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- Could this spell a change in the way Apple communicates with TH-cam channels and personalities? Does Apple deserve to be commended for this approach? Will you steer clear of the 2018 MacBook Pro Core i9?
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What are your thoughts?
apple sucks
Another mediocre overpriced Apple product
Android is far better
Hi
Unbox Therapy simply it is a hot garbage
i look like a simpson on your set
Dave Lee You do! It’s so weird!
Dave Lee hello Dev how r u
Dave Lee is it because of the lighting? You sure look different from your own video channel..
Love your videos! And I thought your video was very objective. You put every laptop you get through rigorous tests. And everyone started disagreeing with you because you tested and Apple laptop and found it lacking.
And the wide angle lens makes it even worse 😂
You can tell Dave was annoyed as hell by him through the entire video 😂
Erick Khan a little banter.
That's Lew for yew
agreed, Lew was quite iritating and interruptive and loud
Body language
Could tell the moment the vid started
Dave 2d is the only reviewer that says the dell xps 15 throttles and everyone else didn't say anything. I got one and it throttled. Dave is the most honest reviewer.
well linus said it throttles too
Throttle means it slows down.
So lets say I have a 4 GHz CPU, when it hits a certain temperature, the computer will down-clock the CPU to lets say 2.5 GHz until the computer comes down to a reasonable temperature.
during this time the CPU performance is reduced by a large margin, like lets say under normal use, you're computer will seem to be more laggy, or just overall slower. This is what throttling is with in the tech field.
Are you talking about the i9?
Why would you get a dell?
+VadHarDuFörGrafikkort : Better than an Apple device, which will have some sort of hardware failure at the drop of a hat, or because it's become 2 years old. Then you bring it to a third party repair shop, because authorized service refuses to repair it for some reason, and Apple bricks your device with a software update 8 months later.
Take a shot for every time he interrupts him
I would DIE
Might as well drink 4 bottles of vodka
The Selchies stop i cant eat that many eggs
The Selchies +
The Selchies
*Y O U H A V E D I E D*
Dave my man....I give you respect for the tolerance you had to bear....
I'm in full support with you...
Dave became one of my favorite youtubers because of that. One of the few willing to call things out for what they are.
Yeah, never though unbox therapy would be this mean to the guy. Poor interviewing skills
I gave a new i9 Macbook Pro to my friend in Alaska and his igloo melted.
Michael Jay - Value Investing yeah... the mac 💻 tragic all around lol
ha ha
Michael Jay - Value Investing nice one hahaha
Michael Jay - Value Investing Just to join in
I gave mine to a researcher in Antarctica, now half of the ice has melt.
Hahahahaha
Dave is one of the most genuine TH-camrs I've ever seen, hatts off to his work ethic and the fact that he stayed true to his opinion regardless of what the community thought. Thumbs up
Yeah true... You have shared my thoughts here. Good job by Dave especially when youtubers are afraid to say bad things about the apple company.
a shame he went for more clickbaity titles
Shravan Parthasarathy You realize you are watching Unbox Therapy.....right?
I realize that, my comment was directed towards Dave's videos because the subject of this comment thread was regarding Dave.
Perfectly said.
Dave's body language - can't wait to get out of the seat.
He is nervous
@Ahmed Shahriar no he is crying for not getting invited to the launch events and no reviewers hands-on experience and why in the world did 11 pro max vid title was do not buy it? Which is infact the best phone of 2019n best video and bokeh, hdr till date
@@kaamilshaikh7814 He gets more views without those hands on videos. What would he complain about.
Apple was triggered about that bendgate video. But Lew actually helped people choose a device which would not bend from day to day use and made Apple realised it's mistake and redesign their product using different materials.
That video also brought many people into tech videos cause I think after that video the amount of views tech TH-camrs got was increased many folds and we also got our jerryrigeverything from that video. He started doing full durability test after that video blew up.
Stop talking over the guy whenever he tried to give a reasonable point this dude keeps talking over him his face gestures made it look like he wanted to punch you in the face
DogQueef oh yeah yeah
DogQueef I think he was trying to stop him from naming youtubers because his channel isn’t about controversy amongst other ppl.
