About 2 years ago, I bought a Dewalt DCS575T2 Flexvolt saw kit with a fast charger and 2 Flexvolt batteries DCB606, it performs really well, meets my needs, I got rid of my Harbor Freight corded circular saw in the process. Obviously, a 60V motor is definitely gonna outperform its "little brother" 20V -- whether the "Power Detect" version or "Flexvolt Advantage" version. I got a few more DCB606 batteries while buying other 60V tools later. Therefore, I'd keep that DCS575 60V circular saw and would never want to replace it with these so-called "Power Detect" or "Flexvolt Advantage". This demonstration video has shown it to me one more time that I've made the right choice 2 years ago when I purchased that DCS575T2 Flexvolt circular saw kit. Thank you for your time, Brian, I highly appreciate your efforts anyway.
Couldn't agree more ,I have the Flexvolt 575 as well ,it is unstoppable, I can do full depth rips in Australian hardwood with ease ,there is no point in replacing it and I use the Flexvolt batteries on my 20 volt XR tools, win win .
I also bought the Flexvolt 575 2 years ago and it was and still is a beast. It got me into the 60v power platform and I have added the newest Flexvolt Advantage 60v Recip saw. Very nice saw, plenty of power with 60v. Going to add the Flexvolt Advantage drill when it hits my price point. Hoping you do a similar comparison with the advangtage drill. Keep up the good videos. Very informative.
Helo! I have these two saws in duplicate “2 of 18v and also 2 of 54v” the 4 saws work almost daily in professional use, and so far they have never given me any problems. They are incredibly fantastic, and although both are very identical in size and weight, the FlexVolt 54v are actually more powerful! withstand cuts with maximum thickness of high hardness wood without any difficulty. I forgot to mention that I am from Portugal, and the manufacture of both 4 saws is Germanic. I love your channel! I only follow 5 tool channels on TH-cam and yours is one of the 5 channels I follow! I thank you for your fantastic videos, I like a good channel where humility is present and always a good safety advice to help us not make it easy when it comes to the safety of handling any tool! Until the next video! Helder da Silva.
Been in the trades for a few years now. Framed with the 60V for a year and loved the saw. I ended up buying the 20V for myself but today I finally made the decision to buy the 60V. The 20V was okay but I found it a lot weaker and had trouble cutting, personal I don’t think it’s a saw you can frame with. If you’re going to buy a saw get the 60v
I've had the 60v for over two years now doing siding. Lp/ hardy/ framing lumber, lap/ board and baton/ shakes. This saw will bury the blade in anything and not bog down. I love it.
Wow , it's getting a little hard to keep track of what's what. Having options is always a good thing , but this is getting crazy. There is no doubt that the Flexvolt is the King of circular saws concerning power....and being a Milwaukee guy that's hard to say...but the truth is the truth. Your right when say that you cannot ever have enough power especially when your on the job...it's getting late and you have a deadline to meet and you still have quite a bit of cutting to do....in a perfect world blades would stay sharp forever but sadly we all know that's just not the case. Where the Flexvolt truly shows it power is when you don't have a new spare blade with so all you have is what you have....a dull blade. This is where the extra power pays for itself big-time. So if I was a team yellow guy....buy the real deal and be done with it. Excellent demonstration comparing the two saws showing what they can and cannot do....Great vid brother. Sorry about the long winded post..😁
We seem to be caught up in product line madness now where no one is ever satisfied ,btw I have been doing framing and all sorts of carpentry for thirty years efficiently just with basic tools ie a lightweight Makita corded 7 1/4" circ saw and a basic battery drill and never gave it a second thought ,I did get a Flexvolt 575 circ saw and various other Dewalt cordless tools a couple of years ago and love the power and convenience. I still like my corded stuff though.
You're acknowledging the absence of your PPE towards the end of the video, and the importance of using them was steller! It made my heart smile. Good comparison video.
I just got the DCS573 Flexvolt advantage after being undecided for a long time because I had my good old 6-1/2’’ saw and it was okay most times. But those times when I needed that extra power, I just couldn’t stand it. I felt inadequate. When I first tried the Flexvolt advantage saw, I knew right away I had made the right decision. The 60v saw was a bit unnecessary for my use, but the 20v Flexvolt advantage is the perfect fit for me. I have other 20v tools and I also have one Flexvolt tool so it all made sense for me to get this
Jake A. I gave my impact drivers away. They are really noisy. I do have an impact wrench the 400 type and use it occasionally with ear protection. It's the metabo. It's got a dial up to 12 and at 5 can loosen car tyre nuts.
@@ron1martens yeah. Would be great if they would make a hydraulic version of the impact like what milwaukee and makita have done. In fact, I use dlthe drill and not impact for driving screws at home to keep the noise down.
@@ron1martens a lot of people swear by Milwaukee 12v line because they have 2 types of new impacts (I think it’s 2 or maybe 3 because fuel) but one is powerful but they also have one that is very quiet but not the strongest you can get but this quiet one can also take off car lug nuts and most things you can throw at it Overall try Milwaukee they are great
Today 11 good advice. I have a cordless Milwaukee sander and one drill 18 volt. I did have the 12 volt high speed polisher with a 2 amp hour battery I think. That was one of the tools I had stolen. Would be good to take your advice and buy a 12 volt 4 amp hour battery Milwaukee. I do have the combination charger. One of the aspects of having your tools stolen is to upgrade. The only thing is the money part of things work and saving.
Hey BrIan! Another thorough, classy, and no nonsense review. The 20 Volt version(s) have come a long way, but if anyone out there gets the chance, just pick up the actual 60 Volt Flex Volt saw. I was lucky to pick up one of the last ‘Special Buy’ ones this Summer, that came with the 6 amp charger, 3.0/9.0 60 Volt battery, 2.0 20 volt battery, and compact hammer drill, for $279.00! The latest model is a beast! My only qualms lies with the durability and reliability of the 60 Volt packs. I have yet to have a problem, but have heard of people having batteries fail. They are a very complicated battery. I avoid heat, unnecessary stress, and NO dropping them! 😬 Thanks and stay safe and Healthy! 👍😁🇺🇸🎃
George Da Vall. I seen a person bring in the 12 amp hour battery for warranty work as something happened to it. I too have heard some issues with the flexibolt dewalt batteries. Like you mention don't let them overheat. Here's something interesting. I went to my local tool place and was told some of the tools going up north Western Australia. As soon as the machine is turned on it blows up. The temperature up north is around 46 degree Celsius or more. I didn't get the full jest of what the technician mentioned only that the tools weren't designed to stand the heat. So imagine the handler turning on the machine and it blows up I mean the electronics not actually blowing up more like a short circuit. It would certainly give one a startle.
@@ron1martens I am in Qld and is bloody hot ,my Flexvolt batteries run cool ,the only tools I've seen run hot are Milwaukee, because they are drawing to many amps out of 18 volt system.
interman 77 you have a valid point there interman. Are you up north from Brisbane? I guess the more North you go the hotter or humid it gets. Not sure if it's the same as north west. I will refresh what the technician mentioned regarding tools made for European conditions opposed to mining locations. When dewalt came out with their flexivolt it was a revolutionary move. Milwaukee however do throw a lot of technology at their lineup with Joseph Galea the CEO pouring billions into their research.
Hey, thanks for this video on these 2 saws. It's great to see that difference last year I bought the 60v saw and it does great for me I have pretty much moved away from my other circular saw and corded saw
I have the flexvolt, and that thing is a monster. Has more power than a corded saw. I've had it since it came out, probably 5 years ago. And it's still kicking
I already had the impact driver and c couple of 3Ah batteries. I just bought the 60 volt saw with the 9Ah battery and the 20 volt flex volt advantage 999 drill which also came with a 6 amp hour 60 volt battery. That gave me two compatible batteries for my 60 volt saw. On the tools that have the expensive batteries it doesn't make sense to buy the bare tool, because for instance with the saw you pay about $100 extra and you get a $220 battery and an $80 charger. Two 60 volt batteries is enough for me to keep my saw going for most jobs. And frankly if that's not enough I have the best corded DeWALT circular saw that DeWalt makes and if I need more capacity I will use that.
