I jump in every chance...and the pilot always waits for me to spawn in after we OCCASIONALLY get nailed.....it's a blast being the gunner on the plane that lets you swivel round for forward firing as well....woo hoo...lol.
When I'm playing operations and notice the enemy pilot is very bad, I usually just let them fly around being useless. If I shot them down, there's a chance a better pilot will hop in a plane and come after me. I'd rather let the bad pilot do their thing and keep killing his teammates myself
"Yeah guys so why is there any point in choosing the dogfighter loadout?!" Oh I don't know maybe the fact that you can instantly repair with the dogfighter loadout?
@@afj810 It's changed. You can see in the first demo that he uses E-Repair on a dogfighter, and it doesn't have the "Extra speed and agility" ability on #3.
Wow I remember that fcking name I was just a newbie Pilot and was Annihilatied like 4-5 times in my Plane Ballroom Blitz Map by this Epic Fcker In his plane. Didn't touch planes for 2 months and Became a Camping Sniper. The Horror
I it wasn't watching Niccaman videos I would have never even unlock a codex for plane. Couldn't even stay in the air before and to mention didn't even know the spoting and when to release the darts. So thanks for that. :D
I think this guy really deserves more subscribers for his contribution. Kinda teaches me how to be an better and more effective pilot. Keep it up man 👍definitely would recommend for beginners ✨
Guys, I forgot to mention, unlike previous battlefield games - there is no speed control in this game. Stay at max speed at all times, if you slow down, your turn is tighter but you take longer to turn full 360. "How to free look on console?" I see 1000 of these comments in every video - can someone answer this to help those guys out? Thanks guys!
MeowHaze The mechanics are different in the campaign for some reason. I practiced on Just Cause 3 which has similar mechanics to Battlefield's multiplayer.
Pretty good dogfighter myself. I use the trench fighter loadout. Best tip besides listening for engine roar, keep your minimap up and constantly spot the enemy plane, you won't lose um
Tyrone Jackson at the same time, spotting flare is harder to us than air radar. With radar it's easier to execute advanced maneuvers such as switch and scissors.
If you think lock ons was part of dogfighting in bf3 you are completely clueless. The dogfighting now just got a lower skill ceiling as there's no speed control. In bf3 a pilot who had mastered speed control would win 100 times out of 100 against a pilot which was not perfect in that part. In bf1 you just hold space and yaw and there's nothing else you can do other than outsmart your opponent with maneuvers.
@@HDuser100 And having an artificial skill gap means...what? I'd rather be defeated by being outmaneuvered by actual flying skill and tact than beat just because someone had better muscle memory. That's just stupid.
I usually use the bomberbuster on the attack plane. the back seat I use as a spawn point for teamates to get a flanking advantage and the rockets are solo effective against other planes, all behemoths, and pretty good at air to ground combat
I don't know if it would work for anyone else, but I love going for the wings. I also like quickly passing over back seat hoppers and trench bombing them, though I take some hits I shouldn't take
There are a lot of moves we can do in dog fights to get behind a enemy plane or to conter an attacking plane... Just look for real dogfight moves. War Thunder is a good exemple and if you use these technics in battlefield you will be wreaking people so much easyer ;)
I tend to spot oncoming and position myself on their six by cutting the engine and preemptively turning onto their path before they pass me. Timing is crucial because if you cut it too early they'll end up on your tail.
when fighting bombers with my trench fighter its really fun flying over them and dropping the bombs. i'm an amateur so with your skills you could probably perfect the technique
Dog fighter wasn't given justice. Could have seen the guy clearly if looking through first person zoom. It has a speed boost, self repair and a sight that can spot planes across the map. You can fly around their spawn, use your zoom to find spawning plane then hit the speed button to get right on them. Then you have the incendiary rounds to damage the other plane very easily.
