Renault Kangoo ZE 33 kWh review
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Regen is so strong it actually goes backwards 😂
The regen is strong with this one - Darth Nyland
Thanks for also paying attention to commercial vehicles which some of us use. Kangoo and e-NV200, loved the comparison as they are the only really available EV vans in Europe. As always great job!
@Gibbon I've only driven ICE versions of both, Renault is much nicer
Imagine you are a plumber and you need to do some pipes...... I love the humor Bjorn!!!!
thank you for your dedication to reviewing pure EVs and skipping the cars with gasoline and a small battery
When I was working with the french post office, i drove this Kangoo VE every day, in the center of the city of Tours. It was pleasant. Our cars have not the touchscreen. No regrets ! #ergonomy
You should have tried e-NV200.
I left the job too soon !
;)
Changing my activity may offer the opportunity to be a regular ev driver/owner ... the choice of my future car will be inspired by your tests !
Love the reviews on the vans. Looking to buy an electric van for my plumbing business. Keep up the good work.
Sometimes I think Bjorn has never seen a van before... "It seems stripped back" That's kind of what the inside of a van looks like :-)
Positive thing is, no rapidgate possible. 😉
I think the regen is so strong because cars like this are usually fully loaded
Also, you don't need that much hp since it would only shake up your the materials you need for your clients.
+Rowan Broekman Have you ever met vans on the motorway? They drive like they stole the van.
@@bjornnyland Haha, yes, but those are usually delivery guys that don't care, but if you got stuff that can't be scratched or anything like it will do those things much less. Also note that these guys drive a lot more then average and often on new and unknown places and you can't look over your shoulder, like in a normal car, which is very annoying in the city.
Nice video.
I think this car can make sense in a small fleet of vehicles where they could dispatch the short trip assignments with the Kangoo Z.E., maybe along some e-NV200 for longer distances.
E-NV200 has rapidgate...
Drove one that was out for auction. Not a bad driving experience and perfect as a second car replacing an ICE and a trailer for gardening trash, weekend shopping, and bike transport if you don´t need great range. I really would like one, but they are almost as rare as rocking horse shit, also the battery leasing on older cars sucks.
Haha that part about the diesel heater is just too funny. But I can see why it makes sense in the Scandinavian area. Just so weird ^^
Makes total sence here. Some people has fitted a dieselheater in Leaf.
Heater takes A LOT of power in cold weather..
The company where i work has one for a few years. Not bad, zero problems, only tires and windscreen wipers changed.
Only slow charge, little range and poor power are the downsides. Everybody drives it like they stole it, me included!
Kudos for this very nice Renault representative person!
It looks like a dialogue between a curious kid asking many questions to his Dad, like: Why ...? Why ...? Why ...? LOL!
Hi i have this Kangoo from 2018 but 5 seater, 269 000 km, and SOH still at 95% ! I think it's pretty impressive ;) 1200 full charges and 3200 partial. on -21 i still can make almost 130km (with Webasto gasoline heater) , in summer with AC it's about 200km.
As for soundproofing, you need to install a floor to reduce the noise. It's a commercial van, not a vanity vehicle
9:10 The storage above the windshield is called "Kangaroo Pouch", this explain the name of the car!
Its basic but if they can keep down the price well thats ok. Seems to be what Renault are good at. Also, plumbers and carpenters might not be so worried about refinements etc. It would be good to test out the Kangoo in Norway in the winter, for range and that diesel heater...
Can you review the smart ED? Not super available, but i would LOVE to see what you think of it haha
The Kangoo ZE has been on the market slightly longer than the Tesla Model S, iirc, launched at more or less the same time as the Fluence.
