Honestly, I subscribe to the fan theory that George McFly DID know Marty "Calvin" was his son. As a big SciFi buff who writes stories himself, time travel is not a foreign idea to him, Marty constantly refers to him as "dad", starts following him around trying to get him together with Lorraine. Not to mention at the end when Marty starts to fade out, George is looking at him, turns around and gets the girl. Not even going to get into the whole book title he writes.
George is looking at Marty when he's fading away? I thought George was headed to the exit before turning around. Simpler outlook: why do people even question the average human memory for faces? Marty says his goodbyes after a week without ever having even gotten his picture taken. Twelve years elapse before he's even born. Super recognizers can match adults with their baby pictures, but I hazard most people can't. So, if ANY of the Hill Valley folks remember Marty well enough to work with a sketch artist on him, they need to hold onto that memory for anywhere from 1 TO 17 MORE years before they have a chance to notice him. Now, I recognize that Occam's Razor, ironically perhaps, is an inexact tool (or someone please walk me through it if it is). But isn't average forgetfulness easier to accept than George being secretly savvy about the whole thing?
@@alm2187 exactly, it always befuddles me how people prefer to make themselves believe convoluted bullcrap instead of following the simpler explanation which makes more sense. After all it's all fanfiction nonsense after Bob Zemeckis and Bob Gale have made clear their ideas and intentions since the very beginning.
With Titanic, as much as James Cameron has a reputation for being a massive a-hole perfectionist, you do have to take into account reasonable expectations. Just because something is technically possible doesn't mean it's plausible, let alone reasonable. They _could_ have made it work, but it would have required a degree of foreknowledge, critical (and quick) thinking skills, and time. Neither Jack or Rose probably knew much about the mechanics of buoyancy beyond 'certain shapes and materials can float and others sink', both were in a very life threatening situation (as evidenced by Jack freezing to death in a short period of time, and Rose barely surviving as it was), and they both had the dexterity and strength of toddlers by the time she was stable on the door. Also, even if it could increase buoyancy I wonder if they would still have been partially submerged. To say nothing of the extra time and additional exposure needed to make this hypothetical plan work could have doomed them both anyway.
I agree with James Cameron. It was never a plot hole. The film actually show Jack flipping the door as he tired to get on it and how on earth would a guy who had just survived a sinking ship and is now in freezing water think of anything other than "holy shit, shit, shit"
I agree with the Mythbusters, Jack could've fit on the door, with Rose, and survived. Not to mention that Jack only knew Rose for a few days and banged her like once, just kick Rose off the door, say she drowned in the ship and make sure to keep the necklace to pawn in America when Jack gets rescued. Lol
Also consider that a lot of times, extractions are done on the fly and in the case of an emergency. And it’s usually in response of agent activity. Cypher, however, was going to meet an agent, therefore he was in no danger. Therefore he could set up an automated, timed extraction because he was in no rush or danger.
@@Rattwap this was my thought. You can write a program to create a specific exit at a specific time easily because it's all code. It's only a problem if you need to create an unpredicted exit.
Monsters University - It's always encouraging when a filmmaker says "I don't care if this contradicts previous movies in the franchise, I'm going to do whatever the hell I want to do with the story." The Bifrost - I just assumed that the Asgardians rebuilt it. After all, they were probably the ones who built it in the first place, so why couldn't they repair and rebuild it?
It changes the dynamics of M:U though. Overall just passing it off to a turn a phrase I think is reasonable because there exists such a thing already in regular culture. While not specifically that, but there's been plenty of times I've heard phrases referring to the past which don't actually match with what the reality is
@notspm9157 yeah your right it changes it to what it should have been based on the previous movie already having the line in it , also if it's a popular phrase in the monster vernacular why didn't we hear it anywhere else ? It's a dumb explanation for a small plot hole that could have been ignored for story purposes and never addressed, don't get me wrong I love both movies I just don't think it's a very good answer to the plot hole
@@tommystrickland6268 It's an explanation because people like nit-picking. They don't have to go and make the line appear in every subsequent dialogue piece, they can just say it's a phrase and leave it at that. Never said it's a popular phrase, but even if it was there wouldn't have been dialogue in the movie where it would also have been used elsewhere, so it's not really a dumb explanation and it's one they came up with because even though it's a small plot hole they clearly gave a bit of thought to the line before hand
@notspm9157 ya none of that really matters too much here if you disagree that's perfectly fine I feel like it was dumb because again they could have just ignored it and not addressed it at all sure people would have questioned it but why make up an on the fly answer for something that at the end of the day wasnt goingvto matter to the core audience of the film , children .
Random funny thing (obviously, it's hindsight on a movie 40 years ago.) I always thought a good note would be Johnny B. Goode sounded different in 85' because he heard Marty play the original.
I mean, if it was the dude that literally got you and your spouse together, you'd surely remember, no? Or would you just never ever think about your and your partner getting together
@@Unknown_Pie The "Infidelity" theory would require Lorraine to have been pregnant for about 14 years... (and also somehow giving first birth to Marty's elder brother and sister in the process...)
In Star Trek, Nero was targeting Spock. It took Spock 25 years to come through the time portal. He only went after The Federation when they got involved by trying to stop him. Pretty simple, people...pretty simple.
Yeah I never understood why people had an issue with that. Then I watched this video, then I read the comments. People live such dull lives, they have to rip apart others accomplishments, to make them feel they also accomplished something. It’s quite pathetic.
The T Rex escaped from the hold, killed all the crew, then got back in the hold and closed the hatch after it. As you would (unless you had really small arms...).
It's not a plot hole in Back to the Future. Memory is very unreliable especially on a longer time line and they only knew him for 1 week. Do you remember everyone you interact with after 30 years?
I think I would remember the person that got myself and my future spouse together. Anytime you recount the story of how you met. Especially Lorraine having him stay in her room unless she had SO many guys in her room she took care of.
I would remember all these big events happening in those days. I’m 50 and still remember faces and events that happened in the past. Especially ppl who I knew face to face.
Also, even if they remembered and thought he looked like the guy that got them together, maybe they mentioned it jn his childhood and it doesn't need to be brought up in the movie plot.
They also spent years watching Marty growing up. One of the weird things about kids aging is you don't really notice it day to day, only when looking at comparative pictures from years apart. Completely reasonable that I would never click with them when they've watched him age over time.
One massive plot hole I have almost never seen any video address is Die Hard 2 how the ground had absolutely no way to contact the circling airplanes yet a dang reporter on one plane just used a phone to keep in constant contact with his studio, I mean even that reporter didn't try to save his own plane he would rather just "get the story".
Jack DID try to get on the door &, like they said, it began to topple over. Also, I'd imagine being in that frigid water that he wouldn't have the strength to try too many times.
So 7 and 8 have the same solution. BttF: sorry, OBVIOUS that you don't get to know a guy a week, then recognize his face 12 to 30 years later. MU: for inferred retcon, how about if the two monsters meet at University, then between movies realize they'd met when they were 9?
They could’ve easily made it work for MU, I just don’t think they needed to. It’s a kids movie and it was adults annoyed by it. It said it all. Adults took a child’s movie far too seriously. I’d have been embarrassed to be them. 🤷♀️
Annoyance is a separate subject,@@kirstybrown1185 Observing story inconsistencies is an analytical process. Feelings are what follow. Take any two people who might have spotted this little anomaly. One is annoyed? One is embarrassed? What's their common ground? They both noticed! That's a good starting point to recognizing that fiction doesn't matter much. Perhaps then the one person gets past her/his/their anger. Perhaps the other ceases to be embarrassed. Otoh, education and entertainment are the same thing. Noticing when story points are and aren't essentially consistent? That's good exercise for empirical and rational thought processes. Most kids didn't notice this inconsistency in the Pixar films? Perfectly understandable. Some kids did? Good for them! Might be one small sign those particular kids are detail-oriented. 😎 Kids who noticed were or weren't annoyed, or embarrassed, or of some other emotional outlook over it? Address on a case-by-case basis, natch.
