Absolutely loved your performance singing and playing the green man. I've got the cords down just picking out the lyrics. Thanks for sharing Malcom. God bless. Kindest regards Simon. ✌😎🎶🎼🎸🎵
Lately, I have found considerable inspiration regarding the Christian life whilst tending to my garden. For example, the act of being faithfully persistent in weeding teaches me about the mortification of sin and the fruits of the Spirit that come as a result. My thoughts already much occupied by all things fruitful, I welcome your Green Man as a continuation of this inspiration. May God continue to bless both you and yours.
I've always had a great admiration for mythology and paganism which used to make me feel guilty as a Christian. Then I read Michael Ward's Planet Narnia and realized that one of my favorite Christian writers C.S. Lewis also loved the old myths and "regretted that they weren't true." I've since come to look at paganism as being in many ways "Christianity incognito," even St. Paul quoting a passage about Zeus to pagans and applying it to Jehovah. Obviously the pagan world was limited; they didn't have the light that the coming of Christ brought and therefore you have many sordid traditions and tales, but there are also beautiful glimpses of the Gospel that nonetheless shine through. I first heard your Green Man song in a video of sonnets and songs you did at Biola and I loved it. It's one of my favorite songs of yours along with Angels Unawares, and I love the stories behind both.
@@MalcolmGuitespell Verses that says stay away from evil and paganism 1 Corinthians 10:20-21 No, I imply that what pagans sacrifice they offer to demons and not to God. I do not want you to be participants with demons. You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. You cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons. 2 Corinthians 6:14-17 Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said, “I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Therefore go out from their midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch no unclean thing; then I will welcome you, 2 Corinthians 6:16-17 And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said: "I will dwell in them And walk among them. I will be their God, And they shall be My people." Therefore "Come out from among them And be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, And I will receive you."
FANTASTIC!!! Dr. Guite, I am confident that if Bob Dylan heard this, he would give you a smile and a nod, as I just did! I also have thoroughly enjoyed your “Quarantine Quatrains”. A very dear friend of mine, who goes by Dale Piper on TH-cam, gifted me your work, and I shall ALWAYS cherish it! My thanks to you for “The Green Man”, and your “Quarantine Quatrains”. God bless, Cliff
I was raised in a Catholic family, but i now follow a more Pagan ,following the seasons and beutey of nature through eyes of the Allfather type belief, i loved your take on the green man, early tradesmen often wove their own folklore into churches and buildings up on roof tops ,chimneys and hard to reach places , perhaps to pay homage and please their own deities. And from a fellow singer sing writer thank you so much for the wonderful song, my father is a poet and a musician im sure you would get on like a house ablaze, Thank you Reverend Malcolm. 🙏
Dear Malcolm what a wonderful song, As for the Hobgoblin ale it is from Wychwood Brewery in the Oxford town called Witney.....................................Tree.........
On the note of some Christians having an aversion to this stort of thing, I had similar internal hesitations upon hearing the lyrics.. lol but it's because I grew up in such an analytical perhaps dogmatic atmosphere. I had the similar reactions to C.S. Lewis because I was never taught the importance of allegory and symbolism. Of course I'm learning all these wonderful things now and love Lewis and even The Green Man! I am so grateful to you for this song and your poems and insights.
Hi Malcolm, I loved hearing your 'Green Man' song on your album and it is fabulous to hear an acoustic version here. I was first introduced to the Green Man through Kenneth Grahame's 'Piper at the Gate of Dawn', a chapter of pure paganism cleverly hidden in a children's book. Later the same god of wine and wild revelry appeared in C.S.Lewis' Narnia chronicles at the end of 'Prince Caspian' as Bacchus/Dionysus. Tolkien introduced him as Tom Bombadil, and Kipling as Puck of Pook's hill. So it was no surprise when I was older and read Frazer's 'Golden Bough' that this god/sacrifice, Osiris, Jesus, Pan, Odin figure was so familiar. I like your characterization of these historical figures as foreshadowing of the Christ mythos, but I can certainly see why the lay folk and some of your compatriots in the clergy might have been feeling more that a little uncomfortable at this line of reasoning. It being spring here in Australia, the Green Man is returning with a great vigor after his winter nap.