It's Lew's style and thats it! Thats why we love him! It give the video some rythmes, dont be so serious you guys
DogQueef oh yh yh you have gay
Oh yeah yeah
LET THE MAN SPEAK!!!!!!! U keep interupting him...
he's a fucking awful interviewer
Unboxed for the morons... defends a nice boxed shit. Its SHIT...
ikr he used to be decent like a year or two ago and now hes just gotten annoying
That's UT for ya
The man's a bit to mean. I think an interviewer should not debate with his interviewee. He keeps on opposing a lot of what dave said lol
Dude stop interrupting him. I could tell he was getting visibly annoyed at you
Zachary Spriggs he was so fucking rude
he do it everytime
he think is funny, he probably would keep doing it
Zachary Spriggs videos are clipped and edited, you have no idea what it was actually like.
adeep187 The parts when they are exchanging words (as you would with an interview) are showing Lew constantly interrupting him and the guy looking annoyed when he does. I recognize cuts and edits.
3:07 WHY THE HELL DID YOU INTERRUPT HIM THERE? OF ALL PLACES?!
Do da doo doo
it was a joke man. over-dramatizing in a ridiculous way, Unbox Therapy is laughing at himself. And Dave Lee takes it lightly, saying "i look like a simpson on your set"
Because he's a paid jewish :(
Good question, ads always interrupt our vid flows as well. It's stupid to stop ads in TH-cam 🤓. Hav best day pal
I like Unbox Therapy, but this interview was a little uncomfortable.
it wasn't even a interview he diden't really asked him many quetions just pulled faces
Lew always makes his guests uncomfortable. The guests go along with it; it's for the video.
IKR can Lew stay professional for like 6 seconds? Like come on.
This channel is for entertainment, and I thought it was pretty entertaining.
I agree
I like Dave, he seems like a genuinely nice and honest guy.
Very honest, he told Jay he customized his 730s, when it was built to order by Salomondrin. He is a big baby with a glass ego.
Just because you sympathise with your race LolScheißen't
Sebastian Varga that's pretty racist of you to say kid.
Yeah you're right! I think he is also a boyfriend material. So cute and adorable hehehe.. 😍
Everyone knows Dave
Try not to be SO aggressive in your interviews. He was saying one thing and you diverted it another way and you kept putting words in his mouth. You barely let him speak.
Cuz he is biased against Apple bro. Look around his videos, he is supposed to tell the truth or at least being relatively objective in this channel when he got so many viewers, but for so long he had never commented almost any positive things about iPhone since ipx came out. And don’t get me wrong. He said it’s not worth it and things like “OH LOOK!!! iPhone sucks, pixel is better Samsung is faster in internet speed, etc. Can you imagine he just is so quick and so urgent about putting the downsides about Apple products in front of his videos once there is any rumors out there, while no bad things about android has been compared with iOS devices. You get the point. But, hey, iPhone is the best selling product since last year October or so, and what about his recommendation about pixel 2, his best smartphone? He is so miserable that he thinks everything other than Apple is cool and by making that statement makes him even cooler. LOL
Aggression can often be a sign of intimidation o_O
The pixel 2 is better than an iphone. Also I dont think hes miserable, it sounds like you are lol
Lawrence Richards Apple deserves more criticism because they are selling a more expensive product. So many other companies now sell better phones and laptops for less money. That's why Apple deserves more flack, they are ripping people off.
Dr Mantis Tobogan are you calling me miserable?? 0.o
unbox therapy needs some uninterrupt therapy..
Please dude, let Dave talk, you can't interrupt him continuously and paraphrase everything he says
yes he can LOL his video and his channel
Yeah, his video and his channel, but politeness has no video and no channel; you should be polite especially to another youtuber/friend that accept to come to your studio
I don't understand this comment chain, the language (the way it's typed) is very confusing and feels foreign.
It doesn't see he is interrupting him, it seems to be more the editing. lol
It was a joke.
He attacc
He protecc
But most importantly
He unbox tecc
Vetoed Impersonator This meme has 1 'c', not 2.
lol
IanInferno50 bruh there was 55 likes then I clicked on it, likes when to 74
A man of culture... to the top with you!
Lol
He attacc
He protect
But most importantly
He rekk
Lewis, try not to be so patronizing man. Dave2d deserves the attention and appreciation he is getting. He works hard man; making a different intro animation for every video just goes to show that.
shikhar priyadarshi, I agree. it feels he was condencending and I hope he apologized. plus the way he treats "Lui Do" is bord3rline stereotype at times.
that intro made it seem like apple mysteriously killed him in his sleep
Derrick Truong they just made him into a human centipad
Ahahahahahah!!
LET DAVE TALK!!!!