Annoyance is a separate subject, @@kirstybrown1185 Observing story inconsistencies is an analytical process. Feelings are what follow. Take any two people who might have spotted this little anomaly. One is annoyed? One is embarrassed? What's their common ground? They both noticed! That's a good starting point to recognizing that fiction doesn't matter much. Perhaps then the one person gets past her/his/their anger. Perhaps the other ceases to be embarrassed. Otoh, education and entertainment are the same thing. Noticing when story points are and aren't essentially consistent? That's good exercise for empirical and rational thought processes. Most kids didn't notice this inconsistency in the Pixar films? Perfectly understandable. Some kids did? Good for them! Might be one small sign those particular kids are detail-oriented. 😎 Kids who noticed were or weren't annoyed, or embarrassed, or of some other emotional outlook over it? Address on a case-by-case basis, natch.
Among numerous inconsistencies in Abrams/Kurtzman Trek, one more open question springs to mind. When someone like Nero offends Klingons, why don't they execute him? Why waste resources on his prison comforts for decades? Honor? Treaties?
Well Nero's ship was from the future so the Klingons probably kept him alive in the hopes of gaining knowledge of his ship and how things worked from him. Plus if they confirm, from his ship's computer, it is from the future then they'd at least keep him alive for his knowledge of future events.
Honestly, the filmmaker saying "we did this so the movie can happen" like in the case of Inside Out, isn't really "solving" a plot hole. It's merely acknowledging that the plot hole is there and saying they didn't care.
Every plot hole can be explained by a character's motivation. If it isn't explained, the author didn't think about it enough. That said, none of us can see every option available to us.
Cipher inventing something is confusing for you? They say they need an operator because THEY need one. We needed operators in the beginning of telephone use until we didn't. He was working for the machines so he also might have gotten some sort of information only they knew about. I imagine the machines could kick someone out of the program if they wanted to.
The back to the future one bothers me, marty had such an impact on both his parents lives that I doubt you would ever forget that person, even if it's only for a week. Anytime the parents recount how they got together, how biff used to beat george up until someone came into their life. Also did Lorraine have so many guys in her bedroom she "took care of" that she forgot? Also i would remember the person my dad hit with a car in front of my house.
Yes Lorraine did have at least a few guys in her bedroom, I forget who says it, but when Lorraine's dad hits Marty with his car they said "Dad hit another one", so guys peeping on Lorraine from the tree seems to have been a thing lol
They didn't forget him, they merely forgot what he really looked like. They may also have believed that the person who got them together was the one and only Calvin Klein, the fashion designer; and clearly, that fashiion designer is not their son. Moreover, why would they suspect that time travel/a time machine was into play?
Forgetting the person, and forgetting the face of a person you knew for 8 days is different though. They wouldn’t recognise him, but I doubt they just remember him because of the name either. 🤷♀️
Respectfully disagree about Looper. It is *not* a good film, and has inherent plot problems stuck right in the core foundation of the script… which is typical Rian Johnson “writing”.
5: Not a plot hole, just a different interpretation of time travel. It used an unclosed loop version of time travel, where you could go back in time and change it, instead of the far more realistic closed loop time travel, where you can go back but you can not change the past because anything you do you already did, and therefore nothing can change.
People who thought they understood a theoretical thing, pushed it as a plot hole. It was absolutely considered a plot hole by viewers. Like you say though, it’s interpretations of it. Until time travel happens, it’s not an actual plot hole. People are weird about things they want people to think they understand. 🤭
"Calvin" not being recognized by his parents 20-30 years later isn't a plot hole. It's simple logic and psychology. We don't anticipate the extraordinary, particularly when you pair it with the impossible. It's how Rainn Wilson can go completely unrecognized on a flight as the dude sitting next to him watches back-to-back episodes of "The Office" for 5 hours straight.
Looper's plot hole sounds exactly like Terminator 2's. If Sarah stopped the creation of Skynet, Kyle Reese didn't need to be sent back to save her from the terminator and John was never born, so there was no reason for her to blow up Cyberdine Systems headquarters. As Miles O'Brien said, I hate temporal mechanics!
The biggest plothole in "Back to the Future" is that Marty McFly changes his parents' history, and yet somehow he and his two siblings still exist exactly as they were before, genetically speaking anyway. By causing his Dad to be much more assertive in his adult life and less of a pushover, the events of his parents' lives post high school would turn out very differently than in the original timeline. Therefore there is virtually no chance whatsoever that his parents would still have had sex at the exact three points in time that each of their children were conceived originally. And even if they did, the odds of the same three eggs being fertilized by the same three sperm cells as before are astronomically slim at best.
Number 2. Perhaps the operator is only really needed to monitor the changes in the matrix and act as a guide if things goes sideways. Since Cypher doesn't need to fear or evade the agents, so maybe he wouldn't need an operator and the code should be good enough.
It's logistical, though. Maybe having all your limbs buckled to the chair is optional. Pretty awkward, though, to jack your cable into the back of your own head.
@8:52 Honestly, I wouldn't even consider it a plot hole. I would just assume Operators weren't "necessary" but very valuable and recommended assistance and support for forays into the Matrix. They prove their value time and again, so it isn't like one needs them to be necessary for the actual entry/exit process.
While the part about the Romulans imprisoning Nero was cut, Star Trek shows that Nemoy Spock arrived decades later than Nero, and from there it should have been obvious that Nero was waiting for him to show up so that the guy he's actually mad at has to witness his revenge. Also pretty sure we saw the Bifrost begin to regenerate at the end of Thor, the question was more about how long it would take.
Doc Browns parallel universe explanation in part two dumbs down the paradox issue. It works I guess. There’s something to be said about the butterfly effect though.
Looper plot hole... when the younger mam shoots himself, the woman walks away with the gold from the future. But shooting himself cancels out everything that happened, including the gold from the future.
Even if she did the business with him, it was such a long time ago, for I doubt she would remember what he looked like. I can't even remember what the girl who took my virginity looked like, and that's meant to be a huge moment in a person's life.
Inside out is also dealing with the emotions of a child. So they likely didn’t think of it for the same reason the kids watching the movie didn’t catch on.
4: Not a plot hole, they state in the movie that he was waiting for Spock and he didn't have a weapon strong enough to get his revenge till he got Spock and thus the weapon. If he would have attack the main fleet when he first arrived he would have been destroyed. The 25 years gave him the time he needed to turn his ship into a battleship capable of taking on an army, and to obtain a planet killer weapon.
In Back to the Future 3, 1885 containing two Deloreans yet neither the Doc or Marty ever mention it or check it for Gas. Seemed like a plot hole to me.
If they had done so, it would have created a cosmic conflict (or plot hole), because the other DeLorean is meant for Marty to find it in 1955 and travel back to 1985, as Doc had written in his letter to Marty (the letter than Marty receives in the rain, at the end of BttF2 ).
@@paulrasmussen8953 You might be right on that, But it still seems odd that neither the Doc or Marty ever mention it. Am guessing the writer wanted us to ignore the second car and focus on the train story line.
Thought I'd look through the comments on the BTTF mention here before disclosing something. really, I'd rather not debate it, but speak on behalf of Zemeckis and Gale that there's a very brief part of the script at the end of the film in 1985 that George actually did remember Marty from 1955 and the dialogue was used to have George thank Marty for the encouragement.
