The Sounds of English Electric Diesel Locomotives
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- Class 20
Designed around relatively basic technology, the 73-tonne locomotives produce 1,000 horsepower (750 kW) and can operate at up to 75 mph (121 km/h). Designed to work light mixed freight traffic, they have no train heating facilities. Unusually for British designs, the locomotive had a single cab. This caused serious problems with visibility when travelling nose first, though in these circumstances the driver's view is comparable to that on the steam locomotives that the Class 20s replaced. It was common however to find Class 20s paired together at the nose, with their cabs at opposite ends, ensuring that the driver could quite clearly see the road ahead.
Class 31
Construction of the first locomotive was completed in the final week of September 1957, and the handing-over took place on 31 October. The Class 31 entered service in November 1957, after the launch of the Class 20 locomotive and was one of the Pilot Scheme locomotives ordered by British Railways to replace steam traction. They were originally built with Mirrlees JVS12T 1,250 bhp (930 kW) (D5500-D5519) and 1,365 bhp (1,018 kW) engines and Brush electrical equipment, but the engines were not successful and in 1964 D5677 was fitted with an English Electric 12SVT engine (as used in the Class 37) de-rated to 1,470 bhp (1,100 kW). The trial proved successful, and between 1965 and 1969 the entire class was re-engined. The de-rated engine was used as it was the maximum the electrical system could accept.
Class 37
As part of the large scale dieselisation brought about by the British Rail modernisation plan a need was identified for a number of type 3 locomotives of power output 1,500 hp (1,100 kW) to 1,999 hp (1,491 kW). English Electric had already been successful with orders for type 1 and type 4 diesels, and had produced locomotives of similar power for railways in East Africa. A design based on the exported locomotives was put forward and accepted.The design was for a general purpose locomotive and initially found service in British Rail's Eastern Region. British Railways placed an order for 42 Class 37 locomotives in January 1959. The first was delivered in November 1960; it entered service on 2 December. BR had ordered further Class 37s before last of the original batch had been completed in mid-1962. The final locomotive was delivered to the Western Region on 9 November 1965. English Electric split the construction between Vulcan Foundry at Newton-le-Willows, and Robert Stephenson and Hawthorns of Darlington.
Class 40
A total of 200 were built by English Electric between 1958 and 1962. They were numbered D200-D399. They were for a time the pride of the British Rail early diesel fleet. Despite their initial success, by the time the last examples were entering service they were already being replaced on some top-link duties by more powerful locomotives. As they were slowly relegated from express passenger uses, the type found work on secondary passenger and freight services where they worked for many years. The final locomotives ended regular service in 1985. The Class 40 was powered by English Electric's 16SVT MkII engine developing 2,000 bhp (1,460 kW).
Class 50
The origins of the Class 50 lie in an invitation from the British Transport Commission (BTC) to manufacturers to produce a design for a lightweight Type 4 diesel locomotive with a gross power output of at least 2500 hp. In order to produce a prototype quickly, English Electric based their design on that for their Deltic locomotives which were then in production. Unlike the Deltics, this design was powered by a single engine, the 16CSVT.
Class 55
The British Rail Class 55 built in 1961 and 1962 by English Electric for British Rail. They were designed for the high-speed express passenger services on the East Coast Main Line (ECML) between Edinburgh and London King's Cross. They gained the name "Deltic" from the prototype locomotive, DP1 Deltic . which in turn was named after its Napier Deltic power units.
I have included Class 56s as the engine in these locomotives are derived from the Class 50 engines; When introduced, the Class 56s were arguably the first of the "second generation" of UK diesel locomotives.
The engine is a direct descendant of English Electric CSVT types, its closest relative being the 16CSVT used in the Class 50. Technical advances included significantly uprated turbochargers, gear driven camshafts in place of the timing chain used on Class 50s, and uprated cylinder heads, fuel pumps and injectors. The engine was nominally rated at 3,520 hp (2,620 kW), but was set at 3,250 hp (2,420 kW) for rail use.
I grew up in a house 100 metres from a track and sidings. As a child these sounds were the background to my days and the lullaby that I slept to at night. Strangely relaxing.
My childhood bedroom window over looked a junction , woodhead class 76 electrics one way and class's 20 31 37 45 47 56 storming up the bank to a colliery the other way .
I always liked the ringing of a steam loco big end when there was a bit of play developing in the bearing and the loco was coasting. Very musical
Me too, near coal sidings.
Watching this makes feel very nostalgic and also sad. Growing up as a kid in the 70's I lived in a town on the outskirts of Nottingham, there were lots of railways around my house both mainline and freight, Toton sidings ( really sad seeing how that place is a shadow of it's self) being not far away, as well as Derby works etc. These old engines were a common site and I'd save up and buy a ticket where you could travel all over the place unlimited for a week (off peak) in school holidays: me and my mates would go everywhere, train spotting and causing minor trouble. Guess I feel sad as these diesels were part of my youth, and most are long gone, as is BR and I'm getting old.