I have three 5.0 Ah 20 V batteries and I’m only planning to buy FlexVolt batteries (don’t have any 60v tools yet), so my choice is obviously a FlexVolt Advantage saw. If I had a couple of FV batteries, I’d go with the blackened finish saw. Easy as that:)
@@davegordon6943 I bought mine about 18 months ago at a small local hardware shop Viking Lumber. Sorry I don't know where to go now that everyone is out of everything.
Another Milwaukee guy watching the video and coming away impressed. Actually I’ve just started in Milwaukee and hope to be taking advantage of some of the amazing deals out there this season. With all that being said, both of these saws seem to have some great features and capabilities, but it’s interesting to see a great side by side demonstration, especially walking up the various battery sizes and then for the true Flexvolt saw to still clearly dominate in raw power. I have to say I am impressed. Also, huge kudos on addressing the eye protection oversight head on, instead of waiting for it to be fought out in the comments section. We all could stand to be a little more willing to don the proper PPE; it’s quick to do (and it’s waaay faster than a trip to ER!) Ain’t nothin’ macho about losing an eye unnecessarily (unless you’re a pirate....because, necessary or not, it really does enhance that particular esthetic.) P ___ ) Arrrrgh!
Thank you for posting. I have a few 20v max tools and batteries. My uses for circular saw is minor construction on weekends. So if I can get a deal (Home Depot often has in short runs) of 20v flex with battery/charger combo from Home Depot for $199 I’ll do it Getting the 20v max saw by itself $149. The 20v flex $199 (better choice) or go all in for 60v flex kit. (normally $299). Decisions, but at least I know I would be more future proofing going to 20v flex over 20v max.
Bottom line, if your using a cordless circular saw, let the blade cut at it own pace and you will not bog down the motor. Granted the 60v flex volt is a beast of a tool, but if you can't justify spending the money to replace a perfectly good 20v Dewalt saw, the 20 v is fine just a little bit slower. If you want speed and brute power get a skill worm drive saw.
I'm now convinced to get a FLEXy even though I already have a 7-1/4 ver1.5 (When they added a rafter hook to version1). I'm curious how that new 6-1/2 brushless circ compares to a 7-1/4, compared to the 4-1/2 atomic.
Great video. Thanks for the nuance showing the difference between flexvolt and flexvolt advantage - I'll go with the 573 as I will rarely need more power and, as you showed, will get a longer run time. Thanks again!
I think dewalt has all these lines based on the lowes vs HD wars. That said I picked up the flexvolt advantage circular saw because I don't always need my flexvolt batteries in the van and on the job.
thanks, it clears up my choice. Since (Nov/Dec 2021) Dewalt is running a $199 for a 4AH + 6AH battery deal for $199 and you get get the the 20V DCS573B for free, I'm going with that if I can talk Santa into it.
Hey Brian, thanks for tackling such a confusing test ,I have the 1st gen Flexvolt 575 and it's awesome but I might just grab a 573 to use my lighter 5 amp batteries on lighter work and also I have the option of using the Flexvolt batteries as well .👍Win WIN.
Man. Dewalt had to stroke Home Depot a little bit I think that’s why they introduced the Flexvolt Advantage, that way you have equally competing lines at both Home Depot and Lowe’s. Even though yes, Power Detect is technically different from Flexvolt Advantage, they both operate on the same principles. So the next thing would be run time. Does Power Detect with the 8.0AH and 21700 cells give you more/less/equal run time than the Flexvolt Advantage with a 9.0AH and 21700 cells? It’s 1.0AH more for the Flexvolt Advantage so that should equate to a little bit more run time. And since the 8.0AH and now all of the Flexvolt Batteries now have 21700 cells they will run cooler and are less likely to over heat. I think it’s a wash between the Flexvolt Advantage and Power Detect overall. I agree with you Brian the actual Flexvolt is where you want to go if power and torque is what you’re after above all else. Great review as always thanks brotha!
From my use today after the video posted, the 9Ah FV lasts a touch longer than the 8Ah in the power detect, just as you would expect. The FVA does have a tinge more power than the PD, most likely due to the 3P battery on it.
Hi Mike, you will find the 60 volt batteries output a lot of amps, but at the expense of runtime. As Brain said, it helps to already have FlexVolt batteries, if you pick up the 60 volt saw. And definitely have one of the yellow Fast chargers! They usually come in the kits. Peace!
My god man. 4:48 that sounded like a tornado whipping through a mobile home park at full speed. How could you not smile at that shit. Freakishly powerful for a portable battery tool
I think if I was doing this for a living I would just bite the bullet and get the fv. I just bought the fv advantage for my diy stuff at home, I do not think I’m going to regret not getting the more expensive one, they are both killer, plus I can use my regular 20v batteries on them. Good vid.
I think its cool saw from dewalt but at my opinion if you have flexvolt baterie already go and buy the flexvolt saw .. its a litlle bit confusing from dewalt
Great informative stuff. Just purchased the advantage, which will work for my application as industrial/commercial electrician and personal home use, so not too much power needed there. Looks like an 8ah XR for $140 will get me by. Think someone alluded to this point, but anyway; Flex volt looks like it runs one battery as two: two hots, two neutrals, two grounds. Same thing going as a circ saw with twin batteries like Makita.
Due to some unforeseen reasons I am in need to switch out my ryobi powertools for another brand. Dewalt at the moment makes the most sense for me as currently we have a 15% off deal at the entire dewalt catalog. I noticed the flexvolt advantage tools and to me they look more interesting than the actual flexvolt tools. As I'm just using the tools for DIY type of things and other personal use I don't really NEED the ultimate power of the flexvolt saw. But what brings me to spend the little extra on the advantage saw is that when I register we also get a flexvolt accu send to our home. Which means that along with the advantage angle grinder I'd pick up and an advantage circular saw (body only) I'd end up with a total of 3 6AH flexvolt batteries. I might not get the full potential out of them right now but it surely already opens up a very nice corner to later on have easier (cheaper) access to the dewalt garden tools like lawnmowers and chainsaws. (also who can say no to 2 free flexvolt batteries? XD) Just my thought and point of view as a soon to be new Dewalt user.
I hit on this pretty late in a long video, sorry. I think the FlexVolt Advantage has the edge for power, but you really need to look at what works for you best. Do you plan on buying more FlexVolt batteries or high capacity 20-volt batteries. If you want the most power, the actual FlexVolt is where it's at. The difference between the FA and PD is minimal, bit noticable if used directly side by side one after the other.... But in the real world, you have to invest in the tools that fit your future battery platform.
I'm going to stop at 12:00 min do as I say not as I do. Joking only having a lend of you ha ha. At least that board is not as bad as mdf. Sometimes the chips or fine dust goes between the safety glasses. And goggles reduces sight significantly. A respirator will help. I find even with a vacuum attachment on trimming not much dust is collected. Definitely a big difference in power between the two saws. I know you did push the machine a bit hard for demonstration purposes. There are contractors who always push their machines and when they take the machine in for service complain the machine isn't any good. I often have heard contract fixers killing their machine particularly makita planers hearing them scream and bog down. Because they are on a tight price. They flog their machine day in day out. The flexvolt on the 54 volt machine is a beast. Very impressive.
From Surinam, South America: tnx for all your usefull videos, so i can order the right tool with the right amount of power. I really depend on these videos, because we don't have lowe's or home depot. If the tool is not as good or just the wrong tool, i can't send it back.....so thank you 🙏🙏🙏
If I have a lot of production work to do on sawstools I'll usually just run a corded saw . But man o man I love my Flexvolt saw it has made my life so much easier.