Why no mention of the massive plot holes in Terminator 2? To start with, Sarah only survived being terminated in the first film because her name was third in the list of Sarah Connors in the phone book, and the terminator had nothing to go on apart from her name and the city she lived in. As Reese says, "most of the records were lost in the war, that terminator was just being systematic". So how the frack did the terminator in the second film have full files on Miles Dyson? How did Skynet manage to send back another terminator when the time displacement machine was destroyed after Reese was sent back? Even if Skynet WAS able to send back another terminator, why not send it back to when Sarah was a child? Why not send back an army of terminators of advanced design? The beauty of The Terminator was how it hung together logically, all the sequels made no sense at all.
The Inside Out plot hole is easy. It's a well established fact that emotions suck at thinking through things logically. The emotions got emotional and completely missed an obvious solution.
Back to the Future is such a non-plot hole, just as Lord of the Rings fly-to-Mordor-trope. The question isn’t how to fix it but which one of the many plausible in-universe explanations to pick.
The Back to the Future excuse doesn't make sense. If Marty (Calvin Klein) was just some random kid in their HS sure they wouldn't remember him. The problem is, he is responsible for getting them together. They would absolutely remember the guy who worked so hard to get them together.
In Lorraine's eyes Biff is responsible for getting them together. Lorraine only gives George a second look after the incident with Biff. George could potentially make the connection, but he only talks to Lorraine because a visitor from outer space told him to. I think that has a bigger imprinting impact and Marty is just some guy that gives him tips on how to do what the alien said.
They would remember everything he did for them. Facial memory is far less likely, and there's no picture. 12 years elapse before Marty's born. Even if I'm right in front of you, could you pick me out of a lineup of baby pictures? 17 MORE years pass before he's the age they knew him. There's certainly a chance they'd notice the resemblance, but it's not that high.
For Lorraine, Calvin Klein is just some guy she fancied at school. Can you remember the exact facial features of every person you had a crush on for a week?
I've been out of high school for nearly 30 years now and I promise you that this isn't a plot hole. I wouldn't recognize most of the people I had classes with for all 4 of those years let alone someone I only knew for a couple weeks back then.
Marty played a major role in their lives in those 8 days! There’s major life events associated with his face, they would remember his face, after all they were children and their brains were still developing. It’s not until our brains are fully developed that faces no longer become the focus to our development and survival. That’s a filmmaker hand waving a n explanation to people who know more about childhood brain development and he does apparently!😂😂 does he have children?! I can still remember the face of the kid who ate dinner with us on a camping trip when I was 12! Why? He ate fish for the first time shocking his parents and loved it so much he had 2 more helpings!
If I were George, after I saw how "my" son Marty was beginning to look, I'd have been quite suspicious that my wife and Calvin Kline had a little "secret meeting."
Ultimately, I think the Back to the Future thing gets a pass because for every person like yourself who can easily remember faces, there's an individual like me who can't.
They would remember everything he did for them. Facial memory is far less likely, and there's no picture. 12 years elapse before Marty's born. Even if I'm right in front of you, could you pick me out of a lineup of baby pictures? 17 MORE years pass before he's the age they knew him. There's certainly a chance they'd notice the resemblance, but it's not that high. To address your case, remembering the milestone meal; the kid's first seafood, we'd need more frame of reference for if your facial memory is or isn't above average.
George and Loraine spent 1 week with Marty. Their son was born years later. He wouldn’t start to resemble the Marty they met for years after that. It’s not a plot hole.
But for Pete's sake! Why on Earth would George and Lorraine McFly notice that, during a period of SEVENTEEN YEARS, their youngest son grew up to resemble a guy they spent less than ONE WEEK with THIRTY YEARS earlier, and who didn't leave as much as a photograph behind? It would have been far more improbable if they had! Seriously, how can so many people ask that same, so obviously completely stupid question?
Because he is responsible for getting them together. Why is everyone acting like he was some random kid? He wasn't, he had some major moments with both. He actually followed George around for a week and Lorraine had a crush on him. Her dad hit him with his car. Most people would remember that
@@kerrysater157Calvin Klein became a famous fashion designer in the 1970s and 1980s. The face of the real Calvin Klein may have supplanted that of the guy in their memories, whom they met only for a week, 30 years ago.
Going down? You can plainly see you won't fit through a garbage or laundry chute. Going up? You'd see that a dumbwaiter looks risky, if not physically impossible for people to ride. I realize Sadness and Joy are personified entities, not people per se, but why doesn't same logic apply? Why do audiences think these personifications can take an avenue intended for cargo?
The Looper thing won't fly, because if it is alternate time lines then Joe is not killing the future self that is right in front of him and thus won't change anything in that reality by killing himself. It is not a good film, it is a cluster of bad decisions.
The door "plot hole" is simply solved by understanding that "Jack" is simply an imaginary person that Rose made up, either intentionally or unintentionally.
In Inside Out, they don't really fully explain the memory recall in detail. As in, whether Joy and Sadness could actually use them to quickly get back to HQ or not, plus it's unknown what would happen if you were to try to grab a replaying memory once it arrived through the recall device. Think about it. Dementia is the **IN**ability to remember/**RECALL** something, one side of that coin sure, memories of various importance do wind fading away with age, but what about dementia and other memory problem issues that aren't specifically about the memories themselves? It's the **ABILITY** to **CONSCIOUSLY** think of a specific moment and fail all the same? The remaining emotions in HQ could have irreparably damaged Riley's ability to recall thinks by sending the Core Memories back first, not to mention the fact that as far as Joy knew, any one of them could have also suddenly developed the same ability as Sadness did; permanently change/override the initial emotion of a memory from when the memory was made, preventing Riley from feeling/recalling how she'd initially felt at the time for at least an extended time. Plus Joy and Sadness using the this method along with the Core Memories could also cause memory problems as well.
Some of these aren't plot holes, but here are my questions that occur when watching the BTTF trilogy: How can there be rolling hills at one side of Hill Valley, and huge epic vistas of buttes at the other? Why do the McFlys still live in such a loser suburb despite George and Lorraine now being cool and successful? Do they really need to hurry to catch the train after they defeat Buford Tannen? The answers are all: It's just a movie, it's fine.
Star Trek has an even bigger plot hole..... they went back in time to a time when Romulus still exists. They could have saved Romulus with the anti-matter that Spock brought back
No no. That’s 💩 1:36 He said he ignored it so he could make a movie about their university time? But he could do that without impacting their 4 grade history. This ain’t an explanation, whether or not he “ruined” it later. This is probably my sign to save myself eight and a half minutes.
In the matrix, i would assume operators are needed to coordinate various things between various people, and much like customer service today, even if its all automated you need a person there, at least one.
For the Monsters University plot hole, they could of just had elementary school be 1st grade, middle school be 2nd, highschool be 3rd and college/university be 4th. Probably over simplifying it, but best I could come up with.....
The operators in The Matrix are a safety device. Someone on the outside who can see things you can't. Because Cypher is working with the robots and the Matrix he doesn't need a human safety net on the outside; the matrix itself is his safety net. I'm not sure if it was intended, but the operators can't enter the Matrix at all, so it's an extra step of safety for when the matrix finally figures out how to overwrite a human and take over their body; something they really should have been aware was a possibility from the beginning, but I guess it was a product of the dial up era and analog thinking. They aren't uploading their entire mind and leaving an empty body, the brain is just sending the movement data to the matrix instead of the body and receiving the result data from the matrix [sight, sounds, etc]. I think of the human brain like a video tape in the case of the matrix; you have to have the media connected to read the media, and committing it to storage somewhere else creates inefficiencies that can't be tolerated in a real time system.
