This short is an excerpt from my "Music Theory Iceberg" video, which you can watch in full here: • The Music Theory Icebe... Short edited by Rob Goorney
This is the fundamental of electronic music or specifically how they make electronic instruments. Use one cycle of a wave: sine, square, triangle, saw, or complex and then oscillate it to make a note.
@@urnoob5528 youre partly right. It’s just a language, you understand me i understand you. But technically, a cycle can contain many waves or waveforms. I can have a sine wave next to a square wave in a cycle, that’s not 2 cycles, those are 2 waves in one cycle.
@@_shadownotes_ You're right. So many TH-camrs do this to the point that it feels "played out" and I've gotten a bit sick of it tbh, BUT this one was SO well done, it really feels seamless natural. Honestly the best loop I've heard. If everyone did it this well, i migut not be as tired of it lol
@MyUncleWorksForNintendo haha I wouldn't say it was the BEST loop I've ever heard. Personally loops will always annoy me anyway, because for some reason I always hate letting any youtube video reach the end. I guess I feel like it's wasting my time or something.
the artist "Kobaryo" (known mainly in rhythm game communities) has used this to their advantage in the sonf "singularity at 2.64+e6BPM" to make most of the melody entirely out of percussion
yeah, it comes from the flyback transformer inside the tv modulating the electromagnets to bend the electron beam from left to right across the scanlines in a sawtooth-like pattern, moving from left to right and then nearly instantaneously going back to the left, 525 lines per frame in ntsc, 29.97 frames per second and 525*29.97=15734 which is the frequency of the high pitched noise you hear
Why is that good? It only makes you needlessly watch the same video again becasue you did not know it had ended. It's beneficial to creators, not to viewers
Adam Neely has a great talk about this. I think it's called new horizons or something. He talks about how intervals are polyrhythms and it adds a lot of depth to this idea
theres a genre that takes this idea and runs away with it, its called extratone and it sounds pretty nuts. my song recomendation for it would be Aekhloria - Timeless Heresy since its crazy enough with how it uses this concept but is still melodic
*important note: the threshold between what we perceive something to be pulses vs a continuous tone is what defines Low Frequency Oscillations (LFOs), and HIGH Frequency Oscillations (HFOs)
One time, I was on a speedcore gig where the final act increased the bpm so much that it became a note, going higher and higher and eventually reaching the ultrasonic.
nope, it`s not. more the equivalent of light being the same as thermal radiation (it`s not the same, just constisting of the same "ingredient" perceived differently depending on frequency)
It’s not. It’s closer to (but not completely analogous) energy mass equivalence since you can create energy out of mass you just need to convert it. You can convert rhythm into pitch you just need to speed it up.
This gets even more crazy once you realize: harmony = rhythm = pitch 🤫😌 every harmony creates its own rhythm by the individual tension that comes from the single Frequencies within the harmony, the frequency ratio so to speak.
Technically, yes, but only in the fact that they are frequencies. When you're specifying what is commonly understand "rhythm", it more complex than mere frequency.
No. They are Not. Pitch is frequency. Rhythm is a mix of different timings. Slowing down a single note only lowers its frequency. They Are NOT THE SAME.
I just discovered this because of that Jacob Collier video that he created a chord just by tapping his Fingers and increase the frequency to match the Notes pitch
The cool thing about this too is since all audio is waves and therefore rhythms(just really fast of course)- synthesizers and effects nowadays allow for you use the waves of audio clips to modulate any parameters of a synth or an effect. A great example of this is Serum (vst).
Youre right ! Also, dyad (a two note chord, like a power chord) have polyrhythmic rhythm if slowed down enough, like a root note and a third note makes a 3:4 polyrhythm. Really facinating stuff.
Extratone is an entire genre of music built on this concept. Most extratone music has a bpm of 1000 or more and lands on border of sounding like noise and drone music. Hypertone is an even faster genre of music a bpm of at least 1.2 million putting the created tone outside of the range of human hearing, which is then made audible again with “amplification” techniques. (I don’t know exactly what amplification is supposed to mean here.) It often tends to sound even more like noise than extratone, but otherwise they can be very similar.
