Luna and Terra are Crashing! Now What? (Recorded Live) - Episode 72

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 พ.ค. 2022
  • Cas Piancey and Bennett Tomlin previously discussed Terra and Luna days before the crash, now that the crash has occurred what should we take away? • Terra, Luna, and Algor...
    Other resources mentioned in this episode:
    Bennett's thread on Terra / 1490394683738136587
    Bennett's report on Terra stability thefudletter.com/is-terra-sta...
    Bennett's debate on algorithmic stablecoins bennettftomlin.com/2021/07/27...
    Timeline of Do Kwon's activities protos.com/do-kwon-terra-defi...
    Andre's Article / the-rise-and-fall-of-c...
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  • @anastasiaavery115
    @anastasiaavery115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    I was also made aware of your podcast from watching coffeezilla. I've been watching your back catalogue too. You have some very well thought out and well explained content. Thank you. If the BTC price continues to fall the next casualty will be Microstratergy.....

    • @Caddrel
      @Caddrel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Their back catalogue is excellent, I finished listening to it all last month and there hasn't been a bad episode

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you!

  • @nowherenever1169
    @nowherenever1169 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Bennett and Cas are legends and their timing was spectacular. As a long time fan its great to see you'll finally get the mainstream recognition you deserve.

    • @tradito
      @tradito 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      tether looks decent to me.

    • @leashau7817
      @leashau7817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tradito the depeg was around tethers pure Dollar backing so very easy to fix but nobody knows, what a big depeg over minutes would cause. We only know, that Tether does not want US to know how the biggest back position is spreaded. I can see the point of not showing what can harm your position - but the other side is that it is very scetchy or not existant.

    • @nowherenever1169
      @nowherenever1169 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leashau7817 I legit think they have the financial instruments they claim. Concern would be how fast they can liquidate in case bitcoin drops FAST for some catastrophic reason i.e. satoshi wallet moving or cybersecurity threat on the network

    • @leashau7817
      @leashau7817 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nowherenever1169 Well, sadly nobody knows becaue they dont even tell us what the claim is . They hired a firm to validate them, but terminated the contract because " They asked to many Papers ...." Papers when you have them legit , you should have no trouble to show ! .... sounds pretty fucking BAD. And when you make the connection that the WHOLE market depends on Thethers rise and them never beeing able to stabelize .... When it smells like a Ponzi/MLM it most likely is -.-

    • @leashau7817
      @leashau7817 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dont care about any crypto at all i never checked --- but now as i have checked the Data ... Tether has NOT A SINGLE DAY on 1$ EVER!!! So my first argument for this one big depeg was false . They have no money at all to make Tether peg at 1$ .... and they even do not hide it at all. Its just crypto"bros" ignore it (very dangerous!) or (more likely) never check on it out of ignorance(very very reckless). When you can not Peg your stable coin to the Dollar --> you sadly absolutly dont have the backing you claim.

  • @Llancre
    @Llancre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I just discovered your channel through Coffeezilla. So informative. Thanks guys for the reflection points.

  • @mitchellsiburg9931
    @mitchellsiburg9931 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Found this pod from coffeezilla, you both are great, thank you for the great info.

  • @tony58300
    @tony58300 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "it's still over a dollar..."
    jeeeesus that aged horribly and it's been like 13 hours
    great podcast btw

  • @Caddrel
    @Caddrel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thank you for breaking these things down, I wish more people had listened to you and taken their money out before the crash

  • @Trupak786
    @Trupak786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You guys were RIGHT!!! Bravo 👏 thanks 🙏 and keep going because I’m watching all your videos 💯

  • @raininseptember
    @raininseptember 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Dude on the left is fucking brilliant. Great podcast

  • @IRLVaporwave
    @IRLVaporwave 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Bennett, you have a great voice. I find your talks pleasant to listen to.
    Also, great name. I think you'll go far as a voice!
    Your partner is also entertaining.