I use 2ah all over, preferred mobility for my home tools (Not professional). How will a 2ah battery cope with simple cutting for home usage on the 573 ?
The saw will have no power. You need a 5.0 Ah at a minimum for these larger tools and even then, I would not want to cut with a 5 Ah battery through any amount of lumber.
I didn’t have a circular saw to begin with. Currently the 573B tool only is 250 and the 578 kit came with a 9AH and 6a charger for 330. Decided to go with the 578. Just going to wait on a FV battery sale to pick up some extras. The 570 with a 4ah is 307. Pricing drives me nuts… lol
Didn't the flexvolt advantage come with a new 6amp flexvolt battery with 21700 cells I think there is something in those batteries that communicate with the saw
They all come bare tool. There is a new style 6Ah, but it delivers the same power, or close as the new style 9ah. As long as you are using the new style Flexvolts, you will get more power. The 9Ah I am using is the new style.
I had the 6 1/2 20 volt and it didn't meet my needs I was going through batteries left and right cutting Red Oak. I used my friends 7 1/4 20 volt max and I like the song that I seen an awesome deal on the flexvolt so I bought it and immediately fell in love with it. Next one delicious the worm drive flexible which I'm sure will become my favorite saw now the 7 1/4 20 volt Max and 20 volt Max with flexvolt advantage are both 5500 rpm saws. The flexvolt is 5800 rpm. Now tell me what do you mean by advantage and 55% more power?? If a soul is ready for $5,500 RPM you're not going to make it go more so really what's the advantage???
Thank you very helpful review i will get the new flexvolt saw. We just had new flexvolt advantage and new flexvolt come out in New Zealand it is confusing all different types
Thanks for the video!! Gonna have to get the flexvolt advantage saw because on a plane, 5.0 ah batteries are the max you can bring!! So, this video convinced me which to get. Thanks again!!
I have no idea why they don’t push their prices lower instead of having all this stuff compete with flexvolt when now flexvolt is cheaper than 8ah kits
All of these battery options have my head spinning :O As an current owner of the OG 20v Max XR (DCS570) what is the HIGHEST SPEC battery pack I can get for my saw?
I don't yet own a circular saw and don't have ANY Dewalt systems. I plan on building some raised gardens using 2x10s and contemplating the 20V Max XR vs the FlexVolt 7 1/4 Circular saws. My power tool "collection" consists of an old B&D Cordless and a Ryobi corded sander. Both can be upgraded in the future, as I want to move to a single battery system. As the FlexVolt batteries are beastly to put on something as simple as a drill/driver, would it make more sense for me to go with the 20V over FlexVolt?
@WorkshopAddict Great review! I am looking to buy my first circular saw for DIY work. I don't currently own any Dewalt battery system tools. My only Cordless tool is an old B+D drill. I am trying to decide between these 2 but they just seem so similar. Since I don't have any Dewalt 20V or Flexvolt batteries, which direction would you recommend?
Correct me if I’m wrong. But a 20v 5ah battery is just that no more. It’s the amount of run time u get at a consistent 20 volts. A 2.5 amp hour battery in theory should run at 20v max at half that of a 5ah battery. So it does not matter if u have a 2.5 or a 5ah battery the 2.5 will give the max 20v as the 5ah just for a shorter amount of time period that’s it. Just Bc it’s a bigger amp hour battery doesn’t make it stronger it makes it last longer no more no less. Now on the normal max dewalt using a flex volt battery is a different story. Say u have a 5ah flex volt 20/60v battery but your gonna use it with the max saw that’s 20 volts the flex volt smart technology moves that 60v battery to a 20v battery this is where the change is since that 60v battery is 3 times stronger it in theory should run longer. If it’s a 3ah 60v battery it should run as long as a 9ah 20v battery. Now where is the power? That’s where the flex volt tool and battery come into play it’s a 60v tool and battery yes it has more power 2/3 more power than the 20 volt max. Now say ur using a flex volt tool and battery then u have a 20v tool and battery. If you have both batteries that’s 5 ah they should run about the same amount of time you just have more power with the flex volt Bc it’s a 60v tool not a 20v tool your working with 40 more volts than the 20. So the voltage rating =power of the tool the amp hours = is amount of run time at full voltage. The only comparison is run time on a 20v tool with the flex volt 60v battery so if you wanna convert to 60v system the flex volt battery makes this easier for you. You can start by buying 60v batteries and chargers bc that’s a large expense and keep ur 20v tools till u get your 60v tools coming in. And while ur swapping you should get about three times the runtime out of the flex volt than your normal 20v battery. It gives u they ability to swap piece by piece and not have to go buy the 60v tool and battery and chargers all at the same time. I could have explained this in shorter terms but I’m long winded so if I’m wrong lmk. I’d like to know.
As an electronics technician, I completely agree. 20V is 20V. Ah is capacity. I understand people not realizing this because marketers try to keep people in the dark to make more sales.
Great video, thank you. I'm looking at getting a Dewalt 20V polisher, seeing in reviews they do like power like a saw. Pricing the Flexvolt 6.0ah 2-pack for $200, and a single 12ah for $200. Which do you think would be a better option, more runtime ? Close to the same time with one vs two ? Thank you
I am actually on the fence for just getting a corded polisher like a Torq brand as well. Just trying to balance the pros and cons to them. I do love the convenience of cordless, but for this tool in particular, is it worth it.
Two 6.0 Ah batteries will last as long as one 12Ah battery. We have proved this over and over. I would probably go with multiple 21700 9Ah battery packs. IMHO, I only use my cordless for the hood and hard to reach areas of the car. My corded models are lighter and more powerful.
@@WorkshopAddict thank you. I was looking at the 9ah as well, and not much less than a 12 currently, I'll have to watch for some sales. As nice as cordless will be, 95% of the time, I would be using the buffer in a shop with power all over too. I'm just like any other tool nut though, if the option is possible 🤷♂️😂. Your point about having more power will probably sway me to a corded for now, and watch for sales. Hopefully they offer a free tool with purchase on them soon. They did with saws and multis last month.
Just so everyone knows "AH" (amp hours) is a measure of capacitance, not current (amps). So your 2ah battery is going to deliver as much as the 8, but it will need to be recharged 4x as much. Some of these tests are redundant, but thank you for selling me on the 60v system lol
I have the 60V system and it is a beast. I think it has more power than the corded saws I have used. :-) A point of clarity. What you said about AH being capacity is correct though there is a relationship to how much current a real battery can supply and its capacity. Due to internal resistance in a battery, typically a lower capacity battery cannot output as much current as a battery pack with a larger capacity of the same type (lithium, NiMH, etc.). As the battery pack capacity increases, the effective internal resistance goes down and therefore it can supply a greater total current without having as much voltage sag. Hope that helps! Have fun with the new tool! .
True and false statement. If your different Ah cells have the same Amp output, you would be correct. In the tool world, I have proved your statement wrong in 2 of the last 3 videos I did. All because the higher Ah packs provide more amps. A typical 2Ah pack is 1P and a 4 or 5 Ah pack is 2P, and 2P can provide more amps.
Anecdotally my higher amp hour batteries give my Dewalt stuff a bit more gusto. On paper they should be the same, but that just doesn't seem to be the case in real world application. More cells probably equates to a bit more voltage or less strain.
So, the flexvolt seems to be the winner over the power detect, when youre using a 60v 9ah and 20v 8ah, respectively. But i have yet to see anyone switch the two batteries on the two models.
So really the Flexvolt saw is the way to go. The only advantage the Flexvolt advantage has is that you can use Flexvolt and 20 volt batteries on it but it still doesn’t perform as good as the Flexvolt saw?
