Aprilia Tuareg 660 - Test Review Australia

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  • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
    @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว +10

    For more thorough reviews on the latest bikes including the Ducati Desert X, Triumph 1200, Yamaha T700, KTM890, Triumph Tiger 900, Enfirled Himalayan, Honda CRF300 and many more check out the link below
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    • @dadbod6039
      @dadbod6039 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Would love to get a GPX file on this ride please Dave - pretty please 😂🙏🏻

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ We don’t do it. But we do provide hints in the video

  • @BigRockMoto
    @BigRockMoto ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Another great video! Really nice editing. I totally agree with your findings on the
    Tuareg. Great job pointing out the low center of gravity, fuel tank design and airbox. Things that truly matter to riders. And the limited dealer network, which is the only downside I find with this machine. We should get together to do some riding soon. - Ian

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yes Ian, I'd love to come to the US, I just have to complete my India itch. As for the Tuareg I'm considering making that a long termer, it's that good. I saw a great bash plate for it from Outback Motortrek....I think they're called. It certainly needs that.

    • @triprack
      @triprack ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Ian, go to Australia! MAD and BRM Presents. Can't wait for that SERIES!

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@triprack Or me there! but I've got to do the Himalayas this year.

    • @BigRockMoto
      @BigRockMoto ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @Motorcycle Adventure Dirtbike TV I broke my stock bash plate already. I am getting crash bars and bash plate from SW Motech any day now. I also have barkbusters, rear rack, motoz tires, and that's all the bike really needs. I love mine. You should buy one.

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@BigRockMoto That would be my set up. The radiator is very vulnerable. I have to sell some bikes before I buy some more, according to the chief finance officer :)

  • @Byteman72
    @Byteman72 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I’ve been on the WR250R since 2010 and in that time rode the first one until the engine catastrophically failed at 88,000km and the current unit is at 21,000km.
    Today I took the Tuareg for a two hour test drive, and within the first five minutes seemingly tamed its 3.5X horsepower of the WRR and loved the ergonomics and ride feel. I returned to the dealership and begged them to take my money and as it turns out, it seems I have purchased the last unit in Australia until mid next year.🤗

  • @cstbb568
    @cstbb568 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    The quality and value of this channel is just top of the chart ! Thanks again for these in-depth reviews that make you stand out !

  • @willyd-adv
    @willyd-adv ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I went from a T7 to the Toureg. I don't like rider aided bikes but the Toureg has absolutely blown me away for just $1500 nzd more than the T7. Especially after the power delivery update and factory quick shifter was fitted.
    Only thing I added was a bash plate, Barkbusters, screen extension and lower pegs as I'm a 6"2 ex hard endro racer

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Didn't we say it was a great bike.

    • @zaferbaspunar2762
      @zaferbaspunar2762 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      sizin gibi tecrübeli pilotların tuareg i sevmesi ve onaylaması beni çok sevindirdi en kısa zamanda alacacğım

  • @triprack
    @triprack ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The writing, narration, cinematography and editing on this channel are stellar. So is my new Aprilia Tuared 660! Great Vid!

  • @Lhotse510
    @Lhotse510 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! 2 years on my Tuareg and I couldn't be happier with it.

  • @gustavolamussa9350
    @gustavolamussa9350 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    guys what fantastic places ... what envy! don't know how lucky you are to live in Australia... there it is a biker's paradise, greetings from Italy (EU) 🔝✊

  • @ChrisSandstorm
    @ChrisSandstorm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You boys have out done yourselves. This is hands down an award winning video! Thanks Dave and Clubby!

  • @verifyandconfirm
    @verifyandconfirm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They say love what you do and I can tell it's true for you guys. I appreciate all your efforts in providing much needed details on bikes. Especially on the Tuareg 660. I just bought one and love it. Keep up the great work guys!

  • @phonemeunit1973
    @phonemeunit1973 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    After a couple of years of this bike being on the market, I'm convinced that the Tuareg is the best all-around motorcycle on the planet. It does everything really really well and it sits at a compelling price. Aprilia knocked it out of the park with this one and it is an absolute unicorn.

  • @LeeHollingworth
    @LeeHollingworth ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks Dave, great videography. Would be great to learn more about that side of delivering such outstanding content. Been waiting for this review and am really happy that you gave it a sold thumbs up. Just got to sell one of my bikes and I'll be talking to the Aprilia guys. Thanks again for the channel. One of the best, if not the best, motorvlogging channels on YT.

  • @rlmartin1988
    @rlmartin1988 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice review and one of your best openings. I suspect the weather made the photography a bit of a challenge but you guys did a fine job.
    Almost pulled the trigger on the Aprilia earlier this year but went with the Norden as it was available and less of a risk being a rework of the 790/890. It was very tempting though. Congrats to Aprilia in bringing this to the market. As you say, many good choices/options out there. Just pick one and ride. Cheers!

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว

      So difficult to film in that dim light. Imagine how that would have popped in sunshine Robert. I love the Norden, well apart from the rear suspension. Looking forward to seeing next years model, the explorer.