Bravo, Malcolm! There's a pub at Marholm, (John Clare's stomping ground) known as The Green Man, which has an effigy in privet of the Green Man. Talking of Gothic architecture, down the road from there at Glinton is an amusing gargoyle a man's backside which is a rainwater spout. Your vids are always entertaining. God bless.
This is probably my favourite video of yours so far (only recently encountered you so working my way through your back catalogue). I like the poems very much, but I really really like the anecdotes, and also the history lesson too. This video put a smile on my face on this grey January day. Love the lyrics of the song.
"The Green Man" is one of my favorite of your songs! It also reminds me of George Herbert's poem from "The Temple" in which he refers to recovering his greennesse despite having gone under ground during his recurrent depressions.
Wonderful, I enjoyed your song very much. Hearing your composition is also serendipitous as I currently am working on a water colour painting of my interpretation of the Green Man. Thus explaining how I came across your channel. I concluded that there must be something inspirational about the Green Man, a creative power that produced a song from you and hopefully a painting from me that does him justice. Thank you. Curious if you know much about the lore behind the Sheila Na Gee, in researching the Green Man I read the icon was the female counterpart? Interesting that she was also found on churches.
in Islam "The Ever Verdant One" is El Khidr or Khezr---and the tutor of Moses---to this day off the coast of Turkey where the salty and fresh water form a line when they meet it is said Moses and Khidr are talking...Henry Corbin's "Man of Light" provides some basis for a Green Man of Light as well as of Limb...I cannot but think of that green flash from the center of the light spectrum when the sun goes down over the sea...
I've always been interested in the Green Men. I've always wanted to have one to hang up in my house. My mother recently got one carved out of a branch from Arkansas, but all of the replicas I can find are made of silicone-rubber and don't really do it for me.
Thank you for the song. A wonderful start for the day ahead. I find the ' fun' theology in it a joyful and rich antidote to what feels like the very 'hard-edged', clininical evangelicalism experienced in church at moment, which seems to have everything about Jesus neatly tied up. Is my thinking wrong on this do you think?
The Sheela na Giggs are the female version of the Green Man. A Bishop made an edict that priests should seek and burn all the ones they could find, which implies that many were wood carvings. However, some priests took them into their churches, to "neutralise" them. There are over 100 stone Sheelas known in the British Isles, mainly in Ireland, many in churches or their environs.
Them being so high up no one could see them reminds me of York Minster. A lot of the must ornate stone carvings are so high up you need binoculars to see them and obviously those are a modern invention. So the question is to why? The answer being that the the medieval and early modern sculpture it wasn't man they were trying to please with their work but God. Now I'm a lapsed Catholic so I am not going to say what is or isn't true but if one does believe in a divine then there is comfort and pleasure in knowing that eve though those on earth forgot about the existence of those two carvings, those watching them from above were perfectly familiar with them. Also, I have that Hobgoblin poster at home
@@MalcolmGuitespell Why I'm not a catholic 1 Tim 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach Paul allows bishops to get marry, but catholic church goes against paul. Someone will go 1 Cor 7 to say that paul gave the advice to stay unmarried. But they will not tell you that the same chapter they quote says 1 Cor 7:28 "even if you do marry, you have not SINNED". The passage literally says "young women, young men" and a bishop is supposed to be a Church ELDER. All Believer of JESUS CHRIST are Royal Priest 1 Peter 2:5,9. Revelation 1:6 Apostles are allowed to marry, 1 Corinthians 9:1-5 If Peter (peter is cephas read John 1:42) the so called "first pope" was married, why does the catholic church doesn't allow "pope" to marry? Jesus=ChiefShepherd 1pet5:4 Lord Jesus Christ died Once for all, re-sacrifice Him is putting Him to shame. Hebrews 6:4-6; 10:10,12,14; 9:26,28; 9:12; 1 Peter 3:18; Romans 6:10 Christ is The Head of Church not peter nor pope Eph5:23, 1:22; Col 1:18 _ I'm more blessed than mary Proof=Luke 11:27-28 27 And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!” 