Grosses me out people keep focusing on her so called "sexy" voice or the quality of it, in the comments on all these videos. Falling into the trap of objectifying her because her voice type. I can see why he chose her as his long term victim.
I don't know why that would gross you out. People are commenting on her voice because it's nice. Not because it solved the case or anything. Plus she's articulate and has been very nice and cooperative, and honest the entire time. Still don't know why anyone would be grossed out by that.
She has a voice. It is sexy. This is a simple, obvious fact, at least amongst folks who find females attractive. Hearing a voice and forming an opinion on its relative sexiness says nothing about anyone's propensity to dehumanize or objectify anyone, using sexy as an adjective when describing someone's voice isn't any different than other adjectives like calming, irritating, shrill, relaxing, etc...
Well said. Kimberley stood her ground. Her license to practice as an APN was threatened by the woman interrogator. “ If I have to make this a DRUG CASE I will”. Totally inappropriate and yielded NOTHING for the case.
At 11 minutes - she’s talking about when he dismembered Samantha. When they returned from the trip, he spent a lot of time in the shed.. ‘working on something’
@@annewanken6288 that's not true. You don't owe cops your phone based on who your ex bf or roommate is. She shouldn't have handed it over to them and offered to do it later
I LOVE her. What she went through with that disgusting Monique Doll was terrible. At least this guy treated her with respect. Kimberly is in shock, I mean, can you even imagine? She reminds me of Melanie Griffith in Working Girl. Does anyone know how she's doing now? I would pay to see a documentary about her and maybe the daughter. What a champ. Go Kim!
Kimberley sounds like a completely different person in this interview, she found her backbone. Good for her laying down the law at the start of this interview. That first interview with detective Doll was so unprofessional. She needs some more training.
I always thought Kimberly knew something was going on. Just the things they found the money etc. After hearing this she did know something wasn’t right, but i think she though IK was selling weed. and She just wanted him to go away due to her license. It does make more sense after hearing her speak.
I knew a guy that ran a sports bar here in Indy about 25 years ago and his 2 daughters were waitresses. Louks was their name. Anyway the youngest daughter was babysitting for a guy named Joe Nowicki and disappeared. He'd been in prison and they raided his house and got him on gun charges so he got sent back and died in prison. Never found the girl and her Dad ODd just s few years later. Weirdest thing is Nowicki got a heart transplant in prison and used it to kill people. They think he killed atleast 2 other people
He actually did very well, that's why he was first the suspect. James frequently set up fundraising schemes and profited highly off Samantha's disappearance. Unfortunately since the Koenig are all heavy drug users that money is probably long gone, just like Samantha.
@@sabrinatscha2554 She's not talking to federal police. And federal police are a hundred times more honest and upfront than local cops like these fucksticjks. And normal people aka innocent people aka people with zero contact with the legal system don't think about lawyers. Ever. Why would they?
She seems very unaware that they need to press her without her referencing her things to rule out the chance that she might try to bend the truth. Her frustration with not having her things during the interrogation is naive as hell.
Also. In the TCBS podcast, we were led to believe the panties and pregnancy test were related to I.K. , when they in fact had nothing to do with him - that was Kim’s stuff and the test was bc she was trying to be discreet about seeing someone else. I got a really icky feeling with this realization. Like really disrespectful to present the information in a podcast like these items could belong to victims and then leave it like a cliffhanger, only to find out this piece of info is really none of our business. So disappointing.
The release of these interviews has been relatively recent, even for TCBS. Prior, that would have been the thought. Most likely, they had a list of things found at the house. Without context, a bag full of panties and maxi pads might seem like a big deal. They've discussed and even somewhat apologized on the podcast that some things they thought were big turned out to be nothing. And sometimes cliffhangers have been left unresolved due to this. All the armchair investigating is silly. Imagine if cops released every detail of an investigation as they learned it in real-time, rather than the usual, "open investigation.. cannot comment..." etc. That's essentially what the podcast is doing.
@@srl7997The podcast is “armchair detecting” just as much. Josh is not a detective nor does he have any Keyes files that aren’t available at large. And this pregtest/panties info wasn’t in any of the files; it was just in these interviews.
