Sertac Karaman: Robots That Fly and Robots That Drive | Lex Fridman Podcast #97

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  • @lexfridman
    @lexfridman  4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I really enjoyed this conversation with Sertac. Here's the outline:
    0:00 - Introduction
    1:44 - Autonomous flying vs autonomous driving
    6:37 - Flying cars
    10:27 - Role of simulation in robotics
    17:35 - Game theory and robotics
    24:30 - Autonomous vehicle company strategies
    29:46 - Optimus Ride
    47:08 - Waymo, Tesla, Optimus Ride timelines
    53:22 - Achieving the impossible
    53:50 - Iterative learning
    58:39 - Is Lidar is a crutch?
    1:03:21 - Fast autonomous flight
    1:18:06 - Most beautiful idea in robotics

    • @Vaeldarg
      @Vaeldarg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So, even as a computer science graduate I'm not nearly as experienced as an MIT professor, but you might want to remind him that computer science has struggled with the problem of predicting the future before in the form of CPU schedulers. The answer ended up being that it is impossible to know the future for sure, and you have to settle for only accounting for the most likely possibilities and reacting as issues appear.

    • @mattgreek1066
      @mattgreek1066 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to hear you enjoyed it, Lex. You always enjoy it.

    • @mpricop
      @mpricop 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love that youtube now integrates the outline in the video itself.

    • @brianbouf8303
      @brianbouf8303 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What are best books to read for programming?

  • @lucaswood7602
    @lucaswood7602 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    One of the best intellectual podcasts around. Thanks so much Lex!

  • @ai-ur5uv
    @ai-ur5uv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Greetings from Turkey 👌 Thank you

  • @whitebusinessman
    @whitebusinessman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Great discussion. Thank you again, Lex. Could we please have Andrej Karpathy on this show?

  • @karya5571
    @karya5571 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    We are definitely proud of him and see him as a mentor too! Love from 🇹🇷💜

    • @yusuft.3587
      @yusuft.3587 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

  • @jaymn5318
    @jaymn5318 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lex, I am big fan of your podcast. Very honest, straight forward questions that brings out the best knowledge of the guest. I cannot thank you enough for educating the audiences.

  • @feelandchange9600
    @feelandchange9600 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    İnsan bir ayrı mutlu oluyor

  • @nakamurakatsumoto4855
    @nakamurakatsumoto4855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Türk var mı türk ?

  • @azizutkuozdemir
    @azizutkuozdemir 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thanks Lex .
    Sertac Karaman adamsin .

  • @aalokatharva4825
    @aalokatharva4825 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:21:16 literally gave me goosebumps!

  • @Djorgal
    @Djorgal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    He didn't mention the issue of noise when it comes to making flying cars. We don't only need to make it safe, we also need to make it very silent.

  • @korhanalkan6963
    @korhanalkan6963 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    As bayrakları as

    • @zeppelincheetah
      @zeppelincheetah 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What does that mean? Google translate says "ace flags"

    • @mertkusku
      @mertkusku 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@zeppelincheetah It's basically a popular saying in Turkish social media. It means "hang the flags". It is used in a tongue in cheek way, when some Turkish person does something nice, makes an appearance on the international arena, etc.

  • @Crazylalalalala
    @Crazylalalalala 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was great. The fact that we are at the physical limits on many of these technologies was really interesting thing to think about.

  • @Ch0sen33
    @Ch0sen33 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lex looks happier every video, Looking good Lex!

  • @NeuroReview
    @NeuroReview 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rating: 6.9/10
    In Short: Futuristic Flying (and driving) Focused
    Notes: This convo was a lot more focused than many of the future lex pods with AI related people, which I think givin the 1.5 hour length was actually good. Neat to think about a future where we have self (or semi autonomous) flying vehicles that take us from boston to NYC, a thought experiment that they talk about a lot here. Sertac is a very humble, honest, and clear speaker, but a bit of a nerd (in a good way). The whol eidea of optimus ride was talked about in the perfect amount of detail and super cool, but interesting how this was 4 years ago from the time I've watched it and I still havnt heard much from this. Seems like the timing of a lot of these kinds of ideas/companys is less on the scale of years and more like decades. Would be cool to have him on again now and get more of his story and background and purpose.

  • @wcskaya
    @wcskaya 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Teşekkürler Lex.

  • @erfanebrahimi9748
    @erfanebrahimi9748 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As always, I didn't realize time passing when listening to your podcast. The best AI podcast. Thank you Lex.

