Did Satoshi run a drug cartel: The Paul Le Roux Story (feat. Evan Ratliff) - Episode 104

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  • Cas Piancey and Bennett Tomlin are joined by Evan Ratliff to discuss Paul Le Roux, an international criminal who some believe may have been Satoshi Nakamoto.
    We also discuss Evan's new podcast Persona, and the similarities between the crimes of Gilbert Chikli and cryptocurrency hacks and scams.
    This video was recorded on October 18th, 2022.
    Read more: cryptocriticscorner.com/2023/...
    Additional episodes mentioned in this episode:
    Episode 6 - Crypto Capital Corp: the quiet billion dollar cryptocurrency scam
    • Crypto Capital Corp: t...
    Episode 94 - A Tale of Two Ponzis: Celsius and Luna, Alex Mashinsky and Do Kwon
    • A Tale of Two Ponzis: ...
    Episode 44 - Poker’s Black Friday (Feat. Jason Bral)
    • Poker's Black Friday (...
    Episode 41 - Craig Steven Wright is a Crier and a Flawed (Individual)
    • Craig Steven Wright is...
    Additional resources:
    Persona podcast
    wondery.com/shows/persona/
    The Mastermind
    www.amazon.com/Mastermind-Dru...
    Vanish for one month
    www.wired.com/2009/11/ff-vani...
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  • @statisticserinokripperino
    @statisticserinokripperino ปีที่แล้ว +17

    "If someone has your number, if someone has the information, if someone could really convince you to get on board, you would be surprised what you can fall for" - that's the main reason why I have never tried to put shame on those who have been scammed, regardless of how they had treated me. We all have our vulnerabilities, and there are a lot of people who know what buttons to push. Our duty as a society should not be to laugh at or be dismissive of those who have been scammed, but to actually be supportive of them. I mean, we have managed to stop smoking ads just so that we could protect those who are vulnerable, I don't see why we can't do that with financial scams too.

  • @MenwithHill
    @MenwithHill ปีที่แล้ว +27

    That was absolutely fascinating. Dudes like Le Roux fascinate me, great talk.

  • @sergioruocco6181
    @sergioruocco6181 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You should get the very first version of Bitcoin source code and make a deep analysis and comparison with any of the code written by Paul. Programmers tend to have a personal "handwriting" in picking files, functions and variable names, the code layout, the indentation, the structure of the sources directories etc.

    • @mchu7371
      @mchu7371 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      has anyone does this yet?

    • @YouTube_username.
      @YouTube_username. 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Makes sense

  • @sammyanga3436
    @sammyanga3436 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Why didnt yall cover the fact that Paul Le Roux was arrested around the same time that Satoshi disappeared?

  • @kozmikoztrich8524
    @kozmikoztrich8524 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just the video headline has me hooked! Let’s go!

  • @bigchestNick
    @bigchestNick ปีที่แล้ว +12

    What a great watch, kind of felt a shame to end. Evan and you both seemed to work off each other really well so it felt free flowing and informative at all times. Will have to check out the book

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed it! It’s a great book!

    • @genkestrel7254
      @genkestrel7254 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bennett is always so well prepared

  • @stage6fan475
    @stage6fan475 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wonderful enchanting session. Great guest. Thanks, guy.

  • @544CampStreet
    @544CampStreet ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wow I loved the Wired piece on disappearing your guest did. It's really fun putting that together when you start talking about it a few minutes in. This is wildly engrossing to listen to. Great get guys.
    Also it's really interesting that the Wired piece came out in 2009 around the time that Bitcoin was being developed. Definitely ordering Mr. Ratliff's book.

  • @badcampa2641
    @badcampa2641 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Its an intriguing thing kudos gents

  • @Hyppotalamus
    @Hyppotalamus ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That bank lady who fell for the scam had clearly never seen True Lies.

  • @alexamadams
    @alexamadams ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great episode!!

  • @user-cz4tk2vr9i
    @user-cz4tk2vr9i ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Now imagine what will happen in El Salvador were everything has been put on reserve for 15 years and there is no way to tell where billions of dollars have gone and even if the country turns a new leaf, they don't have the capability or technology to even allow them to investigate, that is a disaster waiting to happen.