Waffled on there, nice to see a lot of young lads in these films and despite the sadness it was good hearing the sound of these very evocative diesels. Thanks for posting....DA.
What was the name of your town.
Just asking because I went to school up the road from an abandoned railway turned walking trail on the northern edge of Nottinghamshire.
@@crazyjack5646 Long Eaton. We were always playing on and around the railway as kids but in the 70's it was normal. Can think of of only a few big tunnels in the area ... East Leak and one more escapes me but I'm sure there were loads.
Know how you feel! I was a bairn in the 70s and grew up close to Kilwinning station. The 20's 37's and occasional 40's would go by. Yes we also had 25's 26's, 47's too so it was pick a side English Electric or Sulzer! Was a huge fan of the 37's! Miss those days very much.
@@derekporter7658 Aye, glad I'm not the only one. Yes, there's something about a 37 that's just right
There's something about the sound of a 37 being unleashed that cant be beaten for me.
English Electric made superb diesel locomotives, and brilliant military aircraft.
I can always remember the whistling engine noise of the class 20,s coming out of Derby towards Nottingham when i was kid, Always a pair with coal in the wagons on the back, Probably on the way to Ratcliffe on soar power station.
Me too. You could sometimes hear the wagon brakes banging when the arm dropped loose
I must say that as a late 40-something Yank from the Pacific Northwest (that has been a train enthusiast since boyhood), I'm appreciating this look at some classics from across the pond, produced at a time when they were uniquely different from locos produced here in the US, or likely most anywhere else.
I find it a bit ironic that as we continue to be encouraged to celebrate diversity amongst peoples, our creations have regrettably become increasingly rather homogenized and undistinguishable from each other in this contemporary era, losing many of the unique characteristics (or even quirks) that once set them apart. Life may have been more challenging for various groups decades ago, but in other ways, it was a far more interesting time, sensory speaking.
Thanks so much for sharing both the great video, and the text write-ups of each respective class in the description!
In the 1980`s we used to work Loaded Coal trains out of Liverpool docks with Four Class 20`s in multi, the Noise was unbelievable.🚂
Bet it was brilliant.
@@Banjostrings07Productions Yep. Sure was🚆
Stephen Smith is that smiff with 3fs or 4.
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Gotta love classic BR class 20’s ❤️❤️
And the 37s
The beat of the class 56 engine in the distance at full throb... There's not much that can beat that
Proper underrated workhorses- great footage
Absolute belter of a video loved it. Brits who grew up with these engines you know who you are!
Classic English Electric music, could listed to that all day!
Lineside South East me too
Now, i'm not hugely sold on turbo noises, but 20's and 40's cricketings are magnifficent
Them 20's were damned good value for money, good workhorse and sound good too
It was great days taking CHOPPERS to Skeg Vagas. then unknowingly what to go home with?
Hoovers & Cromptons down the south cost awesome, remember Exeter being a nice place to stop-off.
Tractors for me, the best were along the north of wales, & up the middle to Inverness. Absolute quality
Love the sounds of English Electric Locomotives made in the Late 1950s to the Late 1960s ❤❤❤❤
I’m glad this video is nicely proportioned. I’ve seen too many diesel “compilations” that are just 40 minutes of Class 37s with about 5 clips of other locos.
Glad you enjoyed it!
What a fantastic vid! How have I missed this one? Ah, the sounds of my youth. Thank you!
Gotta love the class 37 one of my favourites having said that the class 20 also a fave
I love a good chopper lol
Think everyone does haha
Brilliant. They should have sent a recording of that on voyagers 1 and 2. I don't care what planet you're from that's got to do something for you.
You’ve got that right , we don’t have anything like it on Mars . Love that sound.
Wow!! Music to my ears! Thank you for sharing these English marvels with us. Seeing Corfe Castle in the background was truly wonderful.
I lovet the sound of the class 20!
Awesome - great footage and camera work!
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Class 50's are a bit of an unsung hero in my books, back in the early seventies we had a bunch of them based at Crewe, they were a bit of beast back then and I don't remember us having many issues with them either. One of my all time favourite locos.
Sounds kind of like the ALCOs here in the US, I love it!
Ahh, my childhood sounds, late 70s - 80s. Railway not far from my house, used to hear them roar at night, which did used to freak me out. This could easily be a documentary without no talking on BBC2, the sort that *"Arena"* would've made back in the day.
Great sound quality
Amazing video such beautiful sounds and horns too
Some great footage and acoustics!
Thank you for a great video (and sound) !
You can love them or you can loath them, there's no denying EE built legends and monsters in their time
just how i remerberd it
Love that engine sound,what would we do with out the Diesel engine !
