Well done Dee. You’re an excellent presenter and bring out the human side of this extraordinary sport, undertaken by the rarest of exceptional human beings.
Excellent Live today. Warm and insightful chats with Pip and Sam G. Conrad made a great guest. In tone and contribution - must get him back. Top job Dee! PS loved the cheers, from the studio team, for Sam G.
I think it's time to rethink the format for this race. There is obviously three classes that are racing in it. The foilers, the non foilers, and the Corinthians. It's time to give the first to Finnish in each class their due.
Great show Dee with a brilliant studio guest and terrific chats with some of our heroes especially Pip. What a lady!! After her horrible dismasting she still has the capability to smile and laugh. I think she will be very impressed by her welcome in Australia. 👏
For people claiming for sub classes.... well stop saying wrong things, and start to make your brain working It is not possible to create three classes because VDG is not "Rolex fastnet" and will never be. VDG will always restrict the number of boat to more or less 40 boats for various reasons, this has been confirmed by the race organization committee. Don't expect 150 sailors running an adventure in the future, this won't happen in VDG With 150 boats, yes it could be consistent to create sub classes, but for 40 it is totally inconsistent. You should all stop being wrong and not giving respect to this race !!! Also corinthian are stil welcome IMOCA IS NOT a class for corinthian, THIS IS PER ESSENCE A PROFESSIONAL CLASS, and so VDG IS PER ESSENCE A PROFESSIONAL RACE as for America's cup.... Are you wondering if America's cup is for professional or corinthian ? THIS IS EXACTLY THE SAME THING, IMOCA class is the pinnacle of monohull offshore racing, this is per DEFINITION a professional class, IMOCA Globe Series is now for long time now A PROFESSIONAL SPORT no more an adventure. Adventure ? This was 30 years ago when offshore sailing born At this time only a few boats finished races, there had been number of deaths At this time sailors were mostly daredevil 'ass holes' discovering unknown things. Today, offshore races are strictly organized, the boats are full pieces of technology, sailors are far more prepared through a training process implying underlying classes as Mini 6.50, Figaro, Class 40... So please stop s....hitting like that, this means YOU UNDERSTAND NOTHING to the french offshore sailing culture, and you will never understand. Corinthians are only a few and in the future corinthians will be less and less. Little by little most daggerboard will disappear in the next years following introduction of new foilers that are recycled in the second hand market. 11 new foilers in 2024, probably the same thing in VDG 2028.... so little by little ancient foilers prices fall down and replace daggerboard. For example Arnaud Boissières runs his 5th VDG, the first on a foiler the former boat of Samantha Davis Simply because first generation foiler become affordable. IMOCA is per essence semi open prototypes, this is a question of technology, don't understanding that is lacking respect to IMOCA Class as you would lack respect to America's cup claiming for a one design or claiming for sub classes, because PER ESSENCE America's cup is SEMI OPEN JAUGE as IMOCA If you don't like this PLEASE forget VDG and IMOCA and switch to McIntyre's Golden Globe Race, but please make some effort to UNDERSTAND what are IMOCA and VDG, and what are NOT IMOCA and VDG. VDG is not an adventure, this is a sport (with a part of adventure) Corinthian racers are most welcomed in the Class 40 and Mini 6.50 - Class 40 is a fully mixed corinthian / professional class - Mini 6.50 is divided into two sub classes, a prototype class where we usually find professionals (but a rich corinthian could perfectly buy a prototype), and the others where we find most corinthians. VDG IS A PROFESSIONAL RACE aiming high performance, high risk Corinthians must comply with the same qualification rules than professionals, so a lot of corinthians are in fact false corinthians, theses are professionals with less budget Theses sailors have generally followed a demanding training course, beginning with Mini 6.50, after FIgaro class and / or class 40. Qualifying for VDG requires a full time implication. You can a Rolex Fastnet and being a lawyer... you can't qualify to VDG being a lawyer, you must suspend temporarilty or definitively the former job. This means that separating corinthians and proffessionals is not so clear, there are a lot of false corinthians or let's say semi professionals. The real corinthians in VDG 2024 ? let"s say that they are not more than 3 Pip Hare is not a corinthian, even in 2020, she WAS A PROFESSIONAL running with a little budget Pip Hare ran in Mini 6.50 Class long before VDG, so she has never been the little gentle "beginner" running a VDG VDG can't welcome "beginners" because beginners would mean not acceptable risk on the most dangerous offshore races. In next VDG 2028 qualification will add an important performance factor which will make harder and harder for a real corinthian to qualify. It will depends on the number of candidate compared to the fixed jauge of 40 boats - 100 candidates for 40 places.... no place for corinthian. Qualification would require the best boats with the best sailors who would be mostly professionals - 42 candidates for 40 places.... some corinthians may still hope a qualification (this was roughly the situation of VDG 2024) - 30 candidates for 40 places ... there would be a lot of place for corinthian With the growing international audience, for VDG 2028 there are great chances that number of candidate will be higher than in 2024. There will be probably at less 45 candidates. Number of new possible comers are officially