    • @5urg3x
      @5urg3x ปีที่แล้ว +5

      To be fair, El Salvador was already a disaster way before BTC

  • @LinQme1
    @LinQme1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Keep the event short and sweet with the rain! Conscientious!

  • @ZKtheMAN
    @ZKtheMAN ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, that's the most buckwild title for a podcast episode I've seen in a while. This should be good!

    • @JohnSmith-ox3gy
      @JohnSmith-ox3gy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well it is classic click bait. The ties to Satoshi are stupidly weak.

  • @mattsmith8497
    @mattsmith8497 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great show guys, really enjoy the content you two put out

  • @MichaelAuerswald
    @MichaelAuerswald ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Super interesting and a great guest! Got to read The Mastermind....

  • @gigitrix
    @gigitrix ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating stuff. The early blocks thing is interesting in terms of the timings - how many actors (known or unknown) existed with the competence to not just run the software but do signing etc (which if I recall was not trivial with that first GUI/CLI) within the timeframe of the first blocks? All circumstantial stuff but yknow.

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The point Evan was making is that they could have been (and probably are) signed recently

    • @gigitrix
      @gigitrix ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CryptoCriticPod ah this makes sense, obvious oversight on my part. So still limited to whomever could plausibly have mined those early blocks (or passed/taken control of those relevant wallet-keys to other actors) but signing not time-bounded (unless making a unverifiable assumption that the signed messages are legitimately contemparaneous and not forged)

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Specifically the problem here is that Hal Finney’s estate seems to have sold some early keys

  • @gonzalotoscano3310
    @gonzalotoscano3310 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The videos from Barely Sociable on who Satoshi is are pretty good. One day we may know who Satoshi is, for now it's kind of interesting so see all the theories.

    • @chrissolutions
      @chrissolutions 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Zero46610😅😅😅😅😅

  • @LinQme1
    @LinQme1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shocked to see he got mixed up. David was a straight up, honest guy until this that ended his life! I still can’t believe his end! 😢

  • @sgill4833
    @sgill4833 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As soon as Le Roux is released from prison he will be deported to Philippines to face trial for murder and illegal arms sales. If he is Satoshi he should be thinking of an El Chapo escape. Much easier to bribe his way out in the Phillipines.

  • @LinQme1
    @LinQme1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No matter where I was without connectivity, David found me and showed up at my door! Unexpectedly! Wow! Too shocking still!

  • @marcthenarc868
    @marcthenarc868 ปีที่แล้ว

    A question to Mr Ratcliff: Did the Atavist publish the whole book on their site or was it just a digest ?

  • @Telencephelon
    @Telencephelon ปีที่แล้ว

    49:01 Guys what are the chances Paul still has acces or even remembers where he has backup keys after 10 years. I also doubt he will get back his confiscated accounts and computers. EVER. Like too important. And why would he care. If he can get a few of his assets back he is set for life.
    And then Evan Ratcliff mentioned that only Paul had access to the encryption on his computers. So he could have wiped something but certainly not in a selective manner. Like delete all operation files but leave all keys and hide them

  • @user-zt5pm1hi6d
    @user-zt5pm1hi6d 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did Richard Heart work for him?

  • @jneville23
    @jneville23 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    There needs to be a full blown movie on this guy

    • @jneville23
      @jneville23 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I watched a Nat Geo documentary featuring this guy and he had his fingers into everything dirty

    • @yanicyoda4762
      @yanicyoda4762 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "Bait "movie by jamie fox and Doug hutchIson is close enough.The gold and high tech sysyems the vilan uses is close enough

  • @Indytelevision
    @Indytelevision 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Most people don't know who Paul Larouche is

  • @LinQme1
    @LinQme1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He did! I was told by David himself when he got the job as head of security. He told me he got a job offer from the man who created bitcoin. I Didn’t know what bitcoin was but the boss was important!

  • @robert_nyc
    @robert_nyc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m portraying LeRoux in a new documentary being filmed here in New York.

  • @wisdomafoolweakness3391
    @wisdomafoolweakness3391 ปีที่แล้ว

    Money to and money can be undetectable if you use cash only

  • @trevortawandamaliro3865
    @trevortawandamaliro3865 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a person from Zimbabwe, I think Le roux was involved composed of a group of masterminds.