7: Not a plot hole... How many people do you know that would remember some random guy they knew for a few days, when they wee teenagers 30-40ish years later? Heck I have enough trouble remembering what my family look like between visits.
ANOTHER question raised by the Matrix explanation: coders see Cypher's screens and reckon the amount of data displayed at fractions of kilobytes (meaning very little data). I'd argue it's more, since Revolutions shows how each character is 3-or-4-dimensional. Anyway, if Cypher is coding at 8:28, WHY does he then indicate he's surveilling women? 😂 Is he multitasking? (If so, yea, let's say that's more than the visible fractions of kilobytes he's manipulating.) Is it just an off-the-cuff lie that he can distinguish women by hair color from coded representations? Either way, is he just gambling that Neo's still too green to detect his intentions?
How about the fact that Chuck Berry DOESN'T have a cousin named Marvin?!😹 Nevermind the fact that after a certain amount of time, Biff would have trouble finding people willing to take his bets! He would have had to have placed bets on things like Red Sox & Cubs breaking the curses
Yeah, never understood the Biff sports betting thing. Eventually they would cotton on that the guy literally never loses (unless he intentionally loses big sometimes to try to avoid suspicion?).
Not to mention that Biff would probably unknowingly make a big bet on a fixed game or race and the people who fixed it would make him vanish by more traditional methods.
@@mikespearwood3914 I don't think he's that smart. It's like those people who predict awards or POTUSES. You'd do better and not risk getting cut off if you bet on a few long odds like Red Sox & Cubs
@mikespearwood3914 I think he did just that. He knows the outcome of every sporting event for the next 30 years. With that information you can make sure that you win or lose whenever you want to avoid suspicion
2:42 Regardless if they remember Calvin or not, even if they remember exactly what he looked like, would you even actually consider that your son looking like the guy you had a crush for a week before falling in love with your future husband in high school was you actually son? This isn’t a plot hole, because even if the idea that somehow your son built a Time Machine and went Back in Time (Huey Lewis and The News) you would dismiss immediately as time travel doesn’t exist and yes in the world of Back to the Future it does but only three people know it exists, Doc, Marty and Biff but Biff dismisses what he sees for 30 years until he sees Marty and Doc in the future and has to hear them say it to believe it. So why would Marty's parents having no knowledge or understanding of time travel think that Calvin and their son have any connection. Also we forget faces pretty quickly. Do you remember ever face from high school or what your friend looks like if you have seen them in months without seeing them or looking at a photo?
Nobody is saying she needs to think it was her son that went back in time. More just an acknowledgement that "OMG my kid looks so much like that guy from HS. How strange is that?" And yes, I absolutely would remember the face of the guy who got me together with my husband. He wasn't just some random dude, he had some pretty significant moments with both of them.
@@kerrysater157in Lorraine's eyes Biff gets them together. So I agree she would absolutely remember the face of the guy that sexually assaulted her. She doesn't give George any thought until he stands up to Biff on her behalf.
To be fair, he deserves to be arrogant, he is one of the best filmmakers to ever walk this planet, you have LOVED a lot of his movies, you need to just sit down.
1: Not a plot hole, it is fairly simple math, with the size of the door it could only support 150 to 200 pounds (depending on what kind of wood it was, there were 2 main kinds of wood on the Titanic), above the freezing water. The two characters total weight would be like 250 to 300 pounds (100-120ish for Rose and 150-180ish for Jack). ANd no adding the life preserver to the buoyancy of the door would not have added enough buoyancy to support the extra weight of Jack, as it would only add about 20 pounds of buoyancy. Even with the lightest wood on the Titanic.
I always hate the excuse "If we didn't have the plot-hole we wouldn't have the movie" as if the script is set in stone and can never be changed. Just tighten up the script and you can keep all the same beats and remove the parts that make the characters look like morons
I never saw the Titanic one as a plot hole. Jack clearly tries to get on the door and it almost flips. Also, it would have sunk or at least been partially submerged with the weight of both of them on it which would have given both hypothermia
Guess that's another item, if we see Nero at both ages. Except fair bet Romulans are long-lived, so slow aging could be expected. Anyway, the question was why Nero didn't initiate his vengeful agenda right away after coming back in time. The answer is he ran afoul of Klingons who incarcerated him for a couple decades. Do you see some missing piece, here?
Honestly, I subscribe to the fan theory that George McFly DID know Marty "Calvin" was his son. As a big SciFi buff who writes stories himself, time travel is not a foreign idea to him, Marty constantly refers to him as "dad", starts following him around trying to get him together with Lorraine. Not to mention at the end when Marty starts to fade out, George is looking at him, turns around and gets the girl.
Not even going to get into the whole book title he writes.
Love this theory, sounds very true and realistic based off his character in the movie.
George is looking at Marty when he's fading away? I thought George was headed to the exit before turning around.
Simpler outlook: why do people even question the average human memory for faces? Marty says his goodbyes after a week without ever having even gotten his picture taken. Twelve years elapse before he's even born.
Super recognizers can match adults with their baby pictures, but I hazard most people can't. So, if ANY of the Hill Valley folks remember Marty well enough to work with a sketch artist on him, they need to hold onto that memory for anywhere from 1 TO 17 MORE years before they have a chance to notice him.
Now, I recognize that Occam's Razor, ironically perhaps, is an inexact tool (or someone please walk me through it if it is). But isn't average forgetfulness easier to accept than George being secretly savvy about the whole thing?
Also I always assumed that’s why he gets the truck at the end the movie
@@alm2187 exactly, it always befuddles me how people prefer to make themselves believe convoluted bullcrap instead of following the simpler explanation which makes more sense. After all it's all fanfiction nonsense after Bob Zemeckis and Bob Gale have made clear their ideas and intentions since the very beginning.
@@alm2187 also yeah, Occam's razor, the simpler, most rational assessment is almost always the right answer.
Title says 10, but video says 8.
A plot hole 😂
Thats whatculture for you. Incompetent af
I say 7
THERE ARE FIVE LIGHTS.
Counting man can count.
With Titanic, as much as James Cameron has a reputation for being a massive a-hole perfectionist, you do have to take into account reasonable expectations. Just because something is technically possible doesn't mean it's plausible, let alone reasonable. They _could_ have made it work, but it would have required a degree of foreknowledge, critical (and quick) thinking skills, and time. Neither Jack or Rose probably knew much about the mechanics of buoyancy beyond 'certain shapes and materials can float and others sink', both were in a very life threatening situation (as evidenced by Jack freezing to death in a short period of time, and Rose barely surviving as it was), and they both had the dexterity and strength of toddlers by the time she was stable on the door. Also, even if it could increase buoyancy I wonder if they would still have been partially submerged. To say nothing of the extra time and additional exposure needed to make this hypothetical plan work could have doomed them both anyway.
I agree with James Cameron. It was never a plot hole. The film actually show Jack flipping the door as he tired to get on it and how on earth would a guy who had just survived a sinking ship and is now in freezing water think of anything other than "holy shit, shit, shit"
I agree with the Mythbusters, Jack could've fit on the door, with Rose, and survived. Not to mention that Jack only knew Rose for a few days and banged her like once, just kick Rose off the door, say she drowned in the ship and make sure to keep the necklace to pawn in America when Jack gets rescued. Lol
I like the idea that Cypher was a top tier programmer able to write unique code that no one had been able to develop before
Also consider that a lot of times, extractions are done on the fly and in the case of an emergency. And it’s usually in response of agent activity. Cypher, however, was going to meet an agent, therefore he was in no danger. Therefore he could set up an automated, timed extraction because he was in no rush or danger.