Spectacular compilation, thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Superb compilation..very enjoyable!
Glad you enjoyed it
35:20 When a Deltic becomes a Detroit lol !! :D
Both 2 stroke engines.
31s are English Electric but originally Mirlees. However the “grids” are Ruston/Paxman. I was in Giggleswick widow cleaning on 24 September 1976, the Settle-Carlisle line is about a mile away,and in the distance I could here what sounded to me like a 50 on freight. When the train finally appeared it turned out to be 56001 on its initial test run comprising 24 MGR wagons loaded with coal plus a brake van. One could be forgiven thinking these locos are EE due to the throbbing sound especially on maximum power. Long may the survivors reign!
I'm a bit puzzled as to why The Deltics got a mention as they have Napier Engines.
@@DKS225 deltics have english electric parts fitted.
@@DKS225 All of the Deltics were built at the English Electric Works, Vulcan Foundry, Newton Le Willows.
@@DKS225 Napier diesel were a subsidiary of English Electric.
I thought the Ruston-Paxman engines were based off EE provisional blueprints, sort of EE by proxy, if you like.
Great video my favourite class 50s love the sound off the engines .
Glad you enjoyed
My mum used to have a huge English Electric washing machine with a mangel.... It didn't sound as good as all EE locos do though 😂
I love the Class 37 And 55, such gorgeous locos,
Read your description now, these engines are lot smaller, only 1000hp and that explains why the trains are lot smaller. Love the turbo whine.
No I think you'll find that the engines have a lot more HP than that Google the HP of these engines they are well over 1000HP mate
The only 1000hp loco in here is the Class 20 pal
Um silvo e trabalhar incrível, dá gosto ouvir quando vão em esforço.
Em Portugal ainda existem muitas locomotivas da série 1400 que derivam da classe 20 da BR.
Só existe uma 1800, da classe 50 da BR, em funcionamento, a 1805.
Great tractor thrash many thanks, super video.
Glad you liked it!
Aren't they great...the class 20s used to pull us to Skegness at summer weekends. Via sawley Junction Station
Lovely sound but the class 20s were second most uncomfortable locos for the driver and his mate I felt like going home if our train turned up with 20s on it.
Personally, I prefer the Sulzers, but that may be due to the number of Leicester to st Pancras 45s I’ve travelled behind.
Exact video I was looking for
BRILLIANT compilation, thanks for sharing. Question to any drivers(engineers) out there. 2 examples of class 37s under load from 12 minutes onwards. First example , loads of power from the off for an incredible standing start, second example from 12.38 onwards the power is being dumped on & off to get the load moving or so it seems. Now to the question....is the loco in the 2nd part tripping out OR is the driver doing this on purpose ?? Sidenote ...i've driven a 37 for a day and was never allowed to give it this much 'welly' under load. ps Type 3 were typically 1750 hp which has already probably been pointed out elsewhere in the comments!
I think it was wheel slip
i always thought the class 31 was built by the brush company
They were, originally with Mirrlees Blackstone engines. Retrofitted with English Electric engines in the 1960s. Brush and Mirrlees Blackstone were both Hawker Siddeley group companies.
Fantastic footage!
I'm in love with the Br 37 and the Br 31
Aerodynamic is not a word in dictionary. BTW, awesome sound. I am from India and used to ALCO thrashing, which are slower in RPM and acceleration too. Trains here are way too long.
They sound like a jet engine is inside them 🥰✈️
Now that’s what I call music!
Class 55 Deltics have Napier engines, same firm that made engines for the Hawker Typhoon aircraft also class 31 has Sulzer engines
The Class 55 was built by English Electric and the Class 31 also has English Electric engines, not Sulzer...
my favourite british locomotives:
class 08
class 09
class 20
class 31
class 33
class 37
class 40
class 43
class 50
class 55
For sound, the Westerns mate, lovely, powerful sound
Nearly all of them.
I love the English Electric locos!
Great 😊
Everything is good except the middle of the windshield area is no glass, creating a huge blind spot. Who's goofy idea was that?? =PC=
Dieselsound of Music!
Now that's chugging!!
Anyone else watch this and suddenly, you can smell diesel fumes?
The 56s are my absolut favs!!! Bulldozer Sound
Is best sound
Love that a company called 'English *Electric*' makes diesel powered vehicles.
diesel electric trains use the diesel to power a generator that the powers the wheels
It is kinda surprising ain't it?
Im a train and I approve this video - Choo choo!!
very cool
Very nice turbocharger whistling on those 20s. And good to see clean exhaust. The designers at EE managed to produce good looking machines though 31s are Brush not EE
Yea clean exhaust and a lot of heat haze is good😷👍🏼
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I suppose you could make the argument that they had EE 12SVT engines?
I don't know if anyone else mentioned it in the comments , but the class 31 isn't an English Electric
Its a Brush type 2
EE engine.
