Completely agree with your approach to teaching the original mambo through the congas and the graphs and explanation of congas is really valuable. The explanation of the bass did seem to suggest the bass hits 4/5 and 8/1. Sometimes it does but not often and not in the examples you played. The classic bass timbao hits on the 2& then 4 ,6& then 8 - sometimes it does add in 1 and 5 to make it 1 2& 4 5 6& 8 (3 side of the clave repeated) but most of the time not. Hearing the bass hit just after your 2 and 6 step and slap bang on 4 and 8, along with the congas, are what mamboistas are dancing to and expressing in their bodies. Great videos - cudos for all you do.
Excellent video! Thank you for having the courage to share this information with us. Also, I amire your honesty in giving the credits to Ms. Irene Minguel for making you aware of the fact that the Eddie Torres Salsa On2 instruction has a discrepancy between what is said (123-567) and what is done (234-678)
I have to tell you again you are one beautiful man. If i may, i learned on 2 . Timing Is important but being yourself and finding your own rhythm and style Is Just as important. I don't want to dance like everyone else
It's a bit imprecise to say "You step on coo coo". Are we talking about touching the floor or transferring the weight? And in any case - is the step on first coo (8) or second coo (8and)? Or You touch the floor on 8 and transfer the weight on 8and and effectively You can prolong the steps into two full beats like doing one long step in cha cha cha (at 8-8and-1). You can do the upper body movement to accent the coo coo but finish the weight transfer on 1 so the 1-2-3, 5-6-7 would technically fit just fine.
I think this is advanced concept. The average Joe who is taking a beginning Salsa class finds it much easier to dance/hear on one. Bcuz most peeps are not Latino and can't hear musically the percussion the way someone who has grown up listening to salsa
Hello, Edgard. Thanks for this video, if i discovered it a beat earlier i haven't to figured it by my self, what you explained here. My teacher told me that we dancing on two, but always started to count from one and it confuses me a lot. And i started to figure out by my self why it 's. When i came to teacher and say that i think that actually we start on 8 not 1 why than we count one, we in class changed the counting and started to count from 8. )) I'm started to go to salsa dance class a month ago and have a big struggle to find when to start to move (find that 8 beat). I know there some where have to be the congas, but in the most music i struggle to hear it. May be you can give some advice or practice exercises to develop this skill by my self at home. Thanks.
Hey, I watched your salsa timing videos and have a question. I also dance some Zouk which is basically a quick quick slow too, that starts with a back step on the slow which in Zouk is a down beat followed by a quick quick or „tschick tschick“ like in salsa, you probably know this. Now if I would dance the Zouk timing over a salsa song, I break back with the „slow“ on the 1 or the 8 rather so I land on the 7 break back on roughly the 8 in the front rather than the 6 as in salsa on 2. The 1 feels like it is somewhere in the middle of the backward slow step. And I also noticed, that it emphasizes the slow, also stretching it a bit and it feels like a shorter „quick quick“ if this makes sense? For some reason tho it feels extremely natural for some reason. You could try this if you just break back on the one and then just be like „dooom quick quick“… and so on. Then if you count over the steps you make, you might notice your break step from front to back is actually on the rather than 6. Am I dancing off beat or what am I dancing if dancing like this? it feels flowy 😄 Thanks in advance
Hard to understand if you don’t know basic music timing. Do you play an instrument? It’s basically describing where your feet land in relation to the music timing.
Completely agree with your approach to teaching the original mambo through the congas and the graphs and explanation of congas is really valuable. The explanation of the bass did seem to suggest the bass hits 4/5 and 8/1. Sometimes it does but not often and not in the examples you played. The classic bass timbao hits on the 2& then 4 ,6& then 8 - sometimes it does add in 1 and 5 to make it 1 2& 4 5 6& 8 (3 side of the clave repeated) but most of the time not. Hearing the bass hit just after your 2 and 6 step and slap bang on 4 and 8, along with the congas, are what mamboistas are dancing to and expressing in their bodies. Great videos - cudos for all you do.
Excellent video! Thank you for having the courage to share this information with us. Also, I amire your honesty in giving the credits to Ms. Irene Minguel for making you aware of the fact that the Eddie Torres Salsa On2 instruction has a discrepancy between what is said (123-567) and what is done (234-678)
I have to tell you again you are one beautiful man. If i may, i learned on 2 . Timing Is important but being yourself and finding your own rhythm and style Is Just as important. I don't want to dance like everyone else
It's a bit imprecise to say "You step on coo coo". Are we talking about touching the floor or transferring the weight? And in any case - is the step on first coo (8) or second coo (8and)?
Or You touch the floor on 8 and transfer the weight on 8and and effectively You can prolong the steps into two full beats like doing one long step in cha cha cha (at 8-8and-1).
You can do the upper body movement to accent the coo coo but finish the weight transfer on 1 so the 1-2-3, 5-6-7 would technically fit just fine.
I have been chastised by top Dancers that I step on the koongkoong because it is antiquated and not the modern way.
I think this is advanced concept. The average Joe who is taking a beginning Salsa class finds it much easier to dance/hear on one. Bcuz most peeps are not Latino and can't hear musically the percussion the way someone who has grown up listening to salsa
But isn't stepping on 4 and 8 Contra Tiempo as apposed to New York Style On2?
Yes. Technically you dance on 8, not 2 in contratiempo.
Hello, Edgard. Thanks for this video, if i discovered it a beat earlier i haven't to figured it by my self, what you explained here. My teacher told me that we dancing on two, but always started to count from one and it confuses me a lot. And i started to figure out by my self why it 's. When i came to teacher and say that i think that actually we start on 8 not 1 why than we count one, we in class changed the counting and started to count from 8. ))
I'm started to go to salsa dance class a month ago and have a big struggle to find when to start to move (find that 8 beat). I know there some where have to be the congas, but in the most music i struggle to hear it. May be you can give some advice or practice exercises to develop this skill by my self at home.
Thanks.
Hey, I watched your salsa timing videos and have a question. I also dance some Zouk which is basically a quick quick slow too, that starts with a back step on the slow which in Zouk is a down beat followed by a quick quick or „tschick tschick“ like in salsa, you probably know this. Now if I would dance the Zouk timing over a salsa song, I break back with the „slow“ on the 1 or the 8 rather so I land on the 7 break back on roughly the 8 in the front rather than the 6 as in salsa on 2. The 1 feels like it is somewhere in the middle of the backward slow step. And I also noticed, that it emphasizes the slow, also stretching it a bit and it feels like a shorter „quick quick“ if this makes sense? For some reason tho it feels extremely natural for some reason. You could try this if you just break back on the one and then just be like „dooom quick quick“… and so on. Then if you count over the steps you make, you might notice your break step from front to back is actually on the rather than 6. Am I dancing off beat or what am I dancing if dancing like this? it feels flowy 😄 Thanks in advance
Im trying to learn, but really have no idea what im looking at
Hard to understand if you don’t know basic music timing. Do you play an instrument? It’s basically describing where your feet land in relation to the music timing.
… sorry timbao should read tumbao meaning pattern