The Archetypes of Fighting
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- Why is it that certain fighters gravitate toward specific fighting styles? How should YOU chose your fighting style? The answers may lie within the psychological phenomenon of Archetypes.
Chapters
00:00 - [Intro]
00:57 - [What is an Archetype?]
02:27 - [The Trickster]
04:03 - [The Brawler]
05:42 - [The Technician]
07:08 - [The Artist]
08:24 - [The Bully]
10:01 - [The Warrior]
11:22 - [The Crusader]
13:18 - [The Monk]
14:35 - [Final Thoughts]
What is an Archetype?
The archetypes in this video are based on those presented by Carl Jung in his work: "The Archetypes of the Collective Unconscious." Jung described archetypes as images or themes (symbols) that derive from the collective unconscious and have universal meanings across cultures.
He likened archetypes to: instinctual patterns of behavior. Plato also described this phenomenon with his concept of the Idea: which was summarized in the Abstracts of the Collected Works of C.G. Jung as a "Primordial disposition that preforms and influences thoughts."
So in the context of fighting, an archetype is the manifestation of the all conscious and unconscious forces that guide a fighter, in and out of the ring. These forces include:
Their martial arts background and training styles.
Their personality and temperament.
Their purpose and values.
And literally any other subconscious motivation you can think of.
This video also introduces the eight different fighter archetypes from a philosophical perspective. Fighters in this video represent Muay Thai, Kickboxing, Mixed Martial Arts (MMA), Karate, Taekwondo, Judo, Sambo, and Boxing.
The Trickster - Saenchai, Lerdsila, Sean O'Malley, Michael Venom Page, Prince Naseem Hamed, Tyson Fury, etc.
The Brawler - Rodtang, Justin Gaethje, John Lineker, Michael Chandler, Roberto Duran, Joe Frazier, etc.
The Technician - Israel Adesanya, Giorgio Petrosyan, Alexander Volkanovski, Kamaru Usman, Islam Makhachev, Floyd Mayweather, etc.
The Artist - Yair Rodriguez, Lyoto Machida, Stephen "Wonderboy" Thompson, Dany Bill, Vasily Lomachenko, etc.
The Bully - Jon Jones, Colby Covington, Petr Yan, Conor McGregor, Mike Tyson, etc.
The Warrior - Forrest Griffin, Dustin Poirier, Daniel Cormier, Julio Cesar Chavez, Rocky Marciano, John Wayne Parr, etc.
The Crusader - Khabib Nurmagomedov, Muhammad Ali, Beneil Dariush, Yoel "The Soldier of God" Romero, etc.
The Monk - Jiri Prochazka, Zabit Magomedsharipov, Bruce Lee, Alex Caceres aka Bruce Leeroy, etc.
Which archetypes do you most closely relate with? What other fighters should I have included on these lists? Are there any other mma highlights, muay thai highlights, or boxing highlights that would have been a good fit? Is this video good training motivation? Let me know in the comments.
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Tricksters-to trick and showboat
Brawlers-to brawl and fight
Technicians-to win and master
Artists-to express and create
Bully-to hurt and antagonize
Warriors-to support and work hard
Crusaders-to answer and spread
Monks- to learn and grow
Goated with the sauce
@@Torpax_bullies are trash.
Tank- sturdy and one shot
@@saddoombringer2149 who?
then there’s Manny Pacquiao who’s like a Warrior, Crusader and Technician combined, a Paladin
It really is fascinating how your style chooses you and not the other way
Makes perfect sense actually you do what works and repeat it. Your body type determines what you're going to have natural advantage with. It's why tall skinny guys aren't wrestlers and short stocky guys aren't usually strikers. Obviously theres exceptions but even with the exceptions but most of the time the tall skinny guy is good at both not JUST wrestling. And the stocky guy will be well rounded as well.
That sounds so cool
@@ispartacus1337 great analysis my brother
This goes for everything homie. Your hobbies, and interests. Everything. You don’t choose what catches your attention. It chose you.
@@ispartacus1337that’s half of it, but it’s also your personality too. I’m a strong guy, but I still like to be measure about my approach to fighting.
These 8 types could be seperated into 4 duals, opposite yet remain in the same area:
Trickster vs brawler: the fight is inside the ring.
Technichian vs artist: the fight is in the head.