  • @SubuShrestha
    @SubuShrestha ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Namaste from Nepal Dave. I discovered your channel during Covid times and you're still delivering top notch entertainment, unbiased information and stunning visuals. The intro of this video seems straight out of a movie! Thank you Dave. Keep riding!

  • @cliftonsr
    @cliftonsr ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I love my Tuareg 660 especially after the new updates of the maps and ECU re-flash called for from Aprilia to address some of the stalling issues, now the Tuareg wants to wheelie more and make you think is this motor an 860cc? Then I look down at the front fender fork guards to see the number 660😲😁, this engine is awesome and the suspension is so good!

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great to hear. There were no stalling issues with our bikes. Nothing even remotely like that.

    • @trippingandpolenta
      @trippingandpolenta ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's true! As I wrote in an Italian page:
      "Ho fatto gli aggiornamenti. La moto è cambiata radicalmente, niente più fastidiosi ON-OFF e, come hai detto tu, migliorata enormemente l'erogazione... molto più piena sotto, più pastosa e fluida a tutti i regimi. La sensazione è quella di avere 100cc in più, tanto è piena sotto. Sembra quasi una Honda. Ora derapare senza TCS è diventato enormemente più gestibile lungo tutta la curva, senza dover derapare in 2 o 3 fasi... Stupendo! Unica nota dolente, si sono persi un po' gli "scoppiettii" in scalata...😅"

    • @trippingandpolenta
      @trippingandpolenta ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cliftonsr I've done the updates. The bike has radically changed, no more annoying ON-OFFs and, as you said, engine output has greatly improved... much fuller below, more mellow and fluid at all revs. The sensation is that of having 100cc more, it is so full underneath. It almost looks like a Honda. Now drifting without TCS has become massively more manageable all the way around the curve, without having to drift in 2 or 3 steps... Great! The only sore point, the "pops" on the climb got a bit lost...😅

    • @nicvit6839
      @nicvit6839 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi guys , how make the update ?

    • @trippingandpolenta
      @trippingandpolenta ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@nicvit6839 Just go to an Aprilia Garage and ask for it! They're two, one for the TFT and the other for the engine map

  • @tcb333
    @tcb333 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoy your reviews, this one is no exception. Thank you.

  • @alexgrigoreas4825
    @alexgrigoreas4825 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I firmly believe that in the US, The 660 would be the best seller because of it's broad range of use. The downfall as you described, Limited dealer support. What an epic first shot by Aprilia though, Well done. Definitely on my short list of purchases this year. Thank you Gentlemen for another great review!

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Alex. Yes, it's right up there.

    • @Ritalie
      @Ritalie ปีที่แล้ว

      You know, I've been obsessed with enduros since forever. And I ended up going strictly into streetbikes in 2002, because the enduros in the USA have been absolute trash. Worse than trash, almost insulting, like a comical joke. Think, in 1999, they started selling the Hayabusa streetbike, with one of the best engines ever made in a motorcycle, with more low end torque, and also high end horsepower, than any previous engine. What did they do for the enduros? They kept selling the air cooled DR650 single with 38 rear wheel horsepower, and never offered any other type of engine. There SHOULD have been 2 cylinder enduros made a long time ago in the U.S.. The Hayabusa engine could have been turned into a paralell twin very easily, just as they took the Tuono V4, and turned it into the Tuareg twin.

  • @VegaVenturing
    @VegaVenturing 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic production. Lovely footage and just great storytelling. Subbed, and looking forward to following along on more adventures.

  • @PatchedBandit
    @PatchedBandit 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's definitely sucking me in. Rode it twice last summer and I'm thinking of selling my T7 and getting this one. Absolute gem of a bike and in my opinion it's better than the Yamaha T7 in almost every aspect.

  • @toltod
    @toltod ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What a great xmas present! Thank you guys! In my mind both the Desert X and Tuareg are very exciting machines and i cannot deciede when they are next to each other. Itching to know how actually riding them compare since you've literally ridden them back to back. Cheers and happy holidays from the frozen tundra of Wisconsin!

    • @Iron883NZ
      @Iron883NZ ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the “X” … it’s great! on the open road where it will spend most it’s time :) Loading it up is easy for Touring … but it is a tall bike … currently waiting for a lowering kit! If I was going to spend a lot of time off-road … I would definitely consider this bike … the height, air box, etc. The completely shallow reason I prefer the X thou … is it’s looks and feel

    • @toltod
      @toltod ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Iron883NZ at 6'3" and 240lbs the 'X' is probably a better choice for my body type. Both cool bikes..but my wife does not like either of the rear pillion accommodations. I must say sitting on both in the dealership hit the right spot for my ergonomics. Its gonna come down to who will give the best trade in value for my Triumph Sprint and out the door price.

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There is nothing between them, but if you're riding dirt the airfilter on the Tuareg is easier to maintain.