@@Veruska75 and that makes you an arm chair arm chair detective, what's your point? Josh doesn't owe you or any of us anything. It's his podcast so he can do as he sees fit. Yup, the info is out there, mostly thanks to TCBS. Have fun becoming a FOIA expert?
haha... she has clearly rehearsed. No problems with specificity in some regards and a complete amnesia in others... defended by a " I have a bad memory" ...You have to be a complete idiot, or just unaware of people like this to believe this nonsense...The burden of truth or evidence is much too large to believe any of this
Note how her tone and emotional disposition never changes throughout the interview, it is actually quite jovial in the most un-jovial of circumstances...she never wavers and shows any emotion either in relations to the extremity of the crimes that she may or may not be involved in...Almost like she knows what has happened already
And remember, Keyes was willing to kill himself to avoid his family knowing anything about is crimes...sounds to me like he was trying to protect somebody that may not have been his child
Ya know what I’d do if there was a missing girl and my ex bf might be involved? DO WHATEVER I COULD TO HELP AND PUT MY EGO ASIDE. Yes, it’s a horrible situation for her but MISSING GIRL. Jeezus.
It’s not her fault. They took advantage of her naivety, and confiscated everything she owns, and left her homeless and without access to money for weeks on end. They also treated her like a suspect, when she clearly knew nothing.
Did you watch the first video? She voluntarily spoke with detectives, and they implicated her using deception, and treated her terribly despite the fact that she was fully cooperating. They took her phone without a warrant and left her without money, clothes, a means of communication, or a place to go because she couldn’t return to her home. She was pleading with them that she had to call into her job to tell them she would not be in, and they basically didn’t care. After that experience, she spoke with professionals who informed her that the police treatment of her was not appropriate. So I am impressed that she came back for this second interview and fully cooperated again, especially after they trashed her house, including scattering her used feminine products all over her garage. But this time, she level-set from the beginning that she would not allow them to mistreat her again. Good for her!
These cops were pissing me off the first interview. From the female decetcive saying she wasn’t being honest, the phone ordeal, and the male cop not understanding why Kimberly would want to make arrangements for work the next day. He was making it seem like she was crazy for being worried to getting her dogs and making it to work. Fuck the police
KIMBERLY 2.0 - YOU GO GIRL!
I am so angry at Monique from the last one. She has no business being such a jerk.
She has a sexy voice.
Good for Kimberly in this interview out the gate honestly. Those cops really botched this with her
If you post a link for like "buy me coffee" in the description box I'd contribute and I bet others would as well for the foia costs...
I definitely would
Definitely but coffee NP
Grosses me out people keep focusing on her so called "sexy" voice or the quality of it, in the comments on all these videos. Falling into the trap of objectifying her because her voice type. I can see why he chose her as his long term victim.
Jelly much?
I don't know why that would gross you out. People are commenting on her voice because it's nice. Not because it solved the case or anything. Plus she's articulate and has been very nice and cooperative, and honest the entire time. Still don't know why anyone would be grossed out by that.
And oh, I bet you would have caught onto him right off the bat, huh? Yeah right. He wouldn't have fooled you😊
She has a voice. It is sexy. This is a simple, obvious fact, at least amongst folks who find females attractive. Hearing a voice and forming an opinion on its relative sexiness says nothing about anyone's propensity to dehumanize or objectify anyone, using sexy as an adjective when describing someone's voice isn't any different than other adjectives like calming, irritating, shrill, relaxing, etc...
@texasd1385 the irony is all of his girlfriends are physically unattractive so a voice looks very different when you're looking at them 😂
0:01 He was so organized committing Crimes and Murder but can’t clean that shit hole.
Thank you for posting these! You’re a gem
Well said. Kimberley stood her ground. Her license to practice as an APN was threatened by the woman interrogator. “ If I have to make this a DRUG CASE I will”. Totally inappropriate and yielded NOTHING for the case.
At 11 minutes - she’s talking about when he dismembered Samantha. When they returned from the trip, he spent a lot of time in the shed.. ‘working on something’
And then at 50:33 he lays out what neither of them were aware of at 11 minutes
She said it was “small job” not that he spent a lot of time…however more telling was her saying “doors or cabinets or something like that”
When he talks about the car getting stuck, he was hiding a cache at the very least, disposing of a body at the very worst.
She has the cutest voice. I feel so bad for her. She seems like an amazing person.