  • @Jmattel19
    @Jmattel19 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Keep up the great work! Your discussion is at a higher level than I can completely understand but I like that its challenging me to learn more (I had to look up 'rehypothecation'). You guys regularly reference your older episodes, you should consider putting links to the episodes you reference for quick access. Can't wait for your next video!

  • @KK-pm7ud
    @KK-pm7ud 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Looks like you two are finally getting the credit you deserve. Hopefully your sponsors will allow you to keep going. I think it was a good decision to actually video tape yourselves speaking. It increases the connection with your audience. Keep it going.

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We don’t have any sponsors!

    • @KK-pm7ud
      @KK-pm7ud 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CryptoCriticPod Oh. I think I misunderstood then. I thought I heard or read something in one of your videos or posts that if you didn't get anymore views that you'd have to stop or something. I must have misunderstood. Haha.

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Cas likes to make jokes

  • @dfnope
    @dfnope 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    thank you for fixing the audio!

  • @henrio79
    @henrio79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thanks to you two, I’m now very informed on the debacle. Great content!

  • @jacksi8303
    @jacksi8303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The camera and sound is much better.
    Great video 👍

  • @johnkneeshaw8008
    @johnkneeshaw8008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I found this podcast just before the _event._ Now I'm a little disappointed I've caught up, but also was very much looking forward to this episode. You guys are great!

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You’ve listened to over 70 episodes in like two weeks??!!??

    • @johnkneeshaw8008
      @johnkneeshaw8008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CryptoCriticPod I skipped a couple. I didn't feel any need to hear more about why money laundering should be legal after the initial argument, for example.
      But it was a binge. I was sick and playing Skyrim.

  • @mqbq3651
    @mqbq3651 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    One episode and subbed. Good job guys

  • @mygoodness7246
    @mygoodness7246 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So... are we thinking pull out of Nexo, Celsius, Blockfi and into cold storage until this all blows over?
    I am getting worried.

    • @TheRealJellyBomb
      @TheRealJellyBomb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you have any money left now? 🤔

  • @themostar7426
    @themostar7426 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the cheeky grins at the start barely holding it in 😜

  • @xavdeman
    @xavdeman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    34:05 "Ok cool" - Lol, I actually wanted to hear more about that criminal illegal frontrunning Terra Labs was caught doing.

    • @ashtagbeats
      @ashtagbeats 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They touch more on that in the previous episode! th-cam.com/video/V16U4J65xkM/w-d-xo.html

    • @TheRealJellyBomb
      @TheRealJellyBomb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah, throughout the episode the dude on the right was either not listening or didn't understand what was going on 😂 I was like, wait what, explain more. 😂

  • @AmaurisPD
    @AmaurisPD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey!! Saw you in Coffeezilla! Keep up the good work!

  • @warbongos9410
    @warbongos9410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    lol anchor yield ultimate example of "over promise, under deliver" 😂

  • @hulkingmass
    @hulkingmass 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great stuff. Keep it up 🙌

  • @chatbass2468
    @chatbass2468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here from Tastytrade interview, thanks for the discussion

  • @fomi4tiger
    @fomi4tiger 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you guys think about Tether market cap reducing at the moment?

  • @retroatx
    @retroatx 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've been aware of your content for some time but only just started watching it. I have to say, you guys are very well informed And knowledgeable. GREAT CONTENT!

  • @kirilkiril7436
    @kirilkiril7436 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Shoutout coffeezilla for introducing me to you.

  • @Savukala
    @Savukala 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks! Have you ever made an episode over a legit crypto project, and would you be willing to go into some specifics about what makes them sustainable?

  • @emanuellandeholm5657
    @emanuellandeholm5657 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Got here from coffee, enjoying my stay!

  • @hexedits369
    @hexedits369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    BitKwonneeeeeect!!!

  • @taylorrooney9187
    @taylorrooney9187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    USDT just hit 3% off peg. My heart rate is starting to increase...