  • @powertrip1050
    @powertrip1050 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been scouring the MAD TV movies and reviews, and reading through Australian Adventure Bike Magazine editions and kinda stumbled across the Tuareg reviews. I spent my early years in Darwin and Melbourne and find myself in Europe nowadays and soon to be based in Croatia. I have been looking for an adventure bike for balkan conditions - trails that are mostly scenic, not very technical, but dirt, rock and mud, nonetheless . So I don't see the need for a Husky 701, but also just don't want a top heavy behemoth.....and then ol' Dave and Clubby come up with their (usual) insightful and practical reviews of the Tuareg. Hits all the right notes - ie, the compromises for my circumstances are appropriate and bearable. I am now happy that I have a bike in my sights - decision made, subject to some further personal testing of course. THANK YOU BOYS!!! I am already subscribed to MAD TV and to the magazine....but I might look at the "join" option too....and when I can I might see about sharing my balkan travels over coming months and years - from an aussie perspective.....and I am looking forward to regular returns to oz to do a rally or two - get back into some proper distance riding. Lovely!! ...just gotta work out how to get hold of a 2nd hand 701 cheap....🤔🤔😛

  • @Tigerfloh
    @Tigerfloh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Owning a 690 Enduro from 2014 as a dirt travel bike in Europe, I'm thinking to replace it by a Tuareg. As an Aprilia Tuono rider on street I already had the oportunity for a larger test ride including some almost legal dirt roads. It's kind of a mess in Germany. I was really pleased by the handling of the Tuareg and the feeled weight of the bike compared to the KTM. Offroad I'm not the high experienced rider, started just 6 years ago after 25 years road riding and had some travels on the south Balkan. After your review I guess I have to think harder about a change. Thanks for the review.

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah weight is low on the Tuareg.

    • @adamant8501
      @adamant8501 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dje na balkan je pravo mjesto za odrzavanje aprilije, dorade i utezanje masine?

  • @guitar91esp
    @guitar91esp ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video! Really love the choice of soundtrack on this video.

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you liked it. I spend a good deal of time picking music. I have a short list and then see what's appropriate as the vision emerges from the edit.

  • @lanceg.8458
    @lanceg.8458 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great job! You guys are living your best lives!! I live close to Moab but I'd love to hit Australia on a bike someday. I've been there 5 times for work but never to travel as you guys do. Keep it up!

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe one day! Easier to rent a bike for an off road trip than you think.

    • @elgringoec
      @elgringoec ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd kill myself trying to dodge someone by going right.

  • @cocoscabana
    @cocoscabana ปีที่แล้ว

    Dave you are critical of bikes, and are an honest reviewer...like you said "listen carefully" you, clubbie, and the gang have been crucial in my research for my trip there..March 2023...I will be getting a used 300-400cc approx. For around AU, then when I continue on RTW... im still undecided, but really listening to you guys helps me narrow all the time?..love all you do and the hard work...cheers from California...be there ❤ soon MotoCoco

  • @richardsimpson3792
    @richardsimpson3792 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks, very interesting.
    I live in one of the most picturesque parts of the UK, but what a beautiful landscape you have to ride through

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A nice part of the country. The Great Dividing range stretches along the east coast of Australia; amazing diversity of riding for 3,500 km.

  • @wickedleeloopy2115
    @wickedleeloopy2115 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's nice to see someone offering a bike with electronics without the need to be a 1200cc+ 240kg+ monster . This will persuade alot of older riders to downsize as a lighter bike would be easier to handle.

  • @pinkiewerewolf
    @pinkiewerewolf ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Top editing skills Dave!
    The Tuareg 660 seems to check all the important boxes.
    I ditched the Pan Am (Harley bought it back) and I'm on a 1290 Super Adventure R right now. Great mile munching bike but it's a tall bike.
    I'm already looking to "downsize" as speeding through the miles isn't as necessary now that I'm a pensioner myself.
    The T-660 & T-7 are definitely on my radar as top picks.

    • @anxiousappliance
      @anxiousappliance ปีที่แล้ว

      speed is fun - do not go quietly into the night...

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree.

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว

      The latest model 1290 has a low seat?

    • @pinkiewerewolf
      @pinkiewerewolf ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV This is the 2018 SAR, there are a couple aftermarket options, and a suspension lowering option, other than that my option is a different bike.

    • @Ritalie
      @Ritalie ปีที่แล้ว

      Why did you get rid of the Pan America Harley? The Pan America is certainly the best looked of all the modern adventure bikes, other than the incredibly beautiful, best looking Tiger 850. If you like the rough sound of the new flat plane Triumph triples, the Tiger might be a good bike. The Tiger is one of the best looking motorcycles in any genre.

  • @livingwithhuey70
    @livingwithhuey70 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey mate. Great review and absolutely stunning scenery. Much appreciated. Cheers.

  • @williamclarke2020
    @williamclarke2020 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great overview. I love smaller displacement ADVs. I feel more connected to the whats under me than I would in a large displacement. The Tuareg is like a big dirt bike, really. All the power you need , good fuel economy, great handling...what's not to like?

  • @kurtchristopher7392
    @kurtchristopher7392 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another great review!I'm leaning towards buying one. Only major drawback is the limited dealer support in North America. Luckily we have dealer in San Diego. I appreciate your excellent videos. Keep them coming.

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We're gong to revisit this bike soonish. Not sure of the date but it's a definite and I want to do a decent, say 4000 km ride on it.

