I put an iPad behind the C1 and run Studio One remote on it. That way I have quick access to the channels with naming and meters and everything. Rarely need to look at the main screen when mixing that way. That would be an option for Softube to look at. Making a tablet app to go with C1.
For anyone who's thinking about getting this, I seriously recommend it. I grew up using hardware mixers and consoles and this really feels like hardware. I use a StudioLive32 so it has no channel strip - this is my channel strip. Whatever channel I'm monitoring, this is the channel strip. I *hate* "mousing around" when I load a new channel. This is hands on, two hands at a time. Once you know your way around it you can reach for it and do it without even looking, just like hardware. If you have the budget for it, you won't regret it.
Just bought one second-hand to see what all the fuss is about. I already own most Softube plug-ins so it seemed logical. I really like the idea, but I'm a bit skeptical how useful it is in the long-term and practically. Will see if I can adapt my workflow to use it or not. Otherwise I'll just sell it and keep my old workflow. Great review btw!
I'm a fan of digital LCD screens when it comes to controllers. Maybe every knob could've had a small lcd screen with text that changes depending which plugin is in use. I don't know if it would've made the controller more complex / expensive to construct (since you'd have to have 20-40 small lcd's) but I think it could've totally been worth it, for future proofing the controls to work with different plugins. Either multiple small screens (just large enough for 10-12 letter words), or do something similar to what NI has been doing with Kontrol NKS and Maschines. Have 2-3 screens with layout guides, so even if a knob is not right below the screen, you will be able to tell what parameter it's adjusting from looking at some of the 2-3 screens, because you'll be able to see that the knobs are grouped, and you know it's the 3th knob from that group you can see it adjusts the Tube Drive etc.
I keep nearly buying this, but I am besotted with the Brainworx console N. It is the first channel strip I have used that doesn’t sound like a plugin. The UAD Neve 88rs sounds flat and boxy in comparison. Keen for the demo video.
I'm a Live(Studio) Sound Engineer from the analog world. I believe that's one Reason I prefer Reason as my primary DAW. I love that now I can afford the equipment I would never be able to afford in digital form. I do miss touching and turning the knobs and faders though and am always looking for a controller that'll let me continue to enjoy doing so. There always missing something. Or cost a fortune. Peace
I’ve been thinking to get this. I’m on UA and the selling point for me, is that the UA plugins are pre mapped with Console 1. I agree that the Q should be adjustable. That’s quite important. Hopefully they can add this soon. Thanks fir the review!
Try the 2 reverb plugin/controllers from TC Electronics, DVR 250-DT, TC8210-DT. they are good also the TC2290 -DT & TC 1210-DT. They all make using plugins easier
It's great to hear a review with some negatives and some well thought out improvements. Most review just say the Console 1 is perfect, you have dug deeper which is great.
Interesting concept.Spending $500+ on knobs?If it would really be a time saver in workflow I could see using it.To me it is another box interfering with my DAW workflow.Just my opinion.Nice concept however.Like to see some actual work with this.
Agree.. mouse is far quicker and you can assign some plugins to external controlers anyway like Avid Artist/Mix. I also use iPad for some Logic remote functions.. be interesting to see an assignable controler app for that.
Place it very close to the PC keyboard. It’s more than just “knobs”. You can touch lots of controls, close your eyes, listen and react. That’s worth a lot.
yes but they are "knobs" that are mapped to the most important part of shaping your tracks.. something you will be doing over and over and over again on the mix down. why only be able to click on one thing at a time, one track at a time, when you have a board in front of you with instant access to everything at once? its a huge time saver. you could sculpt the eq, grip down the compressor, spin back around and re-eq and hit the gate in about 10 seconds. it would take you at least a few minutes with the mouse. how can you not see the difference? if you only adjust the volume on your mix down then yes, its a waste.
Thanks for the video! Looking forward to the practical demo. I am currently choosing a control surface for Reaper and with options such as this, the decision is difficult.