I kind of always thought it was something from Agent Smith.
@@Rattwap this was my thought. You can write a program to create a specific exit at a specific time easily because it's all code. It's only a problem if you need to create an unpredicted exit.
I like that the dvd and Blu-ray of Back to the Future contains a FAQ page that addresses many of the fans' concerns.
Monsters University - It's always encouraging when a filmmaker says "I don't care if this contradicts previous movies in the franchise, I'm going to do whatever the hell I want to do with the story."
The Bifrost - I just assumed that the Asgardians rebuilt it. After all, they were probably the ones who built it in the first place, so why couldn't they repair and rebuild it?
The monsters inc thing is kind of dumb he could have just had them know eachother going into college its a plot hole for literally no reason
It changes the dynamics of M:U though. Overall just passing it off to a turn a phrase I think is reasonable because there exists such a thing already in regular culture. While not specifically that, but there's been plenty of times I've heard phrases referring to the past which don't actually match with what the reality is
@notspm9157 yeah your right it changes it to what it should have been based on the previous movie already having the line in it , also if it's a popular phrase in the monster vernacular why didn't we hear it anywhere else ? It's a dumb explanation for a small plot hole that could have been ignored for story purposes and never addressed, don't get me wrong I love both movies I just don't think it's a very good answer to the plot hole
@@tommystrickland6268 It's an explanation because people like nit-picking. They don't have to go and make the line appear in every subsequent dialogue piece, they can just say it's a phrase and leave it at that. Never said it's a popular phrase, but even if it was there wouldn't have been dialogue in the movie where it would also have been used elsewhere, so it's not really a dumb explanation and it's one they came up with because even though it's a small plot hole they clearly gave a bit of thought to the line before hand
@notspm9157 ya none of that really matters too much here if you disagree that's perfectly fine I feel like it was dumb because again they could have just ignored it and not addressed it at all sure people would have questioned it but why make up an on the fly answer for something that at the end of the day wasnt goingvto matter to the core audience of the film , children .
Random funny thing (obviously, it's hindsight on a movie 40 years ago.) I always thought a good note would be Johnny B. Goode sounded different in 85' because he heard Marty play the original.
Do YOU remember the face of a kid you went to summer camp with 17 years ago? Do you then look for that in your own kid as a teenager?
Yeah, I wouldn't remember either. I forget people I have met only a year ago! 😂
I mean, if it was the dude that literally got you and your spouse together, you'd surely remember, no? Or would you just never ever think about your and your partner getting together
@@jimbo_1312 If my kid ended up looking like the dude that got us together, I'd be much more likely to blame infidelity than time travel...
@@Unknown_Pie I gotta admit, though, time travel would be way cooler than your partner being a cheat
@@Unknown_Pie The "Infidelity" theory would require Lorraine to have been pregnant for about 14 years...
(and also somehow giving first birth to Marty's elder brother and sister in the process...)
In Star Trek, Nero was targeting Spock. It took Spock 25 years to come through the time portal. He only went after The Federation when they got involved by trying to stop him. Pretty simple, people...pretty simple.
Yeah I never understood why people had an issue with that. Then I watched this video, then I read the comments. People live such dull lives, they have to rip apart others accomplishments, to make them feel they also accomplished something. It’s quite pathetic.
The worst plot hole is in Lost World: Jurassic Park. How did all the crewmen on the ship carrying the T-Rex die?
Yes, agree
There’s a deleted subplot where raptors were also on the ship. Without it there it makes zero sense
@@BoyNamedSue4@BoyNamedSue4 Okay, but then what happened to the Raptors? Did they jump overboard before the ship in the US? If so, why?
@@mrdth1987 it’s a subplot they never films. There was suppose to be a scene of raptors in the city. It’s definitely a plot hole as the film is.
The T Rex escaped from the hold, killed all the crew, then got back in the hold and closed the hatch after it. As you would (unless you had really small arms...).
It's not a plot hole in Back to the Future. Memory is very unreliable especially on a longer time line and they only knew him for 1 week. Do you remember everyone you interact with after 30 years?
I think I would remember the person that got myself and my future spouse together. Anytime you recount the story of how you met. Especially Lorraine having him stay in her room unless she had SO many guys in her room she took care of.
I would remember all these big events happening in those days.
I’m 50 and still remember faces and events that happened in the past. Especially ppl who I knew face to face.
Also, even if they remembered and thought he looked like the guy that got them together, maybe they mentioned it jn his childhood and it doesn't need to be brought up in the movie plot.
@@lazysmurf7168People you knew for a week and had no picture of and no contact with after that week? Impressive.
They also spent years watching Marty growing up. One of the weird things about kids aging is you don't really notice it day to day, only when looking at comparative pictures from years apart. Completely reasonable that I would never click with them when they've watched him age over time.
I maintain that both Jack and Rose could fit on the door. The real problem is they don't understand balance and counterbalance.
Yeah, people expecting a high class woman of that time and an uneducated man to just get science, was cute at best. 🤭
One massive plot hole I have almost never seen any video address is Die Hard 2 how the ground had absolutely no way to contact the circling airplanes yet a dang reporter on one plane just used a phone to keep in constant contact with his studio, I mean even that reporter didn't try to save his own plane he would rather just "get the story".
The bad guys had taken over all systems (communication systems etc.) on the _airport_ .
@@yurenchu So? Just one airport. If planes have phones they can call anyone.
@@perriponders289 Everything that the airport staff did was being monitored (and foiled) by the bad guys.
Jack DID try to get on the door &, like they said, it began to topple over. Also, I'd imagine being in that frigid water that he wouldn't have the strength to try too many times.
According to Family Guy, George totally remembered Marty lol 🤪
So 7 and 8 have the same solution.
BttF: sorry, OBVIOUS that you don't get to know a guy a week, then recognize his face 12 to 30 years later.
MU: for inferred retcon, how about if the two monsters meet at University, then between movies realize they'd met when they were 9?
They could’ve easily made it work for MU, I just don’t think they needed to. It’s a kids movie and it was adults annoyed by it. It said it all. Adults took a child’s movie far too seriously. I’d have been embarrassed to be them. 🤷♀️
Annoyance is a separate subject,@@kirstybrown1185
Observing story inconsistencies is an analytical process. Feelings are what follow.
Take any two people who might have spotted this little anomaly.
One is annoyed?
One is embarrassed?
What's their common ground? They both noticed!
That's a good starting point to recognizing that fiction doesn't matter much. Perhaps then the one person gets past her/his/their anger. Perhaps the other ceases to be embarrassed.
Otoh, education and entertainment are the same thing. Noticing when story points are and aren't essentially consistent? That's good exercise for empirical and rational thought processes.
Most kids didn't notice this inconsistency in the Pixar films? Perfectly understandable.
Some kids did? Good for them! Might be one small sign those particular kids are detail-oriented. 😎
Kids who noticed were or weren't annoyed, or embarrassed, or of some other emotional outlook over it? Address on a case-by-case basis, natch.
Annoyance is a separate subject, @@kirstybrown1185
Observing story inconsistencies is an analytical process. Feelings are what follow.
Take any two people who might have spotted this little anomaly.
One is annoyed?
One is embarrassed?
What's their common ground? They both noticed!
That's a good starting point to recognizing that fiction doesn't matter much. Perhaps then the one person gets past her/his/their anger. Perhaps the other ceases to be embarrassed.