I think battlefield 1 had a update and gave the dogfighter 15 rounds of flame bullets, so my tactic was to use that 15 rounds to first knock out a wing or two, then use the mg to shoot other planes down
Guys why are you asking for his settings?! Don’t set your settings to his! Because those are the settings that HE’S comfortable with! Find your own settings preference! It’s common sense!
Hi Niccaman, Yes the dual LMG on dogfigher &trench loadout is the same. IMO the dogfighter is useless, the only advantage is that quick repair option, what can be handy if your tail or wing got damaged. Bomber killer got a heavy LMG, slower but higher DPS. SO far the only capable loadout is the trench fighter. Bomber killer´s reload is way too long, and the rockets splash damage is not really good for infantry targets.
I noticed when you do donuts you just do the same circular motion. To gain the maximum speed your plane must be going in a downward angle. You should try when dogfighting to wiggle your plane wing as to get a little bit more distance from the ground and then go into a downward angle to cut that donut in half. Ø < like that
When I use the trench fighter and someone hops in the back of a attack plane or bomber, I use the darts and it either finishes off the plane or the people inside. Takes a bit of practice but it is really effective.
I like killing the snipers that lay down at the edges of the maps with the machineguns of the dogfigther variant cause its better with non moving targets, specially using the scope by zooming in first person view its super accurate and a great trolling/enraging method haha
honestly, I think a met a few and I definitely have been shot down by some! But the reality is that most of the attack planes I encounter simply don't have a rail gunner... A simple seatswitch doesn't make you survive anymore in an attack plane
The auto repair ability makes it near impossible for it to die from air-to-air combat. Its the ultimate air-to-air destroyer but it is the worst air-to-ground fighter. Timing is key with the auto repair.
i only use the dogfighter if i am outnumbered bcuz it have a quick repair option but if u are accurate u can kill infantry with the main guns .The best move in dogfights is switching and losing and scissoring
i LIKE HOW HE HAD ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD TO KEEP GOING BACK TO THE GUY ON THE GROUND AND NOT ONE ENEMY PLANE CAME AROUND TO SHOOT HIM DOWN..aFTER I TAKE A PLANE DOWN YOU CAN BELIEVE HE HAS A FRIEND WHO PULLS UP BEHIND ME AND STARTS SPRAYING HA
If we are chasing but see each other then my strategy is to pull up as soon as I hear them pass me, I don't slow down while going straight up , they usually lose sight of me, if they see me then I'll do it again but this time I let them get right on my tail and gain ground, I pull up again but instead of continuing to climb, I slow down, they don't expect it.
sometimes if a AA is soooooo annoying I have actually kamikazed into thm out of pure rage and knowing that my allies will have to deal with that snoot-boot-burger-ding'in-muffun down there.
Good tips, but when I go in circles with my plane like that for more than twenty seconds then my mouse always reaches the end of the mousepad and then I have to lift the mouse up and bring it back to the bottom of the mousepad, but then the enemy plane can shoot me many times. So... how do you avoid this?
I've always wonder if it was just me doing those silly circles or if everyone did that. I hate nothing more than following a fighter, him somehow escaping, getting behind me and me being unable to escape no matter WHAT I do :/ so frustrating.
Trench Fighter is for me a bit to cowardy, as it doesn't risk anything. Attack Plane has high risk and high reward on every map :) It is big difference that main gun of attack plane can snipe out infantries, while fighters should just wait until the bomb gets reloaded.
I go with attack plane.... because I'm new to BF plane flying... so not that good in dog fighting.... with jumping backseat keeps me on air 9 times out of 10.. And just get more ground kills with attack planes primary/bombs "default load out if I recall it correctly" I tried trench fighter after seeing your videos... but at moment least enjoy more attack planes
+niccaman my tip is for AA is to dive and fly close to the ground because there is much more things blocking his line of sight. on the dogfight part, if im being chased i normally do a 2 circles and than pull up and brake, is required that the other pilot is close to you so keep your speed low. other nice methode is if the other pilot is close to you is zig zag with verry low speed which you almost fall out of the sky since the other pilot will overshoot you and its an easy kill
To free look on u push in the right analog stick on xbox at least. Nicc i just found ur channel today and I was a average pilot before but just finished a match and was the best pilot in the lobby. :)
I assume dealing with attack planes that are fully staffed the same rules apply? From what I was watching you approach of attack planes and bombers are always at angles and hit and runs. Is this correct? Also there is this other kat who posted a sick vid of his dog fight and he had like 100 : 1 kd. This dude was flying over bombers and attack planes and he would kill them with his bomblets. It was sick as fuck.
attack planes could actually be the best if the tail gunners could FREAKING STAY IN THE PLANE.