I'm driving this car since august 2016 for my job but only in the city of Ghent in Flanders, just only short trips. It's a nice car for city driving, the regen makes it perfect for one pedal driving. I don't know the capacity of my car but those ranges or not correct. Maybe they have now a bigger battery but mine does in summer an estimated 140km in summer and 75 in winter. Last winter(forgot to put diesel in it for the heating) I had to drive around 15km back to work where the charging staging was and had 50 km of range. it was snowing abnormal for this region. I had to stop to heating because of traffic blocked half way and range dropped very fast. The traction control is bad, made it hard to just get over a speed bump with normal tires. But I love the car.
+Cantus Moribundus This one has the upgraded battery.
Ow I missed that they upgraded. I got interested about EV after driving this car and off course following your channel. It's good that you cover this type of cars because I was just happy for my short range use of it. Sleeping in it in Norway in the no option version I drive would be a bad idea :)
lmao, the guy telling you you'd love it once you drive it... "i'ma hammer it... oh..." XDDD that touchscreen tho! XD
Would a red Swingline stapler fit in the overhead compartment along with the TPS reports?
TPS reports! Brilliant.
Imagine driving to Tromsø with this.
Very informative in deed. Regarding the charger, this surprises me that the Kangoo can only charge 7,6kW. I assume Renault uses the same engine as the ZOE. This would enable the car to use the charging concept of the ZOE which is lowest in cost because the motor electronic and the stator windings are used also as powerful converter to charge the battery with 22kW or even 43kW 3 phase. Or uses the Kangoo probably the drive train of the Nissan NV200?
omg please tell me that screen slides forward. that would drive you mad on Nimber tasks.
you should test the power from the fossil heater for saunamode with your buddy Jørgen ;-)
soundproofing and seats are bad on the E-NV . Please review Berlingo/Partner (if you can find one that is!)
Björn, was it posible to control the touchscreen with the buttons behind the wheel? (normally used for controlling the radio). I thought I saw them in your video.
It is. While driving touch screen is disabled.
I think older renault ev, e.g. Fluence drivers will disagree about the charge port being in the front "always"
Hahaha laughing so hard when you leaned forward to touch the touchscreen 😂
e-nv200 is so much better and is like 60 000 nok more then this. You should test the parthner/berlingo electric they are even cheaper then this with smaller battery but with fast charge.
I thought the power delivery was very smooth on this van but when I drove it didn’t think instrumentation was user friendly & the difference between eco on & off was very negotiable. Very sluggish the overall experience was poor for me 5 out of ten & the env200 was way way above this vehicle imho outright winner was a Nissan en-v200
Ok I drive / own a campervan version but love this van
We need race to Trondheim to confirm Kangoo rapid gate
We have this car at work, has arond 140.000 km from I thought. Now it only has 22KWH left, plus min 100km range mixed driving in summer. Build quality is wors than most other Vans, seats are better than most vans. For City delevery it is fine, highway range is
Those mileage estimates are based on an EMPTY delivery van, kinda takes the wind out of yer sails. LOAD IT UP, and how does it do? (And when will we see EV vans in the US?)
Hehe, that is one reluctant touch screen. Do you think they hoped you wouldn't be curious? 😁
Awesome!
Bjørn nyland what do you think finland and what do you like it good or bad. I am from finland and i like your videos to watch. Please answer to me soon as possible.
What about consumption and efficiency compared to ENV200?
@SDD525add as much accessories as into env200
I wonder what the acceleration would be like with the back full of tools.
If it was a fraction bigger and had a lot more battery I'd consider it. It's a good concept and they are pretty much the only one in the market.
Bigger battery, stronger motor and fast charging.
I even don't understand why they don't use the same batteries and motors as the Zoe. Even with the chameleon chargers it would make a huge difference.
+Rowan Broekman So you don't care about the touchscreen design at all?
@@bjornnyland No, I won't even look at it, most electricians work with a tablet where they get all the locations and navigation and jobs they have to do on that screen and when it's attached on the radio you can even get your music from it. For me the whole screen is like an airco on the north pole or a heater in the desert. What kind of info can you see on it that would be usefull? Unless you need the touch screen for charging or so I think I would barely use it. But that's just me, maybe others think different about it.