Also saves you from converting to 60 volt tools if you're already in the 20 volt platform and own at least 1 60v tool. Also keeps options open if you need to expand into the 60v tools for more power
After using the Skill saw’s for the past couple decades why would you want to use a blade right Saw? Every time I pick one up it just seems so lame not to able to see the cut well? I guess of course if you’re left-handed it’s great.
Hi, great video and channel! I didn't see you mention anything about it, but i think you should consider covering first time buyers - at least at the end during your 'wrap up' section. I just got into woodworking and i'm in the market for a circular saw. I saw at Grainger they have dewalt XR Brushless saw for $180, comes with a charger, bag, and 5ah XR battery. However, i see HD is offering Flexvolt advantage for $200, with 6ah Flexvolt battery kit. I have bags already so that's not a factor for me. I'm not sure what the difference really is, from what i can tell maybe the 'XR' series is getting phased out, and Flexvolt is the current series? Seems like 'Flexvolt advantage' would be better than "Flexvolt", but it appears that's not the case? I'm interested in making furniture, I don't think you really need the 'best' saw for most of that, but it would still be great to get the better of the two. Which one would you recommend for someone like me?
Making furniture does need a good saw. You will be putting a fine cut high tooth blade on this and cutting through hardwood. You need power. Most people who are woodworkers, like yourself will go corded because of how infrequent you use these saws and the savings in $$. I would buy the Flexvolt Advantage saw if I were you as it performs better with the smaller batteies, although, with that saw you will need a Flexvolt battery. So in that case, why not just buy the Flexvolt saw and get all the power!!! The circ saw is one tool where you go straight to the 60 volt flexvolt and do not look back.
I am in need of a more powerful saw i have been through 3 milwaukee saws in a year i only have a couple of dewalt tools a drill and driver and grease gun i cut 1 1/4 hardwood trailer flooring in tractor trailers do you think the dewalt will hold up better or would you suggest another brand
Have 20v and 60v the 60v is kinda comparable to corded from a power perspective but not weight. I would consider corded again unless battery weight comes down. Cordless s fine for the smaller tools but no the big tools. Just my opinion.
@@WorkshopAddict its mainly the shoe of those saws that i dislike most the one i had wasnt accurate at all the blade was like an 1/8in or better off from where it was marked on the shoe
I bought the Flexvolt advantage at the Depot because of the free 6ah 60 volt battery and charger promo for $199. But I'm returning it because I found the 60 volt saw with a 9ah battery and a 20 volt hammer drill with battery, fast charger and bag for $299 at a Depot an hour away. I kept coming back here and watching that 60 volt saw eat two by stock convinced me.
@@WorkshopAddict I also figured having a 60 volt battery give 3 times the run time in a 20 volt tool isn't much good if it takes 3 or 4 times as long to make a cut.
Hi. I am confused. I have the XR range of tools, with 5ah Batteries. I just bought a DCS575N and have found my 5AH battery doesnt fit. Do they actually work together?
Flexvolt is a 60 volt platform and you need Flexvolt batteries. Flexvolt Advantage is a 20 volt platform that will gain extra power from the use of a flexvolt battery, but will also run on 20 volt batteries. The 60 volt flexvolt has a ton more power than the flexvolt advantage.
The most useful vid on that, thanks! Esp. for showing the battery connectors, now i get that FlexVolt Advantage works always in 20V, while more connectors on an actual FlexVolt tool make battery cells run in a chain (rather than in parallel) and give the tool true 60V (U₁+U₂+U₃). Also, 9.0 Ah battery on FlexVolt means capacity for a 20 volt tool! It’s all marketing:) Because, when running on a native FlexVolt 60V tool it’s just 3.0 A/h.
so... these are great vids to determine motor power and battery power. so the next questions becomes .. 1. what is the difference with flex voltage advantage saw between 9ah,12ah,and the new 15ah! I know more run time but I think there will be a power difference. maybe not on paper but in real life. I did thanks to your vid buy a Dewalt 60v flex worm style saw. beast mode activated. do you have a worm vs circular vid?
On a 60V tool it is 3ah. It lasts a long time for me on my 60V tools. The only tool I own that drains it fast is my 60V Leaf Blower (lasts about 25-35ish minutes). Everything else, hours for my uses.
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I got the Flexvolt last year and it has become my go to saw. I’ve come to prefer it even over my worm drive corded saw.
About 2 years ago, I bought a Dewalt DCS575T2 Flexvolt saw kit with a fast charger and 2 Flexvolt batteries DCB606, it performs really well, meets my needs, I got rid of my Harbor Freight corded circular saw in the process. Obviously, a 60V motor is definitely gonna outperform its "little brother" 20V -- whether the "Power Detect" version or "Flexvolt Advantage" version. I got a few more DCB606 batteries while buying other 60V tools later. Therefore, I'd keep that DCS575 60V circular saw and would never want to replace it with these so-called "Power Detect" or "Flexvolt Advantage". This demonstration video has shown it to me one more time that I've made the right choice 2 years ago when I purchased that DCS575T2 Flexvolt circular saw kit. Thank you for your time, Brian, I highly appreciate your efforts anyway.
Couldn't agree more ,I have the Flexvolt 575 as well ,it is unstoppable, I can do full depth rips in Australian hardwood with ease ,there is no point in replacing it and I use the Flexvolt batteries on my 20 volt XR tools, win win .
I also bought the Flexvolt 575 2 years ago and it was and still is a beast. It got me into the 60v power platform and I have added the newest Flexvolt Advantage 60v Recip saw. Very nice saw, plenty of power with 60v. Going to add the Flexvolt Advantage drill when it hits my price point. Hoping you do a similar comparison with the advangtage drill.
Keep up the good videos. Very informative.
Helo!
I have these two saws in duplicate “2 of 18v and also 2 of 54v” the 4 saws work almost daily in professional use, and so far they have never given me any problems.
They are incredibly fantastic, and although both are very identical in size and weight, the FlexVolt 54v are actually more powerful! withstand cuts with maximum thickness of high hardness wood without any difficulty.
I forgot to mention that I am from Portugal, and the manufacture of both 4 saws is Germanic.
I love your channel! I only follow 5 tool channels on TH-cam and yours is one of the 5 channels I follow!
I thank you for your fantastic videos, I like a good channel where humility is present and always a good safety advice to help us not make it easy when it comes to the safety of handling any tool!
Until the next video!
Helder da Silva.
Been in the trades for a few years now. Framed with the 60V for a year and loved the saw. I ended up buying the 20V for myself but today I finally made the decision to buy the 60V. The 20V was okay but I found it a lot weaker and had trouble cutting, personal I don’t think it’s a saw you can frame with. If you’re going to buy a saw get the 60v
I've had the 60v for over two years now doing siding. Lp/ hardy/ framing lumber, lap/ board and baton/ shakes. This saw will bury the blade in anything and not bog down. I love it.
Wow , it's getting a little hard to keep track of what's what. Having options is always a good thing , but this is getting crazy. There is no doubt that the Flexvolt is the King of circular saws concerning power....and being a Milwaukee guy that's hard to say...but the truth is the truth. Your right when say that you cannot ever have enough power especially when your on the job...it's getting late and you have a deadline to meet and you still have quite a bit of cutting to do....in a perfect world blades would stay sharp forever but sadly we all know that's just not the case. Where the Flexvolt truly shows it power is when you don't have a new spare blade with so all you have is what you have....a dull blade. This is where the extra power pays for itself big-time. So if I was a team yellow guy....buy the real deal and be done with it. Excellent demonstration comparing the two saws showing what they can and cannot do....Great vid brother.
Sorry about the long winded post..😁
Thank you Donny.
Well said Donny!