  • @totalfreedom45
    @totalfreedom45 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    *_1_* With his rich baritone voice, excellent American English pronunciation, and deep questions, Lex Fridman is the best interviewer on TH-cam.
    *_2_* 1:11...Right on target, Lex! 👏 Are you into cryptos?
    *_3_* Sertac Karaman is brilliant, as all MIT professors are. 👍
    💕 ☮ 🌎 🌌

  • @omercora
    @omercora 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great questions as always, thank you for the episode 👌

  • @jessepiologo8504
    @jessepiologo8504 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Lex! These interviews is key to have Insights.

  • @unbalancedbinarytree2194
    @unbalancedbinarytree2194 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    As bayrakları

  • @xXIceShowerXx
    @xXIceShowerXx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Asin bayraklari

  • @evgenizorin5708
    @evgenizorin5708 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for doing this Lex. It is just amazing. What do you think about Naval Ravikant on your podcast? it would be mind-blowing

  • @Pestbringer89
    @Pestbringer89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As bayraklari

  • @invgreat5608
    @invgreat5608 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice, thanks!

  • @AB-ts2xd
    @AB-ts2xd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow 😲 “brilliant” thank you for this interview I like how he respect competitors

  • @ianborukho
    @ianborukho 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love it when Lex's guests aren't too cool to have fun.

  • @ethanconnelly8794
    @ethanconnelly8794 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When are you moving to Spotify?

  • @sheriffoftiltover
    @sheriffoftiltover 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Last time I was this early, Arthur Samuel coined the phrase "Machine Learning"

  • @serbrad6426
    @serbrad6426 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    it'ssss awesome!!!! Great time here!

  • @garthwoodworth3558
    @garthwoodworth3558 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sentac is obviously a smart person. When you asked about timelines, his answer was anchored around the concept of technology gaps. He says those are fundamentally unpredictable.
    He says Musk predicts them. Then he concludes, basically, Musk is predicting the unpredictable.
    Ray Kurzweil accurately predicted the solving time for the human genome.
    I think the reason for this conflict of understanding is that Sentac does not have an intuitive sense of exponential change. In fact, humans are basically programmed to intuitively predict in a lineal way not an exponential way. Musk and Kurzwell make their predictions because, unlike the vast majority of people, they do have an intuitive exponential sense this way.
    But then of course Musk is usually too optimistic. This is because the “sense of exponential change” is not as accurate as the lineal sense people are accustomed to.

    • @Taygetea
      @Taygetea 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Towards the end, one of his real-seeming timeline guesses for mature systems that can use cameras only was *fifty years*. like come on dude.

  • @dancingfrogsxb1276
    @dancingfrogsxb1276 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Lex, you need to step up and fill the void Joe's gonna leave in YT, great podcasts

  • @roboticsjoe3181
    @roboticsjoe3181 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Taskin Padir from northeastern or Greg Fischer from WPI would make for other great robotics discussions. I've had the pleasure to talk and work with them and Sertac. All great researchers.

  • @KaraNodrik
    @KaraNodrik 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You rock my world!!!! Love you man

  • @promptstories
    @promptstories 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be great if you got Noonian Soong on your podcast.

  • @AlDumbrava
    @AlDumbrava 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can anyone point me to resources concerning these amazing advances in camera simulation that was mentioned near the start?

  • @poyguls7493
    @poyguls7493 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Talking about air and road many people are missing the opportunity in ships and boats. They already come equipped with expensive lidar and radar. Also a captain costs more than driver or a pilot.

  • @alidemirel8800
    @alidemirel8800 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Saygilar Sertac Hocam. Almanydan Selamlar.

  • @nburakovsky
    @nburakovsky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Sertac is too close to Serac, anyone who has seen Westworld should be worried lol

  • @sawyerw5715
    @sawyerw5715 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Autonomy versus sustainability... Once you have effective autonomy and prove it safer than human driving, it can only lead to banning humans from driving (with some allowed exceptions). But even before and at the early stages of introduction, autonomy will by definition be sustainable because it will save human time a very valuable commodity.

  • @captspeedy1899
    @captspeedy1899 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do Charles Elkan!

  • @siyn007
    @siyn007 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Optimus Drive > Optimus Ride

  • @barrymiller99
    @barrymiller99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mechanical things break. When they break, they fall out of the sky. Raining metal.

  • @woodandwandco
    @woodandwandco 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sertac Hard Carry

  • @wuwv-m8h
    @wuwv-m8h 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so what should we expect ? to have thousands of objects flying in the sky above us ? The blue sky obscured by all that opacity ? How could we watch the sky without having an IFO in the screen ?

    • @luvbugs22
      @luvbugs22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh how very clever these people are! Utilising every bit of space possible is advancement!? I beg to differ. We are in an age where the cerebral cortex is dominating, while the heart sits trapped in a cage 😓

  • @alpha.wintermute
    @alpha.wintermute 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Setrac is working on the right set of problems for success in his field

  • @SyntaxErr19287
    @SyntaxErr19287 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should address the UFO videos lex

  • @Sedancek
    @Sedancek 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @laugh-track-matt
    @laugh-track-matt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    neat episode buddy . dig your show . cheers yo #funwithbrainlesions #beercuresMS

  • @theaquarian5849
    @theaquarian5849 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ...And Robots that climb on rocks.