@Jean_Napoléon Takes too long to switch, and if the enemy pilot is as competent as Niccaman, you won't have a chance to hit him much.
I jump in every chance...and the pilot always waits for me to spawn in after we OCCASIONALLY get nailed.....it's a blast being the gunner on the plane that lets you swivel round for forward firing as well....woo hoo...lol.
i never get any tail gunners when i play but my enemies always do.
double kills at an AA means there was a line waiting to kill you.
lmao!
Hahahahaha
Niccaman, I think you deserve more attention as a battlefield one TH-camr. your videos are so informative and helpful.
See in Civilization games it's not so crazy when cavalry units kill air units...
When I'm playing operations and notice the enemy pilot is very bad, I usually just let them fly around being useless. If I shot them down, there's a chance a better pilot will hop in a plane and come after me. I'd rather let the bad pilot do their thing and keep killing his teammates myself
Sada Twinkletoes nah i just want kills bruh, maybe i would let him fly to let a new pilot be born
My hero, I'm trash
I dogfight with someone for 4 mins on fao fortress, because no one was taking us down I said to him. A truce? and he agreed.
lmao
@Centauri A Gaming nice job 👏
"Yeah guys so why is there any point in choosing the dogfighter loadout?!"
Oh I don't know maybe the fact that you can instantly repair with the dogfighter loadout?
no thats bomber killer
@@afj810 It's changed. You can see in the first demo that he uses E-Repair on a dogfighter, and it doesn't have the "Extra speed and agility" ability on #3.
@@BlackOps2543x ah nvm I see now
It comes with Inc round as a secondary which does more damage to planes
Wow I remember that fcking name I was just a newbie Pilot and was Annihilatied like 4-5 times in my Plane Ballroom Blitz Map by this Epic Fcker In his plane.
Didn't touch planes for 2 months and Became a Camping Sniper.
The Horror
This guy deserves more subs! Great tutorial, and the vid is really well put together. Decent
Cheers my dude!
Niccaman can you please post more these tips help and are entertaining POST MORE PLEASE
I it wasn't watching Niccaman videos I would have never even unlock a codex for plane.
Couldn't even stay in the air before and to mention didn't even know the spoting and when to release the darts.
So thanks for that. :D
I think this guy really deserves more subscribers for his contribution. Kinda teaches me how to be an better and more effective pilot. Keep it up man 👍definitely would recommend for beginners ✨
Guys, I forgot to mention, unlike previous battlefield games - there is no speed control in this game. Stay at max speed at all times, if you slow down, your turn is tighter but you take longer to turn full 360.
"How to free look on console?"
I see 1000 of these comments in every video - can someone answer this to help those guys out? Thanks guys!
Niccaman I think its press down on left stick
Niccaman It does not work 50% of the time
Go into first person mode and hold down L3, while holding this down use R3 to look around (this is for PS4)
How do you do it on xbox
This is 100% correct
How do you kill other planes so fast? On console it's impossible to consistently shoot a plane that's ahead of you
dude what? its so much easier on console
Practice mate
Play the pilot campaign a lot.. You will get better.. Trust me..
MeowHaze The mechanics are different in the campaign for some reason. I practiced on Just Cause 3 which has similar mechanics to Battlefield's multiplayer.
So essentially continue circling until he gets bored.
This helped me a lot! I watched this, then went in to a game, utilized these tips, and used the bomber killer fighter to destroy 7 planes!