Cheery Ho. That looks like Peter Cushing in control of the first locomotive.
Is this the place in Northampton
That no smoking-sign @3:43... Must be british humor
A bit. But we did have separate compartments within carriages for smoking & non smoking :-)
10:00 ... ist is a wrong way ? I thought that normally there is left hand-traffic on the rails in the UK ?
Who doesn't love a charging gargoyle
How old is the Loco @ 6:22 lots of rust on the roof.
Oh, Only about 60 years old.. 😷
Nice channel."thumbs up".
to Correct you Slightly Class 56 Locomotives were Brush/BR/Ruston not English Electric
I would fully lean and flail on 37s
Great video. What causes the characteristic whistle of class 20s and class 40s and are they a similar engine design?
They are both English Electric engines the Class 20 being a V8 and the Class 40 being a V16. The Whistling noise comes from the Turbos.
The turbochargers. I believe the 20 engine is just half of a 40 engine
Which class were referred to as "Hoovers"?
Class 50s because of the sound made by the dynamic brake cooling fan.
1:10 his face is a picture!
To think i hated class 20's as a kid.
What, no 08s ??
This class of locomotive has such a distinctive sound, 942 cubic inch per cylinder is HUGE!!! And a straight block as opposed to the usual V configuration found in most other designs for rail use. The famous 567 cubic Inch per cylinder found in the older EDM's is a short stroke small bore by comparison! I love the sound of these engines! The EMD 567 was later enlarged further to 710 in it's final configuration, but well short of this monster 942 cubic inch size.
Straight block? Those are V-engines too
NOt a fan of the 20 with its clattering 8 SVT, I much prefer the more harmonious Sulzer 6cyl in the Class 25. The Class 37 though for the win!
Class 56's are Ruston Paxman.
Based on the EE 16CSVT though
7:36, is that an ALCO locomotive?
No that’s a class 31
@@Flyingscotsman19_23 in the background
844Steam Fan oh, I don’t know
@@Flyingscotsman19_23 It kind of looks like an RS loco.
844Steam Fan sorry I’m not common with American trains, it does look to be one though
The class 56 (or “grids”) are NOT English Electric...however it’s nice to see and hear them still hard at work!
Their engine is directly descended from the EE 16CSVT - there were buy-outs etc. but the EE DNA remains. It's a shame that neither Electroputere nor BREL could build the remainder of the loco to match EE's prowess (Class 23 excepted of course...) but today's survivors prove that the general principle was sound.
The Electroputere ones were rubbish (56 004 and 56 014 notwithstanding - those two were pretty good!) but were a lot better after rectification. The BREL ones were... fine. Not very efficient, but I know a driver who drove them, and he wouldn't have a bad word said about them. But, yes, they weren't very efficient!
All them Deltics only on one engine, shame for the noise, earth shattering when revving up
Why the whistling sound? Are they also Diesel Turbo engines? I'm sorry for my ignorance but I'm new to trains, but a big fan of diesel locomotives, I grew up by a rail way track and this sound is very familiar 😊👍
Yes, that's the Turbo
Yes that's the turbocharger
Why are two locomotives used for very short trains?
Some routes that they are on may not have a run round and back up incase one has a problem.
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what is trhe reason that the co driver or whatever they called keep looking out of the window and behind?
breeze 147 A duty of the co driver is to ensure that the train is following securely.......also applies to steam firemen, and in BR days.
Showboating mostly
They be lookin to zee if the furrow is straight.
Why do they sound so different from Australian and US locomotives?
I suppose it’s because apart from the Class 55 Deltic they’re all 4 stroke and quite low revving in locomotive terms, also some or all of them are just straight piped with no silencers.
Are some of them changing gear as they accelerate?
Sort of. They're changing the electric current, which makes the engine blip like in a gear change.
What’s with the people flapping their arms out the carriages 🤣🤷♀️, .. good video tho
It was called windmilling I think 😷
HAAHAH😂 each to there own
They are haulage bashers!
@@bonkeydollocks1879 Flailing.
@@peterowbottom1110 windmilling is the other name, depends on what part of the country your from
Class 20,25,37,47 all mega machines british engineering at it finest
4:51 What is smoking and hissing there? A brake that didn't release?
A chemical mixture being sprayed onto the railhead.
It is high pressure water being applied at at 1500 Bar to clean the Rail, before the anti slip is applied from jets in the rear. I was an mpv operator engaged in Railhead treatment.
@@perthdave100 It`s Water.
Are the Deltics originally class 55 later renumbered class 90 ?
If your referring to the D90XX number, that is a pre TOPS system of classifying and numbering locos from the early days of British Rail.
No, the D9000 series number is their pre-TOPS number.
550xx came later.
Class 90s are mid-1980s 25kV AC 110mph electric locos that have nothing to do with Deltics