28 But He said, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!” In Luke 11:27 that random woman LITERALLY said Jesus your mother is Blessed, but are Lord Jesus LITERALLY said Believers are more Blessed than mary Amen _ CHRIST alone John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. ACTS 4:12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” There is only One Mediator between God and men, LORD Jesus Christ= 1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus. Hebrew 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. Hebrew 12:24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel. Hebrew 8:6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises. Eph 2:18 For through Him we both have access by One Spirit to the Father John 15:5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. Colossians 1:19-20 20 and by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, by Him, whether things on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross. _ Work of God John 6:28 Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?” 29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.” _ Jesus said Matthew 23:9 9 Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. And also said Holy Father to Heavenly Father= John 17:11 11 Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one as We are. Jesus said call no one Father but still catholics call *pope holy father. Sad. A verse against the position of pope, 2 Thessalonians 2:4 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. _ mary mother of God? Matthew 12:46-50 47 Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.” 48 But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” 49 And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! 50 For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.” Same in Mark 3:35& Luke8:21 John 19:26-27 26 When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold your son!” 27 Then He said to the disciple, “Behold your mother!” And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home.( Jesus basically said John is the son of mary, and mary is the mother of John from that time onwards). Sarah is the mother of all Gal 4:21-26. _ We should not pray to apostles Romans 1:25 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. Acts 10:25-26 25 As Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him and fell down at his feet and worshiped him. 26 But Peter lifted him up, saying, “Stand up; I myself am also a man.” Acts 14:15 15 and saying, “Men, why are you doing these things? We also are men with the same nature as you, and preach to you that you should turn from these useless things to the living God, who made the heaven, the earth, the sea, and all things that are in them, Revelation 19:10 10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “See that you do not do that! I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren who have the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” Revelation 22:8-9 8 Now I, John, saw and heard these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel who showed me these things. 9 Then he said to me, “See that you do not do that. For I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren the prophets, and of those who keep the words of this book. Worship God." Colossians 2:18 18 Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, You cannot go to Father through saints nor mary, you can only go to the Father through Lord Jesus Christ= John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. Ephesians 2:18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father. Holy Spirit intercedes for us=Romans 8:26 26 Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. And CHRIST as well=Romans 8:34 34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us. Hebrews 7:25 25 Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them. It's Christ and Holy Spirit who intercedes for us not apostles Even old Old Testament says Christ intercedes for us Isaiah 53:12 12 Therefore I will divide Him a portion with the great, And He shall divide the spoil with the strong, Because He poured out His soul unto death, And He was numbered with the transgressors, And He bore the sin of many, And made intercession for the transgressors. _ The foundation is not peter, his confession about Christ That why in Eph 2:20 the foundation is called prophets and apostles, not one apostle. JESUS is our chief cornerstone Eph 2:20, Luke 20:17 Keys of heaven and What you bound on earth is talking about all Apostles not one, in Matt 18:18 1 Pet2:5 you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house (notice living stones, spiritual house) _ The so called vicar of christ/ pope/holy father Peter called himself a fellow elder in 1 Peter 5:1, and as per the qualifications of elder in Titus 1:5-9 the elder is allowed to get married; then why does the "pope" is required to be celibate and catholic? ( when Peter was neither celibate nor catholic). 1)Peter was not perfect human nor was he a perfect disciple 2)He sank down while walking on water 3)Our Lord said to peter get behind me satan 4)Peter reject our Lord 3 times 5)Our Lord rebuked Peter for calling fire from heaven 6)Our Lord rebuked Peter when he cut of the soilders ear 7)Paul rebuked Peter for being hypocrite because he was acting different in front of Jews and different in front of gentiles. 