Bully vs warrior: the fight is in the heart.
Crusader vs monk: the fight is in the soul.
This is a great comment. Really dig this idea. That's how rivals are born. Somewhat the same but cannot come together.
Thats an interesting way to look at it.
@@TormalimaYin and yang ☯
cunning vs courage
planning vs inspiration
aggression vs resilience
higher power vs inner power
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This is Gold. As a jiu jitsu black belt, MMA fan and Carl Jung reader i really appreciate what you done here
Who give this guy black belt? - Islam Makhachev
I started out in BJJ as a brawler, but later became a technician. I think BJJ in principle wants everyone to become a technician.
Agreed! This is prime TH-cam
He didn't do it for YOU lmao
Israel Adesanya's style has changed over the years. From Trickster in his early kick-boxing days to an Artist in his early MMA days to a Technichian. I guess that's why he's called the stylebender.
True but I feel like getting the belt is what turned him into a technician from an artist
@@GoldenBoyDimsna I’d say the opposite he became a technician after he got the belt
And since technician is not working these days, I think with his spirituality and all he’ll transition into a Monk. We might see a monk adesanya for the next 5 to 10 years
Until he got “Bullied” out of MMA by Sean Strickland lol
@@DrakeBrunette he didn’t get bullied he’s just taking a break from bro was the most active champion the ufc had
The Bully -> Warrior -> Crusader sequence gave me absolute chills.
Love to hear it.
Same
Trickster is the best
Crusaders 😂
There are K1 fights crusaders
You forgot #9, the Freak/Natural. It’s those people born either with speed, quick reflexes, or insane strength and physique for no reason so they adopt a style around the niche trait. It usually makes their styles easier to overcome for those with more skill or refinement
Examples could, COULD include Sugar Ray Leonard (speed), Deontay Wilder (Strength) and more
@@jonathankigozi3373 why is it always black people that are called Freaks or Naturals? Sugar Ray Leonard was very very fast but he was also very very skilled and trained from a very young age. why discount all his effort and hard work?
@jonathankigozi3373 Roy Jones Jr is the most obvious example of this. He was so fast and powerful that he could defy convention and get away with it before age caught up to him.
Also guys like Yoel, Lesnar, Mike Tyson, and Naoya Inoue.
I COULD put most southpaws in this category. Because the majority of people throughout the world are right handed, simply being left handed has been known to throw off some opponents
Tony Ferguson!
I think it's very common for fighters to express elements of multiple of these archetypes. The same Ali who had an incredible belief in his cause, also acted as a trickster who taunted his opponents (still some of the best trash talk in combat sports!), and dazzled with technique, but later on relied on his sheer grit and determination to get him through his most famous victories.
Definitely. He even played the verbal bully at times to completely humiliate and psychologically breakdown his opponent. He had heart, he was quick, technical, creative and also a showman, that's why they called him the greatest.
As a person who's into philosophy and combat sports this is a gold mine. Great content.
facts they go hand and hand. surpised there isnt more content
Couldn’t have said it better, I’m 4 minutes in and my jaw is dropped at how brilliant this video is
Tik ase sati
Just look at Bruce lees life story. He was a philosophy major and most if not all self defence or martiL arts come down to the art of war, a balance of defence and offence. Wing chun fighting style is quite good at this, which is why it was part of the foundation of Bruce lees style.
The trickster: What they lack in physical strength, they make up for in presentation.
The brawler: The tank, what they lack in speed, they make up for with physical strength.
The tactician: What they lack in presentation, they make up for in intellect.
The artist: They specializes in using tactics most consider ineffective for surprising the enemy.
The bully: The villain, getting in people's heads psychologically and striking their enemies physically.
The warrior: Pure hearted to a fault. They are willing to work hard to make better lives for themselves.
The Crusader: They did not simply enter the ring, they were called to it by a higher power.
The monk: For them, fighting means personal growth. They don't care about money or spectacle, but instead an introspective sense of self.
Nice breakdown
You messed up the trickster and the artist
Crusader/Mujahideen
i dont entirely agree with how you described the brawler. what i got from the video was the brawler while yes is a tank was by no means slow but moreso would look to overwhelm whether it be a fast barrage or just 1-2 punches
The bully once are something else i was bullied in competition too, and i came out victorious i even reciprocate what they've done in more vicious way. I also have the habit to polished my vicious strikes but reserved i only use it if needed.
