what a good defense would be. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Isn't that the newer all electric P C C - window and standee window more curves in window frame. Old Air Electric had squared windows w-o -larger low ones though
Hi Judy, Thanks for watching and for your comment. You are correct in what you have said. Although I don't have exact measurements, The windows on the "air cars" appear more square and larger. One factor in that is that the "air cars" had no standee windows. Regards, tassiebaz.
In Baltimore we have Carey and Cumberland. PWG
Hi Paul, Thanks fir watching and for your comment. Cheers, tassiebaz.😄
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Hi Lazar, Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Really nice and what SEPTA did to the 29 & 79 trolleybus routes was turned them into diesel-powered routes until 2018-2019 that's when they went electric bus again using the battery powered type what would have been better for 29 & 79 buses in South Philadelphia is operate them as dual mode trolleybuses that means they actually charge using the trolley bus wires and also Bus Depot charging enable them to operate both trolley bus routes and Diesel powered routes like the 37 South Philadelphia to airport & 55 Philadelphia to Doylestown routes. These PCCs should have air conditioning units if you look at them right now. For SEPTA if they need new trams to operate 15,34, & 36 tram routes perhaps CAF Urbos example of them Boston 3900s Alstom Citadis Ottawa Confederation Line & Bombardier Flexity Minneapolis St Paul.
Hi EpicThe112, Thanks for watching and for your comprehensive comment. SEPTA seems intent in converting whatever electric lines the can to diesel. You are correct about 29 and 79. They could have used dual mode vehicles and kept the wire. SEPTA is talking about new trams for the subway surface routes, but it may take them a while to do anything about it. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz That's not good and for 59,66 & 75 Electric bus routes North Philadelphia area they should get XT40s with dual mode capable
@@EpicThe112 , These current trolley buses that are used on 59, 66, and 75 have a diesel-driven auxiliary power unit, which provides electric power to the motors to enable limited operation away from overhead trolley wires. That's the best we can hope for. Cheers, tassiebaz.
2129 with the italicized SEPTA font.
Hi Christopher, Thanks again. I believe that 2129 is also now at the Pikes Peak Trolley Museum at Colorado Springs, CO. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Too bad how I don't have that Los Angeles have any of the street cars
Hi Paul, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
2722 was a good car.
Hi Christopher, Thanks for watching and for your comment. I believe that 2722 is now at the Pikes Peak Trolley Museum at Colorado Springs, CO. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
5:18 A Kawasaki Trolley
Hi TH-cam Mario, Thanks for watching and for your comment. The Kawasaki was a Route 10 pull-out from the depot to the route. The next scene is a pull-in. Regards, tassiebaz.
Lots of scenes of Fishtown when it was old school before the hipsters invaded!
Hi Paul I, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Yes, it was the good old days!!! Regards, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz I lived at Gaul and Susquehanna from 1978 to 1982. Just off Girard Ave...the Route 15 of course!
Hi @@pauli6043, Amazingly enough, it's still running. Hopefully the Richmond part will be reinstated shortly. Regards, tassiebaz.
Before the hipsters destroyed our neighborhood. They think they are making it better, it's never been dirtier or more crowded.
Guess he could'nt stand o the corner between 5th and 18th 😂
Hi S Edney, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
VEICULOS DE TRANSPORTE COLETIVOS DE PRIMEIRA QUALIDADE. NÃO ÉH ESTAS MERDAS QUE TEMOS NO BRASIL.
In East Europe, this kind of street car was standard, because Czechoslovakia copied the design.
Hi Rob, Thanks for watching and for your comment. I've got pictures of some of them in my other presentations. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.