or quasi officialy announced : - Elodie Bonafous (France) - professional : sure (with a sisterhip of MACIF) - Franck Cammas (Ftance) - professional : speculative but Franck confirmed working on it - Francesca Clappish(Italy / US) - professional : speculative but highy probable under the umbrella of 11th hour - Armel Trippon (France) - professional : sure (with a sisterchip of Malizia II) - Cole Brauer (US) - corinthian : speculative, she is working on that - Xavier Macaire (France) - professional : speculative but Xavier confirmed he is working on it through Team SNEF - Marc Thiercelin (France) - corinthian : speculative but daggerboard project is on the road with an IMOCA built with more sustainable material as wood. He is an established sailor (so we could say professional) but his target is not to win the race but to test more sustainable materials - Jack Boutell (AUS) - professional : speculative, but he confirmed working on it (he has accumulated a lot of experiencec with 11th hour racing, he will be the co skipper of Initiative Coeur in the double handed season 2025) - Gaston Morvan (France) - let's say corinthian for first attempt : speculative, he confirmed working on it - Phil Sharp (UK) - corinthian : sure (with a sistership of Initiative Coeur) - James Harayda (UK) - professional : speculative, but almost sure (Gentoo sailing is selling the daggerboard boat probably in order to buy a foiler to get more chance to qualify in 2028) - Scott Sawyer (CAN) - let's say corinthian for his first attempt, but corinthian with some money : speculative, but almost sure. He announced scanning the second hand market in order to purchase a foiler to get better chances to qualify in VDG 2028) Some sailors of VDG 2024 won't reboot, many projects of the list above will fail to build up, but there will be in the coming months many other new projects, so we can be almost sure that for VDG 2028 there will be at less 45 full built up project.... for only 40 seats. For VDG 2024, we can identify - Denis Weynberg - Szaboles Weores - Olivier Heer as real corinthians, all others are professionals / semi professionals Chinese Jinkun Xu don't intend to run only one VDG, he has a long term project through the IMOCA class, but this will depend on wether he is able to convince more chinese sponsors. Moreover he is running a generation one foiler. Le't say that at first corinthian is a one shot player.... he aims to run one VDG and generally completely stop racing after. If a corinthian is running another VDG.... this is no more a corinthian.
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Thanks Dee. Excellent show as usual. Conrad is a legend.
I absolutely love this show and all the special guests
Well done Dee. You’re an excellent presenter and bring out the human side of this extraordinary sport, undertaken by the rarest of exceptional human beings.
Excellent Live today. Warm and insightful chats with Pip and Sam G. Conrad made a great guest. In tone and contribution - must get him back. Top job Dee!
PS loved the cheers, from the studio team, for Sam G.
Great show as always Dee
And excellent to see Conrad and hear from Pip, Sam G, Yoann and Romain
I think it's time to rethink the format for this race. There is obviously three classes that are racing in it. The foilers, the non foilers, and the Corinthians. It's time to give the first to Finnish in each class their due.
Makes total sense, at least foil vs non-foil rankings.
18:17 You must have absolute trust and confidence in your boat to be able to sleep when it's hammering along like this!
Great show Dee with a brilliant studio guest and terrific chats with some of our heroes especially Pip. What a lady!! After her horrible dismasting she still has the capability to smile and laugh. I think she will be very impressed by her welcome in Australia. 👏
Well done, again. The show is like a delicious ice cream and you keep changing the mix ins. Always a tasty treat!
Thanks for sharing 🤙🏼
Great job, Sam!!
Please keep going the conversation with Pip as long as she’s on her boat. It’s too early to let her leave the race !
For people claiming for sub classes.... well stop saying wrong things, and start to make your brain working
It is not possible to create three classes because VDG is not "Rolex fastnet" and will never be.
VDG will always restrict the number of boat to more or less 40 boats for various reasons, this has been confirmed by the race organization committee. Don't expect 150 sailors running an adventure in the future, this won't happen in VDG
With 150 boats, yes it could be consistent to create sub classes, but for 40 it is totally inconsistent.
You should all stop being wrong and not giving respect to this race !!!
Also corinthian are stil welcome IMOCA IS NOT a class for corinthian, THIS IS PER ESSENCE A PROFESSIONAL CLASS, and so VDG IS PER ESSENCE A PROFESSIONAL RACE as for America's cup....
Are you wondering if America's cup is for professional or corinthian ?
THIS IS EXACTLY THE SAME THING, IMOCA class is the pinnacle of monohull offshore racing, this is per DEFINITION a professional class, IMOCA Globe Series is now for long time now A PROFESSIONAL SPORT no more an adventure.
Adventure ? This was 30 years ago when offshore sailing born
At this time only a few boats finished races, there had been number of deaths
At this time sailors were mostly daredevil 'ass holes' discovering unknown things.
Today, offshore races are strictly organized, the boats are full pieces of technology, sailors are far more prepared through a training process implying underlying classes as Mini 6.50, Figaro, Class 40...
So please stop s....hitting like that, this means YOU UNDERSTAND NOTHING to the french offshore sailing culture, and you will never understand.
Corinthians are only a few and in the future corinthians will be less and less.