  • @bossb2539
    @bossb2539 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dave, hello from Las Vegas USA. As usual, I loved your narration, humor, photography and editing. You are the master! I’ve owned Aprilia’s for years with no problems. I’m definitely going to be looking for this size multi use type bike here in our southwest desert. I spent some time in Perth in the military and loved your country.
    The only real complaint I’ve heard about the bike is the heat it throws on the right foot. Any experience with this?
    Best review video I’ve seen on this bike. Cheers mate! Thanks!

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's hilarious you raise the heat on the foot. Normally I do a 'hairy leg test' where I sit on the bike idling until the fan turns on and feel where the air goes. On this bike I did it with my pants and boots on. Fan kicked in. I reached down to the vents on the tank to feel where the air was going and couldn't feel a thing. After your comment I have two conclusions to draw. Firstly, I should have done my hairy leg test and secondly the bike must direct the air almost straight down.

    • @danielkramer8586
      @danielkramer8586 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I've read several reviews complaining about heat on the LEG, not the foot.

  • @SethJayson
    @SethJayson ปีที่แล้ว

    I nearly grabbed one of these a few weeks ago. But as a returning (back to the start, geezer) rider I opted to try to get hold of a CRF300L Rally first to work with less weight. But if that doesn't show up by riding season, I think you have all convinced me to head back to this bike. Crazy that getting hold of an Italian bike is much easier than getting a Honda.

  • @mechcavandy986
    @mechcavandy986 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never mind the bull. I’d be looking out for the hopper roos out there! I ride a new Norden 901 now. I rode BMW R 1200 GS Adv bikes for years, and I thought I was downsizing. Now I think I need an even lighter bike like this 660. Great review! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We had a mate get smashed by a bull in similar circumstances. The Tuareg would allow you to downsize without regrets.

  • @Snowhite808
    @Snowhite808 ปีที่แล้ว

    With 2ft of snow on the ground on our side of the spinning ball, it is very beautiful to watch such countryside.
    About Aprilia - even if one does not buy or like particularly it - everyone has to admit, after years of absense, the Tuareg is made good right out the box.

  • @wb4367
    @wb4367 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid as always! I've now ridden T7, transalp 750 & tuareg all on one day for 30min. each. The Tuareg felt the lightest and has a very smooth engine/ gearbox/ clutch compared to the other two. It also has an incredible intake sound. The deep roar above 4k rpm gives you goosebumps. I was not impressed with the Transalp though, felt heavy and has an incredible boring engine. T7 in standard version was a bit boring aswell. My biggest concern is long term reliability with the tuareg, otherwise I'd buy one.

  • @bobdrakeford5731
    @bobdrakeford5731 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review as usual Dave. I have ridden the Taureg 660 and have a Tenere 700. I really enjoyed the Taureg, but it was difficult for me to compare the two. I reckon if I was new to Adventure Riding the Taureg 660 would certainly be one of my top choices. I felt so comfortable on it, but it was only an hour ride. I'm lucky to have a Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro, so currently this Old Fart has too may toys atm! Keep up the great reviews and vids! Thanks! 👍😁

  • @robertrscott
    @robertrscott ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great review guys. I'm still loving my Tuareg and as you said it seems to be the "do it all" bike!

  • @israeladventureriding8505
    @israeladventureriding8505 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video as usual, would love to see a comparison video back to back footage of the middleweight adventure bikes you've tested and put threw your suspension track

  • @MarshallCant
    @MarshallCant ปีที่แล้ว

    Kick ass review, as always. Made my day. Thanks.

  • @italyguy08
    @italyguy08 ปีที่แล้ว

    uhhh that shot starting at 22:27 is amazing.

  • @rodfernandez4399
    @rodfernandez4399 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know when the adventure starts with rain it’ll be an epic one. 😎

  • @eliodimacali7077
    @eliodimacali7077 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely NAILED it! I am both looking up (CRF250L Rally owner) and looking down (R1200GSA owner, as well).

  • @gillesgenete9598
    @gillesgenete9598 ปีที่แล้ว

    I recently tested all midsized adventure bikes, Norden901, AfricaTwin1100, DesertX, T700 and Tuareg660. DesertX was my prefered but insabely expensive. Then the Tuareg660 was my 2nd choice: I was close to make a deal until I sat on a 890AdvR. I felt slightly better on the 890, and for my program I prefered the larger engine. But I fully agree with your conclusions, and without a good deal on a brand new 2021 890R, I would have bought the Tuareg.

  • @sanatandharma4435
    @sanatandharma4435 ปีที่แล้ว

    You hit the nail on the head by saying it will draw riders from both smaller and larger capacity machines. I am looking to buy a bike next year and love the Himalayan but its seem to sedate for me, as an alternative, I also love the multistrada 950. But the Aprilia is where I feel I would be the most comfortable (happiest) Just need to save a bit more money!!

  • @paulcoverdale8312
    @paulcoverdale8312 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great show an thanks so much.
    Stay safe out there fellas.
    Ride safe ride lucky an ride well.
    All the best from the Poms🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧👍👍🏍️🏍️🏍️

  • @bentblade1
    @bentblade1 ปีที่แล้ว

    As ever quality vid. I have just watched MCN video review of the new 750 AT which I guess would be direct competition for the Tuareg. Strangely enough Honda have not put cruise control on their new, I understand this comes standard on the Tuareg which would make Tuareg for me. I know cruise control sounds odd on an off road bike but when travelling long distances on tarmac to get to the fun cruise control is high priority.

