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- Hey Ho Let's Tow is a Vlog of our Family adventures in our Caravan. Featuring Caravanning in the UK, Caravanning Tips and Lots of Travels in our RV . We are members of the Camping and Caravanning Club, The Caravan and Motorhome Club and visit many camp sites and try to capture the mood and feelings for our viewers. We own an Elddis Xplore 304 2022 and are new to caravanning and recreational vehicles. Please join us. Don't forget to SUBSCRIBE! It's Free! :)
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In this video we have a look at our next possible caravan now that little Hey Ho is getting bigger and the things we have learnt from having our Xplore 304.
Regarding the weight, I think around 1400kg would be pushing it with our current Car.
Seat Ateca
Kerbweight: 1375kg
85% match figure: 1169kg
Legal towing limit: 1500kg
I think this limits possible options, depends on how much you put in the 85% rule?
Do you have any thoughts on any caravans you would recommend?
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Not had our caravan for a year yet, so why are we looking for a new caravan?
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Time moves on and requirements change, finding the right layout that suits you as as a growing family is hard, looks a lovely van, we love our Elddis Chatsworth 550, but who knows what will happen in the future especially at our age 👴👵
We still love our Elddis too but, as you say, times and requirements move on. Feels like a step in the right direction for us as a family. Thanks for the kind words and support
You mentioned that the toilet door on the 640 can't be locked open. However it also shuts just the toilet/sink area off so you can then see through to the bedroom.
@@nssimpson ah I see.
Hi There, we caravaned from 80,s to about 2004 , family of 3 took a break till now looking to come back now Daughter is away. We found a 520 layout was great back then BUT only Coachman does it now I believe , great space side bunk big bed at front and superb end washroom.
I will have to look that one up. Thanks for watching btw!
@@heyholetstow With all things Caravaning there's a compromise to be made !! though the end washroom was great for all as it gave good privacy to all.
your daughter knows more than most sales reps!
😂 this it true! 😂
We are away whilst this video is Premiering! We are hoping the Caravan Site Wi-Fi is up to the task, or we can get a good mobile signal! So we are not 100% certain we will be in the chat so please bear with us.
Hi guys some good layouts there.its really hard to find the right layouts to suit everything and when you finally do take the plunge also think about TV position especially if you get a rap round lounge.great vlog 👍👍
Thanks! Yeah, no layout will be perfect, always a compromise
We think you've got an impossible wish list. At the moment for an L shaped lounge, island bed under 1500kg there is from our research only the Elddis Avante 454 but it has a small centre washroom. To have all 3 on your wish list, we could only find the Bailey Pegasus Grande Brindisi but it's towards 1600kg. We think your best compromise would be the Bailey Phoenix + 640 and change the front locker for a seat. Then you get the U shaped lounge, centre shower and toilet and a fixed transverse bed all in at 1410 kg mtplm. For lightweight caravaning that's top quality then the Bailey is our opinion right now the best on the market 👌 👍 Happy hunting 😀. Be very interesting to see what you do eventually upgrade to. 😍😍
Yeah, after some more searching we think getting and L shapes or U shaped lounge is impossible. To be honest it’s a low priority over the fixed bed and the separate shower. Also, looking at our towing specs, even 1400kg is pushing it. Our search continues but with slightly scaled back priorities …
@@heyholetstow this is the one I meant xx
@@vicdunni thanks 😂
I have a small caravan for Holidays and a large double axle older caravan which i kitted out inside with a fixed bed and end bathroom and shower, Kitchen and breakfast bar, Best way is to build your own, Also you can alter the layout if your needs change in the future.
Wow. We were joking the other day about having 2 caravans but I’m afraid we would have to rob a bank 😀
Unfortunately I think what you are looking for isn't available from UK manufacturer. European caravans are so much more contemporary. The closest UK caravan I think to match your criteria is the Elddis xplore 585. Although it doesn't have a fixed double it is very very versatile. It has two lounge areas one of which is l shaped. It also has a bunk bed. Have a look. I think it would work for you.