Wow this is some of the coolest fight related content ive ever seen. Love seeing people dive into the deeper nuances of fighting like this.
Adesanya definitely fits into the artist category. He is one of the most creative fighters out there.
used to be now his stylr objectively is more technical watch his recent fights esp the slower paced ones like against cannoneir, romero vettori leg kicks at range and lots of feints
As someone whose currently reading “modern man in search of a soul” by Jung and also trains MMA 4x a week, this video is a lovely mash up
Loved that book. My favorite of Jung's
@@ssoothowho the name with the Gracie, I tried to look him up
@@travisrose3147 Rickson Gracie
@@ssootho why include Dariush in the video? Is it because of your own views? Or your ignorance of the world and how much of a hypocritical cocksucker he is?
Practice semen retention while reading working exercising or training martial arts your focus is 100X more intense.
Duran was able to match any technician while having the energy of a ferocious brawler, which makes him an artist in my mind. Even his total disregard for his physical conditioning as soon as training camp was over seems artistic in temperament.
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That’s an interesting take. Who are some notable brawlers within boxing?
@Stephy-Buckets I would say Foreman definitely fits the brawler archetype, just look at his fight with Ron Lyle.
@@stephy-buckets5152Isaac "pitbull" cruz
@@stephy-buckets5152 When I think of brawlers I think of Arturo Gatti & Antonio Margartito.
I would add "The Struggler" or the ever-underdog. These fighters mostly be underestimated or at disadvantages in matches, but even then they still persevere with strong will & strong focus to keep on going. I would say recent Charles Olieveira is the a good example of this & I would like to say we are all have a glimpse of "the struggler" in us because it's a fundamental path to achieve our preferred way of life.
Stop messing it up. These are ancient archetypes no matter if you think it's incomplete
@@DragonZombie2000 What do you mean by ancient archetypes bruh? archetype is just as it is. Also, This list is literally just an modern inspired list supposedly based on Jungian psychology. It's a list from Carl Jung himself. It's not a problem at all to add more imo.
The actual Carl Jung archetypes are 12 different personas altogether.
John 3:16
Romans 10:9
John 3:3
Matthew 7:21
John 14:6
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@@DragonZombie2000you're like the male equivalent of an astrology girl
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Ive always like the Technician/Trickster archetype like Lomachenko the best. They are difficult to read but at the same time can read you like a book!
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I think there’s a difference between how you try and win, vs what your motivations are. I could see the monk having any style of artist, technician, brawler. Its the archetypes of motivation and the archetypes of style
Totally agree. It’s important to remember that humans are complex beings and don’t fit neatly in one box. When I think of myself based on the video I am a mix of Monk/Warrior/Brawler. My technique is very Brawler but my motivations to get to training and competing are Monk/Warrior/Brawler. I like that you pointed out the difference between motivations and style.
There's def a lot of overlap, they all end up learning from each other
'The true path of the monk is the journey inward.' What a deep piece of life advice. Awesome video.
This is amazing I’d love to see a video diving deep on the weaknesses and counters of each archetype, and how to use your archetype to defeat all other archetypes
This has been one of the best videos I've ever seen. Helpful in my fighting journey as it makes sense how my fighting style blended in my professional life as well.
Nothing more frustrating than having to do a re-edit. Keep up the good work, thanks for the great content!
What should my fighting style be? I took up wrestling as kid due to my stocky build and massive calves. I also played soccer for almost a decade so my stamina is amazing.
Now I’m older and I have slimmed down but still have my stocky build at 6’0. My fingers almost touch my kneecaps, so I may have a 70+ inch reach. I practiced boxing for a bit but my coaches always wanted me to get close so it never suited my body type.
@@olafharoldsonnii4713 do what makes you comfortable brother
@@olafharoldsonnii4713 bro whattttt you got the wingspan of a gorilla my brother.
The Bully and the Crusader archetypes gave me absolute chills.
Honest Abe has become a monk.
I think “Charles Oliveira” is a good example of “A Crusader”.
Feels like he’s gonna lose the fight but ends up winning and credits the Lord for his victory every time ✨
Combining Jung with UFC? This was beautiful to watch. Amazing job!