8) Moses messed up, and he was a important part of Bible ( that's why he never entered the promised land), 9)David messed up ( and he has the Holy Spirit) 10)King Soloman messed up 11) Saul messed up and God regretted the decision (1 Samuel 15:10-11). Hatrick (Saul then David then Soloman back to back messed up) 12)The apostles run away a day before Lord Jesus got locked up. 13)The early church messed up Rev 2:18-20, 1 Cor, Galatians. 14) Apostle John when receiving Revelation worshiped an angel and the angel said "see you do not do that. Worship GOD" Rev 22:8-9 15) Paul and Barnabas both had a sharp disagreement on John Mark( Acts 15:36-41). And remember that both were Apostles filled with Holy Spirit. Paul confessed his struggle with sin Rom7:19 16) Church in Rev 2:1-6 Lord Jesus Himself said to the church of Ephesus that "I know your works, your labor, your patience, and that you cannot bear those who are evil. And you have tested those who say they are apostles and are not, and have found them liars" but guess what that church still had problems and Lord also pointed that out "Nevertheless I have this against you, that you have left your first love.." So as you can see Churches can do Biblical and unbiblical things at the some time _ Breaking the 10 commandments by having statues, idols, changing the Lord's Sabbath to sunday
There are obviously those who romanticise paganism who will be resistant to the idea, but i wonder if the "foliate head" had symbolic meaning (something like life or creation sprouting from His words) - something which would have seemed so obvious to congregations a thousand years ago that they didn't feel the need to write it down? In the same way that the horns on Moses' head (in some depictions) were symbolic, and did not mean that Moses was a repurposed Pan(!). I think your reasoning is sound - the fact that the Green Man appears almost exclusively in Church architecture does seem to suggest that it's probably not supposed to be Odin...
Pagan comes from abba kin. Also Face kin. They (ancestors) were genius about translating body language over long distances. (And sound, resonance, vibe and archipelago…😊 abba and papa, appa as with up, (rain, heavens, understanding, walk on water…)as well as kin both ref a relationship with water.)Just, say yin. Voice, vase, vessel, vaka, wakea, awake, woke😅, book, back, base, pace, vocation, profess shen, vacation…kumbhaya Living waters of Christ face kin Many times the celts have killed themselves off to one man left. The green man, of course. That’s why they say greed hatred and delusion can’t map a point to save their lives. Thank god I’m Irish, a Viking war poet to be exact and I can honestly say, the green man khan, Santa can too😂 Do you know what ish means to mankind and shalom? If you wanted to go to a Buddha party, how would you go about it? Well, I’m wading
Listening to and watching this poet emphasizes how un-English was T.S. Eliot. How can I say, how 🤔 of Nowhere Eliot was? Kafka too. Samuel Beckett. Keening rats clinging to the floating detritus of Pequod.
Absolutely loved your performance singing and playing the green man. I've got the cords down just picking out the lyrics. Thanks for sharing Malcom. God bless. Kindest regards Simon. ✌😎🎶🎼🎸🎵
Lately, I have found considerable inspiration regarding the Christian life whilst tending to my garden. For example, the act of being faithfully persistent in weeding teaches me about the mortification of sin and the fruits of the Spirit that come as a result. My thoughts already much occupied by all things fruitful, I welcome your Green Man as a continuation of this inspiration. May God continue to bless both you and yours.
I’m grateful to learn cultures that sprout joy and respect.
How wonderful , and the documentary on Glastenbury is a great eye opener . May the Green Man be forever free to tend to his works.
Wow! What an awesome song! I hear some Dylan in there. You got my foot a tappin. Thank you for your thoughtful videos!
Remarkable song. Hit me from my feet. Cheer’s
Absolutely Fantastic! All praise to the Lamb! 🙂❤
I've always had a great admiration for mythology and paganism which used to make me feel guilty as a Christian. Then I read Michael Ward's Planet Narnia and realized that one of my favorite Christian writers C.S. Lewis also loved the old myths and "regretted that they weren't true." I've since come to look at paganism as being in many ways "Christianity incognito," even St. Paul quoting a passage about Zeus to pagans and applying it to Jehovah. Obviously the pagan world was limited; they didn't have the light that the coming of Christ brought and therefore you have many sordid traditions and tales, but there are also beautiful glimpses of the Gospel that nonetheless shine through. I first heard your Green Man song in a video of sonnets and songs you did at Biola and I loved it. It's one of my favorite songs of yours along with Angels Unawares, and I love the stories behind both.
