Trump and Conservatism - Constitution Day Celebration
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- Hillsdale College President Larry P. Arnn, National Review Senior Editor Jonah Goldberg, and Professor of Political Science John Marini discuss presidential candidate Donald J. Trump's role in conservatism in America.
Hillsdale College's annual Constitution Day event celebrates the signing of the United States Constitution with lectures and panel discussions about the history of the Constitution and constitutional issues facing the nation today. The 2016 event featured U.S. Senator from Alabama Jeff Sessions, Larry P. Arnn, Jonah Goldberg, John Marini, Todd Huizinga, Ronald J. Pestritto, Bradley Watson, F.H. Buckley, and Terry M. Moe.
Watch more from Hillsdale's Constitution Day Celebration at constitutionda...
I wonder if one of these speakers in the middle has changed his mind on the President. He truly has done wonderful things.
Dr. Marini gave the best explanation, and justification, for the rise of Mr. Trump I have ever heard. It was close to what I would say if I was that articulate, and clear thinking. Mr. Goldberg's argument sounds more like a personal vendetta to me -- something to do with ego.
totally agree, and I add that the Hillsdale President ALSO did a most fantastic job of elucidating truth about Trump.
de0den Personal vendetta? Are you kidding? It's quite the opposite. Goldberg cares passionately about constitutional principles. That's priority one for him. While Donald Trump, with his stated belief in affirmative-action, anti-trade tariffs, "opening up these libel laws," publicly funded health care, paid maternity leave, etc, is resolutely ANTI-Constitution.
True that Sir
Exactly
Jonah Goldberg is blinded by his own bias... not very becoming of a conservative...
It’s pretty great listening to this in fall of 2019. Glad Jonah was wrong
Right? Right. He was as wrong as all leftists who hate Trump because he put a break on Obamas “fundamental transformation of America.”
Don't like Jonah Goldberg.
Donald Trump is a salesperson, a negotiator…he is needed more now than when he was, serving his 4 year mandate at that time.
Goldberg’s talk did not age well for him 😂 Trump killed it, and was definitely a champion against political correctness
Under Donald Trump /Joe Biden/shemale Barrack drone Killer Obama..the Selling of Land by Washington County And Tax Office April and Surveyor Scott Young for Mass Foreclosure and Auctions for No One Matters But Thiefs ..welcome to Washington County Auctioning Your House For Mass Profit....your 911 service doesnt work..your dying..beaten cops do not come..they see thief and can arrest them but instead the thief, is praised great job for stealing evidence on land theft..like loved by evil neighbors and crimes honored by crime Trump family Washington County...Zack Morton n Scott Young.. with two phones they stole for evidence was massive gone..google ziply helping keep me from getting income ..with my mortgage paerwork stolen for cops who asked for pin on phones.
Google errased my evidence on both phones. Plus i was beaten bloody knee by thief cops wont come
.TED CRUZ in on this with Ron Johnson and Mitch Mconnell. Waste bankrupt your profitting evil jerks
9
9
9
9
Sorry Jonah but Trump won & my retirement has not only regained what it lost thanks to Bush & Obama but it has DOUBLED. My home's value finally got back to where it was before the crash as of this month. He may be simplistic, not very educated but so far what he's doing with North Korea is working, what he's doing with Germany is working, what he's doing with Mexico is working. The only reason that we still have Obamacare is because of the RINOs, the only reason we didn't get immigration reform is because of the Democrats. Is Trump perfect? Heck no but, he's a good start at getting rid of Obama's many failed executive orders & policies. We have to start somewhere and Trump is great at taking the abuse that no one else we had up there would have withstood. I wanted Rand Paul as POTUS & Ted Cruz as VP, couldn't get that because neither of those two would be able to put their iron clad ideas aside & work together. Look at all of the presidential in speech, in appearance, etc but ya gotta give him some credit, at least we don't have Clinton, that's not much but it's definitely something & it's obvious that no one else was going to be able to do that if they couldn't beat Trump.
Jonah Goldberg is missing a tremendous point,the default position of government is growth,so there is nothing to conserve .Things have to be cut and eliminated.
i like jonah, he's very bright, in general has great instincts and insight...but he was so wrong about trump, and i'm glad of it...
Finally, in Jonah, we hear from someone who is a Republican who seen Donald Trump for what he was and not afraid to say it.
I wonder what Jonah Goldberg thinks now after 3 years of President Trump.
Goldberg was wrong on a lot of Trump's admin...but I'm not convinced he would admit it.