Fun fact: you can hear that too on...air raid sirens. Since they are basically a fan chopping air really fast, when they slowly slow down and are about to stop, instead of hearing a note you'll hear a flapping noise
Rhythm and pitch are the same thing objectively but not ‘in perception’… as you say. It begs a question: if you can describe what music is, in a completely _observer independent_ way- get it separate from a subjective listener is it still music? ‘In perception’… this phrase, in this case, is not just describing an illusory misunderstanding of objective facts, it is describing the only situation in which these objective facts ‘become’ music: when a conscious listener is present.
Tempo (or "rhythm") is not the same thing as pitch. Pitch refers to 'the speed', not necessarily duration, at which a song, tone, note or piece is played. Tempo is the speed at which an instrument is played. Although this can be confusing to directly understand from the words or semantics alone, it basically means that by practice you may come to find out that changes in pitch to a song will change it's entire rhythm (tempo), but changes in a song's rhythm would not necessarily change the pitch - its tonal and/or harmonic qualities. However, when the sounds of instruments overlap with each other, namely from being played in rapid succession over each other's reverberations, this may have an impact on the harmonic quality, or change someone's perception of 'the pitch', from either the song (e.g. a collection of instruments playing together) or single instrument.
This is precisely how string instruments work. For instance, each string on the piano, when struck by a hammer, begins to shake back and forth very fast, essentially creating a rhythm, But since the rate of reciprocation is so fast, your brain thinks of it as a certain stagnant note (this principle is applied so many places, for instance how we watch videos)... Higher notes are more tight and shorter, which means they shake faster and sound to us as notes with higher pitch.
This is a good perspective, which I really appreciate. But I'd agree if its "pitch = vibration". From my understanding, rhythm is more of a "pattern/combination of different note lengths" instead of "repetition of one single note length".
Any regular repeating rhythm will become pitch if sped up, but it is easiest to demonstrate with a simple pulse. And a pulse is best described really as a rhythm rather than a tempo.
@@DavidBennettPiano Yes, pulse is a rhythm, but tempo of it is what makes the pitch, and not the rhythmic pattern of it. Changing the rhytmic pattern would modulate the timbre... (but whatever, even with the imprecise word, the demonstration shows clearly what you meant...
So drummers can play notes. They're just not trying hard enough. 🥁
*beats drummer with a keyboard*
“You’ve been lying to me!!!”
1 million bpm
💀
Spinal Tap drummers have tried. 🔥
Of course they can play notes. that's why they have many drums tuned to different ... notes.
This is the fundamental of electronic music or specifically how they make electronic instruments. Use one cycle of a wave: sine, square, triangle, saw, or complex and then oscillate it to make a note.
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bruh wdym one cycle
one cycle of wave oscillate = wave
cant u just say wave ffs
@@urnoob5528 youre partly right. It’s just a language, you understand me i understand you.
But technically, a cycle can contain many waves or waveforms. I can have a sine wave next to a square wave in a cycle, that’s not 2 cycles, those are 2 waves in one cycle.
I was gonna say, the ending sounds like it's building up to be a fat drop
I expected the THX sound effect at one point
I personally thought it would turn into a Geiger counter.
Serum has a preset of this!
Tru
same😂
Right???
The beating of insect wings sounding like a buzz or hum.
That's beautiful
Gradually increase tempo. Swedish house mafia “one” instantly assaults my brain.
That was my immediate thought. Half expected it to play.
Glad im not the only one
I like this song
Yasssss, it was driving me insane thinking which song had this exact thing as the opening. One.
This loop is hella smooth
On hood
Not really. Everybody does the stupid "because...." at the end of all of these videos. You could literally do it for anything.
@@_shadownotes_ it's about the transition delay. It was so short as to nonexistent.
