If you properly attach the sheetrock you will locate the screws as we all have to do for a stick build. you are asking for something that is not done on any build. You know it is ICF so you should know the measurements to each stud, not sure why this concept is so hard to allot of people. Not just to DIY'ers but to contractors as well.
Finding your ICF webs is a challenge. For those still in the building stage, before the drywall goes on, take a tape measure and make a map of each exterior wall in every room.
Enjoyed your channel, and the content. I am a owner builder and did ICf walk out basement with icf house up top. i changed from 8" basement to 6" house. I also did a 15ft basement and 10 ft house walls I would be happy to show you lots of things i learned. I also found some amazing products to use to make things way easier with those transition places between floors. I thought about sips as well but the shipping cost and build labor changed my mind.
We have an old lake cabin in northern Wisconsin. Five years ago we had the cabin raised, a basement dug out, and installed an ICF foundation with in floor heat. We are very pleased with how things turned out. The ICF foundation was key in turning a 3 season cabin into a year round home.
Just found your channel and gave it a sub. We are diy building our home with fox blocks also. It's been a fun process. Hadn't thought about the access for concrete. Not really an issue in our area. Great point.
Finish carpenter here. I keep a good magnet on my putty knife that I keep in the pocket of my overalls. I use it to find sheetrock screws so I know where to attach cabinets. Where ever there are sheetrock screws there are studs.
Awesome. Hopefully, some of our stuff helps. It's definitely overwhelming in the planning phase, and I keep coming up with what if we want to do this or that. All you can do is plan for the known and adjust as it comes together. If you have any specific questions, let me know and I'll try to help the best I can.
I've got one at work I can borrow to see if that works. I tried some aluminum tape over the stud behind the drywall and the stud finder picks that up. It's not a huge issue, just a little annoying.
stud finding on icfs is simple. just use a neo magnets to locate a screw. once you find one its every 8 inches from there. I actually prefer this for all building methods it tends to be more accurate than a stud finder.
True. We are running into the issue that it is physically possible, but they aren't willing to take the risk. But everything I can't handle myself is good to go at this point.
That's something we have been reconsidering over the last couple of weeks. Originally, the house was going to be all sips until we decided to build into the hill instead of leveling everything.
Honestly, that's a question I've been asking myself. Since I started playing around with the ICF'S I'm questioning that decision. Might end up changing to full ICF walls and sips roof.
@The Kay family build will save you some headaches and stop 2 of the con's. Also, if a concrete truck can't make it up the road, then the truck that delivers the trusses will not either.
@Cliff we can get a concrete truck but not a full semi. We are already doing sips for the roof, so it's been a topic of discussion lately. We gain a couple of inches of space with the sips and a little bit more flexibility with remodeling. Nothing crazy.
Sips are garbage. ICF all the way to the top plate. Why would you want to introduce joints and additional air leakage points. Nothing beats ICFs period. trusses or traditional framing for the roof with spray foam. beats sips on the roof too. One pro you missed is thermal mass. I prefer the ICFs tjat have a thicker outer foam once that concrete is warmed or cooled it acts as a large buffer against temperature swings. You want that thermal mass to help regulate the indoor temp so the thicker outer foam helps minimize outdoor temp influences.
If anyone knows of a stud finder that works on ICF'S let me know!
Yeah, that would work thanks
If you properly attach the sheetrock you will locate the screws as we all have to do for a stick build. you are asking for something that is not done on any build. You know it is ICF so you should know the measurements to each stud, not sure why this concept is so hard to allot of people. Not just to DIY'ers but to contractors as well.
Every 8” from a inside corner of a main corner of the home unless you hit a common seem then go from the other side corner
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@@edwardsmith3062 cool thanks
Finding your ICF webs is a challenge. For those still in the building stage, before the drywall goes on, take a tape measure and make a map of each exterior wall in every room.