Why did Larry Arn got the chance to LEARN about Trump, looked at who he is and what does he stands for but Jonah thought he is so smart he knows everything because he thinks he does. His hatred for Trump clouded his vision. All he predicted Trump would do was WRONG!!!
I wish Hillsdale offered an online academic transfer Associates's Degree, so many more students could get the quality foundation they offer before finishing at a state school. It would offer a good alternative to the leftist indoctrination and innoculate students to what indoctrination they would find as they continue their education.
To Mr Goldberg, being intellectual and philosophical is not requisite for a great public servant or a successful, great leader for the good of the people. Next, five years later, can you deny Trump’s intention of keeping his promises? And he has a lot more of supporters five years later now. Do you think a fake could have accomplished that? Also, listening to experts is a good trait for a good leader, not a bad one. I happen to think Trump does not do enough of it.
Larry Arnn is a great man. Liked John Marini a lot. Goldberg is Goldberg.
I love John Marini and Larry Arnn is an exceptional man...
Middle guy, ego, and wrong. Respect for #1 & #3. Trump is best president ever!
I will take Trump's three marriages of love over one marriage of the Clintons. I don't think I should remind anyone what that marriage is all about.
@Marina Hoffman you mean adultery is better than honoring one's marital vows for better or for worse ?
Now you see the simple fact that he’s never been elected to service before is exactly why I vote for him as well as the fact that I agree with his policies too. But never holding elected office that’s a bonus in my opinion
This is a College.
So, may I suggest a philosophy book that may be interesting to all here? “The Myth of Religious Neutrality: An Essay on the Hidden Role of Religious Belief in Theories” by Prof. Roy Clouser Ph.D.
***Goldberg is still Pouting*** right?
I sounded like the anti trump guy until he was the only choice other than Hillary. And then I got to see Trump as president. I mean, it's because of him that we are living in a post Roe v Wade America. I hope this guy has changed his mind. Trump was the people's champion
It's amazing how clueless these intellectuals were when the vast majority of Americans saw exactly what was going on and said "therefore Trump." It sure doesn't make the guy look like an idiot now.
.....and now the Democrats are running the show. Ugh--
2016....very old stuffffffff!!!
Goldberg came out and endorsed Romney thirteen days after he lost South Carolina to Newt Gingrich. Here is a quote from his 2/3/12 article:
Even if Romney is a Potemkin conservative (a claim I think has merit but is also exaggerated), there is an instrumental case to be made for him: It is better to have a president who owes you than to have one who claims to own you.
Read more at: www.nationalreview.com/article/290033
Now remember, Romney is the same guy who lost Iowa to a man with no money.
Lecture starts at 2:58
i like a ta party which did nothing but make large trashpiles but dont like the best economy ever be cause it dos not talk like i do
I think your a hundred percent right say what you think and believe . It's not right to go along with everyone's plan . Unless you are truly believe . Anthony Douglas Boutin freemason,. ps . Put the country and people first
The reason trump did so well is that conservatives are tired of weakness and loosing. If better grounded conservatives were better at strength and winning, trump would not have a chance.
The rules of laws but then he himself violate every rules of laws there wasn't any thing he didn't want to uphold . He will violate every laws if he gets a chance
It's pretty obvious that Jonah Goldberg has a personal resentment with Trump for whatever reason. He's trying to play it off as it's Trump's lack of intelligence, but it's a person thing.
Exactly !!!!! Goldberg's thinking and arguments are that twisted - like a child pulling a tantrum!
Something I've noticed is that many Jews like Goldberg have a neurotic hatred for Trump for some reason
Luke van der Hoff And something I've noticed is that Donald Trump's candidacy has flushed a lot of America's Jew haters to the surface. Didn't know there were so many of you folks left.
Trump said to be in Prophesy Our Trumpet to drain The Swamp
fire yrs ago
No
Constitution that is the best Protection
Restore our constitution people its our protection
Sorry if I seemed a little tired in this debate, exhausted from all that sweet collegiate poon I was getting the night before.
Donald Trump. Thank you.
Reagan was very good btw
First speaker killed it! Trump All Day Baby!
How Ya Like me Now 😅
Nope.
I liked the way Goldberg's lie about Trump was debunked by the other speaker simply pulling the Playboy interview up on his laptop and observing that "horrible" is not usually an adjective indicating praise. Goldberg retreated from saying Trump had praised the Communist Chinese over Tiananmen Square to the claim that he'd been insufficiently PC in referring to the protesters as rioters, but this intimate knowledge of the interview merely reveals that Goldberg knew perfectly well that Trump had called what the regime did horrible and was choosing to mislead the audience about what Trump had said. Contrasting strength and weakness, Deng Xiaoping vs Gorbachev (and G.H.W. Bush), is obviously not an endorsement of the former regime in all its aspects, no matter that Goldberg lies about it.