Milwaukee m18 high out put take note. Brushless voltage matters
We seem to be caught up in product line madness now where no one is ever satisfied ,btw I have been doing framing and all sorts of carpentry for thirty years efficiently just with basic tools ie a lightweight Makita corded 7 1/4" circ saw and a basic battery drill and never gave it a second thought ,I did get a Flexvolt 575 circ saw and various other Dewalt cordless tools a couple of years ago and love the power and convenience. I still like my corded stuff though.
You're acknowledging the absence of your PPE towards the end of the video, and the importance of using them was steller! It made my heart smile. Good comparison video.
Thank you for making this an easy decision for me. Since I already have a couple flexvolt batteries. Keep up the videos.
I just got the DCS573 Flexvolt advantage after being undecided for a long time because I had my good old 6-1/2’’ saw and it was okay most times. But those times when I needed that extra power, I just couldn’t stand it. I felt inadequate. When I first tried the Flexvolt advantage saw, I knew right away I had made the right decision. The 60v saw was a bit unnecessary for my use, but the 20v Flexvolt advantage is the perfect fit for me. I have other 20v tools and I also have one Flexvolt tool so it all made sense for me to get this
It great that dewalt is giving us options. I just wish they would update the impact driver (887) and the 7 1/4" miter saw, and expand the 12V line.
Right??? I also wish they would do a Fluid (Surge) type impact for noise.
Jake A. I gave my impact drivers away. They are really noisy. I do have an impact wrench the 400 type and use it occasionally with ear protection. It's the metabo. It's got a dial up to 12 and at 5 can loosen car tyre nuts.
@@ron1martens yeah. Would be great if they would make a hydraulic version of the impact like what milwaukee and makita have done. In fact, I use dlthe drill and not impact for driving screws at home to keep the noise down.
@@ron1martens a lot of people swear by Milwaukee 12v line because they have 2 types of new impacts (I think it’s 2 or maybe 3 because fuel) but one is powerful but they also have one that is very quiet but not the strongest you can get but this quiet one can also take off car lug nuts and most things you can throw at it
Overall try Milwaukee they are great
Today 11 good advice. I have a cordless Milwaukee sander and one drill 18 volt. I did have the 12 volt high speed polisher with a 2 amp hour battery I think. That was one of the tools I had stolen. Would be good to take your advice and buy a 12 volt 4 amp hour battery Milwaukee. I do have the combination charger. One of the aspects of having your tools stolen is to upgrade. The only thing is the money part of things work and saving.
Hey BrIan! Another thorough, classy, and no nonsense review. The 20 Volt version(s) have come a long way, but if anyone out there gets the chance, just pick up the actual 60 Volt Flex Volt saw. I was lucky to pick up one of the last ‘Special Buy’ ones this Summer, that came with the 6 amp charger, 3.0/9.0 60 Volt battery, 2.0 20 volt battery, and compact hammer drill, for $279.00! The latest model is a beast! My only qualms lies with the durability and reliability of the 60 Volt packs. I have yet to have a problem, but have heard of people having batteries fail. They are a very complicated battery. I avoid heat, unnecessary stress, and NO dropping them! 😬 Thanks and stay safe and Healthy! 👍😁🇺🇸🎃
George Da Vall. I seen a person bring in the 12 amp hour battery for warranty work as something happened to it. I too have heard some issues with the flexibolt dewalt batteries. Like you mention don't let them overheat. Here's something interesting. I went to my local tool place and was told some of the tools going up north Western Australia. As soon as the machine is turned on it blows up. The temperature up north is around 46 degree Celsius or more. I didn't get the full jest of what the technician mentioned only that the tools weren't designed to stand the heat. So imagine the handler turning on the machine and it blows up I mean the electronics not actually blowing up more like a short circuit. It would certainly give one a startle.
@@ron1martens I am in Qld and is bloody hot ,my Flexvolt batteries run cool ,the only tools I've seen run hot are Milwaukee, because they are drawing to many amps out of 18 volt system.
interman 77 you have a valid point there interman. Are you up north from Brisbane? I guess the more North you go the hotter or humid it gets. Not sure if it's the same as north west. I will refresh what the technician mentioned regarding tools made for European conditions opposed to mining locations. When dewalt came out with their flexivolt it was a revolutionary move. Milwaukee however do throw a lot of technology at their lineup with Joseph Galea the CEO pouring billions into their research.
Best review of the flexvolt advantage yet. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hey, thanks for this video on these 2 saws. It's great to see that difference last year I bought the 60v saw and it does great for me I have pretty much moved away from my other circular saw and corded saw
I have the flexvolt, and that thing is a monster. Has more power than a corded saw. I've had it since it came out, probably 5 years ago. And it's still kicking
Glad you called yourself on the safety glasses man, not too many tubers have the guts too. Stay safe
I already had the impact driver and c couple of 3Ah batteries. I just bought the 60 volt saw with the 9Ah battery and the 20 volt flex volt advantage 999 drill which also came with a 6 amp hour 60 volt battery. That gave me two compatible batteries for my 60 volt saw.
On the tools that have the expensive batteries it doesn't make sense to buy the bare tool, because for instance with the saw you pay about $100 extra and you get a $220 battery and an $80 charger. Two 60 volt batteries is enough for me to keep my saw going for most jobs. And frankly if that's not enough I have the best corded DeWALT circular saw that DeWalt makes and if I need more capacity I will use that.
I have three 5.0 Ah 20 V batteries and I’m only planning to buy FlexVolt batteries (don’t have any 60v tools yet), so my choice is obviously a FlexVolt Advantage saw. If I had a couple of FV batteries, I’d go with the blackened finish saw. Easy as that:)
Conclusion: flexvolt circular saw is the beast.
You got that right
I just bought the worm drive Flexvolt. It's by far the best saw corded or not.
@@John-771 where did you get it. I've looked everywhere, out of stock online and the depot here in Virginia
@@davegordon6943 I bought mine about 18 months ago at a small local hardware shop Viking Lumber. Sorry I don't know where to go now that everyone is out of everything.
@@John-771 owned it a while. It’s a kick ass saw.
Another Milwaukee guy watching the video and coming away impressed. Actually I’ve just started in Milwaukee and hope to be taking advantage of some of the amazing deals out there this season. With all that being said, both of these saws seem to have some great features and capabilities, but it’s interesting to see a great side by side demonstration, especially walking up the various battery sizes and then for the true Flexvolt saw to still clearly dominate in raw power. I have to say I am impressed. Also, huge kudos on addressing the eye protection oversight head on, instead of waiting for it to be fought out in the comments section. We all could stand to be a little more willing to don the proper PPE; it’s quick to do (and it’s waaay faster than a trip to ER!)
Ain’t nothin’ macho about losing an eye unnecessarily (unless you’re a pirate....because, necessary or not, it really does enhance that particular esthetic.)
P ___ )
Arrrrgh!
Thank you for posting. I have a few 20v max tools and batteries. My uses for circular saw is minor construction on weekends. So if I can get a deal (Home Depot often has in short runs) of 20v flex with battery/charger combo from Home Depot for $199 I’ll do it Getting the 20v max saw by itself $149. The 20v flex $199 (better choice) or go all in for 60v flex kit. (normally $299). Decisions, but at least I know I would be more future proofing going to 20v flex over 20v max.
Bottom line, if your using a cordless circular saw, let the blade cut at it own pace and you will not bog down the motor. Granted the 60v flex volt is a beast of a tool, but if you can't justify spending the money to replace a perfectly good 20v Dewalt saw, the 20 v is fine just a little bit slower. If you want speed and brute power get a skill worm drive saw.
I'm now convinced to get a FLEXy even though I already have a 7-1/4 ver1.5 (When they added a rafter hook to version1). I'm curious how that new 6-1/2 brushless circ compares to a 7-1/4, compared to the 4-1/2 atomic.