Thanks, yes in the end I think pagan things can, like all things, be brought to Christ and the best in them will flourish
@@MalcolmGuitespell Verses that says stay away from evil and paganism
1 Corinthians 10:20-21
No, I imply that what pagans sacrifice they offer to demons and not to God. I do not want you to be participants with demons. You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. You cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons.
2 Corinthians 6:14-17
Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said, “I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Therefore go out from their midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch no unclean thing; then I will welcome you,
2 Corinthians 6:16-17
And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said:
"I will dwell in them
And walk among them.
I will be their God,
And they shall be My people."
Therefore "Come out from among them
And be separate, says the Lord.
Do not touch what is unclean,
And I will receive you."
Wonderful! This has given me a great deal to think about... Thank you : )
supernice......sent to me by a good friend
OUTSTANDING song.
EFFIGY WELL DESERVED.
Blessings.
Many thanks for posting.
Great to hear you sing! Hints of Dylan in there I think.
That was joyful Malcolm. I’ve had a sort of life long obsession with the green man since I was a young lad.
FANTASTIC!!! Dr. Guite, I am confident that if Bob Dylan heard this, he would give you a smile and a nod, as I just did! I also have thoroughly enjoyed your “Quarantine Quatrains”. A very dear friend of mine, who goes by Dale Piper on TH-cam, gifted me your work, and I shall ALWAYS cherish it! My thanks to you for “The Green Man”, and your “Quarantine Quatrains”.
God bless,
Cliff
Wow, thank you! I'm a huge Dylan fan so that's a massive compliment. Do thank Dale on my behalf!
I was raised in a Catholic family, but i now follow a more Pagan ,following the seasons and beutey of nature through eyes of the Allfather type belief, i loved your take on the green man, early tradesmen often wove their own folklore into churches and buildings up on roof tops ,chimneys and hard to reach places , perhaps to pay homage and please their own deities. And from a fellow singer sing writer thank you so much for the wonderful song, my father is a poet and a musician im sure you would get on like a house ablaze, Thank you Reverend Malcolm. 🙏
Brother please come back to Christ.
Dear Malcolm what a wonderful song, As for the Hobgoblin ale it is from Wychwood Brewery in the Oxford town called Witney.....................................Tree.........
On the note of some Christians having an aversion to this stort of thing, I had similar internal hesitations upon hearing the lyrics.. lol but it's because I grew up in such an analytical perhaps dogmatic atmosphere. I had the similar reactions to C.S. Lewis because I was never taught the importance of allegory and symbolism. Of course I'm learning all these wonderful things now and love Lewis and even The Green Man! I am so grateful to you for this song and your poems and insights.
thanks
Well done
Lovely sing! Love that beat! Wonderful enjnciation too.
Glad you enjoyed it
Hi Malcolm, I loved hearing your 'Green Man' song on your album and it is fabulous to hear an acoustic version here.
I was first introduced to the Green Man through Kenneth Grahame's 'Piper at the Gate of Dawn', a chapter of pure paganism cleverly hidden in a children's book. Later the same god of wine and wild revelry appeared in C.S.Lewis' Narnia chronicles at the end of 'Prince Caspian' as Bacchus/Dionysus. Tolkien introduced him as Tom Bombadil, and Kipling as Puck of Pook's hill.
So it was no surprise when I was older and read Frazer's 'Golden Bough' that this god/sacrifice, Osiris, Jesus, Pan, Odin figure was so familiar. I like your characterization of these historical figures as foreshadowing of the Christ mythos, but I can certainly see why the lay folk and some of your compatriots in the clergy might have been feeling more that a little uncomfortable at this line of reasoning.
It being spring here in Australia, the Green Man is returning with a great vigor after his winter nap.
excellent. That Prince Caspian episode was also very much in my mind when I wrote the song. It's a pity they committed it from the film
Daniel Kelly, I had not previously thought of Tom Bombadil in that way. Thank you for that suggestion.
Aww Malcolm. What a great song! Thank you so much for sharing it.
My pleasure!!
Brilliant song👏👏
thanks!
Thank you for this, Malcolm Guite. I really enjoyed it!
That was a brilliant song
thanks
Always loved this song, glad to hear you sing it "live." Thanks, Malcolm!
thanks!