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't see it necessarily as direct competition unless you mean adventure twin. In that case it is a very competitive proposition.

  • @supergnorf
    @supergnorf ปีที่แล้ว

    As always, thorough and excellent review and thanks for that! Was impressed myself when I tested it briefly mid-May this year. It seemed to me a do-it all lower medium adventure bike. Seeing your review I understand I wasn't far off. I speculate that Aprilia's biggest challenge is the dealer network (also an issue for some in my country), and that people remain skeptical with rgds to reliability. However, that doesn't have to be an issue. Or not much different than with larger brand's equivalents.
    For me the Tuareg presented itself as a good all-round solution. Have KTM 1290, so it's a big step down. Especially since I also do Scandinavia-Euro tours. Plus ride long hauls around in Scandinavia. I've not seen any medium size alternative I've liked this far, or that was the case until KTM revealed the new 890 Adventure (not R). At which point I thought, well now, maybe this is it.
    But as you point out, the Tuareg place itself in a position where many who're looking at the higher medium spectrum of bikes, might find themselves looking down. At the Tuareg. Will be interesting to see how it fares. The interest in my country have been surprisingly muted. So they clearly have a reputation to build within the adventure segment.

  • @johnclowes3502
    @johnclowes3502 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That Review was fantastic... Do I hear a Comparo in the wind....

  • @Outbackmotortek
    @Outbackmotortek ปีที่แล้ว

    An incredibly amazing mid weight dual sport moto!

  • @AusMoto
    @AusMoto ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks like a great bike!
    I'd keen to see the long term reliability of it but as an overall package, looks like a great all rounder!

  • @chukku2175
    @chukku2175 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Aprilia Quickshifter is really great and compared to other mods relatively cheap (around 270 $, depending on where you live).
    I would definitely recommend outfitting every Tuareg with it!

  • @anthonyschroeder7458
    @anthonyschroeder7458 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review as per usual Dave 👍

  • @cliftonsr
    @cliftonsr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm with you Dave on that axle nut and looking to replace it soon with a bigger one, I did get a quick shifter installed last week and it was the cherry on the top that makes it with the rear rack, crash bars, heated grips, touring screen with X-CREEN TOUR visor that makes me want to head outback to Australia with you Dave and Clubby and Nugget, and you did an awesome review on the Tuareg 660!

  • @samhill3496
    @samhill3496 ปีที่แล้ว

    Muffett could have handled the bull. Yeah, never trust one. The bike appears wonderful. Only major real life issue will be accessibility of dealers. That's why I think the people who want a do all bike like this will turn to Honda when the TransAlp becomes available. Yes, we are in the best of times for motorcycling. There are all kinds of really great machines for everybody and every road. Great job Dave and Clubby. Beautiful roads trails on the ride. Good weather too. All good. I wonder what type material the brake pads are. 82 dealers in US, nothing shows to Antarctica

  • @jameshind6644
    @jameshind6644 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review as always Dave. The $64,000 dollar question is, If you only buy one off road/ adventure bike what would you pick as your weapon of choice.

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      3 actually. A mid sized twin, my 701 and my soon to be built 501

    • @jameshind6644
      @jameshind6644 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV That’s cheating Dave. A least you mentioned the one I bought today.

  • @jettaca88
    @jettaca88 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent review as always.

  • @NavySeal_1999
    @NavySeal_1999 ปีที่แล้ว

    sry to say. Bike videos need to be 60fps. This looks alot laggy. I know the get bigger, but then make them in 1080p or 1440p but in 60fps. Thx for the great work guys.

  • @bivouacmoto6440
    @bivouacmoto6440 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love all of your videos and hope to have the pleasure of finding my way down there one day. The moto market is flooded with ADV bikes these days but I still find my way back to my 640 Adv. Sure, some parts are getting harder to find, but it still beats most new bikes on the spec sheet and the LC4 is a ripper of an engine. 🙂Hope to find a 660 Rallye to add to the collection one day (my 620 Rallye has too many unobtanium parts)!
    Manufacturers need to do better to bring us better built new bikes for the prices they are charging. My 2002 WR250F has 43mm Kayaba forks, and this Aprilia 20 years later has similar? Then you need to upgrade the skid plate, add radiator guards, etc. out of the showroom? Maybe I'm getting old but I'd like to see things evolve for better...
    Keep up the fantastic content, it keeps me busy during the winter months!

  • @davidmorgan9358
    @davidmorgan9358 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Dave , this Bike review is awesome , its certainly made me sit up and look at the key features , i like the low seta height , low centre of gravity , easier filter change , all important attributes for an adventure bike , as you said they didnt skimp on quality and a 240 mm travel suspension with Brembo brakes is an awesome start . It would be interesting to compare the low speed torque that comes straight of zero throttle as a comparison to T7 , as thats an important feature on any adventure bike to have that useable power delivery right down low , particularly in very tight uncertain technical terrains , That said , the bike seemed to handle that with ease when you were , as you called it doodling around in the granite rock formations . All In All seems like a very very fierce competitor to the Yamaha T700 . Great review Dave 5 out 5 stars ✅✅✅✅✅

  • @michiganmoto7687
    @michiganmoto7687 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m so sold on this bike. Still have some saving to do but it’s a long winter for me. 😁

  • @drewiliffe4855
    @drewiliffe4855 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great real world review, especially at 30 minutes...