After this video i notice And i know i made the right purchase “Flexvolt60v circular saw👍🏻”
Great video. Thanks for the nuance showing the difference between flexvolt and flexvolt advantage - I'll go with the 573 as I will rarely need more power and, as you showed, will get a longer run time. Thanks again!
I think dewalt has all these lines based on the lowes vs HD wars. That said I picked up the flexvolt advantage circular saw because I don't always need my flexvolt batteries in the van and on the job.
thanks, it clears up my choice. Since (Nov/Dec 2021) Dewalt is running a $199 for a 4AH + 6AH battery deal for $199 and you get get the the 20V DCS573B for free, I'm going with that if I can talk Santa into it.
If I had 1 or 2 flex volt batteries, then I would just get the flex volt tool. LOL, imagine that.
You are Captain Obvious. :) We discussed that at the end.
@@WorkshopAddict LOL Brian !!! 👍👍👍
Love that Flexvolt drill driver.
been wanting a 570 for a while but i'm glad i put it off now ... i'll be getting a 573 after the 1st . thanks for sharing and Merry Christmas .
Good idea ,I think this is a smart move by Dewalt to make this line .
Hey Brian, thanks for tackling such a confusing test ,I have the 1st gen Flexvolt 575 and it's awesome but I might just grab a 573 to use my lighter 5 amp batteries on lighter work and also I have the option of using the Flexvolt batteries as well .👍Win WIN.
That was a good catch on your part. Safety first, always.
I was assuming the flex advantage was just as good as flexvolt when using the flexvolt battery! Definitely not the case after this video!
Man. Dewalt had to stroke Home Depot a little bit I think that’s why they introduced the Flexvolt Advantage, that way you have equally competing lines at both Home Depot and Lowe’s. Even though yes, Power Detect is technically different from Flexvolt Advantage, they both operate on the same principles. So the next thing would be run time. Does Power Detect with the 8.0AH and 21700 cells give you more/less/equal run time than the Flexvolt Advantage with a 9.0AH and 21700 cells? It’s 1.0AH more for the Flexvolt Advantage so that should equate to a little bit more run time. And since the 8.0AH and now all of the Flexvolt Batteries now have 21700 cells they will run cooler and are less likely to over heat. I think it’s a wash between the Flexvolt Advantage and Power Detect overall. I agree with you Brian the actual Flexvolt is where you want to go if power and torque is what you’re after above all else. Great review as always thanks brotha!
From my use today after the video posted, the 9Ah FV lasts a touch longer than the 8Ah in the power detect, just as you would expect. The FVA does have a tinge more power than the PD, most likely due to the 3P battery on it.
Hi Mike, you will find the 60 volt batteries output a lot of amps, but at the expense of runtime. As Brain said, it helps to already have FlexVolt batteries, if you pick up the 60 volt saw. And definitely have one of the yellow Fast chargers! They usually come in the kits. Peace!
DCB206 6AH and DCB208 8AH use 21700, while Flexvolt 6AH uses 18500.
This is a really good review. Thank you so much. Exactly what I was looking for!
Glad it was helpful!
you should start using the same blades in your test. different blades can add do much to the cut speed.
My god man. 4:48 that sounded like a tornado whipping through a mobile home park at full speed. How could you not smile at that shit. Freakishly powerful for a portable battery tool
I think if I was doing this for a living I would just bite the bullet and get the fv. I just bought the fv advantage for my diy stuff at home, I do not think I’m going to regret not getting the more expensive one, they are both killer, plus I can use my regular 20v batteries on them. Good vid.
I think its cool saw from dewalt but at my opinion if you have flexvolt baterie already go and buy the flexvolt saw .. its a litlle bit confusing from dewalt
Great informative stuff. Just purchased the advantage, which will work for my application as industrial/commercial electrician and personal home use, so not too much power needed there. Looks like an 8ah XR for $140 will get me by. Think someone alluded to this point, but anyway; Flex volt looks like it runs one battery as two: two hots, two neutrals, two grounds. Same thing going as a circ saw with twin batteries like Makita.
Due to some unforeseen reasons I am in need to switch out my ryobi powertools for another brand. Dewalt at the moment makes the most sense for me as currently we have a 15% off deal at the entire dewalt catalog.
I noticed the flexvolt advantage tools and to me they look more interesting than the actual flexvolt tools. As I'm just using the tools for DIY type of things and other personal use I don't really NEED the ultimate power of the flexvolt saw. But what brings me to spend the little extra on the advantage saw is that when I register we also get a flexvolt accu send to our home. Which means that along with the advantage angle grinder I'd pick up and an advantage circular saw (body only) I'd end up with a total of 3 6AH flexvolt batteries. I might not get the full potential out of them right now but it surely already opens up a very nice corner to later on have easier (cheaper) access to the dewalt garden tools like lawnmowers and chainsaws. (also who can say no to 2 free flexvolt batteries? XD)
Just my thought and point of view as a soon to be new Dewalt user.
How would you compare the Flexvolt Advantage to the Flexvolt Power Detect
I hit on this pretty late in a long video, sorry. I think the FlexVolt Advantage has the edge for power, but you really need to look at what works for you best. Do you plan on buying more FlexVolt batteries or high capacity 20-volt batteries. If you want the most power, the actual FlexVolt is where it's at. The difference between the FA and PD is minimal, bit noticable if used directly side by side one after the other.... But in the real world, you have to invest in the tools that fit your future battery platform.
@@WorkshopAddict from what I see Flexvolt all the way I prefer the DCS577B
In the saw form, if you want the power, of course.
@@steveortez2613 --- The 60v FlexVolt saw in the video is the New dcs578 ...
@@dusan78 The drills were going to be tested tomorrow but I cut my finger and have 8 stitches. Going to have to put that test off a few days.
I'm going to stop at 12:00 min do as I say not as I do. Joking only having a lend of you ha ha. At least that board is not as bad as mdf. Sometimes the chips or fine dust goes between the safety glasses. And goggles reduces sight significantly. A respirator will help. I find even with a vacuum attachment on trimming not much dust is collected. Definitely a big difference in power between the two saws. I know you did push the machine a bit hard for demonstration purposes. There are contractors who always push their machines and when they take the machine in for service complain the machine isn't any good. I often have heard contract fixers killing their machine particularly makita planers hearing them scream and bog down. Because they are on a tight price. They flog their machine day in day out.
The flexvolt on the 54 volt machine is a beast. Very impressive.
From Surinam, South America: tnx for all your usefull videos, so i can order the right tool with the right amount of power. I really depend on these videos, because we don't have lowe's or home depot. If the tool is not as good or just the wrong tool, i can't send it back.....so thank you 🙏🙏🙏
Another great video! Hands on work with these tools is the only way to show what they are truly capable of.
Very true!
I wish I had seen your video before buying the flexvolt advantage.
180 days to return to home depot
Yeah dude I bought the flexvolt advantage then watched this video and ended up returning it to HD to get the 60v 😂
@@kickyourfaceandlaugh607 lol exactly what I did
One six amp hour battery in my flexvolt saw will almost last me a 8 hour day unless I'm cutting a bunch of stringers or rips. That will suck juice
If I have a lot of production work to do on sawstools I'll usually just run a corded saw . But man o man I love my Flexvolt saw it has made my life so much easier.
I use 2ah all over, preferred mobility for my home tools (Not professional).
How will a 2ah battery cope with simple cutting for home usage on the 573 ?
The saw will have no power. You need a 5.0 Ah at a minimum for these larger tools and even then, I would not want to cut with a 5 Ah battery through any amount of lumber.
Little batteries are great for impact and drills, ocilating tools but a big negatory on saws or guns
2 AH will die in the middle of a cut. I tried to cheat the hangman and lose with 2AH.
@@ddorn04 it won't hold at all?