@@_shadownotes_ You're right. So many TH-camrs do this to the point that it feels "played out" and I've gotten a bit sick of it tbh, BUT this one was SO well done, it really feels seamless natural. Honestly the best loop I've heard. If everyone did it this well, i migut not be as tired of it lol
@MyUncleWorksForNintendo haha I wouldn't say it was the BEST loop I've ever heard. Personally loops will always annoy me anyway, because for some reason I always hate letting any youtube video reach the end. I guess I feel like it's wasting my time or something.
And if you increase the speed even more, you can start to see the light coming out , waving through all colors
well, no
Electromagnetic radiation aka light is not the same thing as sound so no
@@masoncamera273I bet you’re fun at parties
Right about now! The funk soul brother.
check it out now! the funk soul brother.
Good days playing fifa
Kraftwerk writing out a copyright claim as we speak.
geiger counter 😎
ye and later used by Chemical Bros and Aphex Twin and others
The intro to One by SHM brought me to this realization
That kick drum pulse ramping up was one of the most uncomfortable sensations I've felt in a long while.
When you increased the tempo of the beat you unintentionally recreated the beginning of death grips hot head
I was just thinking it sounded like Hustle Bones!
I was already really digging this and then the perfect loop just put the cherry on top
The audio will form a nice clean note if you loop the video at a high enough speed.
the artist "Kobaryo" (known mainly in rhythm game communities) has used this to their advantage in the sonf "singularity at 2.64+e6BPM" to make most of the melody entirely out of percussion
So the high pitch buzz that comes from old televisions is just a really fast pulse
yeah, it comes from the flyback transformer inside the tv modulating the electromagnets to bend the electron beam from left to right across the scanlines in a sawtooth-like pattern, moving from left to right and then nearly instantaneously going back to the left, 525 lines per frame in ntsc, 29.97 frames per second and 525*29.97=15734 which is the frequency of the high pitched noise you hear
Can we take a moment to appreciate how seamlessly the short repeats? Props in the editing department
Why is that good? It only makes you needlessly watch the same video again becasue you did not know it had ended. It's beneficial to creators, not to viewers
Yes
It's literally just a cut lmao
Like 90% of tiktoks do this now
It is really seamless and quite clever!
Adam Neely has a great talk about this. I think it's called new horizons or something. He talks about how intervals are polyrhythms and it adds a lot of depth to this idea
I think it's on the Ableton TH-cam channel
Jacob Collier also did a video on this where he did a polyrhythm on his hand and created a B major chord by speeding it up, pretty cool
@@drydryb0nesshortsHate that guy so much
Ok this was actually an eye (or ear?) opener
For real wtf
Yeah fr wtf
When I started out learning to tune a piano, I would put the palm of my hand against the top of the piano to feel the pulse between two bass notes.
Bro just heard swedish house Mafia and thought...
"wait a minute..."
Glad scientists found a way to use kick drums as a particle accelerator
Swedish house mafia effect!
That was *actually* the smoothest loop ever
This is literally Swedish House Mafia - One
theres a genre that takes this idea and runs away with it, its called extratone and it sounds pretty nuts. my song recomendation for it would be
Aekhloria - Timeless Heresy
since its crazy enough with how it uses this concept but is still melodic
aekhloria is god, also, Singularity at 2.64e+6 bpm by Kobaryo is also pretty good
Swedish house mafia has entered the chat
Do one for chords as well, because those become polyrythms and when Jacob Collier introducted that I was just mindblow. Keep up the great work!
This is actually really awesome. Thanks david
that loop is beautiful.
When a sound is still a sound
*important note: the threshold between what we perceive something to be pulses vs a continuous tone is what defines Low Frequency Oscillations (LFOs), and HIGH Frequency Oscillations (HFOs)
sounds like the intro to Swedish House Mafia - One (Your Name)
That sound tickles my brain
One time, I was on a speedcore gig where the final act increased the bpm so much that it became a note, going higher and higher and eventually reaching the ultrasonic.