    • @Ashadow700
      @Ashadow700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      4% now

    • @ashtagbeats
      @ashtagbeats 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can’t take my eyes off off the chart

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gonna be another busy day for Cas and I isn’t it?

  • @sez7831
    @sez7831 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you guys do episode on DAI, it's also algorithmic stablecoin with market value of $6B+

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dai is not an algorithmic stablecoin. It’s an over-collateralized CDP based model

    • @sez7831
      @sez7831 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CryptoCriticPod oh

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We’ve mentioned it in past episodes like those with Frances Coppola and Bennett has a bunch of writing about it on his blog bennettftomlin.com/ (search for Dai and they should come up)

  • @kickinon
    @kickinon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fix your mic volume please, first guy is about 150% louder than the second guy.

  • @shlakser
    @shlakser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Subscribed because of Coffeezilla 👍 and because you are cool 👍

  • @wc8135
    @wc8135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If it is too good to be true. You have to tread carefully.

  • @ejbatu
    @ejbatu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Came over from Coffeezilla channel.
    Subed and Listening 🎶 👂 🎧 while holding on to my $ and working remotely

  • @MartinSparkes-BadDragon
    @MartinSparkes-BadDragon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    What gets me is how many fraud schemes exist in the crypto space, yet crypto is still touted as honest and legitimate. Maybe I am too cynical, but to me this lack of regulatory oversight voids any claim to legitimacy there could ever be,

    • @TheRealJellyBomb
      @TheRealJellyBomb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are non-fraud schemes in crypto? 🤔 News to me 😂

  • @tradito
    @tradito 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello. I like these, but i think volumes should be leveled. Tomlin is way too low am riding the volume up and down not to wake the neighbours.

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most aren’t like this, this one was our first attempt to go live

    • @tradito
      @tradito 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CryptoCriticPod Ok. I understand sometimes just there just no time to test if the sound is well balanced or not. You can always fix it in post if re-uploading the video.
      Either way, you got a new sub. Great channel. Crypto needs more content like this.
      I follow Tomlin on twitter for some time and i think he's great.
      Keep up the good work.

  • @J3envenuto
    @J3envenuto 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any thoughts on $hbar

  • @ItsShiggy
    @ItsShiggy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you guys think of Do Kwan filing to dissolve the company's Korean entity just days before the collapse?

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not important. They had already announced move to Singapore and had entity there

  • @tiredfrog308
    @tiredfrog308 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Moistcr1tikal reacting to Coffeezilla bought be here. Super glad I found this podcast! I look forward to catching up.

  • @carlos323131
    @carlos323131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great channel, also fuck crypto currency.

  • @fredericbillet3304
    @fredericbillet3304 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not looking it will get to $1 peg ever again!

  • @Nohandleentered
    @Nohandleentered 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn’t know Celsius was considered infamous. Since when?

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cryptocurrency Lending is Too Good to Believe - Episode 26
      th-cam.com/video/A_Sj_ZrlyLs/w-d-xo.html

  • @Baspastoorsify
    @Baspastoorsify ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we Crowdfund Tomlin a new camera or a internetspeed upgrade?

  • @jaygreenakajackstax9345
    @jaygreenakajackstax9345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Guys, thanks for all the great vids. Would it be possible to do avid on Defichain. It's founder is Julian Hosp. His passed is a bit sketchy but he sais he also was victim in the previous debacle of Lyoness.
    Also the dusd is also an Algorithmic stablecoin, next to the dfi as it's native token. The liquid mining returns are slowly decreasing but some are still up by 80% apr. I tried to tell my friends to be careful since the dusd has depeged and is at 0.92-0.9 over the last week, but no one believes me.
    Maybe it spikes your interest?

  • @bvumaassetinvestments4013
    @bvumaassetinvestments4013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We crown 👑 you'll the new prophets of doom💙📊🏁

  • @gerryk12
    @gerryk12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's a 2.5 cents now. It done.