One of the most unique videos I've seen on the subject of fighting. Keep it up man, you're gonna make it big on youtube with such high quality videos 💪💪💪
Really appreciate the kind words. Part 2 is almost done so stay tuned
Would love to see where you would put Anderson in this list, he seems to straddle several archetypes. Can’t wait for pt 2
I would say the artist. So innovative and different
Artist and trickster maybe?
Same with guys like Mike Tyson.
Mike seems like a Bully, Trickster, Technician and Brawler.
@@jestfullgremblim8002 trully a gifted goat , but defenetly a bralwler lol
@@crisalcantara7671 i mean, he didn't tank attacks that often which is the main trait of a brawler (taking a shot to give a stronger one). Mike dodged a lot
As Junguian psychology student and mma amateur i loved this video, great work thank u ❤😊
What an awesome video. Thank you for taking the time to put this together.
This channel has completely captivated me. Martial arts is the only sport with which I truly connect, and it is the best place to physically explore philosophy because it is both fundamental to being human and incredibly personal to an individual. Before language, we could only express ourselves through gestures and movement, and fighting is one of the oldest forms of expression. You are caught between life and death while doing so. To fight is to be human; to fight is to be alive. No other sport can embody the human spirit or match the depths to which combat can transport you.
”Martial arts” is not ONE sport
Video got de-monetized by TH-cam at 275k views. Made some edits and re-uploaded to make sure it is compliant with their policy. I also added some additional clips as Easter Eggs for people who already watched the first one. They are a spoiler for some of the fighters that I will cover in more detail in Part 2. See if you can spot them. Appreciate everyone who watches, and especially those who like & comment again to help this video gain the momentum the other one had. Peace.
TH-cam’s new monetization process is completely flawed. I know so many creators saying they’re getting demonized for nothing every video
Thanks again for the effort, awesome job
I was trying to find It! Thanks for the great content🙏
big youtube L keep up the great work homie the vid is wicked
I'd like to talk about this theme on my instagram. Do I have your permission to use some pictures and examples of your video?
What an amazing idea for a video. I love the creativity and the references to philosophy. Overall, it felt really substantive and is a great addition to the already amazing fighting content on TH-cam. I hope that you keep going man!
Good job man
Brawler and trickster they are the ones that deliver the most entertainment
Loved this. Self awareness is key to improvement in the fighting arts, and this provides some great resources. I'll be sharing with my teammates
Loving how you’re describing this stuff, can’t wait for a part two
this video is so well made I end up coming back to it every few weeks.
Absolutely STELLAR Video 🤩
Mixing in Philosophy and Fighting so UNIQUE so well put Together!
I love this video and integrating Jungian archetypes into fighting is something I never thought to do. All fighters have a little bit of each of these archetypes inside them, especially the warrior archetype.
Just wanted to say I love this video and watched it multiple times already.
Also Evander Holyfield not being mentioned in the warrior category is a crime lol.
Keep up the good work.
Holyfield is a good call!
Also Tony Ferguson as a Monk-type
@@tramenari i think he also fits the bully archetype.
No one embodied the warrior boxer in the last 20 years than Pacquiao. Dirt poor, sleeping in cardboard boxes, fought his way to 8 belts in 8 weight classes and at 40+ yo, beat the bully to become the oldest champion in the weightclass with the most p4p boxers.
The martial art you're trained in really does affect your archetype. I've always thought of myself as an artists getting into martial arts looking up unique techniques and previous disciplines I know. However learning Judo as my first martial art, a very strict and methodical sport grounded me to lean into becoming more of a technician. I really wish to train with martial arts. It's such a different experience and unique way of self improvement in many ways. It's also such a unique type of communication between fighters. Cheers everyone
This is one my favourite videos on all of youtube. Keep up the good work bro.
I personally feel like a brawler because I fight for the shake of fighting and I especially love the intense moments inside a fight where you take a lot of damage but also inflict a lot of damage very quickly at the same time. Although I tend to play more like a technician (especially against better opponents) unless I’m against a bully where emotions kick in and I fight like a brawler. Also I sometimes fantasise about myself as an artist just because it looks cool.
I definitely feel the warrior/brawler/monk archetype. I've only just started sparring, so let's see what comes out more! Excellent video.