Lol y so serious
Read my mind
Yeah jesus christ. he was interrupted so many times.. plus the editing. Lou what the hell man
Exactly! Man this video made me angry
Kinda got pissed when he wouldn't let him talk
I have nothing but respect for Dave, he is the BEST tech reviewer by a mile. Marques is good but Dave is a step above. If you compare his reviews to iJustine there's absolutely no comparison. If I want an honest opinion I would trust Dave over anybody.
I also love his clean, minimal A E S T H E T I C S
Well u cant compare him to ijustine coz she is obviously an apple fangrill
Akshay Sri harsha I agree with ya
Akshay Sri Harsha *AppleSHEEP
I used to like mkhb more before...but something changed... Dave keeps delivering better reviews, the quality is getting better.
dave is not enjoying this "interview"
Unbox therapy: you respect those guys?
Do you respect the man sat next to you? You know he is a guest on your show, be a bit more respectful and let the man speak Jesus Christ.
He did speak, watch the video
@Trosty he got interrupted for the most part of the video and if by speak you are referring to Unbox Therapy, then you might be right lol
@@blasttrash show me when he interrupted him
Rewatch the video. I think its much better to find where he did not interrupt him lol. Also just look at the comments lol. Everyone feels the same way. But you asked for one instance, I had to get the timestamp. Here 3:00 whats up with those grunts lol?
@@blasttrash I see I see, he was being a little rude and oppinionated, thanks for showing me :)
thumbs down for cutting him off so much
Apple: sends software patch for a hardware problem
Public: omg apple so brave and actually care about us
I know.. If they really cared they would make a thicker macbook that would take advantage of the i9 completely. Maybe event a 17in macbook?
Hawk Eyes haha. Apple is the liberal of the tech world
Jonathan8995 get a load of this nigga
Hawk Eyes Apple: have we hardware problem? Cut the frequencies so i9 run like an i7 but more expensive
Tim Grain Everything is political!! :D
Truth is every tech TH-camr is NOW jealous of Dave Lee.
Not me :) But he did a good job.
AppleToday good one, also I didn't meant to offend the community:)
Terrible "interview" Didn't allow D2D to speak much
it was a joke.
Shut up
You don't understand the point of this video. It's about having fun, in order to diffuse a situation which could have crippled D2D's relationship with Apple. Unbox Therapy did D2D a solid.
Lew, this interview was awful.
Miguel Krewson it wasn't an interview, it was Lew unboxing the latest trend and getting the views
Nono Amigo u cant see me
you unboxing human now?
Yes
Imagine him just going to a hospital and unboxing a baby from its mother.
Boiled Dimsdale lmao
Yes
Underrated comment!!!
You should've unboxed a fridge to go along with this
Veridian funniest comment I've read today 😂😂💀
Haha Yesss!!!!!!
LOL
ahhahahahahahahah
Which fridge makes the MacBook pro run best.
You have just disrespected this man. His consistency on uploads and brutal honesty with new systems is a quality most of you don't have. Please apologize to him
Apple did it on purpose
English on point.
talking to people like this guy, but 10 years ago, is why i havn't had a phone for at least 5+ years
I apologise
It seemed like Lewis is the one who was throttling Dave😄
Lou has an... interesting talent for making people uncomfortable.
Introvert vs extrovert. Classic difference.
Jig Smoove
Fellow Introvert
Dave...stay away from that unboxtherapig. He's not a good friend
D O N T H I N K S O
How come?
he is an opportunist
I couldn't get through the video without this dude interrupting the guest 1000x in the most annoying way!
That's part of his style though...
@@CmanCorporations exactly
@@CmanCorporations being an arse isn't a style, hes a guest and kept talking over him. its just rude
It's hilarious
You made Dave sooo uncomfortable.
And ur dp made me more uncomfortable🤪🤪🤪
trueeeee
The fuck kind of profile picture is THAT
True bro.
Phandow X 😂😂😂😂
unsubscribing. Reasons?
Well learn to respect others, especially if u have called him out on your set.
Dont worry. They wont give 2 shits about u subing or unsubing LOL Dont think too big of urself LOL if u want unsub just do it L:OL Dont need to leave ur comment here.
Ishy Ventura okayyy bring WD S too.
Same.
@Danial Rafiqi what?
