After buying just about every other ORV part you have on Shapeways I just ordered the double wishbone suspension. I love this video.....I think The Who Happy Jack would of made better background music though.....lol.
love the comment " if you think you can drive better with a baby on your chest I'd like to see you try" 😂 but love your videos they are extremely helpful fo helping me with my new found hobby
Nice! Are you going to be designing a front shock mount for the Frog? The few that have been released before are no longer available :( Also, I like the idea of color matching it to the rest of my Frog.
Alberto..... I realize that you may need to do some CYA on your parts. I can verify from my own experiences on my Lunchbox, with all of your Upgrades on it.... just hasn't Broken!! 👍👍😎🍻🍻🍻🍻 Maybe being 54 instead of 24 may have a little to do with it, but I'm NOT easy on it!! With a Lexan Body to keep the center of gravity lower (yes, even the MENTION of COG on a Lunchbox is hilarious!!), and the AmPro Engineering Double Wishbone Front Suspension.... It ALMOST handles like a REAL RC!!! 😱😅😅😊😎 I can't WAIT to be able to afford another ORV, Brat or Blackfoot, haven't decided. Who knows what else you might have available by then! Carmine 💥 ⛽
year later again.... curiosity, if the bottom shock mount location were 1/8-1/4" further inboard, would the suspension be a little softer and make better advantage of the longer bodied shorter travel heavier springed stock Tamiya shocks? the GoPro video of it working was great! on landing I saw the shocks bottoming and causing more bounce, possibly before the suspension travel had reached it's upper limit. moving the shock bottoms inward would naturally require a bit taller shock tower. not trying to troll or nitpick with these thoughts, they might help, I like the concepts!!
See the problem with that is it would increase suspension travel and those dog bones are way too short. This design was tricky since I wanted it to work on ALL orv cars, vintage or not. Also, those shocks in that video had who knows what in them, haha! I guess I should have maybe rebuilt them? Think that would have been a good idea when trying to test the suspension I designed? Na....I also love to hear the concepts! I think I want to find a way to make the tower taller too but the reason it is where it is i has to do with fitting the Brat shell. It barely clears!
What would it cost for all the things that you done to this chassis the front end parts the rear and everything I have 3 of these trucks and I would like to do them over please comment back
No idea. Depends on your location and what options you select. Add them to your car on shapeways with your location entered and you will get an exact price.
Excellent testing video-especially with the GoPro pointing at the suspension while you're driving-showing everything working. I'm definitely going to add this upgrade into my build of my Subaru Brat. Can I still use the boots for the driveshafts with this setup? Are there any possible plans for shock mounts for the front suspension of the Brat/Frog?
Hmmm, the boots should still work, I think tamiya shows them in the manual. As for the brat/frog front end, I have lots of ideas but currently they all need hardware that is not available any longer. I will keep looking at it.
Where does that aluminum plate you have your receiver mounted to come from? Is that an OG car mechanical speed control thing? My 2016 Blackfoot did not come with one. Is that a piece you could make (in nylon of course)?
These are all 3mm screw pins. I always get the longest possible ones and then cut to fit. The longest one needed here is 35mm. Parts list is in the description of the build video. Should all be there!
I don't know where to post this question, but here it goes....would it be possible to use lunchbox wheels/tires on a Blackfoot and lower the body with a custom front shock tower??
At this time we do not sell the files. Last time I did they ended up in china and now my gears and a-arms are all over ebay. I am looking at a print file transfer company so that may change. The main issue is that these are designed for sls nylon and not any filament based ABS.
@@AMPROEngineering Understandable. The printers we have here at work are resin, to me those seem a little too rigid anyways. Thanks for the vidoes. Great quality and great info.
The resin printers are awesome. I would even say that they are on par or better than nylon depending on the material. I am working with a company right now about the files so I will let you know.
@@AMPROEngineering Great. Thanks. Also, I noticed in one of your videos, you have the independent suspension mod for grasshoppers and hornets. I have a lunchbox, do you think it would work for that?