  • @ShaDoWworldshadow
    @ShaDoWworldshadow 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great question let me tell you this and i will get to that....

  • @luvbugs22
    @luvbugs22 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    14:31 something is definitely off in THIS video

  • @soleilluz1254
    @soleilluz1254 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does someone have some Reading Material, or source recommendations for "perception in computer science." ? Thank you

    • @woodandwandco
      @woodandwandco 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look into convolutional neural networks. They are the systems on which “perception” equations or matrices operate. Basically, the camera captures an image, the image is scanned at full resolution, half, quarter, etc. until your image is just a single pixel. At one or many layers of abstraction, the data created from the original image is compared with the layers of data from a large set of layers data of relevant images to predict the contents of the image, the distance of the objects in the image, etc. This is combined with data from radar and laser scanning of the surrounding environment, and the data is compounded and helps produce much more accurate distance and object size measuring. I hope this answers your question.

  • @furkan.inalcik
    @furkan.inalcik 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👏

  • @drzecelectric4302
    @drzecelectric4302 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this one. Especially after watching Westworld

  • @Luzeon
    @Luzeon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have cash app. I love it.

  • @slick95112
    @slick95112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is he Turkish or Persian?

    • @ai-ur5uv
      @ai-ur5uv 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Turkish

    • @deba4748
      @deba4748 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Let's agree on human here. I think those other two labels are there to describe nations, much less to describe a human being.

  • @Mathieu_Fresco
    @Mathieu_Fresco 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bet your guy is very smart but please send him back to physics 101.
    Lifting an object vs rolling an object is a 10 fold increment in energy consumption. Our society is starving for energy. Imagining a future with individual flying cars is just crazy. Only the richest Manhattan citizens would dream about it.

  • @sawyerw5715
    @sawyerw5715 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Compute power coupled with precise reckoning will dominate the application of safety in the air. Think about hyper precise location (you know within an inch where all objects are with appropriate margins for dynamic objects...e.g. tree limbs in the wind). Now, couple that with real time tracking/simulation. Automatic flight control can take advantage provided corridors (volume lanes in the air). Anyway, rules and constraints coupled with precise location and margins of error, is not that compute intensive. If every vehicle in essence is coupled and has its own synced controlled flight, safety should fall out. We could probably do it with today's technology, but it will get easier and easier as compute power increases. AI's can invent the necessary rules and ensure safety margins.

  • @antonio.7557
    @antonio.7557 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i love all the topics discussed here, but the guest is not really knowledgable about most of those high level questions. for example he doesn't understand economics/business but tries to explain and predict things that can only be explained from an economics/business perspective. I'm sure he has some extremely good technical knowhow, but unfortunately the conversation never got very technical

    • @marwaeldiwiny
      @marwaeldiwiny 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree with you, of course lex is doing a great job, but people are exaggerating maybe because of ignorance and not even trying to think critically for improving.

  • @markzaborniak1080
    @markzaborniak1080 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not fake that autonomous vehicles have a human driver, perhaps with a hologram.

  • @crackjack7402
    @crackjack7402 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lex pls bring Stanford's Robert Sapolsky

  • @WTFSt0n3d
    @WTFSt0n3d 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    we are taking a lot of tangents today
    welcome to the AI Podcast

  • @snackentity5709
    @snackentity5709 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    woa 6 seconds ago

  • @ai-ur5uv
    @ai-ur5uv 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should invite David Sinclair, He is amazing. thank you lex

    • @philsburydoboy
      @philsburydoboy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unfortunately I don't think David does much with CS/AI, and although his work is highly relevant to CS/AI, he has not explored that.
      The work he is doing in genetics do have a lot to do with very general reward functions and are related to long term memory, but he hasn't really explored that. I'd worry that Lex and David would spend an hour on the verge of having a really interesting conversation, but couldn't quite bridge the gap between their respective fields any more than David already has on JRE or in his own podcast.

  • @arasimo825
    @arasimo825 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why we see fly car ? I think that we see in next 50 years.

  • @willwalshe1314
    @willwalshe1314 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Get callen on the fucking show. you have genius after genius....you could have christ on the podcast or einstein but how many of them can make you laugh.

  • @vikrantsingh47
    @vikrantsingh47 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Flying cars is a STUPID idea. Period.

  • @myassingh
    @myassingh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty boring conversation.

  • @0day694
    @0day694 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Turkish pushy

  • @burkebaby
    @burkebaby ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best intellectual podcasts around. Thanks so much Lex!