Sumeet Singh that’s exactly how he always does with Android , wants everyone to say android it’s the best or that Samsung is the best , and when some Apple fan talks he interrupts as in this video !!,
Davee Lee is much better reviewer than you. And I like him very much because he isn't a actor. Over Actor. He is just a wise reviewer
geez relax
@@dorianr8829 He is relaxed indeed. Why you got a problem?
150th like
I agree but he's doing something right to have 14m subscribers. I don't know why I click on him can't stand him
Les doesn't do reviews, he unboxes stuff. The clue is in his channel name.
I gotta say, I'm a huge fan of Unbox Therapy vids. This was the first one I disliked and it might just stop me from watching other vids now. I think Dave is owed an apology here.
Daniel Woolfe same bruh. It's sad
Like Unbox Therapy gives 2 shits about ure checking or not LOL
bye
So are you just looking around for negative comments to give a nonchalant reply? Get a life
I guess you realised there isn't much to learn from these unboxing videos. Most of the time the guy is just drooling over the technology without giving us ANY informative comments on it.
Dave kinda looks like he's been kidnapped and interrogated here. I started watching his blinking pattern for some "help me" message. 😂
catbertz lmao it does feel like it I was annoyed for him
Screw all the TH-camrs (including those I follow and love to watch) that effectively tried to discredit Dave2D. Your problem is your testing sucks, just like all the Tech TH-camrs who had great reviews for the GTX970 because none of them properly tested the card, and then the memory controversy blew up in Nvidia’s face.
Rubinix Cube The GTX 970 was (and still is) a beast of a card at its price point - even with 3.5GB of VRAM. Not the best comparison to this i9 MacBook. It performed better than the 960, and it wasn't shockingly overpriced!
Neil I wasn't actually referring to the performance of either technology. I was referring to the TH-camrs who didn't perform the full set of tests from end to end. Even though it wasn't a problem for everyone (just like in this case), it wasnt "as advertised" for those few that tried using it to it's full potential.
Rubinix Cube Running the standard performance tests was valid because the card still performed fps-wise as advertised. Only a very niche % of the userbase was effected, but the problem was blown out of proportion, mostly by AMD fans (even though it was far better than competing AMD cards). It was still technically 4GB just 0.5GB was VRAM. The card itself still performed fps-wise as advertised by Nvidia. It was terrible marketing on their part, no doubt but a bit different to this situation. With the Apple i9 it's akin to saying you bought the 980ti but it performed worse than the 970 in certain tasks because Nvidia didn't provide adequate cooling. Hardly an apples to apples comparison. Nvidia used a different approach to their card architecture that still pushed technology forward, even if it was marketed badly, whilst Apple are just putting a better chip in so it sounds better without actually designing the machine to cater to that chip - progressing nothing. With the i9 it effects literally every unit, so almost the entire userbase is effected. Imo while they are both examples of misleading specs, one of them is far more egregious - especially considering the price of the i9 MacBook. The GTX 970 was the price/performance king for ages. Just my 2 cents.
The End Game wtf fanboy alert
Neil Actually it's 3.5 gb on one module and .5 on another so really it is 4GB
But , where is APPLE'S response ...
Clikbait ex machina
Lou seems jealous Dave found the flaw, and annoyed that Dave wasn't as enthusiastic as he was with the MacBook.
Dave looks uncomfortable AF!
Andy Silver lew is scary
Andy Silver -yah he looked stressed
Because Lew is annoying and loud. Also comparied to Dave he is incredibly unprofessional
I imagine Lew is pretty obnoxious to be around
Lew is intimidating him.
Dave is saying something and He is saying "Hmm" so loud for two times interupting in what he was saying. Ofcourse Dave would feel awkward if you are called for interview and get this type of treatment.
Ved Prakash Sahu lou actually bitching around....there's no point on doing this interview...he's fuckin care views than words...
It’s because Dave was dropping names. Lee doesn’t care for controversy between different tech youtubers that’s why he was so stuck on finding out whether he respected them or not
Donte B. Dude he could just cut the video midway and tell him to not mention any names...leave that part out of the video and continue normally instead of being an asshole
Annoyed annoyed and annoyed. Let him talk dude, what's wrong with you? dissapointed
chill
Damn.
I'm a tech enthusiast and dave channel is more interesting than unboxtherapy even mkbhd. He's straight to the point, no unneeded joke, edit less understandable more and he upload video almost everyday.
He told only what is needed, like the specs, performance, build quality, ergonomic, gaming-rendering, and issues. Compact and satisfied ass hell. Because i don't have all day to hear unboxtherapy lame joke and mkbhd unnecessary side opinion.