Enjoyed your channel, and the content. I am a owner builder and did ICf walk out basement with icf house up top. i changed from 8" basement to 6" house. I also did a 15ft basement and 10 ft house walls I would be happy to show you lots of things i learned. I also found some amazing products to use to make things way easier with those transition places between floors. I thought about sips as well but the shipping cost and build labor changed my mind.
That's awesome, thanks.
could you share the product you used to make the transitions between floors easier?
We have an old lake cabin in northern Wisconsin. Five years ago we had the cabin raised, a basement dug out, and installed an ICF foundation with in floor heat. We are very pleased with how things turned out. The ICF foundation was key in turning a 3 season cabin into a year round home.
I bet that made a big difference. They aren't very prevalent out here, so it's been fun learning about them. I'm really impressed so far.
Just found your channel and gave it a sub. We are diy building our home with fox blocks also. It's been a fun process. Hadn't thought about the access for concrete. Not really an issue in our area. Great point.
Thanks. Welcome to the channel. I don't think access is a problem for most people, but with some of these rural off grid builds, it can be sketchy.
Finish carpenter here. I keep a good magnet on my putty knife that I keep in the pocket of my overalls. I use it to find sheetrock screws so I know where to attach cabinets. Where ever there are sheetrock screws there are studs.
That's a good trick. Simple, and it works.
Thanks for the video. I am planning our house and researching ICF.
Your welcome! Let us know if you have any questions.
I'm in the design phase also right now and I hear ya about making the brain hurt with trying to plan for every option.
Awesome. Hopefully, some of our stuff helps. It's definitely overwhelming in the planning phase, and I keep coming up with what if we want to do this or that. All you can do is plan for the known and adjust as it comes together. If you have any specific questions, let me know and I'll try to help the best I can.
Just superfluous cons.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Once we start building in the spring, we'll have lots more information.
Look into getting a thermal camera. It might be able to pick up the temperature difference of the plastic from the concrete.
I've got one at work I can borrow to see if that works. I tried some aluminum tape over the stud behind the drywall and the stud finder picks that up. It's not a huge issue, just a little annoying.
stud finding on icfs is simple. just use a neo magnets to locate a screw. once you find one its every 8 inches from there. I actually prefer this for all building methods it tends to be more accurate than a stud finder.
Thanks. I actually went out and picked up one of those magnet stud/screw finders. Hadn't seen one till I started playing around with the ICF'S.
If you can get a lumber delivery to your house you can get a concrete truck there also
True. We are running into the issue that it is physically possible, but they aren't willing to take the risk. But everything I can't handle myself is good to go at this point.
Why SIPS walls? Why not ICF from footer to ceiling?
That's something we have been reconsidering over the last couple of weeks. Originally, the house was going to be all sips until we decided to build into the hill instead of leveling everything.
I agree! Icf all the way! So awesome having our obave grade walls being rock solid.
Why use SIP's when you can ICF the whole house even to the roof peaks.???
Honestly, that's a question I've been asking myself. Since I started playing around with the ICF'S I'm questioning that decision. Might end up changing to full ICF walls and sips roof.
@The Kay family build will save you some headaches and stop 2 of the con's. Also, if a concrete truck can't make it up the road, then the truck that delivers the trusses will not either.
@Cliff we can get a concrete truck but not a full semi. We are already doing sips for the roof, so it's been a topic of discussion lately. We gain a couple of inches of space with the sips and a little bit more flexibility with remodeling. Nothing crazy.
I don’t know if it’s too late, but you may want to look into insulated metal panels for the roof. That’s what I’m doing much better than a sips panel
Sips are garbage. ICF all the way to the top plate. Why would you want to introduce joints and additional air leakage points. Nothing beats ICFs period. trusses or traditional framing for the roof with spray foam. beats sips on the roof too. One pro you missed is thermal mass. I prefer the ICFs tjat have a thicker outer foam once that concrete is warmed or cooled it acts as a large buffer against temperature swings. You want that thermal mass to help regulate the indoor temp so the thicker outer foam helps minimize outdoor temp influences.
yeah, I didn't mention the thermal mass. That's a good point.