Loved this Malcolm! It was a pleasure to hear your voice. Thanks for sharing this theological fun!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Bravo, Malcolm! There's a pub at Marholm, (John Clare's stomping ground) known as The Green Man, which has an effigy in privet of the Green Man.
Talking of Gothic architecture, down the road from there at Glinton is an amusing gargoyle a man's backside which is a rainwater spout.
Your vids are always entertaining.
God bless.
excellent
This is probably my favourite video of yours so far (only recently encountered you so working my way through your back catalogue). I like the poems very much, but I really really like the anecdotes, and also the history lesson too. This video put a smile on my face on this grey January day. Love the lyrics of the song.
thanks, that's good to know
"The Green Man" is one of my favorite of your songs! It also reminds me of George Herbert's poem from "The Temple" in which he refers to recovering his greennesse despite having gone under ground during his recurrent depressions.
yes, i love that poem and I'm sure it was somewhere 'in the mix' when I wrote my song!
Cheers Malcom. Great shout out to the Waterboys Return of Pan
yes. I love that song. Mike Scott is a genius!
Along similar lines is the more recent “Piper at the Gates of Dawn”
th-cam.com/video/3soptZ60Xy0/w-d-xo.html
Fantastic!
I love it. Thank you
Wonderful, I enjoyed your song very much. Hearing your composition is also serendipitous as I currently am working on a water colour painting of my interpretation of the Green Man. Thus explaining how I came across your channel. I concluded that there must be something inspirational about the Green Man, a creative power that produced a song from you and hopefully a painting from me that does him justice. Thank you.
Curious if you know much about the lore behind the Sheila Na Gee, in researching the Green Man I read the icon was the female counterpart? Interesting that she was also found on churches.
I’m not sure about that but there are carvings of female woodwoses that are clearly related to the Green Man
in Islam "The Ever Verdant One" is El Khidr or Khezr---and the tutor of Moses---to this day off the coast of Turkey where the salty and fresh water form a line when they meet it is said Moses and Khidr are talking...Henry Corbin's "Man of Light" provides some basis for a Green Man of Light as well as of Limb...I cannot but think of that green flash from the center of the light spectrum when the sun goes down over the sea...
yes indeed, I was aware of that Islamic connection, the Green Man is indeed a universal figure
My stars! I have a bottle of Hobgoblin on my office shelf!
its a wonderful brew!
I've always been interested in the Green Men. I've always wanted to have one to hang up in my house. My mother recently got one carved out of a branch from Arkansas, but all of the replicas I can find are made of silicone-rubber and don't really do it for me.
keep looking and a good one is bound to turn up
❤
Thank you for the song. A wonderful start for the day ahead.
I find the ' fun' theology in it a joyful and rich antidote to what feels like the very 'hard-edged', clininical evangelicalism experienced in church at moment, which seems to have everything about Jesus neatly tied up. Is my thinking wrong on this do you think?
No, I think your thinking is right on this!
The Sheela na Giggs are the female version of the Green Man. A Bishop made an edict that priests should seek and burn all the ones they could find, which implies that many were wood carvings. However, some priests took them into their churches, to "neutralise" them. There are over 100 stone Sheelas known in the British Isles, mainly in Ireland, many in churches or their environs.
OK I've printed them out from above, The words/lines are great!
Ahhhh.....the old Woodwose looking over your library. The silent sentinel.
yes indeed, and a woodwose is exactly what he is!
I love it! I want the words so I can sing it to myself ! Are they published?
I think I've put the words (and chords!) in the video description
Do you have a musical presence somewhere I can follow on Spotify or something? So good! Bob Dylan esque!
thanks - ye I'm on spotify
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Great Song. Do you have the websute of the church where you got the Green Man.
here it is www.islehamchurch.org.uk
Them being so high up no one could see them reminds me of York Minster. A lot of the must ornate stone carvings are so high up you need binoculars to see them and obviously those are a modern invention. So the question is to why? The answer being that the the medieval and early modern sculpture it wasn't man they were trying to please with their work but God. Now I'm a lapsed Catholic so I am not going to say what is or isn't true but if one does believe in a divine then there is comfort and pleasure in knowing that eve though those on earth forgot about the existence of those two carvings, those watching them from above were perfectly familiar with them.