The base mean of review is very simple, unwrap it and explain it. I see only dave and detroitborg who stick to that definition nowadays.
I agree. . . then I saw 11-million subs. All I could do at that point is sigh. . .
J Thom because people like drama. And he made the video looks dramatic, even though there's nothing dramatic about it.
Dave also has a much smoother voice
What will happen if everybody starts using this same template?
UnboxTherapy also tries to amuse us and I am always having fun, I'm not such a tech geek and this channel makes it more interesting for me so...just different styles. I mean I am sure that he can stop all the jokes and be straight forward and so on, and I am also sure that he will loose half of his audience.
Hyperbolized agree on that. It's just a different style of getting information out.
Everyone just linked to Dave's video... Louis went one step ahead and simply summoned him 🤣😊
they are both in toronto.
*bites finger, unravels scroll*
Lew Uzumaki: KUCHIYOSENO JUTSU D2D HAA!!
Yu-Gi-Oh!
My turn.
I summon "The Mighty Dave" in attack position.
I end my turn.
Devashish Katoriya 😂
Lou, why are you feeding words into Dave's mouth? Let him speak for himself. I thought you are a TH-camr, not some biased journalist from Fox News.
Fox is not biased they like Dave actually know what real reporters are supposed to be research the facts then report unlike the hate mongers on CNN,NBC,ABC especially the racist women on the view and awful shows like morning joke ugh I mean Joe and the rest
John Hoffmann I'm sorry man, your comment had too many syntax errors for me to process.
Akira Sah lul Fox is biased and so is cnn msnbc all of them.. but this comment shows your bias
You spelled CNN incorrectly.
Uh-oh...conservative is triggered...alert!alert!...I am gender No. 1 is a conservative...shame!shame!...alert!alert!
Is there a way 2 mute the over acting dork ?
Absolutely. Just don't watch his videos. Simple.
He is entertaining to me, but if you don't like him, go away. There is so much choice on TH-cam.
I love him. Very esthetic. 🥴
Dude. Lew. Let the guy finish his thought before interrupting him. You're the person conducted the interview. Not the person being interviewed. Let Dave finish what he's about to say.
Dave: (Gotta carefully choose my words since people take seriously everything I say)
Lew: You called it hot garbage
Dave: No I didn't
Lew: Yeah (but you didn't say it's good so) in other words you did
This is way too edited. A loaded subject needs a decent and objective video and response. All I got from this was a heavily edited 6.30 with mainly Lou speaking (respect I love your videos). This deserves a 10 min video of Dave going through the process. I work in film and know the power of an edit and this video leaves as many questions as it answers. Dave seems hurried and the cuts and edits seem to dilute the content tbh.
Dave is a humble dude
Apple probably threatened to kill Dave Lee's family so Unbox Therapy is trying to defuse the situation. GG
ThePeoplesChamp it is not because they already done it if they planned to
😂
ThePeoplesChamp Heh, *diffuse* the situation
Really?
lmao!
I think Lew was throttling Dave the entire video.... poor dude looked so uncomfortable haha
Dave looks so uncomfortable and annoyed
Yeah. Cuz Lew is trying to get him exaggerate the problem and ..you know
Lew was being a dick
Dave, don't be intimidated bro. Keep being objective. The consumers need it.
The dynamics of body language of these two is interesting. The guy in the cap is overbearing , disruptive to the point where Dave is bending away.
Is this a Apple strong arming their opinion onto Dave? Seems like it...
Apple's solution to this problem is to double the price and double the throttling
Veridian Slap on a New color. Boom extra 1000$
Samal Sachin Lol, next year they are just gonna be like, "whats this sticky paste , "Sir thats the thermal paste for the i9"..."lmao lets just use bubble gum"
Samal Sachin 👏👏😂😂👍
Seems like u dont know apple. They double the price and triple the heat
Veridian
double price = double throttling
Simple math dude why don't you understand very exclusive apple feature
Shut up bro let him talk
i know right, i get a headache just trying to listen for 10 seconds
It was a joke.
Come on lew, Dave is a fantastic reviewer and you're just being disrespectful, I'm not mad at you and i love unbox therapy but at least treat your guests properly....
Dave, don't get discouraged! Don't feel bad! You did the very right thing. Without you, the bug would still be there and Apple wouldn't have cared. Thank you!