  • @stephenxboxxone
    @stephenxboxxone ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for helping the public we need it plz help stop pyramid scam of Tate

  • @LinQme1
    @LinQme1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have emails from David still!

  • @sammyanga3436
    @sammyanga3436 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Has anyone tried contacting Paul in prison?

  • @jaskaasi
    @jaskaasi ปีที่แล้ว

    fun fact, extradition treatys don't really matter for US goverment. look up roman selanev

  • @stephenxboxxone
    @stephenxboxxone ปีที่แล้ว

    social engineering is a real thing plz listen to these people they are helping all of us i worked for shogun gaming and i did see the big scam in gamming back then and how MLG was scamming win,s Esports full of scams as coin base support big cash gen

  • @EtherealAriel
    @EtherealAriel 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So many improperly compared assumptions about persons and their traits. 🙄

  • @susan_beaver
    @susan_beaver ปีที่แล้ว

    46:16 Of course it's not a libelous statement! It's spoken, that makes it slander!

  • @stephenxboxxone
    @stephenxboxxone ปีที่แล้ว

    jim browning sir and more of us in uk help we do things that lost do not no sir respect your work but its taken years to get the states to help

    • @3aeren
      @3aeren ปีที่แล้ว

      Huh?

  • @carlovincetti4538
    @carlovincetti4538 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes Satoshi must have:)

  • @5urg3x
    @5urg3x ปีที่แล้ว +4

    “Solochi“ sounds like a stretch…I wouldn’t even consider that as evidence, lol.
    Forums were very popular back in the day before discord, as well as IRC, and as far as emailing people asking them if you can use their code and how to credit them, that’s standard practice for FOSS. GitHub wasn’t around back then, you couldn’t just fork someone’s repo. This all sounds highly dubious. As far as the libertarian right wing racism stuff that fits literally cajilions of people.

    • @JohnSmith-ox3gy
      @JohnSmith-ox3gy ปีที่แล้ว

      Basically he was a criminal that could code and was libertarian. I could probably find a thousand similar cases, but as he demonstrated the passport is the gateway to even remotely tie him to Satoshi.

    • @5urg3x
      @5urg3x ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohnSmith-ox3gy Exactly. Might as well just say it’s Ross Ulbricht or Mark Karpeles lol.

  • @blockchainbreakdown2009
    @blockchainbreakdown2009 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your guys content! I even love this specific discussion...but I am a ride or die true believer that it was 100% Adam Back that was Satoshi, with help from Hal after releasing the white paper. Paul Le Roux just doesnt seem to really line up for me but I have not really given it any critical thought till this podcast. So I'm open to looking into it. But if he gets out in about 15 years from now and early blocks start moving...then we know whats up....or Adam Back is just waiting to move genesis coins for when Paul gets out to throw people off.
    On a final note... I would like it to be Notice that Paul Le Roux admitted on legal documents to being involved with or help set up 7 different murders (on top of his drug charges) and got 25 years.... Ross U got life for running a website and then rumor of a murder to hire with no real evidence of it presented in the court room. Something to think about...

  • @itsme-nt2lj
    @itsme-nt2lj ปีที่แล้ว

    Why would Putin do this?

  • @roc7880
    @roc7880 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what if Satoshi is an AI that (who?) needs a currency for expandig?

  • @trevortawandamaliro3865
    @trevortawandamaliro3865 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's whom I suspect satoshi is. Paul Le roux maybe one man of an organization. Libertarian white south African seems to fit w/ this ideology.

  • @SimonSozzi7258
    @SimonSozzi7258 ปีที่แล้ว

    24:45 No. Affinity fraud is a type of investment fraud in which a con artist targets members of an identifiable group based on things such as RACE, AGE, RELIGION, etc. The fraudster either is or pretends to be, a member of the group.

  • @rolandnelson6722
    @rolandnelson6722 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He thought starting a Bitcoin business was being a productive member of society?!

    • @yanicyoda4762
      @yanicyoda4762 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nope.He Started it to launder money.His gold stash was getting ripped off by the israeli merceneries

  • @1980futureclone
    @1980futureclone ปีที่แล้ว

    If anyone ever asks you for money that you don't know personally... probably a scam.