That increase in the kick drum speed is so satisfying, like a table tennis ball dropping on the floor and rolling
Perfect Loop, dude!
This is one the only types of shorts that should show up on yt
Simple, informative, and the loop is mmh
This blew my mind. It's like when you throw two magnets at each other and they make that rattle sound
wow. I felt that on my headphones.
that ramp up made my brain itch
That sound effect reminded me of the beginning of Rudebox by Robbie Williams 😅👏👍
I thought it was Lovelight, from the same album
Love the loop, and this was sort of mind opening
thanks didn't know they were the same thing!
The sounds of music really just all depend on the envelops and how the transients are modulated with other frequencies!
WAIT THE CONCLUSION IS BLOWING MY MIND IN THIS PRECISE MOMENT
The tempo speeding up for the drum beat nearly made my brain explode when using headphones.
Listening to this with your headset on is a trip!
Swedish House Mafia-One
This is the physics equivalent of electrons being BOTH particles and a wave.
nope, it`s not.
more the equivalent of light being the same as thermal radiation (it`s not the same, just constisting of the same "ingredient" perceived differently depending on frequency)
It’s not. It’s closer to (but not completely analogous) energy mass equivalence since you can create energy out of mass you just need to convert it. You can convert rhythm into pitch you just need to speed it up.
Did you mean photons?
That study is so great !
love how it goes from normal to a helicopter to just a straight sound
Which song played in your head? Swedish house mafia- one. Or five hours by deorro?
It Sounds Like a Thunderbolt Siren At The End Part
I'm pretty sure this was sampled from swedish house mafia - one.
Aliasing and Nyquist samplimg theorem.
This gets even more crazy once you realize: harmony = rhythm = pitch 🤫😌 every harmony creates its own rhythm by the individual tension that comes from the single Frequencies within the harmony, the frequency ratio so to speak.
Haromy is polyrhythm
this is why i love sampling its so fun to just make your own synths this way
The song pairs beautifully with the sound. An uplifting, yet lonely feeling pulses through every chord. How nostalgic...
Smooth af loop
you've unlocked extra and supertone
that kick drum is also a note that you can slow down to eventually hear a pulse
lets slow things down to infinity 😈😈
I kinda new that but it’s still mind blowing to realize
the pulse speeding up and turning to a pitch is a brain tickling sound
Smile across my face widened gradually as the tempo of the pulse gradually increased, for the first two times of listening to it at least. ☺
Technically, yes, but only in the fact that they are frequencies. When you're specifying what is commonly understand "rhythm", it more complex than mere frequency.
I think i could sleep to that
This makes me want to listen to Floating Points
I mean I knew that kinda, but hearing it in action is really cool!!
of course he has a perfect loop I wouldn't expect less
bro is making extratone☠️
You're absolutely wrong! Pitch is pitch - rhytme is rhythm. All in between is a MODULATION.
No. They are Not.
Pitch is frequency.
Rhythm is a mix of different timings.
Slowing down a single note only lowers its frequency.
They Are NOT THE SAME.
I just discovered this because of that Jacob Collier video that he created a chord just by tapping his Fingers and increase the frequency to match the Notes pitch
many ppl dont know u basically hear nothing at 20hz
much less 10hz or 2hz
wat u hear is actually the harmonics
unironically every ytp when someone slams their desk hard enough:
“See what happens if we gradually increase the tempo of this pulse”
Pulse: *becomes a motorbike*
The cool thing about this too is since all audio is waves and therefore rhythms(just really fast of course)- synthesizers and effects nowadays allow for you use the waves of audio clips to modulate any parameters of a synth or an effect. A great example of this is Serum (vst).
Youre right ! Also, dyad (a two note chord, like a power chord) have polyrhythmic rhythm if slowed down enough, like a root note and a third note makes a 3:4 polyrhythm. Really facinating stuff.