Otoh, education and entertainment are the same thing. Noticing when story points are and aren't essentially consistent? That's good exercise for empirical and rational thought processes.
Most kids didn't notice this inconsistency in the Pixar films? Perfectly understandable.
Some kids did? Good for them! Might be one small sign those particular kids are detail-oriented. 😎
Kids who noticed were or weren't annoyed, or embarrassed, or of some other emotional outlook over it? Address on a case-by-case basis, natch.
My replies are getting hidden, again.
Among numerous inconsistencies in Abrams/Kurtzman Trek, one more open question springs to mind.
When someone like Nero offends Klingons, why don't they execute him?
Why waste resources on his prison comforts for decades? Honor? Treaties?
Well Nero's ship was from the future so the Klingons probably kept him alive in the hopes of gaining knowledge of his ship and how things worked from him. Plus if they confirm, from his ship's computer, it is from the future then they'd at least keep him alive for his knowledge of future events.
Oh, there ya go, @@mikepatton8691
This could start to explain all the inconsistencies in Kurtzman Trek.
Honestly, the filmmaker saying "we did this so the movie can happen" like in the case of Inside Out, isn't really "solving" a plot hole. It's merely acknowledging that the plot hole is there and saying they didn't care.
Every plot hole can be explained by a character's motivation. If it isn't explained, the author didn't think about it enough. That said, none of us can see every option available to us.
It’s not a door! It’s part of the frame and it shows Jack trying to get on the door. Ahhhh
Cipher inventing something is confusing for you? They say they need an operator because THEY need one. We needed operators in the beginning of telephone use until we didn't. He was working for the machines so he also might have gotten some sort of information only they knew about. I imagine the machines could kick someone out of the program if they wanted to.
The back to the future one bothers me, marty had such an impact on both his parents lives that I doubt you would ever forget that person, even if it's only for a week. Anytime the parents recount how they got together, how biff used to beat george up until someone came into their life.
Also did Lorraine have so many guys in her bedroom she "took care of" that she forgot? Also i would remember the person my dad hit with a car in front of my house.
Yes Lorraine did have at least a few guys in her bedroom, I forget who says it, but when Lorraine's dad hits Marty with his car they said "Dad hit another one", so guys peeping on Lorraine from the tree seems to have been a thing lol
They didn't forget him, they merely forgot what he really looked like. They may also have believed that the person who got them together was the one and only Calvin Klein, the fashion designer; and clearly, that fashiion designer is not their son. Moreover, why would they suspect that time travel/a time machine was into play?
Forgetting the person, and forgetting the face of a person you knew for 8 days is different though. They wouldn’t recognise him, but I doubt they just remember him because of the name either. 🤷♀️
Respectfully disagree about Looper. It is *not* a good film, and has inherent plot problems stuck right in the core foundation of the script… which is typical Rian Johnson “writing”.
5: Not a plot hole, just a different interpretation of time travel. It used an unclosed loop version of time travel, where you could go back in time and change it, instead of the far more realistic closed loop time travel, where you can go back but you can not change the past because anything you do you already did, and therefore nothing can change.
People who thought they understood a theoretical thing, pushed it as a plot hole. It was absolutely considered a plot hole by viewers. Like you say though, it’s interpretations of it. Until time travel happens, it’s not an actual plot hole. People are weird about things they want people to think they understand. 🤭
I wouldn't call ignoring a plot-hole solving it!
Too many plot holes are created by petulant fans. They don’t deserve to feel everything they want to. 🤷♀️
In Titanic Jack had to die it is a simple as that.
Indeed, it needs that emotional weight to spurn her through her life.
My issue was just that I wanted more effort shown in them trying to save each other.
"Calvin" not being recognized by his parents 20-30 years later isn't a plot hole. It's simple logic and psychology. We don't anticipate the extraordinary, particularly when you pair it with the impossible. It's how Rainn Wilson can go completely unrecognized on a flight as the dude sitting next to him watches back-to-back episodes of "The Office" for 5 hours straight.
Hush, Thor 1 was the ONLY GOOD THOR
Agreed. Actually Ragnarok was good. It took a couple of times watching it. The humor seemed off at first. Now I think it’s hilarious.
Looper's plot hole sounds exactly like Terminator 2's. If Sarah stopped the creation of Skynet, Kyle Reese didn't need to be sent back to save her from the terminator and John was never born, so there was no reason for her to blow up Cyberdine Systems headquarters. As Miles O'Brien said, I hate temporal mechanics!
The Terminator/Grandfather paradox. Time travel is a bitch.
The biggest plothole in "Back to the Future" is that Marty McFly changes his parents' history, and yet somehow he and his two siblings still exist exactly as they were before, genetically speaking anyway. By causing his Dad to be much more assertive in his adult life and less of a pushover, the events of his parents' lives post high school would turn out very differently than in the original timeline. Therefore there is virtually no chance whatsoever that his parents would still have had sex at the exact three points in time that each of their children were conceived originally. And even if they did, the odds of the same three eggs being fertilized by the same three sperm cells as before are astronomically slim at best.
That's why I don't like alternate universe stories where the same people all exist.
And the fact they live in the same neighbourhood despite being wealthier.
That’s just overthinking it lmao
Even Doctor Emmett Brown agrees with this.
@@antmaster360for real. Like come on. That's just an obsessive level of detail that the average isn't going to think about. 😂
Number 2. Perhaps the operator is only really needed to monitor the changes in the matrix and act as a guide if things goes sideways. Since Cypher doesn't need to fear or evade the agents, so maybe he wouldn't need an operator and the code should be good enough.
It's logistical, though. Maybe having all your limbs buckled to the chair is optional. Pretty awkward, though, to jack your cable into the back of your own head.
@8:52 Honestly, I wouldn't even consider it a plot hole. I would just assume Operators weren't "necessary" but very valuable and recommended assistance and support for forays into the Matrix. They prove their value time and again, so it isn't like one needs them to be necessary for the actual entry/exit process.
While the part about the Romulans imprisoning Nero was cut, Star Trek shows that Nemoy Spock arrived decades later than Nero, and from there it should have been obvious that Nero was waiting for him to show up so that the guy he's actually mad at has to witness his revenge.
Also pretty sure we saw the Bifrost begin to regenerate at the end of Thor, the question was more about how long it would take.
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Jack was a gentleman realising that his love would survive if he just stayed in the water.
Doc Browns parallel universe explanation in part two dumbs down the paradox issue. It works I guess. There’s something to be said about the butterfly effect though.
Looper plot hole... when the younger mam shoots himself, the woman walks away with the gold from the future. But shooting himself cancels out everything that happened, including the gold from the future.
First comment! Marty's mom never did the business with Calvin so she wouldn't think twice. His dad on rhe other hand...
Even if she did the business with him, it was such a long time ago, for I doubt she would remember what he looked like. I can't even remember what the girl who took my virginity looked like, and that's meant to be a huge moment in a person's life.
*Plot hole for this video Jack and Rose weren’t trying to float on a door in titanic.*
I still remember the articles in Starlog about Back to The Future, tracking all the DeLoreans.
Monsters University is a good movie but that is a pothole that cannot be ignored
Jack was a time traveller anyway (as we all know) so his job of saving Rose's life being accomplished, his mission required him to die.
Inside out is also dealing with the emotions of a child. So they likely didn’t think of it for the same reason the kids watching the movie didn’t catch on.
Why would the machines not just be able to eject whoever they want from the matrix?
Avengers proved different ways to travel existed when thor used the space stone to get back
4: Not a plot hole, they state in the movie that he was waiting for Spock and he didn't have a weapon strong enough to get his revenge till he got Spock and thus the weapon. If he would have attack the main fleet when he first arrived he would have been destroyed. The 25 years gave him the time he needed to turn his ship into a battleship capable of taking on an army, and to obtain a planet killer weapon.