Yea, we realise we probably won’t be able to hit every item on our wish list: the search continues.
I wouldn't get too hung up over the lounge bit feeling enclosed when looking at centre washrooms. I bought the Bailey twin axle, transverse bed as I thought it was great having the open space. It means you can see all the crud that I generally dump on the bed from everywhere. Now, I drop my coat, laptop etc on the bed and we can close it all off and have a nice tidy lounge to relax and watch the TV. Agree 100% on the concertina door, shocking rubbish piece of paper blind type thing.
You should look at the single-axle version of ours. I think it's the Swift Challenger 560. Not that you're looking to replace your current caravan, of course.
You have the bug, you've started the search, and you'll be in a new caravan by Xmas
Yea, I agree. We are just tying to be quite specific so we don’t even up getting a compromise. But no ideal caravan really exists. We are limited a lot by our tow car. As far new caravan bug… watch this space…. It’s like a beast out of control
Ah. Just looked at that van. Looks lovely. Too heavy and too pricey for us. We aren’t all international caravan vloggers living of TH-cam salaries 😂
@@heyholetstow What you’re actually saying is that you’re not as old as me 😂
@@CaravanVlogger when we were stood together chatting at the NEC people did think we were Grandad and Grandson Adventures 😂
@@heyholetstow you can go off people 😂 So people thought we were 3 generations together 🤣
Just to add , re the long front seats they are fine for your daughter, most adults use them as single beds so she would be nice and comfy.
The Bailey with the fixed singles, again they are for adults we have had 3 Baileys that layout and the beds are actually fine once you get used to them 😂, my husband did turn over and fall out once 😂 as they are narrow like you said, we have a Swift now with fixed singles and they are wider.
I think the last one you looked at is your best match though. You could have an extra tv in the bedroom so after your daughter is in bed you can watch something.
Your Daughter is a real sweetie, hope you all find just the right van when the time is right xx
Thanks very much. She is the star of the show. We did love that final Phoenix we looked at but going back to our car limits we think it’s a little too heavy so have had to keep on looking
@@heyholetstow its really difficult isnt it, next year one of the manufacturers might design something perfect for you.
Over the years we’ve never found one that’s absolutely perfect though, always something not ideal but i think if its nearly right its ok. Some makes have the option to have front wrap around seating instead of a chest worth asking xx
@@vicdunni yea, we don’t want to come across sounding too fussy but trying to find something that ticks as many boxes as possible. We will keep on looking and you never know!
@@heyholetstow you are not too fussy, better to get it right than buy one thats just not right, fingers crossed 🤞 you will find ‘the one’ xx
Be careful the Swift Nightstar you looked at (twin axle) you say the weight was ok for your vehicle, but the weight displayed on the caravan was micro (caravan weight without all extras and your equipment). The weight you need to focus on is Mtplm which is displayed on some of the other caravans.
Yea, after further investigation it’s too heavy for us. To be honest 1400kg is too much!
We’ve just bought a Bailey Unicorn Cadiz that has twin beds. They are narrow but are absolutely fine for us, our friends have one and he is well over 6’ and manages really well too. (2019+ models)When we had the grandchildren they slept on the sofas as singles and we were able to sit on our beds in the evening. A Cabrera has the middle bathroom like you want.
The Cadiz are lovely. Yeah, I think the little one would fit on the sofa fine. I think, looking at our actual tow specs, that a Cadiz (and most other vans 😀) are a little heavy for us
@@heyholetstow do you follow The Caravan Place? Mark does brilliant walk arounds and always gives the MTPM I saw one from yesterday with a few lightweight ones but not what you are looking for.
@@sandrapearson728 we do! We love that channel! One of the channels that inspired us to Vlog ourselves. We were tempted to reach out to Mark for advice
The last caravan you looked at is very similar to our Elddis 550 affinity ,almost identical layout , it might be worth you having a look at one of those.
It’s on the list! Thanks for watching btw
Have you looked at the xplore 585 i think they are under 1400kg and have quite a nice set up
Added to the list!
Have you looked at the Elddis like the Coffeevanners had before their recent change?