I didn’t have a circular saw to begin with. Currently the 573B tool only is 250 and the 578 kit came with a 9AH and 6a charger for 330. Decided to go with the 578. Just going to wait on a FV battery sale to pick up some extras.
The 570 with a 4ah is 307. Pricing drives me nuts… lol
Have you used the same blade for those two circular saws and comparison?
Can you use a standard charger to charge flexvolt batteries? Thanks and well done on the video. Cheers
Yes, absolutely.
can you do a circular saw comparison between the FLEXVOLT Advantage vs. Power Detect?
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60v is beast but really heavy.
quick job up high... something else.
The rear handle saw is heavy but these saws are light.imo
Didn't the flexvolt advantage come with a new 6amp flexvolt battery with 21700 cells I think there is something in those batteries that communicate with the saw
They all come bare tool. There is a new style 6Ah, but it delivers the same power, or close as the new style 9ah. As long as you are using the new style Flexvolts, you will get more power. The 9Ah I am using is the new style.
@@WorkshopAddict okie dokie
I had the 6 1/2 20 volt and it didn't meet my needs I was going through batteries left and right cutting Red Oak. I used my friends 7 1/4 20 volt max and I like the song that I seen an awesome deal on the flexvolt so I bought it and immediately fell in love with it. Next one delicious the worm drive flexible which I'm sure will become my favorite saw now the 7 1/4 20 volt Max and 20 volt Max with flexvolt advantage are both 5500 rpm saws. The flexvolt is 5800 rpm. Now tell me what do you mean by advantage and 55% more power?? If a soul is ready for $5,500 RPM you're not going to make it go more so really what's the advantage???
60v Flexvolt is the king but I'll be fine with my 573 for flexibility. I have 9ah 60v and 10ah 20v they both get the same rpm on that saw.
Thank you very helpful review i will get the new flexvolt saw. We just had new flexvolt advantage and new flexvolt come out in New Zealand it is confusing all different types
Thanks for the video!! Gonna have to get the flexvolt advantage saw because on a plane, 5.0 ah batteries are the max you can bring!! So, this video convinced me which to get. Thanks again!!
I have no idea why they don’t push their prices lower instead of having all this stuff compete with flexvolt when now flexvolt is cheaper than 8ah kits
Awesome detailed review! I just watched this video and just purchased the FlexVolt.
Which one did you bought? The DSC 573 20v or the DSC578 60v?
All of these battery options have my head spinning :O As an current owner of the OG 20v Max XR (DCS570) what is the HIGHEST SPEC battery pack I can get for my saw?
8Ah 20-volt or 12Ah FlexVolt. The difference being a 2P battery (10 cells) or a 3P battery (15 cells).
@@WorkshopAddict Oh man - thank you! I was thinking this might be the case but I admit, I was totally flummoxed lol
I don't yet own a circular saw and don't have ANY Dewalt systems. I plan on building some raised gardens using 2x10s and contemplating the 20V Max XR vs the FlexVolt 7 1/4 Circular saws. My power tool "collection" consists of an old B&D Cordless and a Ryobi corded sander. Both can be upgraded in the future, as I want to move to a single battery system. As the FlexVolt batteries are beastly to put on something as simple as a drill/driver, would it make more sense for me to go with the 20V over FlexVolt?
I was debating on the 20v vs 60v saw. Your video just gave me my answer. Thank you!
Kudos on glasses
Was thinking about it but you owned it
Great video
Thank you! I was confused about the difference. Not anymore.
@WorkshopAddict Great review! I am looking to buy my first circular saw for DIY work. I don't currently own any Dewalt battery system tools. My only Cordless tool is an old B+D drill. I am trying to decide between these 2 but they just seem so similar. Since I don't have any Dewalt 20V or Flexvolt batteries, which direction would you recommend?
If you want pure power, go flexvolt. If you want 75% of the power, go flexvolt advantage or power detect.
Correct me if I’m wrong. But a 20v 5ah battery is just that no more. It’s the amount of run time u get at a consistent 20 volts. A 2.5 amp hour battery in theory should run at 20v max at half that of a 5ah battery. So it does not matter if u have a 2.5 or a 5ah battery the 2.5 will give the max 20v as the 5ah just for a shorter amount of time period that’s it. Just Bc it’s a bigger amp hour battery doesn’t make it stronger it makes it last longer no more no less. Now on the normal max dewalt using a flex volt battery is a different story. Say u have a 5ah flex volt 20/60v battery but your gonna use it with the max saw that’s 20 volts the flex volt smart technology moves that 60v battery to a 20v battery this is where the change is since that 60v battery is 3 times stronger it in theory should run longer. If it’s a 3ah 60v battery it should run as long as a 9ah 20v battery. Now where is the power? That’s where the flex volt tool and battery come into play it’s a 60v tool and battery yes it has more power 2/3 more power than the 20 volt max. Now say ur using a flex volt tool and battery then u have a 20v tool and battery. If you have both batteries that’s 5 ah they should run about the same amount of time you just have more power with the flex volt Bc it’s a 60v tool not a 20v tool your working with 40 more volts than the 20. So the voltage rating =power of the tool the amp hours = is amount of run time at full voltage. The only comparison is run time on a 20v tool with the flex volt 60v battery so if you wanna convert to 60v system the flex volt battery makes this easier for you. You can start by buying 60v batteries and chargers bc that’s a large expense and keep ur 20v tools till u get your 60v tools coming in. And while ur swapping you should get about three times the runtime out of the flex volt than your normal 20v battery. It gives u they ability to swap piece by piece and not have to go buy the 60v tool and battery and chargers all at the same time. I could have explained this in shorter terms but I’m long winded so if I’m wrong lmk. I’d like to know.
As an electronics technician, I completely agree. 20V is 20V. Ah is capacity. I understand people not realizing this because marketers try to keep people in the dark to make more sales.
Great video, thank you.
I'm looking at getting a Dewalt 20V polisher, seeing in reviews they do like power like a saw. Pricing the Flexvolt 6.0ah 2-pack for $200, and a single 12ah for $200. Which do you think would be a better option, more runtime ? Close to the same time with one vs two ? Thank you
I am actually on the fence for just getting a corded polisher like a Torq brand as well. Just trying to balance the pros and cons to them. I do love the convenience of cordless, but for this tool in particular, is it worth it.
Two 6.0 Ah batteries will last as long as one 12Ah battery. We have proved this over and over. I would probably go with multiple 21700 9Ah battery packs. IMHO, I only use my cordless for the hood and hard to reach areas of the car. My corded models are lighter and more powerful.
@@WorkshopAddict thank you. I was looking at the 9ah as well, and not much less than a 12 currently, I'll have to watch for some sales.
As nice as cordless will be, 95% of the time, I would be using the buffer in a shop with power all over too. I'm just like any other tool nut though, if the option is possible 🤷♂️😂.
Your point about having more power will probably sway me to a corded for now, and watch for sales. Hopefully they offer a free tool with purchase on them soon. They did with saws and multis last month.
Hi Brian,
Thanks for the video. It was helpful.
I bought the Standard Flexvolt saw, b/c it came the 796 drill and battery for $300, I was worried I bought the wrong saw, phew.
Just so everyone knows "AH" (amp hours) is a measure of capacitance, not current (amps). So your 2ah battery is going to deliver as much as the 8, but it will need to be recharged 4x as much. Some of these tests are redundant, but thank you for selling me on the 60v system lol
I have the 60V system and it is a beast. I think it has more power than the corded saws I have used. :-)
A point of clarity. What you said about AH being capacity is correct though there is a relationship to how much current a real battery can supply and its capacity. Due to internal resistance in a battery, typically a lower capacity battery cannot output as much current as a battery pack with a larger capacity of the same type (lithium, NiMH, etc.). As the battery pack capacity increases, the effective internal resistance goes down and therefore it can supply a greater total current without having as much voltage sag.