Little by little most daggerboard will disappear in the next years following introduction of new foilers that are recycled in the second hand market. 11 new foilers in 2024, probably the same thing in VDG 2028.... so little by little ancient foilers prices fall down and replace daggerboard.
For example Arnaud Boissières runs his 5th VDG, the first on a foiler the former boat of Samantha Davis
Simply because first generation foiler become affordable.
IMOCA is per essence semi open prototypes, this is a question of technology, don't understanding that is lacking respect to IMOCA Class as you would lack respect to America's cup claiming for a one design or claiming for sub classes, because PER ESSENCE America's cup is SEMI OPEN JAUGE as IMOCA
If you don't like this PLEASE forget VDG and IMOCA and switch to McIntyre's Golden Globe Race, but please make some effort to UNDERSTAND what are IMOCA and VDG, and what are NOT IMOCA and VDG.
VDG is not an adventure, this is a sport (with a part of adventure)
Corinthian racers are most welcomed in the Class 40 and Mini 6.50
- Class 40 is a fully mixed corinthian / professional class
- Mini 6.50 is divided into two sub classes, a prototype class where we usually find professionals (but a rich corinthian could perfectly buy a prototype), and the others where we find most corinthians.
VDG IS A PROFESSIONAL RACE aiming high performance, high risk
Corinthians must comply with the same qualification rules than professionals, so a lot of corinthians are in fact false corinthians, theses are professionals with less budget
Theses sailors have generally followed a demanding training course, beginning with Mini 6.50, after FIgaro class and / or class 40. Qualifying for VDG requires a full time implication. You can a Rolex Fastnet and being a lawyer... you can't qualify to VDG being a lawyer, you must suspend temporarilty or definitively the former job.
This means that separating corinthians and proffessionals is not so clear, there are a lot of false corinthians or let's say semi professionals.
The real corinthians in VDG 2024 ? let"s say that they are not more than 3
Pip Hare is not a corinthian, even in 2020, she WAS A PROFESSIONAL running with a little budget
Pip Hare ran in Mini 6.50 Class long before VDG, so she has never been the little gentle "beginner" running a VDG
VDG can't welcome "beginners" because beginners would mean not acceptable risk on the most dangerous offshore races.
In next VDG 2028 qualification will add an important performance factor which will make harder and harder for a real corinthian to qualify.
It will depends on the number of candidate compared to the fixed jauge of 40 boats
- 100 candidates for 40 places.... no place for corinthian. Qualification would require the best boats with the best sailors who would be mostly professionals
- 42 candidates for 40 places.... some corinthians may still hope a qualification (this was roughly the situation of VDG 2024)
- 30 candidates for 40 places ... there would be a lot of place for corinthian
With the growing international audience, for VDG 2028 there are great chances that number of candidate will be higher than in 2024. There will be probably at less 45 candidates. Number of new possible comers are officially or quasi officialy announced :
- Elodie Bonafous (France) - professional : sure (with a sisterhip of MACIF)
- Franck Cammas (Ftance) - professional : speculative but Franck confirmed working on it
- Francesca Clappish(Italy / US) - professional : speculative but highy probable under the umbrella of 11th hour
- Armel Trippon (France) - professional : sure (with a sisterchip of Malizia II)
- Cole Brauer (US) - corinthian : speculative, she is working on that
- Xavier Macaire (France) - professional : speculative but Xavier confirmed he is working on it through Team SNEF
- Marc Thiercelin (France) - corinthian : speculative but daggerboard project is on the road with an IMOCA built with more sustainable material as wood. He is an established sailor (so we could say professional) but his target is not to win the race but to test more sustainable materials
- Jack Boutell (AUS) - professional : speculative, but he confirmed working on it (he has accumulated a lot of experiencec with 11th hour racing, he will be the co skipper of Initiative Coeur in the double handed season 2025)
- Gaston Morvan (France) - let's say corinthian for first attempt : speculative, he confirmed working on it
- Phil Sharp (UK) - corinthian : sure (with a sistership of Initiative Coeur)
- James Harayda (UK) - professional : speculative, but almost sure (Gentoo sailing is selling the daggerboard boat probably in order to buy a foiler to get more chance to qualify in 2028)
- Scott Sawyer (CAN) - let's say corinthian for his first attempt, but corinthian with some money : speculative, but almost sure. He announced scanning the second hand market in order to purchase a foiler to get better chances to qualify in VDG 2028)
Some sailors of VDG 2024 won't reboot, many projects of the list above will fail to build up, but there will be in the coming months many other new projects, so we can be almost sure that for VDG 2028 there will be at less 45 full built up project.... for only 40 seats.
For VDG 2024, we can identify
- Denis Weynberg
- Szaboles Weores
- Olivier Heer
as real corinthians, all others are professionals / semi professionals
Chinese Jinkun Xu don't intend to run only one VDG, he has a long term project through the IMOCA class, but this will depend on wether he is able to convince more chinese sponsors. Moreover he is running a generation one foiler.
Le't say that at first corinthian is a one shot player.... he aims to run one VDG and generally completely stop racing after.
If a corinthian is running another VDG.... this is no more a corinthian.
For such a tough race the boats are a bit flimsy n'est ce pas?