  • @pedrovazquez9146
    @pedrovazquez9146 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review as always, making me rethink what type of bike to keep in the garage…holding off until V-Strom 800DE review.

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes that will be interesting. Clubby rides the Strom in late March.

    • @pedrovazquez9146
      @pedrovazquez9146 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV can’t wait for another amazing review

  • @wazzanose
    @wazzanose ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm interested to hear what you think of it Dave. It's a bike that appeals to me.

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We spent a good deal of time on it so I'm confident I've got a decent understanding of it.

    • @wazzanose
      @wazzanose ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Great vid as usual mate. You've made me even keener to get one. I googled Dumyah Rd and Google Maps said it's in Israel, can I have another clue?

  • @caroldave4037
    @caroldave4037 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a aprilia owner in past pegaso trail 660 ive showroom viewed tuareg but im still prefering the low tech tenere....had vstrom 1050xt and im not missing the tech at all.... atb from uk 🎅🍻🍾🎈🎁🎉🎊🍹

  • @AnomadAlaska
    @AnomadAlaska ปีที่แล้ว

    @21:11 Be careful riding under big 3 phase transmission line service trails like that. Especially if it is windy/dusty. One electrifying experience was enough for me. I avoid them completely. Thanks for the thorough review.

  • @scottporter0069
    @scottporter0069 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. Excited to see you just throw your leg over then sit flat footed. Just wished you could have mentioned how tall you are or your inseam so I had something to compare to. If ya read this a year later and reply that would be awesome. Thanks Scott

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      178 cm tall. 5 ft 10 ins. We;ll be testing the 2024 models soon.

    • @scottporter0069
      @scottporter0069 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Thank you sir. That helps. Looking forward to you next video ad well. They are a bit pricey but I'm banking you get what ya pay for.

  • @ajede1
    @ajede1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Dave - as usual great content and great reviews. It would be great if, after each of these longer range reviews/trips, you posted or made available the map routes to help us newer adventure riders find great rides to undertake.

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not keen on that for a number of reasons. I do give hints. Adventure is about discovering things yourself. If you want to follow gpx routes go on a tour. That's what I do and that's equally rewarding and fun.

    • @riccto
      @riccto ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Completely respect your decision not to share GPX, would you mind saying why? Seems a simple revenue raiser for you.

  • @davidmallia628
    @davidmallia628 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant test! My only criticism is that you did not have the yellow colour scheme bike, also.

  • @Braapncamp
    @Braapncamp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this review MAD TV, perfect this wintermorning with a hot ☕️🤌. As always very relevant points and thoughts in your videos and reviews. I really like what I see in this "Towrag" engineered for purpose, nice specs for ADV. I've only sat on one but not ridden it yet. A friend has one and seems happy, especially after finding out how to turn off that antiwheelie function ☝️🤣. I can't really like the front of the bike, but what the h, this is not something you see behind the bars. As You say, it is very interesting to see how this bike hits between the thumpers and existing middleweight bikes, as a lower weight middlewheight bike. I will get y 2023 890 Adv R in a couple of weeks and the first ones hit the floor this week at the dealers. Never bought a bike in the winter before... 👀😅😝😂. Happy Trails!

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We'll be riding the 790 AdvR in late March. That will be interesting. Incremental improvements on a good thing already.

    • @Braapncamp
      @Braapncamp ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV That will be interesting to watch. When I turned in my old 790R to the dealer they sold in like 12h. Wierd feeling to be bikeless for a few weeks... I will ofc do my own comparison on the "old" 790R to the new 890R. I see positive updates on the marketing wording... I did not feel it was time to get the "Old" 890R when that came but it was interesting to get a feeling with the new engine. Definitely better low end and take off grunt, but the revvy 790 has it's charm. Have not seen any price tag on the new 790 yet, bet KTM will make it compete with the T7, Tuareg and new Transalp. My new 890R was just a couple of 100's € from the DesertX when kited with the electronics and other nice to/must have's.

    • @twowheelpilot
      @twowheelpilot ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Braapncamp Chinese thou mate. Brembo brakes gone, hydraulic clutch gone plus a tech pack needed which is horse shit. At leave Aprilia give you it all and Brembo brakes for less.

    • @miro_s
      @miro_s ปีที่แล้ว

      I seem to remember you had a 790/890 R before. Going back?

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@miro_s I had two 990s and tested both the 790 and 890

  • @SuperCheesyMan
    @SuperCheesyMan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5 haters don't like that Aprilia did a brilliant job lol
    Great review!