🤣 Dave was afraid to say the wrong things on UNBOXTHERAPY ....
willmatic 84 He was nervous as fuckk in the beginning 😂
Hi
cuz deve doesnt edit this video
Better be safe than create a scene
Tot he was bout to cry hahaha
Why do I feel like Dave just wants his bearded friend to shut up?
i can't watch it with that camera angle, something is really weird about it.
This video shows perfect how Lew will say anything to piss people off and get dramatic responses out of people. When he’s next to Dave who is balanced and thoughtful in his opinions and views, lew looks like a whiny 8 year old who only complains and doesn’t look at things objectively
Charlie Dickinson two different personalities in one room. What do you expect? Lew is a big kid who is obsessed with tech and Dave is a more laid back relaxed techy. They both are good at what they do and honest but they're different people with different ways of expressing themselves
Charlie Dickinson You are 100% correct.
I am not a master of body language, but you can tell he was annoyed by lew, his torso and arms were leaning away from him the whole video and thay's not a good sign....
will 1 this whole video was cringy because of Lew’s actions and interruptions starting with introducing Dave. You could tell Dave was uncomfortable. That’s not how you make guests on your channel feel welcome.
will 1 lol of they were any closer they'd be on Brokeback Mountain! 😂 The intimacy was real. A bit *too real* but I don't know if he dislikes him per se.
Yup
Thermal throttling would of helped in this situation
he's no homo
Unbox Therapy made it painfully obvious which reviewers were skewed towards Apple and who were the bandwagon haters and which guy on TH-cam was trying to objectively see the device that Apple put out. Seriously youtubers who have been anti-Dave 2d have no credibility in my eyes now.
Personally I think Dave took it too personally. Scientifically speaking, there's always going to be people who try to disprove you. That doesn't make them bad people. Everything we know about how the world works, people are constantly trying to disprove it, or change it to something else. It's called perspective/knowledge improvement. Same applies in this case. MKBHD and Morrison aren't bad reviewers, rather, just people who made the picture painted by Dave a little bigger. On Morrison's side, quite a bit bigger, because he had A LOT more data to work with. He never called Dave a liar or even anything close. He just used more data to show how the throttling affects people in different ways. But what Morrison and MKBHD was important, because it helped to show how footage from specific cameras, and how different specific pieces of software handled themselves. It's not only important for the user to know if the machine is right for their own usage scenario, but for Apple and the Software Engineers to actually release patches to better optimize the software.
Now, anyone hating on Apple for thermal throttling, here's a reality check. Every laptop throttles under load. I have a THICK laptop from 2016 with an i7 6700HQ paired with a 960M 4GB graphics card and 16GB 1600MHz DDR3L RAM (in fact, the same laptop that Dave2D, as well as every other channel have been raving about all over youtube - the Dell 7559 fully upgraded including WD Blue m.2 SSD 500GB and Intel 8250 Wifi). I ran cinebench on it, and you know what? The i7 6700HQ is outperformed by an i7 2600 desktop CPU which is now 7 years old, paired with 8GB DDR3 RAM - purely thanks to the fact that the i7 7600HQ throttles. Heavily. I've ordered a 1050 Ti LP for the machine which contains an i7 2600 (An HP Elite 8200 SFF) and it'll be even more powerful than a 2016 gaming laptop. By far. Despite the laptop being 5 years newer.
tansteel this video clearly demonstrates the host is a salesman for apple.
G B - I'll have to disagree with you about Morrison, I watched his videos. The pre-patch video he basically called Dave a liar, the clip was in this video, he just did it in a nice way. His first video concentrated only on the times it took for the laptop to to the tasks, not if the laptop was throttling or anything about the thermal issues. Dave's entire video was about how the i9 has a fundamental problem, not about the time it took to do something. Most of the people who made videos defending Apple failed to see this. Morrison's post patch videos did show the thermal issues with the laptop, and by his emission because people were complaining that he didn't show them in the first video.
I would say these videos people produce are not only important for someone to see if the product is right for their particular use, but also to see if the product is worth the money you spend on it. Even post patch the i9 can barely hold base clock under a sustained load, to me this is unacceptable and not worth the money you would spend on it. The patch that Apple released as far as my research can tell didn't optimize the software, it fixed their mistake of allowing too much voltage to going to the processor. It looks like they allow just enough voltage to keep the processor at base speeds while keeping it from thermal throttling.
All hardware in computers is controlled by software, design/hardware flaws can be masked by software.