Hope that helps! Have fun with the new tool!
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True and false statement. If your different Ah cells have the same Amp output, you would be correct. In the tool world, I have proved your statement wrong in 2 of the last 3 videos I did. All because the higher Ah packs provide more amps. A typical 2Ah pack is 1P and a 4 or 5 Ah pack is 2P, and 2P can provide more amps.
Anecdotally my higher amp hour batteries give my Dewalt stuff a bit more gusto. On paper they should be the same, but that just doesn't seem to be the case in real world application. More cells probably equates to a bit more voltage or less strain.
I'll take the flexvolt saw all day I care more about power than anything else
So, the flexvolt seems to be the winner over the power detect, when youre using a 60v 9ah and 20v 8ah, respectively. But i have yet to see anyone switch the two batteries on the two models.
So is the flevolt advantage saw better than the flex volt saw from a few years ago?
No, Flexvolt is still king.
@@WorkshopAddict awesome thanks for the reply and all the great videos.
It's a good and very honest review thanks for share Brian!!
So really the Flexvolt saw is the way to go. The only advantage the Flexvolt advantage has is that you can use Flexvolt and 20 volt batteries on it but it still doesn’t perform as good as the Flexvolt saw?
Exactly.
Also saves you from converting to 60 volt tools if you're already in the 20 volt platform and own at least 1 60v tool. Also keeps options open if you need to expand into the 60v tools for more power
After using the Skill saw’s for the past couple decades why would you want to use a blade right Saw? Every time I pick one up it just seems so lame not to able to see the cut well? I guess of course if you’re left-handed it’s great.
Hi, great video and channel! I didn't see you mention anything about it, but i think you should consider covering first time buyers - at least at the end during your 'wrap up' section.
I just got into woodworking and i'm in the market for a circular saw. I saw at Grainger they have dewalt XR Brushless saw for $180, comes with a charger, bag, and 5ah XR battery. However, i see HD is offering Flexvolt advantage for $200, with 6ah Flexvolt battery kit. I have bags already so that's not a factor for me. I'm not sure what the difference really is, from what i can tell maybe the 'XR' series is getting phased out, and Flexvolt is the current series? Seems like 'Flexvolt advantage' would be better than "Flexvolt", but it appears that's not the case? I'm interested in making furniture, I don't think you really need the 'best' saw for most of that, but it would still be great to get the better of the two. Which one would you recommend for someone like me?
Making furniture does need a good saw. You will be putting a fine cut high tooth blade on this and cutting through hardwood. You need power. Most people who are woodworkers, like yourself will go corded because of how infrequent you use these saws and the savings in $$. I would buy the Flexvolt Advantage saw if I were you as it performs better with the smaller batteies, although, with that saw you will need a Flexvolt battery. So in that case, why not just buy the Flexvolt saw and get all the power!!! The circ saw is one tool where you go straight to the 60 volt flexvolt and do not look back.
I am in need of a more powerful saw i have been through 3 milwaukee saws in a year i only have a couple of dewalt tools a drill and driver and grease gun i cut 1 1/4 hardwood trailer flooring in tractor trailers do you think the dewalt will hold up better or would you suggest another brand
Dewalt makes great saws. I would suggest the Dewalt rear handle.
@@WorkshopAddict for working in confined space i don't think the rear handle would work
@@paulmendenhall5226 Then give this a go. I suggested the rear handle due to it having more power.
do you have a computation with the flex saw?
Have 20v and 60v the 60v is kinda comparable to corded from a power perspective but not weight. I would consider corded again unless battery weight comes down. Cordless s fine for the smaller tools but no the big tools.
Just my opinion.
How do these saws compare to
DEWALT 20-Volt MAX Lithium-Ion Cordless Brushless 7-1/4 in. Circular Saw with Brake (Tool-Only)
Model# DCS570B
They are exactly the same unless you use higher power batteries then this one will have slightly more power.
@@WorkshopAddict are you saying both tools will outperform DCS570B with better batteries ?
@@dalenesty2019 That has been my experience
wish dewalt would make a upgraded blade left saw with a same power upgrades i do not like their blade right saws
Many of us share that same wish.
@@WorkshopAddict its mainly the shoe of those saws that i dislike most the one i had wasnt accurate at all the blade was like an 1/8in or better off from where it was marked on the shoe
I have not seen that, but I like to be able to see my cut line.
@@WorkshopAddict be on the lookout for this
DEWALT DCS565B 20V MAX 6-1/2" BRUSHLESS CORDLESS LI-ION CIRCULAR SAW - BARE TOOL
Look up the new cordless 7 1/4 wormdrive , it’s a lefty and the battery goes into the saw, it’s amazing
I prefer the dark grey colour looks better than boring silver
I bought the Flexvolt advantage at the Depot because of the free 6ah 60 volt battery and charger promo for $199. But I'm returning it because I found the 60 volt saw with a 9ah battery and a 20 volt hammer drill with battery, fast charger and bag for $299 at a Depot an hour away. I kept coming back here and watching that 60 volt saw eat two by stock convinced me.
That saw is a beast!
@@WorkshopAddict I also figured having a 60 volt battery give 3 times the run time in a 20 volt tool isn't much good if it takes 3 or 4 times as long to make a cut.
Hi. I am confused. I have the XR range of tools, with 5ah Batteries. I just bought a DCS575N and have found my 5AH battery doesnt fit. Do they actually work together?
It should fit!
What is the difference between flex volt and flex volt advantage?
Flexvolt is a 60 volt platform and you need Flexvolt batteries. Flexvolt Advantage is a 20 volt platform that will gain extra power from the use of a flexvolt battery, but will also run on 20 volt batteries. The 60 volt flexvolt has a ton more power than the flexvolt advantage.
Which model flexvolt is this? The DCS575 or DCS578? Thanks!
578
The most useful vid on that, thanks! Esp. for showing the battery connectors, now i get that FlexVolt Advantage works always in 20V, while more connectors on an actual FlexVolt tool make battery cells run in a chain (rather than in parallel) and give the tool true 60V (U₁+U₂+U₃). Also, 9.0 Ah battery on FlexVolt means capacity for a 20 volt tool! It’s all marketing:) Because, when running on a native FlexVolt 60V tool it’s just 3.0 A/h.
do you know if the guard is plastic?
That’s what I thought. Flex volt advantage is nowhere near equivalent to flex volt.....or the M18 Fuel line for that matter
M18 fuel is roughly equivalent to the 20v dewalt. 60v dewalt blows it away.
so...
these are great vids to determine motor power and battery power. so the next questions becomes ..
1. what is the difference with flex voltage advantage saw between 9ah,12ah,and the new 15ah!
I know more run time but I think there will be a power difference. maybe not on paper but in real life. I did thanks to your vid buy a Dewalt 60v flex worm style saw. beast mode activated. do you have a worm vs circular vid?
How long does the flexvolt 9ah 20v/60v charge last
On a 60V tool it is 3ah. It lasts a long time for me on my 60V tools. The only tool I own that drains it fast is my 60V Leaf Blower (lasts about 25-35ish minutes). Everything else, hours for my uses.
What's the model # for the other saw (not the DCS573B)?
More amps more power... On the end of the day you will get a corded tools. Flexible it might be a bit too much because it is a bit less portable.
was that the dcs578 or 575. the 60v saw that is.
578
Btw is the new 578 or the old 575 ??
The FV is the new model.
Gotta set the depth when ripping 2by lumber or the saw is going to work a lot harder
i would get the 60 volt saw.
What are the model numbers on these saws
So now we have Flexvolt, Flexvolt Advantage and PowerDetect. Too much granularity/marketing BS.
Awesome review. Thank you.
Our pleasure!