Has everything you want except no separate shower. But it’s fairly lightweight, L shape lounge ( not many u shapes about on the newer vans) and a nice rear transverse bed x
Which model was it again?
@@heyholetstow im not sure but if you watch their videos there is lots about it.
They have just swapped to a big Bailey but look at all their videos from the beginning xx
@@vicdunni yea. We do watch them. Big fans. Will rewatch their vids to see
A three berth with a dinette would be ideal for you
It would, but trying to find one is proving difficult 😀
Elddis Xplore 585.
We do like the 585, hits most of the criteria. It’s on the list
For lighter caravans have you looked at the lunar venus range? Love watching Travelling Box on TH-cam who has a fixed single bed, back washroom venus. Lovely. We have a similar layout with fixed singles. We don't find them small and we aren't exactly small 😂 we have a bailey pegasus rimini 2014 but too heavy for you I believe. Personally I would always buy a used caravan not new but this is only based on our opinion after many caravans, motorhomes, narrowboats and campervans 😂
Lunar Venus? Will see if we can see one! We are new vanners and prefer the new vans. Less stuff to fix (in theory) 😂
@@heyholetstow I understand the theory but many say if its new to you all the teething problems you get with a new van have been mainly ironed out. However it's all individual circumstances so who knows!! Enjoy your search 😊
@@jbrislen1 oh yea. Some people I know have bought new caravans and had no end of trouble!
@@heyholetstow just advice based on our experience. We've had caravans, more caravans, 2 narrowboats, motorhome and now what we think is the perfect combination.....a vw campervan towing a fixed twin bed caravan. I think its absolutely fine to experience a few outfits before you find what is is best for you. BUT beware....what's suits you changes over time with changing circumstances...eg. growing young people whose needs change 👍
@@jbrislen1 tell me about it
Some new caravans don't have fly screens at the front
Don’t they? ?
@@heyholetstow no they don't we have been looking you really do need them
@@suefromstoke4076 do the new Baileys?
@@heyholetstow the new Bailey's we have been told have no fly screens at the front we've looked at the unicorns and above and they have none
Something drastic has happened to your current one? 😅
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Elddis avante 550
Affinity 550
Compass Casita 550
Not sure if you have looked at these ☝️, but they are all centre bathrooms around 1400 MTPLM
Yep. I think they are all on a short list but depends on what you take as a towable weight. Documentation says we can tow up to 1500kg, however the kerbweight is 1375kg and I’ve heard you shouldn’t tow any heavier than that. Then there’s the 85% rule which some people say you should stick to and some say doesn’t matter so much,
@@heyholetstow yes I would suggest that you stick to the 85% rule
@@picklestheswift if so, then our choices are very very limited. There are not many caravans with an MTPLM of 1168kg or less. But there is a bit a leeway as I doubt our caravan would ever be loaded up to its full MTPLM anyway.
@@heyholetstow Definately stick to the 85% Rule dont listen to people that say it doesnt matter & you could tow up to what your manufacture towing limit says. I have been caravanning for 32 years & would never exceed much above the 85%. To give you idea I tow a Twin Axle Buccaneer Commodore with upgraded MTPLM to 2,000KG with a 2022 Land Rover Discovery Kerbweight 2499KG. Land Rover state it could tow 3,500KG & on paper it could but i would not feel safe towing that weight behind me. The 85% rule is not law but a safety recommendation which i prefer to tow within.
@@dafarmer21 85% of kerb weight of car against MTPLM or what the actual caravan load is (we travel light) 😀
Whatever you do forget swift products they are absolutely rubbish at quality and finish had a couple and soon got rid of best ones I could find is eldis or a slightly older lunar model
Really? Sorry to hear that. I know a couple of people who have Swifts and haven't had too many issues. I suppose its sometimes down to bad luck. What were your issues if you don't mind me asking?
Window and structural leaks doors falling off fridge and cooker issues you don't expect that for what you pay in the end landed an excellent van with a adria adora the quality is chalk and cheese check out there range
@@eathan323 we do love the Adrias. Do feel very solid.