Softube? If you listen. Let him keep it :). Nice review and if I ever buy a new DAW controller, I really consider that one. What I'd prefer, if it would with any plugin, or if it would offer a wrapper for other plugins.
had one of these for a few weeks I love it, think it sounds amazing! not visually distracting like most eq plugins it makes you use your ears more, but I agree about the limited Q factor I still use fab filter in the channel strip, nice review !!!
The good old Novation Remote x SL could do all this and for every DAW and nearly every Plug-in on the market and often it’s AUTOMATICALLY! I don’t know why the Remote SL line with its fabulous Automap software disappeared? A new Remote SL MK 4 with motor faders would be killer. It’s still supported even on Windows 11, but I use 10….
ill still watch! i like your vids are its crash course on how to use what you review but was asking. i never seen a video where you didn't like it or thought it was Snake Oil
Get a demo for the Brit desk, and the 9000k, if you can they sound quite different. Would be good to know what you think of the other desks as well as the 4000 - or if you think the difference is snake oil ! So far I'm liking the 9000.
Thanks for this review we are waiting for. Would you make a snake oil of BX_ Console SSL4000E with the "TMT technology" which simulate many of different channel of the real console?
My motivation is pretty simple and straight forward. It would be an unimaginable Joy and Delight to Win this product simply because, as the world becomes more and more digital and less tactile, I have ALWAYS yearned to go back and use Vintage gear just like, but the only problem is that the desire to go back is undeniably expensive, and there aren't too many accessible studios in South Africa where one can freelance at and get a feel of pushing those faders up and turning those knobs. Having said all of this, winning this product would be as close as I will get to a real console. This could tire in quite seamlessly to My already simple workflow. *Thumbs Crossed* and all the very best to every subscriber. Keep on writing these amazing sonic Love letters in Your dungeons.
i'm trying to decide what route to go with a mixdown set up.. would the softube work well with electronic music? I'm guessing maybe not as there is no Q on the lower band?
Wait, it fits in a Neumann console (Danner A1 format rack slots)?!! That's a big selling point for me, haha. Please confirm, I'm considering getting one, and a few murky Neumann faders are taking up valuable real-estate on my desk, unused.
Hello and thank you for the review..very in-depth! You mentioned it not being heavy on the computer, but what are your computer specs? I want to run it on a laptop and I am worried it would run too heavy...THANKS!
What I was thinking about is that this fixes a lot of controllers. We all know that using plugins on like Mackie controllers or even the Avid S3 sucks huge P's. Especially when you are tracking digitally it's just a huge hassle. Adding this thing into your chain basically makes it like a digital live console.
Nice idea to make some money as a company. But let's say I've got Ableton Live and a midicontroller with a bunch of knobs, why not create your own rack, save it and save a lot of money to spend on usefull stuff :)
Just got mine Changed a lot I use Uad plug ins it links with UA Flawlessly and works inLogic pro perfectly you can hear the difference immediately putting a SSL strip on each track.🚀🚀🏆💯💻
Can someone help me determine why in my console one settings I am missing a few checkboxes, the one I need is "Use DAW Track Selection", but it is missing from my settings. Anyone know why?
Does the Console 1 require Universal Audio plugins? I'm interested in the Console 1, but it's a pretty expensive bit of kit by itself, let alone having to jump into UAD plugins...
Will you do more reaper tutorials in the future? Maybe something relevant to your workflow? Mixing, mastering, workflow tips, etc.? I know you have some older ones now though.
6:29 - "controlling it is just amazing." What a weird thing to say. Has WSS ever used a generic midi controller? I.E. Mackie C4, Novation SL controller, etc? They should do the same job as the Console 1 hardware controller. Remember, the Console 1 hardware is just a midi controller, nothing more. You can test this out by removing the Softube software at startup (or simply closing it) and using it as a generic controller for other plugins via midi learning! Btw, I'm a Console 1 owner :P It's a handy controller to go along with the plugin, sure. I don't think it's amazing, but I still enjoy using it alongside other plugins :)
@@chaddonal4331 Unfortuinately, I don't think so. If you keep the C1 software running, it will be completely linked to the C1 plugin. Also, there's another step to setting up the C1 hardware as a controller, but, that's not really important here. Just know that, you can't run both C1 AND third-party stuff at the same time. Anyway, there are plenty of cheap midi controllers available for controlling software plugins. And they're simple enough to set-up , when dealing with mapping midi messages (per plugin).