Why did they keep her phone? The paper she signed was void. She should have demanded for her phone back UNTIL they obtained a warrant for it.
Yeah they were such liars about her phone. Left her with nothing and she knew nothing.
They can detain the phone while they wait for the warrant to search it.
@@annewanken6288 thats messed up
@@annewanken6288 that's not true. You don't owe cops your phone based on who your ex bf or roommate is. She shouldn't have handed it over to them and offered to do it later
@@texasd1385 So they can't detain the phone as physical evidence while they get the warrant to search the phone?
These cops certainly don't help themselves.
It's a good thing Kimberly did not get abducted after she was thrown into the streets without a phone, home, wallet, or car.
Her nurse experience is evident here! I’m a nurse too-we love documentation
I LOVE her. What she went through with that disgusting Monique Doll was terrible. At least this guy treated her with respect. Kimberly is in shock, I mean, can you even imagine? She reminds me of Melanie Griffith in Working Girl. Does anyone know how she's doing now? I would pay to see a documentary about her and maybe the daughter. What a champ. Go Kim!
Now that you mentioned it, she even sounds like Melanie Griffin.
I’m glad she’s much more confident in this interview.
I just started following this case, I pray Kimberly is not involved.
This is several years old and she was in no way aware of what he was doing
Man are you in for a forever ride!
You are such a gem for this 🖤🖤🖤
Where did the pictures come from? I am assuming they were evidence photos? I ask because I have poured over this case and never seen these photos.
These are from the APD FIOA I believe
Thank you so much for uploading this! What’s the note at the very end of the video? Is that a note from Samantha to her boyfriend?
When feds take your car and electronics for murder investigation don’t expect it back that night or even that month
The only reason she got anything back was because israel was playing hard-ball with them.
But they shouldn't have lied and said, "oh you will get it right back "
@@marshapieroni6677 You do know that cops can lie, they will say almost anything to further their investigation, right or wrong it’s what they do
The feds didn't take her stuff, a state judge signed the warrant. the cops interviewing her are APD, not feds
Kimberley sounds like a completely different person in this interview, she found her backbone. Good for her laying down the law at the start of this interview. That first interview with detective Doll was so unprofessional. She needs some more training.
I always thought Kimberly knew something was going on. Just the things they found the money etc. After hearing this she did know something wasn’t right, but i think she though IK was selling weed. and She just wanted him to go away due to her license. It does make more sense after hearing her speak.
agree totally
She knew absolutely nothing
Oh God where did the Samantha note come from? Her Dad did not do very well in the aftermath, I can't even imagine how he sleeps.
I knew a guy that ran a sports bar here in Indy about 25 years ago and his 2 daughters were waitresses. Louks was their name. Anyway the youngest daughter was babysitting for a guy named Joe Nowicki and disappeared. He'd been in prison and they raided his house and got him on gun charges so he got sent back and died in prison. Never found the girl and her Dad ODd just s few years later. Weirdest thing is Nowicki got a heart transplant in prison and used it to kill people. They think he killed atleast 2 other people
@@donaldshotts4429So not even a change of hearts changed his heart. Tragic.
He actually did very well, that's why he was first the suspect. James frequently set up fundraising schemes and profited highly off Samantha's disappearance. Unfortunately since the Koenig are all heavy drug users that money is probably long gone, just like Samantha.
Why in the hell did she not ever get an attorney. Just doesn’t make sense
There are still people in the world who think that the federal polices jobs are to protect and serve
She probably couldn’t afford one, she said in the earlier interview she was living paycheck to paycheck.
@@sabrinatscha2554 She's not talking to federal police. And federal police are a hundred times more honest and upfront than local cops like these fucksticjks. And normal people aka innocent people aka people with zero contact with the legal system don't think about lawyers. Ever. Why would they?
Kimberly! Came out swinging with receipts this time. We love to see it.
What is the image of at the beginning with all the bottles on the table?
I assume downstairs in K’s house where he was sleeping? Looks awful.
Downstairs. He was staying there
She sounds all happy and thinks there’s no way Israel could have kidnapped Samantha
She seems very unaware that they need to press her without her referencing her things to rule out the chance that she might try to bend the truth. Her frustration with not having her things during the interrogation is naive as hell.