It‘s ok to test plug-ins, if they are fuel efficient in hybrid mode. In contrast to many other plug-ins, Prius Plug-in and Ioniq Plug-in are efficient. You should make an exception for these two like you did for the BMW i8. If you don‘t want to burn gas you can drive them at least 50 km in ev mode, if you drive normal.
+Gerd Bremer BMW i8 was the first and last exception.
Imagine those hybrids, if you rip off ICE, transmission, exhaust system, all other shit, and put some batteries instead ( or make things smaller outside, bigger inside) if you can make hybrid ( esp plug in) make pure ev
Full EVs are expensive or rare and this will not change in the next 10 years. Currently only a few new battery factories are being build, nearly all of them in China for the Chinese market. A Prius plugin is a Prius with a bigger battery only. Both are complicated but there are millions of these cars running in the streets already without issues. In case of a dead battery, it‘s cheeper to replace a smaller one. It‘s better to reduce emissions with existing fuel efficient hybrids or plugins instead of rare or non-existing EVs.
It will be even slower, when the tools and hardware are loaded in the back.
This is a weird Renault. User interface is a combination of Fluence parts, Rlink touchscreen and that control panel (how are you even supposed to use navigation?), and only 7.2 kw charging instead of 22 or 44..
Why didn’t they have a bigger battery ? Hmmm
Looks like a lot of the interior came from a 2004 Renault Megane
I like it but not for me without rapid/fast charge
What u goin do to celebrate 100000 subs?
Hi is getting around 100 subscribers per day... i think in next 6,7 days he will have 100k 😀
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Chargeport is a biggest disapoint! Why not Mode3 (22kWh)?
+Иван Ушаков *kW
So award
:) Wow. This finnish guy has no life in him. Could be German
Amazing. Great video. Thanks Uncle björn.
Bjørn finds all the strange flaws.
I never thought I would say this but here we go: the Kangoo looks better though
Badly engineered?! I mean the rolling back part should not happen in 2018.
I still think that Renault are just.... bad cars. I used to be a huge fan but lately they are staying way behind what market and buyers want/ask from automakers.
I agree, i was even going to buy one but when i tried it I changed my mind right away...
The Zöe is well priced and seems well made for what it is.
Agreed...I'm driving this van at present...touch screen ya can't reach, electric window switches for your elbows and a dashboard you can use for nothing....renault style over function.
No acceleration? Maybe you are driving with the handbrake on? ...
Oké. But he is rather neutral wit his tests. However, this car is a work-car and nothing more. The faraway touch display is a joke.
+Walter Waes Ah, of course :P
This van needs improvement
8:44 We can.
0 to 100 kph in 20.3 seconds!!! According to the Renault website. Positively dangerous
Wow, really had to laugh at the diesel heater. WTF were they thinking? Who buys an EV today, but uses Diesel for his car heating?
Come visit us in Scandinavia when we get -15C or colder, and you need to drive a bit more than to the closest shop. I'm sure you'll love the webasto then.
@@therandomtester9561 well, while I understand the idea, I think this is just a stupid workaround, no solution. This way, you could just buy a Diesel with proper cleaning of the exhausts. Probably cleaner than this thing.
You have to concider that dieselcars here are fitted with the same webasto heater. In cold weather they too use the heater during driving, and in a lot of cases for pre-driving as well.
A webasto like this uses 0.5 l/h on full blast, that's about the same as a warm diesel-engine on idle. I'm pretty sure full blast is too much even in -30C. So anyway you decrease the consumption by far compared to a pure fossil (even without additional heater).
In -15/-20C it seems the range is about half of the summerrange in my Leaf. So in many cases a van like this would work great in summer, but not in winter. What do you choose, diesel all year round, or webasto for the coldest days?
Sure, a better "workaround" would be a bigger battery, but it is what it is, and that is 33 kWh, and that is not enough during winter for many people..