AYOOOOOOO HOLD ON WTF!? I Had Knowledge Of Both Concepts, But NEVER THOUGHT OF CO-RELATING THEM AT ALL! DAMN F*CK! 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯😵😵😵😵😵
this loop is so clean
A more accurate statement would be .. “pitch is a limiting case of rhythm”
Extratone is an entire genre of music built on this concept. Most extratone music has a bpm of 1000 or more and lands on border of sounding like noise and drone music. Hypertone is an even faster genre of music a bpm of at least 1.2 million putting the created tone outside of the range of human hearing, which is then made audible again with “amplification” techniques. (I don’t know exactly what amplification is supposed to mean here.) It often tends to sound even more like noise than extratone, but otherwise they can be very similar.
Fun fact: you can hear that too on...air raid sirens. Since they are basically a fan chopping air really fast, when they slowly slow down and are about to stop, instead of hearing a note you'll hear a flapping noise
My heart nearly died from this one
Did we know this before computers got more powerful in like the 90's?
Obviously yeah
It is not a pulse. It is a sine wave. A pulse has a broad spectrum, with many overtones.
NOOO! THE SINE, ITS EVERYWHERE
And that's how extratone is made.
Pitch is the result of the fact that our hearing doesn't have perfect lossless resolution
Rhythm and pitch are the same thing objectively but not ‘in perception’… as you say. It begs a question: if you can describe what music is, in a completely _observer independent_ way- get it separate from a subjective listener is it still music?
‘In perception’… this phrase, in this case, is not just describing an illusory misunderstanding of objective facts, it is describing the only situation in which these objective facts ‘become’ music: when a conscious listener is present.
This is why engines sound like their getting higher and louder when accelerating. 😊
congratulations, you've just invented extratone
Tempo (or "rhythm") is not the same thing as pitch.
Pitch refers to 'the speed', not necessarily duration, at which a song, tone, note or piece is played.
Tempo is the speed at which an instrument is played.
Although this can be confusing to directly understand from the words or semantics alone, it basically means that by practice you may come to find out that changes in pitch to a song will change it's entire rhythm (tempo), but changes in a song's rhythm would not necessarily change the pitch - its tonal and/or harmonic qualities. However, when the sounds of instruments overlap with each other, namely from being played in rapid succession over each other's reverberations, this may have an impact on the harmonic quality, or change someone's perception of 'the pitch', from either the song (e.g. a collection of instruments playing together) or single instrument.
Mind blowing stuff! 🤯🔥
Yeh nah. The whole concept is that each note is its own frequency. Slowing or speeding it up isn't "that note" anymore. Bloody hippies.
The problem with the title's claim is that rhythm is more than just pulses.
This is precisely how string instruments work. For instance, each string on the piano, when struck by a hammer, begins to shake back and forth very fast, essentially creating a rhythm, But since the rate of reciprocation is so fast, your brain thinks of it as a certain stagnant note (this principle is applied so many places, for instance how we watch videos)...
Higher notes are more tight and shorter, which means they shake faster and sound to us as notes with higher pitch.
don't give the drummers ideas, eventually bands will be only one person if they figure this out
This is a good perspective, which I really appreciate. But I'd agree if its "pitch = vibration". From my understanding, rhythm is more of a "pattern/combination of different note lengths" instead of "repetition of one single note length".
I was waiting for Pharrell to start singing
Pitch and *tempo* (not rhythm) are the same thing. Rhythm is then related to timbre.
I was gonna say this, it should have been tempo!
Any regular repeating rhythm will become pitch if sped up, but it is easiest to demonstrate with a simple pulse. And a pulse is best described really as a rhythm rather than a tempo.
@@DavidBennettPiano Yes, pulse is a rhythm, but tempo of it is what makes the pitch, and not the rhythmic pattern of it. Changing the rhytmic pattern would modulate the timbre... (but whatever, even with the imprecise word, the demonstration shows clearly what you meant...