Yes all CPUs thermal throttle if you go by the fact they cannot max frequency under a sustained load. I have a four year old HP that will hold 688 mhz over base clock under a load ( 100 % ). Throttled from the 3.2 max?, yes, thermal throttled?, no, runs about 85 C. I've seen in videos where the i9 is hitting 95 C at 20% utilization, this is not a heavy load, and to me unacceptable.
The main issue is these companies are shoving powerful CPUs/GPUs into a small form factor while providing insufficient cooling which more than likely shorten the lifespan of the product, and effect the performance of the product, while at the same time selling the product as this production powerhouse enticing people to pay a premium for a product that will not hold up under scrutiny. Apple is one of the worst offenders of this. The attitude of "I know it throttles ( and I'm not getting what I paid for ) but it is still faster than last years" will eventually wear of and people will get sick of it. People buying and supporting this practice only helps the companies bottom line and keeps them from improving/fixing the defects of the product. Every year the product should get better, not worse, or stay the same. Macbook Pros have had thermal issues for years now, some sort of solution should have been worked out by now, but why do it when people are still buying and supporting the product.
wuerger 32 Best reply here yet and spot on. Anyone trying to deny throttling needs to find a new hobby because anyone who thinkers with computers will find the evidence of that after just a couple tests. Like you said, thermal throttling is more common than not in laptops (Turbo Boosts have a time out window for a reason).
Dave’s video was honest. There’s a difference between not expecting a CPU to throttle vs when a cpu is underperforming within a wide window of what’s expected.
The fact that Apple fixed this so quickly with the patch is proof that they had to rework their normal MacBook power management for these 2018 Pros. They are all right in line with what’s expected now. There’s a lot of things you can complain about these laptops (price, keyboard, dongle life) but shitty cpu performance isn’t one of them. Not after the patch.
Dave so humble. this guy one of the best tech reviewer on youtube
Dave seems so annoyed by Lew and I don't blame him haha. Lew was a bit obnoxious today. Great video though!
Yeah Introducing him like an asshole.
Lou is always obnoxious lol in every video he makes. It's his thing
I don't know if you live under a rock or something but this is how social creatures like humans interact. Trying to be a bit entertaining and gradually developing the idea of the video, not like 2 robots who exchange bits and bytes of digital 1s and 0s. And Dave looks more nervous than annoyed, and understandably so... ~~Hail corporate~~
Thumbs down for the aweful interview! D2D hardly got to express himself, even he looks annoyed.
Wait a second. It's not that Lew interrupts him. It's that D2D can't express himself.
Am i the only one that would be okay with a thicker Macbook Pro with proper cooling? I make tech videos everyday, so heavy workload is a must for me!
10BestOnes definitely! But apple wants to keep the thinness of their MacBooks so I don't see that happening in the near future
All of this wouldn't be a problem if they made it thicker and made the fans faster but they want it to be silent and thin asf.
there is a machine (it's called any windows professional laptop )
10BestOnes and more ports
10BestOnes I am down
Hi, I am new to this channel, and been watching your videos for like 2 days, and so far I loved ur every video.
This one seemed a little awkward. I felt some kind of bullying tension, as if u were jealous that apple contacted and acknowledged him and not you, lol.
If u called him to your channel as a guest and he was kind enough to accept your invitation, then let him speak for once. He is obviously smart and knows a couple of things, but you kept interrupting him and didn’t let him say what he had to say. What a garbage video, and u should work on your interviewing/communication skills.
He's just embarrassing Dave in the whole process! wth!!!
these two should never make a video again, lou is too animated for someone like Dave lol - zero chemistry.
Personal Experience: I tested a red iPhone 7's water resistance within the IP67 limit and the i7 failed the test, I contacted Apple in Taiwan and they never admitted that they produced a faulty phone. I later got in contact with the government to solve this issue. Apple was supposed to rest this case with me in person and they canceled the meeting 3 times because they "had meetings". In the end I sold the faulty i7 for 1/3 of the price that I bought for. Maybe try to invest more in your customer service and not behave like an amateur, Apple?
If Apple thinks it's ok to let down a customer because she told the truth, then I have nothing good to say about them.
OnePlus (smaller company) does even have a better customer service than Apple. I my opinion Apple's reputation is declining every year after the death of Steve Jobs
Aiden tf OnePlus clearly exceeds apple
Gillege “ok google, get me directions to the nearest oneplus service center.”
