Julia Hartley Brewer's transgender clash with Labour MP

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Shadow Equalities Minister Charlotte Nichols has said criticism of trans swimmer Lia Thomas amounted to "lazy transphobia". Lia Thomas has made headlines after becoming the first transgender athlete to win an NCAA final.
Julia asks: "Is it lazy transphobia for a woman like myself to say a man competing against women is cheating and is ruining women's sport?
Labour MP James Murray emphasises that debating trans issues should be done "sensitively".
"This debate gets heated- it's important for all of us to take the heat out of the debate and approach it in a sensitive way."
Julia: "Don't you think it's strange that you're sitting there as a man and telling me what a woman is?"
This follows JK Rowling stating that "the Labour Party can no longer be counted on to defend women’s rights" after Labour leader Keir Starmer stated that "trans women are women".
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