The flying horse sold me, subbing.
Pretty good dogfighter myself. I use the trench fighter loadout. Best tip besides listening for engine roar, keep your minimap up and constantly spot the enemy plane, you won't lose um
I've been flying since BF3. Got to say that dogfighting in BF1 is a bit different. Can't tell whether t's easier or harder tho.
MZ4Frost easier, no lock ons
Tyrone Jackson at the same time, spotting flare is harder to us than air radar. With radar it's easier to execute advanced maneuvers such as switch and scissors.
MZ4Frost gotta agree with that one
If you think lock ons was part of dogfighting in bf3 you are completely clueless. The dogfighting now just got a lower skill ceiling as there's no speed control. In bf3 a pilot who had mastered speed control would win 100 times out of 100 against a pilot which was not perfect in that part. In bf1 you just hold space and yaw and there's nothing else you can do other than outsmart your opponent with maneuvers.
@@HDuser100 And having an artificial skill gap means...what? I'd rather be defeated by being outmaneuvered by actual flying skill and tact than beat just because someone had better muscle memory. That's just stupid.
Probably the most valuable plane tips video I've seen thus far.
Happy to see you're still tearing up the skies, Nic!
I usually use the bomberbuster on the attack plane. the back seat I use as a spawn point for teamates to get a flanking advantage and the rockets are solo effective against other planes, all behemoths, and pretty good at air to ground combat
I can see niccaman being a really good youtuber
I don't know if it would work for anyone else, but I love going for the wings. I also like quickly passing over back seat hoppers and trench bombing them, though I take some hits I shouldn't take
Man I miss the good ol bf1 days and all youtubers uploading gameplay from the game
Hey I saw that cavalry clip on StoneMountain's Top10 BF1 WTF moments. Noice
There are a lot of moves we can do in dog fights to get behind a enemy plane or to conter an attacking plane... Just look for real dogfight moves. War Thunder is a good exemple and if you use these technics in battlefield you will be wreaking people so much easyer ;)
Great video Nic. I always struggle to shift fighters. now I will try this . Thanks
You trying to kill that grounded pilot was the funniest thing I've ever seen.
I tend to spot oncoming and position myself on their six by cutting the engine and preemptively turning onto their path before they pass me. Timing is crucial because if you cut it too early they'll end up on your tail.
when fighting bombers with my trench fighter its really fun flying over them and dropping the bombs. i'm an amateur so with your skills you could probably perfect the technique
I like the bomber killer, you get the extra speed thing and missiles to get easy kills on attack planes and bombers.
Dog fighter wasn't given justice. Could have seen the guy clearly if looking through first person zoom.
It has a speed boost, self repair and a sight that can spot planes across the map. You can fly around their spawn, use your zoom to find spawning plane then hit the speed button to get right on them. Then you have the incendiary rounds to damage the other plane very easily.
Great vid.
The hardware you play with definitely makes a massive difference. So for headphones, or surround speaker set up, yeah, it'll help.
I think battlefield 1 had a update and gave the dogfighter 15 rounds of flame bullets, so my tactic was to use that 15 rounds to first knock out a wing or two, then use the mg to shoot other planes down
Nah that's for losers I like to go above the plane with a trench fighter and knock them out with the rods
The Dogfighter variant can be better than the Trench Bomber because it has an auto repair gadget as apposed to a flare.
bomber killer has that too
I got my exit vehicle on 'U' because of the rage :D
Guys why are you asking for his settings?! Don’t set your settings to his! Because those are the settings that HE’S comfortable with! Find your own settings preference! It’s common sense!
Hi Niccaman,
Yes the dual LMG on dogfigher &trench loadout is the same. IMO the dogfighter is useless, the only advantage is that quick repair option, what can be handy if your tail or wing got damaged. Bomber killer got a heavy LMG, slower but higher DPS.
SO far the only capable loadout is the trench fighter. Bomber killer´s reload is way too long, and the rockets splash damage is not really good for infantry targets.