Google: here’s the directions. (12,577km 11d 9hr by car)
Aiden haha yes that's true but they are putting in more work to make their consumers satisfied.
藍諾Eleanor Jiang go for android, better for other countries outside the US anyways
Thank you for not forcing this to be over 10 minutes.
I think the reason Dave seems uncomfortable here, is that he doesn't want anything to slip out of his mouth that he dint say in the first place , which could put him in a judicially dangerous position or somethin
Ajay N everyone has the right to an opinion especially critics and reviewers. You can’t slander a product.
Exactly. And Lew is just so happy to see this.
Villainous foreigner you can be sued for defaming a product.
Lew always puts people in uncomfortable situations
The Donald Trump of TH-cam. lol
VincentG991he just graps people by the pus🐈y
Let him *talk*
mille bobby brown
What are my thoughts? I think you were extremely rude to your guest, and before you even discuss about the laptops, you should learn how to treat others with respect. This is what happens when an honest and brave individual makes a video of his honest opinion on products of big companies. Dave does his very best so that the customers who aren’t experts at tech like myself can make better decisions. We appreciate you Dave. Keep going! :)
Dude what’s with the over talking and the editing my gosh 🚫🛑✋
ExamDad gotta get that ad revenue
Apple:This time with the 2020 macbook pro we have decided to include a fridge with macbook pro which would speed the macbook pro performance by 45% and the fridge costs 1000 dollars.
Customer:meh,1000 dollars for a fridge,
Manish Kitawat u sound really immature
$1000 for a fridge? That is fucking cheap for a fridge. My Samsung fridge costed me about $3k lol.
he talks to much like what is the purpose of the guest? next time be mindful of your words too.
Min Penguinkookie yeah, Louis seems like such an ass.
Exactly, he talks too much... Dave didn't get time to explain anything 😒😤😤
the hell is wrong with the interviewer? is he on something or what?
That's called confidence.
@@enthused7591 No, it's not. It's called arrogance and disrespect
thought you interviewing him but you end up doing all the talk and took the spotlight. Shame, dave is smart and i want to hear more of his insight regarding this but you just throwing all unfunny slapstick joke. While he's feeling awkward with your namecalling.
ichisuke ryu yeah, that guy seems like such a dick.
You can go to Dave's channel then. I'm just glad for the shout out. Dave deserves more subscribers.
Xvn Alex You should know that they both are great friends. Dave is distancing himself so they wouldn't touch each other because that would be gay.
i like how dave is literally sitting on the edge of his chair. dude you're making him uncomfortable. cool vid though.
I think Dave was very honest and brave. Apple was snart to reach out to hin. They knew he waa right.
What is your comment dictated but not read?
Very snart
Snart comment
*S N A R T*
Flojoe6274 did you lose the M key
macbook price is not justified, worst experience for CAD softwares i hope they will improve.
Camown let the guy talk! And u're over reacting dude.
While I respect MKBHD, he's got a certain fan base he needs to pander to and he doesn't openly discuss issues with Apple products too often. And that other guy, he is just a shill thru and thru.
Element7 he is so biased in his phone reviews
He does not want to get banned by Apple. I think U box Therapy is banned by all things Apple.
mkbhd is an apple fanboy
jigee boy Nah, he just likes Final Cut. He prefers Android over iOS, and typically favours Google products (see Homepod review)
Getting blacklisted by Apple is tech suicide. Getting an invite to an Apple event is a huge deal.
Stop cutting dave off, LEW !!!
I agree!
He's an apple cultist... Gotta grill the infidels on open flame!
Why so much wide angle lens?
You throw him out of the frame.
Look at his hand! Do you have basic manner?
I honestly think he does not.
Poor Dave
Justin Y. Do a face reveal video
Poor you. Dave is far richer than you'll ever be.
dude i just saw your comment like 10 mins ago from a another vid....wtf?!?!?!?
Justin Y., HERE YOU ARE AGAIN. I HAVENT SEEN YOU IN A MONTH. BY THE WAY, WHY ARE YOU HERE?!
Seriously, stop
Dave is famous now...
Sumit Bishnoi Swear
He deserves it.
Thavisup T Very true he makes pretty good content
Yup he deserves more sub..
He already was
As an apple user, Apple messing all their products up 😑
SSJ James thank u for the truth
Now we call it apple pie
Reflex apple is not for everyone, dude. It's not their fault you're too poor.
SSJ James grow up get a galaxy
Thx for the truth
You need to let him talk dude.