  • @vincerefund384
    @vincerefund384 ปีที่แล้ว

    Way to make Le Roux eminently likeable 😃

  • @harrickvharrick3957
    @harrickvharrick3957 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tramadol IS NOT 'highly addictive'!

  • @danh5637
    @danh5637 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s spooky how much he sounds like Elizabeth Holmes fake voice.

  • @sgill4833
    @sgill4833 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Supposedly Craig Wright has Paul Le Rioux encrypted drive and he is using his Bitcoin mining farm as cover to try to decrypt the excrypted drives of which he thinks he will have the compute power to crack it within 12 years whihc is why he saying he is satoshi now. So he can liquidate it with a legitimate claim.

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Weirdly different than Craig’s original story don’t you think?

  • @menjolno
    @menjolno ปีที่แล้ว

    If he was satoshi, he would 51 percent his own creation.

  • @stephenxboxxone
    @stephenxboxxone ปีที่แล้ว

    and uk are doing it not just usa sorry usa are not the leaders in this they are apart of the start

  • @ayalapagelson7259
    @ayalapagelson7259 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Regarding Israel and extradition- not saying its right or wrong, but there is something you are missing. There is very strong historical trauma about the Holocaust, a view of the world as a place that persecutes Jews, and of the State of Israel as a place that should protect them. Its not that fraud is "not serious". Its that murder is serious enough to break these principals. Not defending this, but pointing out a world view that you may not understand.

  • @marconiandcheese7258
    @marconiandcheese7258 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Satoshi was a CIA or NSA employee to create a crypto currency that the government could use its computers to mine crypto it could use to pay government and other groups abroad without tracing it back to the US

    • @jmitterii2
      @jmitterii2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've heard about that, but think that it's sort of BS.... but who knows.

    • @slomnim
      @slomnim ปีที่แล้ว

      Possible. There are groups and software that can do linguistic analysis on forum posts to determine if the writing style is one person or several.
      Even then, since it's a distributed system, couldn't any government mine it? China has a few very large pool, and subsidize the mining to a degree

  • @liz8343
    @liz8343 ปีที่แล้ว

    These vlogs would go so much farther if prefaced w why should the avg person care who the hell satoshi is…

  • @NotMe-wh5vb
    @NotMe-wh5vb 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No, Paul Le Roux did not invent Bitcoin. Sorry, you are wrong.

  • @Frazec_Atsjenkov
    @Frazec_Atsjenkov ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was pure torture. Please don't do that to us again... Please!

  • @sydomb107
    @sydomb107 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Satoshi was a construct to clearly and concisely talk about Bitcoin on a web forum. A multi-person edited collaboration, the leader being CRAIG WRIGHT, who is the creator of Bitcoin.

  • @JamesMullarneyIsAFraud
    @JamesMullarneyIsAFraud ปีที่แล้ว

    Chico Crypto thinks satoshi is Elon Musk 🤡🤡🤡🤡

  • @felipelopes7976
    @felipelopes7976 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nick Szabo is the real Satoshi Nakamoto, he started the development of blockchain in the 1990's

  • @MarkT
    @MarkT ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some of your vids are good. Here you ignore the huge amount of evidence CSW = = SATOSHI. For your clickbait title. Childish. Adolescent at best.

    • @vvvictoriav5958
      @vvvictoriav5958 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      L

    • @gigitrix
      @gigitrix ปีที่แล้ว +2

      🤡

    • @slomnim
      @slomnim ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol this has to be a troll xD

    • @MarkT
      @MarkT ปีที่แล้ว

      @@slomnim Nope not troll. Have been to Trollstigen. Seen them. Excluding evidence is childish. You know better. I'm a subscriber to the channel.

    • @hereigoagain3974
      @hereigoagain3974 ปีที่แล้ว

      Such a shame that Crypto Critics Corner and others like Coffeezilla aren't covering the VAST evidence that Craig S Wright created Bitcoin. I don't get what the big taboo is...

  • @agenericaccount3935
    @agenericaccount3935 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lol. Settling in for a nice show, hit in the face with muh libertarian racisms signalling. Pass.

    • @gigitrix
      @gigitrix ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Back to your bubble then buddy

    • @JohnSmith-ox3gy
      @JohnSmith-ox3gy ปีที่แล้ว

      I think I missed that. What did they say?