Well, try it, you will see !
Yeh it's different and it says in the loadout screen. I've been using the bomber killer lately and it's a lot of fun - will do a video on it soon
Lol I love those seat jumpers, they think everyone is going to continue chasing instead take small bites out of them
I noticed when you do donuts you just do the same circular motion. To gain the maximum speed your plane must be going in a downward angle. You should try when dogfighting to wiggle your plane wing as to get a little bit more distance from the ground and then go into a downward angle to cut that donut in half. Ø < like that
Great Video Niccaman and Excellent Flying...!!!
The scariest part about dogfighting is when you go into the spiral of death.
When I use the trench fighter and someone hops in the back of a attack plane or bomber, I use the darts and it either finishes off the plane or the people inside. Takes a bit of practice but it is really effective.
I like killing the snipers that lay down at the edges of the maps with the machineguns of the dogfigther variant cause its better with non moving targets, specially using the scope by zooming in first person view its super accurate and a great trolling/enraging method haha
That calvary kill was the power of the SOVIET UNION
Are you forgetting the flaming bullets on the dogfighter? There amazing.
I drop fighter planes all the time in the attack plane ground support. I hit him with the front gun a few times he's gone.
It's funny how many attack planes you still see (on console at least), given that they stand no chance vs a fighter
NHVideoHD only good, sometimes i use the canon on the attack plane just for fun :)
oh and btw, I managed to lower my vehicle sensitivity without knowing, last game attack planes did turn better than my fighter...
honestly, I think a met a few and I definitely have been shot down by some! But the reality is that most of the attack planes I encounter simply don't have a rail gunner... A simple seatswitch doesn't make you survive anymore in an attack plane
NHVideoHD true and otherwise you go down and attack him outside his field of view, thats aleast my tactic
mark k yeah I always do that too, but sometimes I'm too late or the gunner can get me disabled from very far away, happened to me once I think
The dogfighter is good at air to ground combat you just have to aim through the sights
That cav guy is legend!
lovely vid again nicca, keep it up 💪
Rolling scissors( a wide barrel roll) is the best way to to lose them. they get annoyed and bug out, then you jump on them later.
This tutorial left me in the same spot, you didn't explained any maneuvers or speed control while in a dog fight.
I'm now convinced that cavalry units are jedi
The auto repair ability makes it near impossible for it to die from air-to-air combat. Its the ultimate air-to-air destroyer but it is the worst air-to-ground fighter. Timing is key with the auto repair.
i only use the dogfighter if i am outnumbered bcuz it have a quick repair option but if u are accurate u can kill infantry with the main guns .The best move in dogfights is switching and losing and scissoring
bro you are the best plane pilot of the world in bf1
Great tutorial man. Sub earned.
i LIKE HOW HE HAD ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD TO KEEP GOING BACK TO THE GUY ON THE GROUND AND NOT ONE ENEMY PLANE CAME AROUND TO SHOOT HIM DOWN..aFTER I TAKE A PLANE DOWN YOU CAN BELIEVE HE HAS A FRIEND WHO PULLS UP BEHIND ME AND STARTS SPRAYING HA
When I had a fighter on my tail I flew straight towards the ground and he followed the pulled up but he didn't and crashed into the ground lol
I was thinking about exactly the same tactic a while ago... Doesnt work for me though, i am the one who crashes in most of the cases lol
the bomber killer is awesome
nice vid man! :) funny and good tips too! :)
Niccman accelarate to full speed after the apex of the turn and that should help with lengthy turns.
I feel bad for the adults who came here to try stop their dogs fighting
If we are chasing but see each other then my strategy is to pull up as soon as I hear them pass me, I don't slow down while going straight up , they usually lose sight of me, if they see me then I'll do it again but this time I let them get right on my tail and gain ground, I pull up again but instead of continuing to climb, I slow down, they don't expect it.