Also, I have that Hobgoblin poster at home
Thanks. I must look out for a copy of that poster!
@@MalcolmGuitespell Why I'm not a catholic
1 Tim 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach
Paul allows bishops to get marry, but catholic church goes against paul.
Someone will go 1 Cor 7 to say that paul gave the advice to stay unmarried. But they will not tell you that the same chapter they quote says 1 Cor 7:28 "even if you do marry, you have not SINNED". The passage literally says "young women, young men" and a bishop is supposed to be a Church ELDER.
All Believer of JESUS CHRIST are Royal Priest 1 Peter 2:5,9. Revelation 1:6
Apostles are allowed to marry,
1 Corinthians 9:1-5
If Peter (peter is cephas read John 1:42) the so called "first pope" was married, why does the catholic church doesn't allow "pope" to marry?
Jesus=ChiefShepherd 1pet5:4
Lord Jesus Christ died Once for all, re-sacrifice Him is putting Him to shame. Hebrews 6:4-6; 10:10,12,14; 9:26,28; 9:12; 1 Peter 3:18; Romans 6:10
Christ is The Head of Church not peter nor pope Eph5:23, 1:22; Col 1:18
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I'm more blessed than mary
Proof=Luke 11:27-28
27 And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!”
28 But He said, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”
In Luke 11:27 that random woman LITERALLY said Jesus your mother is Blessed, but are Lord Jesus LITERALLY said Believers are more Blessed than mary Amen
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CHRIST alone
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
ACTS 4:12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
There is only One Mediator between God and men, LORD Jesus Christ= 1 Tim 2:5
For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus.
Hebrew 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
Hebrew 12:24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.
Hebrew 8:6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises.
Eph 2:18 For through Him we both have access by One Spirit to the Father
John 15:5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.
Colossians 1:19-20
20 and by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, by Him, whether things on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross.
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Work of God
John 6:28 Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?”
29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”
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Jesus said Matthew 23:9
9 Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.
And also said Holy Father to Heavenly Father= John 17:11
11 Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one as We are.
Jesus said call no one Father but still catholics call *pope holy father.
Sad.
A verse against the position of pope,
2 Thessalonians 2:4
4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
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mary mother of God?
Matthew 12:46-50
47 Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.”
48 But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” 49 And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! 50 For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”
Same in Mark 3:35& Luke8:21
John 19:26-27
26 When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold your son!” 27 Then He said to the disciple, “Behold your mother!” And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home.( Jesus basically said John is the son of mary, and mary is the mother of John from that time onwards).
Sarah is the mother of all Gal 4:21-26.
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We should not pray to apostles
Romans 1:25
25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
Acts 10:25-26
25 As Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him and fell down at his feet and worshiped him. 26 But Peter lifted him up, saying, “Stand up; I myself am also a man.”
Acts 14:15
15 and saying, “Men, why are you doing these things? We also are men with the same nature as you, and preach to you that you should turn from these useless things to the living God, who made the heaven, the earth, the sea, and all things that are in them,
Revelation 19:10
10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “See that you do not do that! I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren who have the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”
Revelation 22:8-9
8 Now I, John, saw and heard these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel who showed me these things.
9 Then he said to me, “See that you do not do that. For I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren the prophets, and of those who keep the words of this book. Worship God."
Colossians 2:18
18 Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
You cannot go to Father through saints nor mary, you can only go to the Father through Lord Jesus Christ= John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
Ephesians 2:18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.
Holy Spirit intercedes for us=Romans 8:26
26 Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
And CHRIST as well=Romans 8:34
34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.
Hebrews 7:25
25 Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
It's Christ and Holy Spirit who intercedes for us not apostles
Even old Old Testament says Christ intercedes for us Isaiah 53:12
12 Therefore I will divide Him a portion with the great,
And He shall divide the spoil with the strong,
Because He poured out His soul unto death,
And He was numbered with the transgressors,
And He bore the sin of many,
And made intercession for the transgressors.