  • @toddschultz7477
    @toddschultz7477 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Luna connect, see ya at 0

  • @buriedpet
    @buriedpet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well, as of typing this, Tether is sitting at $0.98. It depegged.

  • @jonnyy4088
    @jonnyy4088 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the whole lot's going to collapse within a week or two.

  • @PPL-ol7ps
    @PPL-ol7ps 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope you look into Djed/Shen, Cardano's algorithmic stable coin created by COTI.

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Many of the problems of algo stables are problems suffered by all algo stables

    • @PPL-ol7ps
      @PPL-ol7ps 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CryptoCriticPod Thank you for your response. You know IOHK, Charles Hoskinson and others in the Cardano community pride themselves in "being", scientific, academic, doing peer reviewed work. There is a Djed paper. It would be great to know if there is actually anything new there or not. I could read it and still not understand most of it. The more eyes, the better.

    • @TheRealJellyBomb
      @TheRealJellyBomb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@PPL-ol7psWho really cares? It's all gambling anyway.... Edit: except when it's straight up fraud 😂

  • @xavdeman
    @xavdeman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    #terrafied

  • @yogathan1
    @yogathan1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Keep up the good work. I think as we move through each quarter with rising rates. I think the animalistic behavior of hedge funds is going to cause contagion in the crypto world. They are going to try to push capital into less risky assets by exposing fraudulent financial spaces to save themselves.

  • @y.iskndr8482
    @y.iskndr8482 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I dont know keanu reeves into crypto

  • @musto87
    @musto87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why do I have this feeling you've gone short on Luna? Because everytime you look ag the chart your laughing, with your knowledge it was the best decision, if you did though.

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Nah, we don’t trade crypto

    • @kronalord3764
      @kronalord3764 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@CryptoCriticPod makes sense seems like a solid integrity decision and right now also a solid financial one

  • @benjaminaristotleboes3157
    @benjaminaristotleboes3157 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rick Sanchez huh????? 🤣🤣🤣

  • @qwerty_artist
    @qwerty_artist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there any chance someone can investigate Pandora Cash
    They claim to be 'super duper private and cool' but it just doesn't pass the sniff test yet

  • @orelusigbenga5729
    @orelusigbenga5729 ปีที่แล้ว

    i cant be the only one here for hw

  • @ModernHorrorGaming
    @ModernHorrorGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Came here after pumping zilla,

  • @IamnotMattyHealy
    @IamnotMattyHealy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    if micro strategy fails it will be hilarious.

    • @Caddrel
      @Caddrel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      they are so exposed it's hard to believe

  • @morrisj23
    @morrisj23 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Watching this with hindsight. I can appreciate how Brett kinda 95% felt like Luna was never going to re-peg and Cass moderated with a lil optimism and hope that the egregious moral hazard of a rapidly debasing stable hopefully wouldn’t happen 😂

  • @tendosingh5682
    @tendosingh5682 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The remaining funds they have include selling off any btc should be put into a token pool and distributed/airdropped to all luna holders. That way we get back something and prevents wasting what little they have on a dead project.

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No. It should go to UST holders. Luna holders knew they were the dilution source for UST value

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And they were the ones making governance decisions and deciding the way the protocol should function

  • @AeQuitaS28
    @AeQuitaS28 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The smiles throughout this is weird...

    • @Caddrel
      @Caddrel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      there's a certain absurdity to crypto that is hard not to laugh at. like promising 18% returns on a financial investment is just unsustainable, it's completely obvious and yet people reply "that's FUD, have fun staying poor"

    • @AeQuitaS28
      @AeQuitaS28 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Caddrel When thousands of retail investors have lost everything, including their lives, it's a weird time to "laugh at the absurdity".

    • @TheRealJellyBomb
      @TheRealJellyBomb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@AeQuitaS28If it's fun to laugh at idiots putting their life savings on red at the casino, it's funny to laugh when the little ball lands on black.

  • @o236sama
    @o236sama 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the love of God speak into the mic !!!