I just use the heavy bomber and the behemoth killer assault plane kit, it's pretty good for dog fighting and I'm also accurate with the back turret
sometimes if a AA is soooooo annoying I have actually kamikazed into thm out of pure rage and knowing that my allies will have to deal with that snoot-boot-burger-ding'in-muffun down there.
You can get quick repair upto 20% in Dogfight plane. Which is actually great when you about to die and get away using this.
Good tips, but when I go in circles with my plane like that for more than twenty seconds then my mouse always reaches the end of the mousepad and then I have to lift the mouse up and bring it back to the bottom of the mousepad, but then the enemy plane can shoot me many times. So... how do you avoid this?
When I spoke about settings in the video - I mention setting pitch up to space bar. All you have to do is hold down space bar !
Oh sorry I guess I didn't catch that, thanks for the reply :)
Oh man I had no idea the dogfighter load out was for dogfighting
I've seen the part where the guy kills you with the cavalry sword in a top plays video I swear it lolol
love your vids
To free look on Xbox go in first person, hold down the left stick and look with the right stick
Ty very much i just needed this tips 😉
I think they changed the trench fighters primary so the bullets are effected by gravity
2:52
initiate ottoman mode
3:11
*OTTOMAN MODE INTENSIFYING"
3:15
*TURKISH MODE INITIATED*
too good man... bad luck did not see this before and wasted time on attack planes...
I've always wonder if it was just me doing those silly circles or if everyone did that. I hate nothing more than following a fighter, him somehow escaping, getting behind me and me being unable to escape no matter WHAT I do :/ so frustrating.
Trench Fighter is for me a bit to cowardy, as it doesn't risk anything. Attack Plane has high risk and high reward on every map :) It is big difference that main gun of attack plane can snipe out infantries, while fighters should just wait until the bomb gets reloaded.
Great video!
Cheers PsychoPoon ;)
I go with attack plane.... because I'm new to BF plane flying... so not that good in dog fighting.... with jumping backseat keeps me on air 9 times out of 10..
And just get more ground kills with attack planes primary/bombs
"default load out if I recall it correctly"
I tried trench fighter after seeing your videos...
but at moment least enjoy more attack planes
when I walk doing the objective is spot enemy planes nearby hoping are planes help out but nope sometime lol XD
You sir, are a beast
I went 62 and 2 last night with the trench fighter loadout.that was in a conquest tho.
The dogfighter now has incindiery bullets
+niccaman my tip is for AA is to dive and fly close to the ground because there is much more things blocking his line of sight.
on the dogfight part, if im being chased i normally do a 2 circles and than pull up and brake, is required that the other pilot is close to you so keep your speed low.
other nice methode is if the other pilot is close to you is zig zag with verry low speed which you almost fall out of the sky since the other pilot will overshoot you and its an easy kill
Awesome video
Top gun class here!
That's one thing I hate is when the round is over and you cannot move and your plane crashes and you take a death which wasn't really your fault.
To free look on u push in the right analog stick on xbox at least. Nicc i just found ur channel today and I was a average pilot before but just finished a match and was the best pilot in the lobby. :)
Left analog stick sorry.
Reason to use dogfighter: incendiary rounds
5:23 fail you said "pitch up" and you pointed at pitch down.
Did you forget about the incendiary rounds on the dog fighter loadout? O.o
Holy shit that is one hell of a guy the one who used the Calvary to kill u just wow
This op stuff is why they need to remove the self repair and bombs on the fighter.
thats a cold cav sword!
Awesome guide on dogfighting. Mind sharing what's your vehicle sensitivity and mouse DPI?
I assume dealing with attack planes that are fully staffed the same rules apply? From what I was watching you approach of attack planes and bombers are always at angles and hit and runs. Is this correct? Also there is this other kat who posted a sick vid of his dog fight and he had like 100 : 1 kd. This dude was flying over bombers and attack planes and he would kill them with his bomblets. It was sick as fuck.
Nice video mate👍🏼 i am EKspace in case u are wondering
you never try bomber killer ? it s a cool feeling when you frag with it !