Not yet. I have a plan for that but super fly 3 needs to be made first and then it will bolt on to the Lunchie. No way it will be strong enough for bashing with those big tires though.
Oh these are vintage Tamiya CVA Short shocks. You can get new versions of these for the MB and BF (yellow and black respectively) on eBay from the re-releases. I bought some black ones for my vintage BF and they are quite nice. I hope that info helps.
not exactly the same but I used as had em lying around TRX Stampede front suspension on a King Blackfoot with great success. Never liked the poor travel on front suspension.
@@AMPROEngineering It’s great stuff. I even used it on a pair of shoes once! Lol I also used it to stick my homemade Losi LMT carbon fibre axel strengtheners on. Right now building my first Blackfoot and yesterday, after I had the body all painted with the roof piece Tamiya cemented in, it started to come loose, so I just slathered the inside with shoe goo.
Cant wait to do all this to my Blackfoot! Thank you for applying your expertise to the ORV chassis.
My pleasure. These older kits are not through being hopped up in my book.
Decent driving via the papoose & neat looking body the way it is. You have defiantly made the orv worth owning.
Haha thank you!
After buying just about every other ORV part you have on Shapeways I just ordered the double wishbone suspension. I love this video.....I think The Who Happy Jack would of made better background music though.....lol.
Haha! Yeah maybe.
Thats a great upgrade! Very nice work!
Thank you!
I noted that,, I am stock on my suspension ! ,, let my fix and do some self testing , Nice Work , can't wait
Thank you! I ran mine stock since 1994!
love the comment " if you think you can drive better with a baby on your chest I'd like to see you try" 😂 but love your videos they are extremely helpful fo helping me with my new found hobby
Haha, thanks!
That's cool might end up getting that for my black foot after seeing the prefromance that your design gave.
I'm happy you like it! It was fun to design.
AMPRO Engineering your welcome I bet it was fun to do.
Nice! Are you going to be designing a front shock mount for the Frog? The few that have been released before are no longer available :( Also, I like the idea of color matching it to the rest of my Frog.
I am looking into it. All of mine have mods that I thought were readily available but as you mention, they are long out of stock. Very sad.
Alberto..... I realize that you may need to do some CYA on your parts. I can verify from my own experiences on my Lunchbox, with all of your Upgrades on it.... just hasn't Broken!! 👍👍😎🍻🍻🍻🍻
Maybe being 54 instead of 24 may have a little to do with it, but I'm NOT easy on it!! With a Lexan Body to keep the center of gravity lower (yes, even the MENTION of COG on a Lunchbox is hilarious!!), and the AmPro Engineering Double Wishbone Front Suspension....
It ALMOST handles like a REAL RC!!! 😱😅😅😊😎
I can't WAIT to be able to afford another ORV, Brat or Blackfoot, haven't decided. Who knows what else you might have available by then!
Carmine 💥 ⛽
Glad to hear it man!
Are you working on the king Blackfoot stuff yet please comment back thank you
Not at the moment. I will soon
@@AMPROEngineering OK thank you very much please let me know when you do thank you
year later again.... curiosity, if the bottom shock mount location were 1/8-1/4" further inboard, would the suspension be a little softer and make better advantage of the longer bodied shorter travel heavier springed stock Tamiya shocks? the GoPro video of it working was great! on landing I saw the shocks bottoming and causing more bounce, possibly before the suspension travel had reached it's upper limit. moving the shock bottoms inward would naturally require a bit taller shock tower. not trying to troll or nitpick with these thoughts, they might help, I like the concepts!!
See the problem with that is it would increase suspension travel and those dog bones are way too short. This design was tricky since I wanted it to work on ALL orv cars, vintage or not. Also, those shocks in that video had who knows what in them, haha! I guess I should have maybe rebuilt them? Think that would have been a good idea when trying to test the suspension I designed? Na....I also love to hear the concepts! I think I want to find a way to make the tower taller too but the reason it is where it is i has to do with fitting the Brat shell. It barely clears!