In Back to the Future 3, 1885 containing two Deloreans yet neither the Doc or Marty ever mention it or check it for Gas. Seemed like a plot hole to me.
If they had done so, it would have created a cosmic conflict (or plot hole), because the other DeLorean is meant for Marty to find it in 1955 and travel back to 1985, as Doc had written in his letter to Marty (the letter than Marty receives in the rain, at the end of BttF2 ).
@@yurenchu Not necessarily. All they needed was the Gas. They could of still left the Car in the Mine for Marty to use in 1955.
@System_Sega doubtful the gas was srill there. Doc prepped it fir ling term storage so he drained all the fluids
@@paulrasmussen8953 You might be right on that, But it still seems odd that neither the Doc or Marty ever mention it. Am guessing the writer wanted us to ignore the second car and focus on the train story line.
@System_Sega note in 1955 the younger doc Brown says he put gas in the car
Thought I'd look through the comments on the BTTF mention here before disclosing something. really, I'd rather not debate it, but speak on behalf of Zemeckis and Gale that there's a very brief part of the script at the end of the film in 1985 that George actually did remember Marty from 1955 and the dialogue was used to have George thank Marty for the encouragement.
Why no mention of the massive plot holes in Terminator 2? To start with, Sarah only survived being terminated in the first film because her name was third in the list of Sarah Connors in the phone book, and the terminator had nothing to go on apart from her name and the city she lived in. As Reese says, "most of the records were lost in the war, that terminator was just being systematic". So how the frack did the terminator in the second film have full files on Miles Dyson? How did Skynet manage to send back another terminator when the time displacement machine was destroyed after Reese was sent back? Even if Skynet WAS able to send back another terminator, why not send it back to when Sarah was a child? Why not send back an army of terminators of advanced design? The beauty of The Terminator was how it hung together logically, all the sequels made no sense at all.
The Inside Out plot hole is easy. It's a well established fact that emotions suck at thinking through things logically. The emotions got emotional and completely missed an obvious solution.
Honestly BTTF2 had a worse plothole with Older Biff somehow returning to the same future he left instead of the dystopian future his younger self made
Back to the Future is such a non-plot hole, just as Lord of the Rings fly-to-Mordor-trope. The question isn’t how to fix it but which one of the many plausible in-universe explanations to pick.
At the beginning of the movie, Marty pays for the Payphone and Coffee with money from 1985.
The Back to the Future excuse doesn't make sense. If Marty (Calvin Klein) was just some random kid in their HS sure they wouldn't remember him. The problem is, he is responsible for getting them together. They would absolutely remember the guy who worked so hard to get them together.
In Lorraine's eyes Biff is responsible for getting them together. Lorraine only gives George a second look after the incident with Biff. George could potentially make the connection, but he only talks to Lorraine because a visitor from outer space told him to. I think that has a bigger imprinting impact and Marty is just some guy that gives him tips on how to do what the alien said.
They would remember everything he did for them. Facial memory is far less likely, and there's no picture.
12 years elapse before Marty's born. Even if I'm right in front of you, could you pick me out of a lineup of baby pictures?
17 MORE years pass before he's the age they knew him. There's certainly a chance they'd notice the resemblance, but it's not that high.
For Lorraine, Calvin Klein is just some guy she fancied at school. Can you remember the exact facial features of every person you had a crush on for a week?
I've been out of high school for nearly 30 years now and I promise you that this isn't a plot hole. I wouldn't recognize most of the people I had classes with for all 4 of those years let alone someone I only knew for a couple weeks back then.
This video forgot to apply on it's makeup. Claim's it's a 10 but it's actually an 8
It's not that deep man who cares
Marty played a major role in their lives in those 8 days! There’s major life events associated with his face, they would remember his face, after all they were children and their brains were still developing. It’s not until our brains are fully developed that faces no longer become the focus to our development and survival. That’s a filmmaker hand waving a n explanation to people who know more about childhood brain development and he does apparently!😂😂 does he have children?! I can still remember the face of the kid who ate dinner with us on a camping trip when I was 12! Why? He ate fish for the first time shocking his parents and loved it so much he had 2 more helpings!
If I were George, after I saw how "my" son Marty was beginning to look, I'd have been quite suspicious that my wife and Calvin Kline had a little "secret meeting."
Ultimately, I think the Back to the Future thing gets a pass because for every person like yourself who can easily remember faces, there's an individual like me who can't.
They would remember everything he did for them. Facial memory is far less likely, and there's no picture.
12 years elapse before Marty's born. Even if I'm right in front of you, could you pick me out of a lineup of baby pictures?
17 MORE years pass before he's the age they knew him. There's certainly a chance they'd notice the resemblance, but it's not that high.
To address your case, remembering the milestone meal; the kid's first seafood, we'd need more frame of reference for if your facial memory is or isn't above average.
Looper…time travel. There’s no way to do it entirely right.
George and Loraine spent 1 week with Marty. Their son was born years later. He wouldn’t start to resemble the Marty they met for years after that. It’s not a plot hole.
But for Pete's sake! Why on Earth would George and Lorraine McFly notice that, during a period of SEVENTEEN YEARS, their youngest son grew up to resemble a guy they spent less than ONE WEEK with THIRTY YEARS earlier, and who didn't leave as much as a photograph behind? It would have been far more improbable if they had! Seriously, how can so many people ask that same, so obviously completely stupid question?
Because he is responsible for getting them together. Why is everyone acting like he was some random kid? He wasn't, he had some major moments with both. He actually followed George around for a week and Lorraine had a crush on him. Her dad hit him with his car. Most people would remember that
@@kerrysater157Calvin Klein became a famous fashion designer in the 1970s and 1980s. The face of the real Calvin Klein may have supplanted that of the guy in their memories, whom they met only for a week, 30 years ago.
The first Thor was great! Best of the 4. I'll hear no more against it.
They use space store to help fix the bifrost
Going down? You can plainly see you won't fit through a garbage or laundry chute. Going up? You'd see that a dumbwaiter looks risky, if not physically impossible for people to ride. I realize Sadness and Joy are personified entities, not people per se, but why doesn't same logic apply? Why do audiences think these personifications can take an avenue intended for cargo?
Exactly what I was thinking. That tube was simply too small for them to use.
Wonder if maybe this isn't a widely argued plot-hole, @@michaelrue1400
The Looper thing won't fly, because if it is alternate time lines then Joe is not killing the future self that is right in front of him and thus won't change anything in that reality by killing himself. It is not a good film, it is a cluster of bad decisions.
The door "plot hole" is simply solved by understanding that "Jack" is simply an imaginary person that Rose made up, either intentionally or unintentionally.
Ha! Same "Jack" from Fight Club? 😆🤗
I am jacks poorly thought out film theory
In Inside Out, they don't really fully explain the memory recall in detail. As in, whether Joy and Sadness could actually use them to quickly get back to HQ or not, plus it's unknown what would happen if you were to try to grab a replaying memory once it arrived through the recall device. Think about it. Dementia is the **IN**ability to remember/**RECALL** something, one side of that coin sure, memories of various importance do wind fading away with age, but what about dementia and other memory problem issues that aren't specifically about the memories themselves? It's the **ABILITY** to **CONSCIOUSLY** think of a specific moment and fail all the same? The remaining emotions in HQ could have irreparably damaged Riley's ability to recall thinks by sending the Core Memories back first, not to mention the fact that as far as Joy knew, any one of them could have also suddenly developed the same ability as Sadness did; permanently change/override the initial emotion of a memory from when the memory was made, preventing Riley from feeling/recalling how she'd initially felt at the time for at least an extended time. Plus Joy and Sadness using the this method along with the Core Memories could also cause memory problems as well.