You are the Spastic Archetype
The autistic type
I think the last 4 archetype are more of a personality while the rest are fighting style. Because if we look at Ali his fighting style is a tactician but his personality is a crusader, Tyson is a bully-brawler, Hamed is a crusader-trickster, etc.
I liked this. You did a really thorough, thoughtful and informative analysis. You should be proud of this. A+
Bonus points for using the term pageantry in a fight-sports video. You’re the man, Schyler! Great work!
This is pure art. You helped me on continuing the journey, thank you very much. Cheers to you!
Such an interesting video! I was always the scrawny kid who thought fighting was silly and for meatheads who couldn't control their emotions, and instead focused on my intelligence and growing it.
Now I'm 22 and in the past year have really started hitting the gym and focused on seeing what I am capable of. Our bodies are immediate reflections of who we think we are, in how we treat ourselves. They are usually the first contact others have of who we are as well. Being able to learn how to fight and how to defend yourself isn't about recklessly letting off steam, it's about helping yourself fight for the things you feel are important in your life. The reasons why you continue to do what you do. To face down fear and move forward is what makes us alive!
Thank you for the video, I hadn't considered the different archetypes before, and it makes me want to start sparring, and learning more about the archetypes! :)
Jon is by far my favorite bully. Hes smart and technical and utterly ruthless.
I have been struggling to get back into the gym but after watching this I feel reinvigorated! Cant wait to start the journey to finding my archetype
A Technician + bully hybrid is a force to be reckoned with
Jon Jones
@@ssoothoyes exactly.
A monk + Technician is also a very potent force.
@@aYMKRDVC zabit
A bully who is also a brawler and a warrior is probably the most dangerous. Cause it means they also have heart and toughness and are willing to walk through your shots to serve up a dish of pain with all types of malicious intent.
Thank you brother for sharing this knowledge, I’m currently actively training in boxing 🥊 and understanding this beautiful sport. Much respect to you and your journey in finding yourself.
Wow dude, banger of a video. Makes a lot of sense. I love the psychology imput on fighting.
Excellent commentary and footage! This was such a treat to watch! I probably resonate most closely with the Monk archetype but i used to spar with plenty of tricksters! Those guys will really test your patience. Subscribed!
Of course nobody is fully only one archetype, i would say some have almost all of them. Like a Jon jones who is a bully. He also is an artist especially early in his career, where he pulled out the most unorthodox moves and popularized the Oblique kick etc. He also is a tactician as he studies his opponents and himself, sometimes he figures out the puzzle mid fight. Etc. Of course some of these archetype say a lot about their style and others focus more of that purpose and mindset behind it.
Phenomenal video and excellent examples. The technician, artist and the monk most exemplify my traits.
This was a really enjoyable watch, first I’ve seen of yours but it was great!
I think the prime example of the "warrior" archetype in MMA is Glover Teixeira, specially after his retirement fight
It's crazy how Jon Jones could be classified as so many different archetypes
The goat is a brawler, technician, bully and trickster all at once, n that’s minimum😂
@@losertrap1031 when did he brawl?
@@softwareshiethe landed almost 200 significant strikes on prime glover
This was a great video! Ever since starting Muay Thai and BJJ, I definitely have seen it as a journey of self-discovery and growth so like you I think relate most to the Monk archetype!
Really love the descriptions of archetypes. Don't always agree who u categorized in each group... but they were great
I'm a little shocked that you didn't point out Marvin Hagler and Robbie Lawler as warriors or Raymond Daniels as an artist. Also I'd like to offer that the artist cannot be an artist without also being a technician.
I wish you a fortunous growth, you deserve it, keep up the good and ORIGINAL work, you're the first I see going into this topic and I really like it
Appreciate the positive comment! Means a lot
What a good watch. Thank you for this entertaining and informative video!
Man, this was surprisingly good and nuanced! Subscribed!
I’m telling you the Crusader is the most OP. I’d you have God no one can stop you
Agreed.
Pretty interesting analysis, mate. I would add that imo there are very few fighters that represent a clear type archetype. As with the character of a person that constantly modifies itself based on various experiences, fighters may fall to a dominant type of archetype category but include the aspects of others in their style as well.
what a high quality video! I expected some nonsense without any description why and so on, but really good work!