What would it cost for all the things that you done to this chassis the front end parts the rear and everything I have 3 of these trucks and I would like to do them over please comment back
No idea. Depends on your location and what options you select. Add them to your car on shapeways with your location entered and you will get an exact price.
@@AMPROEngineering I live in Connecticut
Excellent testing video-especially with the GoPro pointing at the suspension while you're driving-showing everything working. I'm definitely going to add this upgrade into my build of my Subaru Brat. Can I still use the boots for the driveshafts with this setup? Are there any possible plans for shock mounts for the front suspension of the Brat/Frog?
Hmmm, the boots should still work, I think tamiya shows them in the manual. As for the brat/frog front end, I have lots of ideas but currently they all need hardware that is not available any longer. I will keep looking at it.
Where does that aluminum plate you have your receiver mounted to come from? Is that an OG car mechanical speed control thing? My 2016 Blackfoot did not come with one. Is that a piece you could make (in nylon of course)?
Oh that is factory. Maybe the older ORV's are different? Shoot me any email. Amproengineering@gmail.com
Have you ever thought about using E-maxx shocks
Yeah but the spring rate is too high.
I picked up 2 of the Blackfoot trucks I would like to purchase the upgrades for them please comment back thank you
Sure thing, links to the parts are in the corresponding video description.
What size screw pins or hinge pins are needed for completion?
These are all 3mm screw pins. I always get the longest possible ones and then cut to fit. The longest one needed here is 35mm. Parts list is in the description of the build video. Should all be there!
Thank you
I don't know where to post this question, but here it goes....would it be possible to use lunchbox wheels/tires on a Blackfoot and lower the body with a custom front shock tower??
Yes you can. They should be a direct fit. The body can be lowered but the body mounts need to be changed.
Any way to buy the 3D files from you and print them myself? All these upgrades on shapeways cost more than the car.
At this time we do not sell the files. Last time I did they ended up in china and now my gears and a-arms are all over ebay. I am looking at a print file transfer company so that may change. The main issue is that these are designed for sls nylon and not any filament based ABS.
@@AMPROEngineering Understandable. The printers we have here at work are resin, to me those seem a little too rigid anyways. Thanks for the vidoes. Great quality and great info.
The resin printers are awesome. I would even say that they are on par or better than nylon depending on the material. I am working with a company right now about the files so I will let you know.
@@AMPROEngineering Great. Thanks. Also, I noticed in one of your videos, you have the independent suspension mod for grasshoppers and hornets. I have a lunchbox, do you think it would work for that?
Not yet. I have a plan for that but super fly 3 needs to be made first and then it will bolt on to the Lunchie. No way it will be strong enough for bashing with those big tires though.
What are the shocks? I have been searching.
All over for an after market shock
Oh these are vintage Tamiya CVA Short shocks. You can get new versions of these for the MB and BF (yellow and black respectively) on eBay from the re-releases. I bought some black ones for my vintage BF and they are quite nice. I hope that info helps.
THANK YOU...for sharing.
My pleasure
Awesome video and products have a King Blackfoot so back is fine but front does need something as it's just rubbish
I actually think the front of the King BF is worse than the BF. Well dont Tamiya.
I should have watched the whole video...shapeways.com is where to find this product
Haha! Find them on there?
not exactly the same but I used as had em lying around TRX Stampede front suspension on a King Blackfoot with great success. Never liked the poor travel on front suspension.
Interesting. Yeah, it's no good.
Replace your hot glue fixes with Shoe goo. You'll never go back.
I use shoogoo a lot! The hot glue helps if I need it done asap.
@@AMPROEngineering It’s great stuff. I even used it on a pair of shoes once! Lol I also used it to stick my homemade Losi LMT carbon fibre axel strengtheners on. Right now building my first Blackfoot and yesterday, after I had the body all painted with the roof piece Tamiya cemented in, it started to come loose, so I just slathered the inside with shoe goo.
Y find all blackfoot for repair my black foot sale me the blackfoot.
Did you look on ebay?