Well, after the way she was treated in the first interview, she shouldn't have even shown back up
Dude she was concerned about making it to work the next day. Are you the dumb ass cop who couldn’t understand that very simple concept?
Also. In the TCBS podcast, we were led to believe the panties and pregnancy test were related to I.K. , when they in fact had nothing to do with him - that was Kim’s stuff and the test was bc she was trying to be discreet about seeing someone else. I got a really icky feeling with this realization. Like really disrespectful to present the information in a podcast like these items could belong to victims and then leave it like a cliffhanger, only to find out this piece of info is really none of our business. So disappointing.
The release of these interviews has been relatively recent, even for TCBS. Prior, that would have been the thought. Most likely, they had a list of things found at the house. Without context, a bag full of panties and maxi pads might seem like a big deal.
They've discussed and even somewhat apologized on the podcast that some things they thought were big turned out to be nothing. And sometimes cliffhangers have been left unresolved due to this.
All the armchair investigating is silly. Imagine if cops released every detail of an investigation as they learned it in real-time, rather than the usual, "open investigation.. cannot comment..." etc. That's essentially what the podcast is doing.
I know, it really icked me out too. And Josh knew that it had nothing to do with Keyes (or his vasectomy) when he made that episode.
@@srl7997The podcast is “armchair detecting” just as much. Josh is not a detective nor does he have any Keyes files that aren’t available at large. And this pregtest/panties info wasn’t in any of the files; it was just in these interviews.
@@Veruska75 and that makes you an arm chair arm chair detective, what's your point? Josh doesn't owe you or any of us anything. It's his podcast so he can do as he sees fit. Yup, the info is out there, mostly thanks to TCBS. Have fun becoming a FOIA expert?
That dude doing the podcast is trash, imagine trying to make a living off IK, gross
Her voice drives me insane
In a good way or bad way?
I think she has a beautiful voice. Could listen to her all day
@@marshapieroni6677 well that’s creepy
Same here. I can't stand it. 😢
Kimberly come to butthead
This slobby lazy cop can't even imagine putting a tool rack on the bed of a truck by himself. Jesus
This bish gotta sexy voice
I sound like Krusty The Clown
haha... she has clearly rehearsed. No problems with specificity in some regards and a complete amnesia in others... defended by a " I have a bad memory" ...You have to be a complete idiot, or just unaware of people like this to believe this nonsense...The burden of truth or evidence is much too large to believe any of this
Note how her tone and emotional disposition never changes throughout the interview, it is actually quite jovial in the most un-jovial of circumstances...she never wavers and shows any emotion either in relations to the extremity of the crimes that she may or may not be involved in...Almost like she knows what has happened already
And remember, Keyes was willing to kill himself to avoid his family knowing anything about is crimes...sounds to me like he was trying to protect somebody that may not have been his child
Ya know what I’d do if there was a missing girl and my ex bf might be involved? DO WHATEVER I COULD TO HELP AND PUT MY EGO ASIDE. Yes, it’s a horrible situation for her but MISSING GIRL. Jeezus.
It’s not her fault. They took advantage of her naivety, and confiscated everything she owns, and left her homeless and without access to money for weeks on end. They also treated her like a suspect, when she clearly knew nothing.
Did you watch the first video? She voluntarily spoke with detectives, and they implicated her using deception, and treated her terribly despite the fact that she was fully cooperating. They took her phone without a warrant and left her without money, clothes, a means of communication, or a place to go because she couldn’t return to her home. She was pleading with them that she had to call into her job to tell them she would not be in, and they basically didn’t care. After that experience, she spoke with professionals who informed her that the police treatment of her was not appropriate.
So I am impressed that she came back for this second interview and fully cooperated again, especially after they trashed her house, including scattering her used feminine products all over her garage. But this time, she level-set from the beginning that she would not allow them to mistreat her again. Good for her!
She did
She did everything she could. She was treated like sht
She wasnt as stupid as She plays. lm not buying it. She passed a Nursing exam.
She didn’t pretend to be stupid. What are you even talking about?
These cops were pissing me off the first interview. From the female decetcive saying she wasn’t being honest, the phone ordeal, and the male cop not understanding why Kimberly would want to make arrangements for work the next day. He was making it seem like she was crazy for being worried to getting her dogs and making it to work. Fuck the police