Some of these aren't plot holes, but here are my questions that occur when watching the BTTF trilogy: How can there be rolling hills at one side of Hill Valley, and huge epic vistas of buttes at the other? Why do the McFlys still live in such a loser suburb despite George and Lorraine now being cool and successful? Do they really need to hurry to catch the train after they defeat Buford Tannen? The answers are all: It's just a movie, it's fine.
George McFly would also resemble Marty McFly a lot more than Crispin Glover resembles Michael J. Fox, if it were real.
"Romulan Miner"... all I heard was "Miner, NOT Minor!" Sorry, different movie.
The correct answer is "because!" and thats it.
Star Trek has an even bigger plot hole..... they went back in time to a time when Romulus still exists. They could have saved Romulus with the anti-matter that Spock brought back
No no. That’s 💩 1:36
He said he ignored it so he could make a movie about their university time? But he could do that without impacting their 4 grade history.
This ain’t an explanation, whether or not he “ruined” it later.
This is probably my sign to save myself eight and a half minutes.
I disagree with Cameron completely because it’s funny to see him get mad about it
I'm surprised Rian Johnson didn't just blame the viewers of his piss poor attempts at films.
You just have to believe or ignore.
In the matrix, i would assume operators are needed to coordinate various things between various people, and much like customer service today, even if its all automated you need a person there, at least one.
Did you all get rid of the one per list shirts?
For the Monsters University plot hole, they could of just had elementary school be 1st grade, middle school be 2nd, highschool be 3rd and college/university be 4th. Probably over simplifying it, but best I could come up with.....
I would have said rather than "an expression all monsters use" just an exaggeration on the part of Mike.
The operators in The Matrix are a safety device.
Someone on the outside who can see things you can't.
Because Cypher is working with the robots and the Matrix he doesn't need a human safety net on the outside; the matrix itself is his safety net.
I'm not sure if it was intended, but the operators can't enter the Matrix at all, so it's an extra step of safety for when the matrix finally figures out how to overwrite a human and take over their body; something they really should have been aware was a possibility from the beginning, but I guess it was a product of the dial up era and analog thinking.
They aren't uploading their entire mind and leaving an empty body, the brain is just sending the movement data to the matrix instead of the body and receiving the result data from the matrix [sight, sounds, etc].
I think of the human brain like a video tape in the case of the matrix; you have to have the media connected to read the media, and committing it to storage somewhere else creates inefficiencies that can't be tolerated in a real time system.
7: Not a plot hole... How many people do you know that would remember some random guy they knew for a few days, when they wee teenagers 30-40ish years later? Heck I have enough trouble remembering what my family look like between visits.
ANOTHER question raised by the Matrix explanation: coders see Cypher's screens and reckon the amount of data displayed at fractions of kilobytes (meaning very little data). I'd argue it's more, since Revolutions shows how each character is 3-or-4-dimensional. Anyway, if Cypher is coding at 8:28, WHY does he then indicate he's surveilling women? 😂
Is he multitasking? (If so, yea, let's say that's more than the visible fractions of kilobytes he's manipulating.)
Is it just an off-the-cuff lie that he can distinguish women by hair color from coded representations?
Either way, is he just gambling that Neo's still too green to detect his intentions?
How about the fact that Chuck Berry DOESN'T have a cousin named Marvin?!😹
Nevermind the fact that after a certain amount of time, Biff would have trouble finding people willing to take his bets! He would have had to have placed bets on things like Red Sox & Cubs breaking the curses
Yeah, never understood the Biff sports betting thing. Eventually they would cotton on that the guy literally never loses (unless he intentionally loses big sometimes to try to avoid suspicion?).
Not to mention that Biff would probably unknowingly make a big bet on a fixed game or race and the people who fixed it would make him vanish by more traditional methods.
@@mikespearwood3914 I don't think he's that smart. It's like those people who predict awards or POTUSES. You'd do better and not risk getting cut off if you bet on a few long odds like Red Sox & Cubs
@mikespearwood3914 I think he did just that. He knows the outcome of every sporting event for the next 30 years. With that information you can make sure that you win or lose whenever you want to avoid suspicion
2:42 Regardless if they remember Calvin or not, even if they remember exactly what he looked like, would you even actually consider that your son looking like the guy you had a crush for a week before falling in love with your future husband in high school was you actually son? This isn’t a plot hole, because even if the idea that somehow your son built a Time Machine and went Back in Time (Huey Lewis and The News) you would dismiss immediately as time travel doesn’t exist and yes in the world of Back to the Future it does but only three people know it exists, Doc, Marty and Biff but Biff dismisses what he sees for 30 years until he sees Marty and Doc in the future and has to hear them say it to believe it. So why would Marty's parents having no knowledge or understanding of time travel think that Calvin and their son have any connection. Also we forget faces pretty quickly. Do you remember ever face from high school or what your friend looks like if you have seen them in months without seeing them or looking at a photo?
Nobody is saying she needs to think it was her son that went back in time. More just an acknowledgement that "OMG my kid looks so much like that guy from HS. How strange is that?" And yes, I absolutely would remember the face of the guy who got me together with my husband. He wasn't just some random dude, he had some pretty significant moments with both of them.
@@kerrysater157in Lorraine's eyes Biff gets them together. So I agree she would absolutely remember the face of the guy that sexually assaulted her. She doesn't give George any thought until he stands up to Biff on her behalf.
The first Thor was a brilliant piece of Shakespearian storytelling. It's the second one that sucked donkey balls.
Cameron's remarks towards Mythbusters just shows how arrogant he is.
To be fair, he does have a point.
To be fair, he deserves to be arrogant, he is one of the best filmmakers to ever walk this planet, you have LOVED a lot of his movies, you need to just sit down.
Titanic does not live in this universe. Its Titanic is nothing much like the real one.
This videos title is a plot hole.
2:30 When it came out I was young and dumb but I knew this was BS and the reason why is BS too
this video itself is a plot hole prob on purpose🤞
1: Not a plot hole, it is fairly simple math, with the size of the door it could only support 150 to 200 pounds (depending on what kind of wood it was, there were 2 main kinds of wood on the Titanic), above the freezing water. The two characters total weight would be like 250 to 300 pounds (100-120ish for Rose and 150-180ish for Jack).
ANd no adding the life preserver to the buoyancy of the door would not have added enough buoyancy to support the extra weight of Jack, as it would only add about 20 pounds of buoyancy. Even with the lightest wood on the Titanic.
I always hate the excuse "If we didn't have the plot-hole we wouldn't have the movie" as if the script is set in stone and can never be changed. Just tighten up the script and you can keep all the same beats and remove the parts that make the characters look like morons
The whole Star Trek reboots are all horrible so I don't care about the potholes
I never saw the Titanic one as a plot hole. Jack clearly tries to get on the door and it almost flips. Also, it would have sunk or at least been partially submerged with the weight of both of them on it which would have given both hypothermia
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I dunno what you mean, Nero was an adult!
Guess that's another item, if we see Nero at both ages. Except fair bet Romulans are long-lived, so slow aging could be expected.
Anyway, the question was why Nero didn't initiate his vengeful agenda right away after coming back in time.
The answer is he ran afoul of Klingons who incarcerated him for a couple decades. Do you see some missing piece, here?
There's a fan theory about Titanic. The character of Jack never existed, except in Rose's mind.