This is actually pretty comprehensive and intelligent
I think that an archetype that is not covered here but one that I have seen often is what I would call "The Sportsman"
The sportsman is the type of fighter that will always fight fair and respectfully, never hit an opponent when they're down. He won't trash talk, he'll offer a fist bump before the fight, and a bro hug afterwards regardless of whether he won or lost. The Sportsman does not see the fight as a clash, he sees it as a bonding experience between two people doing what they enjoy most.
Stephen Thompson
That's the warrior, kind of. The opposite of the Bully, who fights dirty and is generally disrespectful.
Goku?
I think it can be either technician or warrior. Or combination of both.
Excellent point.
I might be a brawler-sporstman XD
I actually found it really cool how much these archetypes hit the nail on the head. Was curious what would fit me but as soon as you said brawler I knew. I'm a dude that prides myself on durability, I really don't mind trading hits. Legit the people I look up to most are people tony Ferguson that just never quit, and lethwei fighters.
Funny thing is I've always tended to gravitate to grappling sports. Like I love shadowboxing, working the heavybag bare knuckle, and hardening my knuckles, but my whole life I just end up grappling. Wrestled most of my childhood and have gotten into amateur sumo in the past couple years. Grappling just comes naturally to me for some reason. Like my striking game is good, my sparring partners always tell me to try and strike more because of how much force there is to my hits, I just end up defaulting to picking people up.
Great approach where he's sharing very useful knowledge about the world (as in the concept of an archetype and what it suggests about some commonalities shared the world over) and seeing how it applies to one of our favorite sports
I really appreciate the one who did the writing part for this video. Not even for one second did my eyes move away from the screen.
I think it’d be really cool if you made a video about which archetypes work best and worst against each other
bully vs warrior is just a main character vs the villain really. kind of awesome.
trickster vs brawler
Back when I was competing in BJJ, I was absolutely the technician. I would work with my eyes closed because I learned how to feel where my opponent’s body weight was going. I’d be in guard for minutes until I felt a slip up on there end and capitalize. My old coach and my dad would probably disagree and say I was closer to the artist, I had some flashy moves (nailed a flying triangle in a tournament and ended up rolling through to a mount triangle) but I rarely used them, I preferred to pull guard and use my signature triangle choke.
Absolutely amazing video have always wanted a video on fighter archetypes especially based on mma fighters boxers being in is also great. I have not been able to find a vidoe on archetypes that is what I’m actually looking for being attached to some sort of philosophy and having this level of quality and attention put into the video. Great job 👍 👏
I really enjoyed watching this, thanks for sharing!
Such an excellent video!!! Im writing a book about creativity, this is a video i will re-watch and study. You tapped into something deeper here.
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This is a great video, thank you for making it!! You’re clearly a big fight fan and I appreciate the time and thought you put into this. I think archetypes are really interesting both in fighting and beyond it, and you gave great examples and clips to support your ideas
Thank you so much. Appreciate the positive comment
What should my fighting style be? I took up wrestling as kid due to my stocky build and massive calves. I also played soccer for almost a decade so my stamina is amazing.
Now I’m older and I have slimmed down but still have my stocky build at 6’0. My fingers almost touch my kneecaps, so I may have a 70+ inch reach. I practiced boxing for a bit but my coaches always wanted me to get close so it never suited my body type.
@@olafharoldsonnii4713 sounds similar to Volkanovski (technician) or John Lineker (Brawler). Just start training your ass off and see what feels right to you.
Loved the video, greatly done
When is the next video coming up? Eagerly awaiting it! Loved this one. Keep up the terrific job.
I’m definitely more aligned with the monk archetype. I train martial arts, but I rarely compete. The accolades and prizes just don’t interest me, though they would be nice to have. My main goal is to work towards a better version of myself.
100% feel the same way. Learning martial arts really is a spiritual journey inward. After i stopped training, it still affects my whole life and my attitude on things. It never truly leaves you.
Tournaments are cool, I’ve done a few, but i mostly go to support my friends and build new relationships. Its just a fun environment to be in, but I don’t take the winning & losing too seriously (but thats just me)
I consider myself both the trickster and the technician. I started my martial arts journey with armored combat in the Society for Creative Anachronism and rely on feigning and being unpredictable to land hits. But I also focus on finding weaknesses in my opponents' guard and technique and keep notes of what I did wrong in a sparring match.
I want to be a trickster or technician, but my build makes me a brawler.