Gandydancer "If he says great things about me, I'm gonna say great things about him." --Donald Trump talking about Vladimir Putin.
Yes, Trump really said this. Look it up. It'll take you maybe 12 seconds. Trump said this about a viscous, evil, murdering dictator.
He did say it. Do you understand it? I feel you are reading too much into what he said. He is talking about a sort of verbal quid pro quo, an exchange of compliments, possibly as a prelude to future negotiations. He is by no means endorsing every action Putin has ever taken.
Nonsense. What if he'd said it about Kim Jong-un of North Korea -- the same exact phrase ("If he says great things about me, I'm gonna say great things about him.") -- would you still be treating it so casually? Be honest.
So maybe I'm not understanding you. You think his comment means he agrees with everything Putin has done?
Of course not. When a leader endorses somebody or speaks well of them, they are not saying "I agree with EVERYTHING that person has done." That's silly. For example, Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher had a terrific diplomatic relationship and respected each other enormously, but each of them, I'm sure, could find things about the other's policies they disagreed with.
...But their OVERALL OPINION of each other was positive.
...So when Trump proclaims about Putin, "If he says great things about me, I'm going to say great things about him" he is saying, in effect, "I may not agree with everything he's done, but I think Putin, overall, is a decent human being."
...Think about it. Could you imagine Harry Truman saying in 1948, "If Stalin says great things about me, I'm going to say great things about him"?
...Or Kennedy saying in 1962, "If Castro say great things about me, I'm going to say great things about him"?
...The question alone is almost laughable.
...But when Trump makes those remarks about a murderous thug dictator, his supporters barely bat an eye.
...At BEST what you'll hear them say about it is, "All right, maybe he shouldn't have said those words -- Trump isn't perfect -- nobody is -- are YOU perfect? -- but what about Hillary Clinton and her blah blah blah blah blah blah..."
...In other words, for Trump's supporters, an insane remark like that is not disqualifying.
...But it should be.
Pp0ki
President Arnn, I LOVE you!!!! You rocked this!!! Standing ovation to you !!! Prof. Marini, your "read" so your delivery was hard to follow, but your words were MAGNIFICENT - so standing ovation to you as well !!!! BOTH of you RAISED my spirits to the point of giving me the feeling of a free eagle flying on a sunny clear day!! And I LOVED each and every rebuttal made by BOTH of you to Goldberg, who seems to have the maturity of understanding of a 2 year old throwing a tantrum !!!! EVERY TIME he made his insane/inane comments each of you raised your bows and shot your arrows bullseye between his eyebrows -- but as he is so full of hot air, your arrows faced no "resistance" so they did not land in his forehead to stay" but instead they pierced right through that head of his to land somewhere FAR BEHIND him, as his points had NO substance !!!! BRAVO to both of you !! A thousand bravos !!! And the points each of you brought up could not have been more essential nor more beautiful. Not only a standing ovation to you both but hugs to both of you, for being BEAUTIFUL MEN of blood and heart as well as brains !!
How immature of Goldberg to mention Trump having a boy/man crush on Putin !!!!!!!!! As President Trump will have to negotiate with Putin just as he will have to with all other world leaders and if he badmouths him, how will that ever be possible? To use yet another analogy about Goldberg besides the ones above about his being full of hot air and a 2 year old having a tantrum, he just kept dropping himself deeper and deeper into a sinkhole of his own making with his many pathetic points - it is only thanks to an actual 3D floor being underneath him that his head still remained ABOVE the table - or his body above the floor - by the end of this!
I am sharing this to my fb page right now, and I will send this link to every u tuber I respect so they can discuss this terrific discussion (informal debate) and give it as much exposure as they can muster!
Too bad this presentation wasn't more widely heard. But it's not too late. I think Hillsdale should promote it.
Jonah hit the nail on the head with this one 👌
And what is your opinion now?
Trump didn't write his own book, Art of the Deal. How do we know he wrote anything?
I am really surprised that Hillsdale gathered a pro-Trump audience.
Now would you be surprised?
Jonah is right on many things about Trump especially Donald's ignorance of the USA Constitution, don't forget during the Florida Cruz tragedy Trump supports red flag laws.
shill alert shill alert
I won't listen to u