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The foundation is not peter, his confession about Christ
That why in Eph 2:20 the foundation is called prophets and apostles, not one apostle. JESUS is our chief cornerstone Eph 2:20, Luke 20:17
Keys of heaven and What you bound on earth is talking about all Apostles not one, in Matt 18:18
1 Pet2:5 you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house (notice living stones, spiritual house)
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The so called vicar of christ/ pope/holy father Peter called himself a fellow elder in 1 Peter 5:1, and as per the qualifications of elder in Titus 1:5-9 the elder is allowed to get married; then why does the "pope" is required to be celibate and catholic? ( when Peter was neither celibate nor catholic).
1)Peter was not perfect human nor was he a perfect disciple
2)He sank down while walking on water
3)Our Lord said to peter get behind me satan
4)Peter reject our Lord 3 times
5)Our Lord rebuked Peter for calling fire from heaven
6)Our Lord rebuked Peter when he cut of the soilders ear
7)Paul rebuked Peter for being hypocrite because he was acting different in front of Jews and different in front of gentiles.
8) Moses messed up, and he was a important part of Bible ( that's why he never entered the promised land),
9)David messed up ( and he has the Holy Spirit)
10)King Soloman messed up
11) Saul messed up and God regretted the decision (1 Samuel 15:10-11).
Hatrick (Saul then David then Soloman back to back messed up)
12)The apostles run away a day before Lord Jesus got locked up.
13)The early church messed up Rev 2:18-20, 1 Cor, Galatians.
14) Apostle John when receiving Revelation worshiped an angel and the angel said "see you do not do that. Worship GOD" Rev 22:8-9
15) Paul and Barnabas both had a sharp disagreement on John Mark( Acts 15:36-41). And remember that both were Apostles filled with Holy Spirit. Paul confessed his struggle with sin Rom7:19
16) Church in Rev 2:1-6 Lord Jesus Himself said to the church of Ephesus that "I know your works, your labor, your patience, and that you cannot bear those who are evil. And you have tested those who say they are apostles and are not, and have found them liars" but guess what that church still had problems and Lord also pointed that out "Nevertheless I have this against you, that you have left your first love.." So as you can see Churches can do Biblical and unbiblical things at the some time
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Breaking the 10 commandments by having statues, idols, changing the Lord's Sabbath to sunday
There are obviously those who romanticise paganism who will be resistant to the idea, but i wonder if the "foliate head" had symbolic meaning (something like life or creation sprouting from His words) - something which would have seemed so obvious to congregations a thousand years ago that they didn't feel the need to write it down? In the same way that the horns on Moses' head (in some depictions) were symbolic, and did not mean that Moses was a repurposed Pan(!).
I think your reasoning is sound - the fact that the Green Man appears almost exclusively in Church architecture does seem to suggest that it's probably not supposed to be Odin...
Pagan comes from abba kin. Also Face kin. They (ancestors) were genius about translating body language over long distances. (And sound, resonance, vibe and archipelago…😊 abba and papa, appa as with up, (rain, heavens, understanding, walk on water…)as well as kin both ref a relationship with water.)Just, say yin.
Voice, vase, vessel, vaka, wakea, awake, woke😅, book, back, base, pace, vocation, profess shen, vacation…kumbhaya
Living waters of Christ face kin
Many times the celts have killed themselves off to one man left. The green man, of course.
That’s why they say greed hatred and delusion can’t map a point to save their lives.
Thank god I’m Irish, a Viking war poet to be exact and I can honestly say, the green man khan, Santa can too😂
Do you know what ish means to mankind and shalom?
If you wanted to go to a Buddha party, how would you go about it?
Well, I’m wading
Listening to and watching this poet emphasizes how un-English was T.S. Eliot. How can I say, how 🤔 of Nowhere Eliot was? Kafka too. Samuel Beckett. Keening rats clinging to the floating detritus of Pequod.
Are Beings from the Unseen Realm all Demons?
But the earlyish Christians would of destroyed the original Heathen idols, as Charlemagne did to the Saxons in Germany/Deutschland!😢
not all of them did that, there has been some continuity too, and The Green Man is an example of that