I want to be a brawler or a bully but just am a "trickster", can't stop having fun @@necromancer6405
also I believe these video-game like classes don't mean much during a fight
@@user-ke4oz9rz8x It means quite a bit and I don't get why you instantly go to video games just by the name. It's their style and methods, not their class.
@@necromancer6405 in two months I changed my mind. This video is actually pretty good
Really well done video man. Thanks
I think there should be another Archetype called "The Beast" with examples being Tony Fergusson, Khamzat Chimaev, Mike Tyson etc. The Beast Archetype is usually born into a very harsh world and he/she reflects that upbringing in the cage with a vicious and animal-like bloodthirst in their behaviour like when Khamzat Chimaev screamed "Kill everyone!" and then proceeded to roar.
I would say “The Beast” is a subsection of “The Bully” not enough difference to be another archetype
@@jfc6718 Not necessarily. They're not trying to bully or get a pschycological advantage or anything, they just crave for blood.
Khamzat is a bully/brawler type. Tony is an artist/brawler.
@@janugur2241 I think this type of fighter is the most dangerous of them all, fighters that grew up in harsh environments and had to overcome brutal hardships mentally and physically are always fucking monsters
i think they're born out of desperation, like Jack Dempsey, it's either they earn money from the ring or starve to death
I’m definitely more of a technician. But lately with my interests in pursuing inner goals, I’m becoming more of a monk. I’m constantly studying my videos of boxing sparring to improve myself since I’m mostly self taught, but then there’s my kenjutsu that I’m also trying to perfect. There’s many styles to fighting but finding your own personal style is the most meaningful.
Try some kyokushin karate , you'll love it ,
Fascinating! You just earned another subscriber brother. ❤️
Really impressed with the Jungian approach you took. It all rings true; fighting style is a reflection of our individual psyches. Cool video
Can't believe Don Frye didn't make it on to the brawler list. The man is legendary.
him and robbie lawler
I would also add that archetypes can be divided in different ways. As for the warrior it fits the in my opinion bigger archetype which is archetype of the hero, that would be a well rounded well ballanced fighter and that ballance is a type of a person who is more like a perfect human (he doesn't have any big flaws), in terms of body type and skills and also mentality. In popculter there is all sorts of hero archetypes, those persons are for example fit and smart (it's well roundedness) also in games, books, in Zelda the Triforce indicates that there is a ballance to a hero. Sorry for the bad english
Fascinating video! You earned a sub today mate. Hoping to see more from you soon!
This video is really good man. I hope you blow up for all your hard work. I've been working toward my goal of moving to Thailand and learn Muay Thai for a few years. These are some the videos that help me visualize what that would be like :)
I agree completely. I came to the same conclusion through my 26 year martial arts journey. I personally am a combination of the tactician, artist, and monk (I literally spent a year as a monk in a temple).
This is a very interesting take. But I would say that these Archetypes also intersect. And many fighters exist in the intersectionality of the archetypes
This is a very thoughtful video. Thank you very much.
Beautiful analysis. Thank you very much ❤️❤️✨✨
Too much confusion of fighting styles with personality types. For instance in fighting style, you would be hard-pushed to find a worse bully than Khabib. Entertaining, nevertheless.
Perhaps I was always under the monk archetype, but technician also applies. In kendo, there is a difference between sparring (keiko) and competing (shiai), and though it's the same martial art, everyone is willing to sacrifice what makes us a traditional martial art to score a victory (dirty tricks), and after my fair amount of tournaments (which I lost) and joint excercises with other dojos, I lost interest in competing, as everything I saw was bullies and tricksters overwriting their styles into competitive fighting just to win every single sparring match. Our dojo has the honor of always sending prepared people to seminars with japanese teachers, and most of the time we are the only ones not being corrected in the basics.
I need to train harder and polish my techniques, so maybe one day the basics will be fast and precise enough to overcome all the dirty tricks from the other dojos, and show them that what they rejected is as useful if not better.
I feel completely in touch with these 3:
- The Artist
- The Warrior
- The Crusader
Fighters in Dungeons and dragons when they hit level 3:
Just found ur channel, incredible work. I think u should include the cold/stoic archetype like fedor, cro cop and alex poatan( wich u should do one video study on him).
Agreed. Pereia will definetly fit into the stoic category