Бензин теперь не нужен мне,
Солярка не нужна.
Есть во дворе зарядный столб
И в сумке провода.
Пробег, конечно, не большой,
Но на день хватит мне,
На сэкономленный бюджет,
Айфон куплю жене.
Одним словом без Ренульки
Моя жизнь - говнулька :)))
43kw ac charging like zoe ?
7,4kW ac
Compliance car? Obviously no battery cooling. Perhaps useful as a postie van delivering letters.. and parcels.. but other than that.. a bit of a lemon.
0 to 100 in 22 is slower than basically everything on the road and will give people the impression that all EVs are slow.
I'm fairly sure it can charge on 43kw ac or at least some of them.
www.renault.ie/vehicles/new-vehicles/kangoo-ze/battery-and-charging.html
Minute 14:42 you can thank me later
Poor commercial for Kangoo ZE.
Lol!!! They are really funny at Renault. EV with diesel(!) heater. LMAO!!!
Why is that funny?
If you drive in Norway, Sweden, Finland etc, you quickly realize that the range around halves in -15/-20C. Burning a tiny bit of diesel to go the distance makes sence those days.
Dieselcars use webasto/eberspacher here as well..
If you are at that point, you can discuss, if a fossil car is not the better solution at all. but i think not. as you can see on bjorn's nimber trips. So my opinion: Either completely electro or not at all. That's like hybrid cars.
Completely electro of course would be the best. But, unfortunately we don't have big enough batteries for every need yet. Fitting a webasto will be of great help for many.
And, as I wrote to begin with, dieselcars have additional heater as well. So the coldest days the question will be diesel with dieselheater, or EV with dieselheater.. Easy choice if you ask me.
No, it's not like a (todays) hybrid, they only have 50km range at best pure EV. EV with webasto you CAN drive pure EV most days, only on longer trips in cold weather you'll need the heater.
Anyway a heater like this burns very little, 0,5 l/h on full blast, that's the same as a warm dieselengine on idle, surely a hybrid on idle won't get you far..
Many people can drive a "short-range" EV during spring, summer and autumn, but on colder days the range could be to short. When you choose a car, you'll choose one that suits all days. What do you do, drive a fossil all year round, buy an extra car for those few days, or drive EV and simply use the webasto the coldest days?
The postal office in the north of Norway tried EV's some time ago, not sure what kind. Anyways, they worked great in summer, but during winter (down to -30/-40C) they simply did not have the range. That was without Webasto. With the webasto they at least would stand a chance in the winter. I'm pretty sure the had to change cars so they drive pure diesel (with Webasto) all year round now..
Second...
Sound not too good on this one bjorn
Not as good as Krell or Meridian? :P
@@bjornnyland no, when you're talking to the dude about the van it sounds like the mic is in your pocket lol
Just watched it again, must have been a bug in my browser lol
4th...
First
Gd if your wearing a hat.
Buy the diesel, don't waste your money on an EV that will run out of range
No rapid charger option... Total fail and soo slow sorry Renault no thank you
Hahah what an awkard guy
he speaks finnish rally english
All Finnish people speak with strange accents when are talking English. I am more surprised when I hear Fins talking that they understand eachother...◄◄
That's a very shitty van. The touchscreen is so stupid in this van.
What an impractical car😂 Absolutely not ok for the price👎
I still think that Renault are just.... bad cars. I used to be a huge fan but lately they are staying way behind what market and buyers want/ask from automakers.
I really like the Twingo 2
@@finnlolig3089 it's fine for me of you are happy with it than it's great. I was just speaking my mind, comparing what a Renault gives and other automakers give there is a huge difference in term of equipment for same price or segment.
bosarama manufacturers go throught different stages. Generally in the 90s and 00s they made quite crappy cars overall if they were AWD, they save money on every single part you can't see. But nowadays i think they have improved quite a bit.