  • @ZedThirtyOne_Z31_
    @ZedThirtyOne_Z31_ ปีที่แล้ว

    26mm nut, same nut as Ducati(?) and Guzzi.
    Not their 1st, Tuareg Wind and Pegaso Trail (Caponord Rally larger Capacity)
    Plenty of bolt on options already.
    Aprilia Tuareg 660: 2022 bikesales Bike of the Year Winner

  • @mart7404
    @mart7404 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review guys. I love mine and am super happy I was unable to locate a T7 and then the Tuareg came out. What tires were you running? They did not look like the stock Perellis?

  • @warriorcombatsystems4802
    @warriorcombatsystems4802 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys are my favourite channel, just a question is the 660 lams approved as I’d love this for my first adventure bike

  • @Ritalie
    @Ritalie ปีที่แล้ว

    Like, did they not think that people wanted an 80 horsepower dirt bike that revved to 10,000 rpms, with zero vibration, and a nasty airbox growl? Making the Tuareg 660 twin seems like the easiest marketing decision in the world. Why on Earth did Kawasaki not build this bike yet? Kawasaki has made a whole array of neat and powerful parallel twin motorcycles, and yet they put the slowest single cylinder motor on their KLR650. All consumers ever needed was a parallel twin on their dirt bike, to make it a real enduro. Thank God for Aprilia. they saved the day.

  • @anthonyATteamMUROC
    @anthonyATteamMUROC ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for an enjoyable video. I believe you chaps are from Sydney but for this vid, you started in Brizzie. How did you get the bikes up here can I ask? A blast up the highway and then return? Still windy here…Christmas is the worst time for weather up this way. Cheers…

  • @outthere79stefanobisanti31
    @outthere79stefanobisanti31 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey brother just wanted to let you know that I love your work! I believe this is the best adv channel out there.
    I’m in the buying for an adv to change my Ducati Multistrada 1200s and I was wondering what will you recommend to me: desert x or tuareg? Thanks mate

  • @mihai1581
    @mihai1581 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mine arrives tomorrow !

  • @yayoi1
    @yayoi1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ring up Barkbuster and have them send you a set of their aluminum guards along with their bar-end weights. The latter will reduce the annoying handlebar vibrations to an acceptable level.

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I didn't notice them.

    • @yayoi1
      @yayoi1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Surprising, vibration is one of the biggest complaints among 500 owners. I thought that's why you were hauling it out by car instead of riding.

  • @Niki_Parvanov
    @Niki_Parvanov ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait for you chaps to compare it to the new TransAlp

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว

      As long as you know there's going to be no comparison with the suspension. The quality on this bike leaves the Honda's for dead.

  • @elgringoec
    @elgringoec ปีที่แล้ว

    That was fun. Great job! Beautiful countryside! It was weird watching you guys ride on the wrong side of the road so much. Get right, stay right, don't run into the little truck now. hehe
    Gunyah bike!
    Well, it's not very helpful that you didn't rule out my consideration of this bike. I mean, I want a T7. I think. Used to; less sure now. But that happens if that ride controller fails? That's a lot of Vegemite to swallow. Fumble the dice...
    Cheers!!

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed it! Tenere is very reliable. ...if that makes things harder for you. :)

    • @elgringoec
      @elgringoec ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      😂
      That's definitely important!
      But...
      What good is a working bike if it's just sitting in the garage?
      Something I can't resist riding would be nice.
      Something that helps me recover from making a boneheaded move. 😂😎

  • @Light_Sleeper
    @Light_Sleeper ปีที่แล้ว

    Let's face it friends people watch reviews for confirmation bias as much if not more than actual info- Dave, Clubby and the gang have a terrific way of making folks feel okay with their decision. I've not seen them endorse a stinker yet and they're quite clear on the parameters/capabilities of lesser performing bikes. Glad the 660 isn't one of them! Many thanks for the review!

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว

      Things are close with the top performers to get to the top of the pile this year you need on the fly traction control, fully adjustable suspension that actually works, a TFT screen that allows for quick response to rider demands, a screen that works, let alone all the other stuff. Aprilia is in the cream for this year. What could drop it down a notch and time will tell, after sales service, reliability.

  • @aufnahmen6278
    @aufnahmen6278 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello, how many liters does your tank fit? My Tuareg 660 model 2022 doesn't fit more than 15.6 liters. I ran the tank completely empty and then filled it up.

  • @TheAshfishman
    @TheAshfishman ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work fellas. Food for thought to replace my CB500X.

  • @drzrider3440
    @drzrider3440 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful scenery. If i did know where you were, id swear you were in the states. Not firmiliar with this route you guys are on. At least i dont remember seeing it in your videos.

  • @BMRTV
    @BMRTV ปีที่แล้ว

    20:10 It's less "good bike" vs "bad bike" and much more preference and how each person is using the machine.

  • @JosepMSala
    @JosepMSala ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, I follow your reviews, which I appreciate very much, because I find this experienced rider point of view that I find priceless.
    I'm quite new in off road, and I'm between Tuareg and Norden. I test rided the Aprilia and liked it very much in all the aspects that you pointed, apart from the handlebar which I find a bit high. I like the Norden as well but everywhere I read it's quite heavy and not so nimble, despite on paper, it's only 15 kg heavier than the Tuareg. Do you find it relevant? I mean, is the Tuareg much easier to ride? Thanks a lot and congrats for your work.

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those two are very close, particularly for your skill level. It's your personal preference they are both excellent bikes.

  • @ronzelina6682
    @ronzelina6682 ปีที่แล้ว

    Noiche review Dave, sorry for the crappy Brisvegas weather. Rocky River Road - you missed it going straight on the bitumen from Winsor Motorcycles to Tenterfield. Our clubs FAV annual meeting spot." Bevel & Bulshit' where the "Oldtimer' Ducati come out to play. Be interested in the GPX File to cooy Clubby's route to Sin City 😂 Gunya Rd eh !

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No GPX heading your way. That's our policy :)

    • @ronzelina6682
      @ronzelina6682 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV No worries Dave happy, I will still send you the 2 day route Brisvegas to Tenterfirld via Rocky River Rd. Awesome dirt run, perhaps one day you'll get to do it. 👌

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ronzelina6682 HI Ron, I did that the other day, have a look at the video before this one that features Nugget.

  • @ashboyd6277
    @ashboyd6277 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow great opening footage

  • @davebrien8487
    @davebrien8487 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Dave. Sideshow here. What's the deal with tyre pressure monitoring? Having it is a deal breaker for me. Prefer to run a separate system independent of the bike warning system. I note your experience with it on the triumph was similar to what happens on the BMW. I mean, I do like to know what the pressure is. I don't like when the warning lights are on when the pressure has dropped from 36 in the front, to 28 for example.

  • @actstuntcam
    @actstuntcam ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review - Didn't agree with everything, but definitely agreed with a lot of what you said.

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm interested to hear what you didn't agree with. I'm all for respectful debate.

    • @campbellrousselle9752
      @campbellrousselle9752 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV didn't agree about the seat height... A specially mentioned. I hated the brakes on road. There is way too much lever travel before they start to bite, lever is soft, poor feel and grabby. Abs kicks in constantly and is very intrusive. They work OK on gravel though. I agreed about the suspension. I think from standard the front abs rear need a tiny bit more rebound. The front needs more preload, they dive too much and the first part of the travel is so soft it isn't really doing anything useful.

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@campbellrousselle9752 This sounds like poor suspension set up to me. Didn't experience this at all.

    • @campbellrousselle9752
      @campbellrousselle9752 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV in sure the bike would have been in standard settings. Or are you suggesting the bike shop deliberately set the suspension up poorly because they are trying to avoid selling bikes.

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@campbellrousselle9752 Campbell it is completely and surprisingly inconsistent with my observations. I've. been doing reviews for many years. I think we'll leave it there, as you're starting to get defensive. No further correspondence will be entered into. You've had more than a fair say. No more correspondence, or the lot will be removed. Up to you.

  • @pierrejarrige2182
    @pierrejarrige2182 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best bike for 2022. 5500km of pleasure and broaaapness

  • @ducky1496
    @ducky1496 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great test Dave!!! Quick question though. Why do you guys always pull up to the left of the fuel bowser?? Is it an Aussie custom? Thanks!!

  • @teamgas
    @teamgas ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review as always thanks!
    I test rode one of these two up on the road recently!
    If the passenger accommodation was better it could replace my on road and off road bikes.
    Do you reckon it could replace your 701?
    Cheers

  • @bigwill2711
    @bigwill2711 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome ride. Do you have a detail route map. Would love to do something similar myself. Keep up the amazing content.

  • @peterb3473
    @peterb3473 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great review.Dave you wear glasses with a clear visor, does the glare annoy you.

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sometimes, but I like the clarity. I've ridden with transition lenses either on the helmet, and or glasses.......dangerous......you can miss things.

  • @shaytaylor7167
    @shaytaylor7167 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks good! Is that the Klim Krios pro you’re wearing? How do you find it? Have you done a review for it that I haven’t come across 😅

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am sponsored by AdventureMoto in Australia and by default are supported by KLiM. I am issued a helmet each season, so I've seen them continuously improve. I like their safety features, lightness and stability and large face hole?? if that's the word.

  • @cliveparsons7674
    @cliveparsons7674 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Dave,that vest you have on with the front pockets etc,who makes it? And thanks for another excellent vid.

  • @kevinroberts2395
    @kevinroberts2395 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    $22,500 AU for a 660cc motorbike. No thanks. In other markets, it is, apparently, only a bit more than the new Honda Transalp 750. Why are we getting ripped off in Oz??

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Mate there is a huge difference in componetry and performance between these two bikes

    • @kevinroberts2395
      @kevinroberts2395 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV But in other markets they are much closer in cost than they are here. That was my point really. Enjoy your reviews. Cheers.

    • @chrisschepper9312
      @chrisschepper9312 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your dollar is shit, that’s why.

    • @cthierry4428
      @cthierry4428 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      About 6 or 7 pct cheaper in EUR (in my country model 2024) not a big deviation. But I agree inflation made his work.

    • @thepub245
      @thepub245 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are for sale from dealers at £9800 at the moment.

  • @drzrider3440
    @drzrider3440 ปีที่แล้ว

    If i were to buy a mid size adv bike, this would be it no question.