Did you have a chance to work with UAD plugins with the console 1? I think if you have UAD reverbs you can control them with the console 1. I think it would be smart for them to work with fabfilter for their stuff. Fabfilter is just so damn good! Looking forward to the mix video!
@@Whiteseastudio Right on! I still would love to see FabF integration with the console 1. Keep up the videos! love when you release new content! Side note - are you able to tell about the artist that you did the mix videos for? I specifically remember a video where you mixed acoustic guitars, bass and electrics on your proper console for one video and it just sounded fantastic.
i bought it for logic and its really nice. plus you can buy the extender and attach it for 16 tracks, less than a grand. solid quiet faders and full mackie support. dont get color scribble strips though. but i love it now and cant live without it. mixing one fader at a time with a mouse feels like im mixing with a club in my hand. i recommend it. just get it off amazon, and return it within 30 days if you dont like it
As ProQ continues to advance (sidechain dynamics yesterday) I'm having difficulties imagining a consol that could control it. Unless of course you're just using it a simple parametric EQ.
Everybody here needs a GonZoule....
Damnit, now thats all I hear and I'm laughing my ass off every time.
Haha
😂😂
😜😜😜
Im dying
I put an iPad behind the C1 and run Studio One remote on it. That way I have quick access to the channels with naming and meters and everything. Rarely need to look at the main screen when mixing that way.
That would be an option for Softube to look at. Making a tablet app to go with C1.
thats actually a good idea. studio one ftw
Very very good idea
For anyone who's thinking about getting this, I seriously recommend it. I grew up using hardware mixers and consoles and this really feels like hardware. I use a StudioLive32 so it has no channel strip - this is my channel strip. Whatever channel I'm monitoring, this is the channel strip. I *hate* "mousing around" when I load a new channel. This is hands on, two hands at a time. Once you know your way around it you can reach for it and do it without even looking, just like hardware. If you have the budget for it, you won't regret it.
If you press and hold shift you can use the Drive, character and pan to control your daws sends 1, 2 and 3
And send - soooo, reverb one would assume too.
You're doing a terrific job on those videos!
Just bought one second-hand to see what all the fuss is about. I already own most Softube plug-ins so it seemed logical. I really like the idea, but I'm a bit skeptical how useful it is in the long-term and practically. Will see if I can adapt my workflow to use it or not. Otherwise I'll just sell it and keep my old workflow. Great review btw!
You can control reverbs. Or rather you can control AUX sends by holding down "Shift". Love the console 1!!
I'm a fan of digital LCD screens when it comes to controllers. Maybe every knob could've had a small lcd screen with text that changes depending which plugin is in use. I don't know if it would've made the controller more complex / expensive to construct (since you'd have to have 20-40 small lcd's) but I think it could've totally been worth it, for future proofing the controls to work with different plugins.
Either multiple small screens (just large enough for 10-12 letter words), or do something similar to what NI has been doing with Kontrol NKS and Maschines. Have 2-3 screens with layout guides, so even if a knob is not right below the screen, you will be able to tell what parameter it's adjusting from looking at some of the 2-3 screens, because you'll be able to see that the knobs are grouped, and you know it's the 3th knob from that group you can see it adjusts the Tube Drive etc.
Dude: regarding the Hi and Low bands Q: it's an SSL recreation and those EQs doesn't have it. Great video btw
I also took notice that if there are any EQs I see only 2 knobs which means a 2-band EQ. What is that about?
Known as "British Eq"...
Man I love how you say console, you make it sound like a delicious dish. Great video too, clear and right to the point. I might grab one for myself.
I keep nearly buying this, but I am besotted with the Brainworx console N.
It is the first channel strip I have used that doesn’t sound like a plugin.
The UAD Neve 88rs sounds flat and boxy in comparison.
Keen for the demo video.
This is what i would do: i would use c1 as an midi controller for external plugins and map the knobs accordingly to bx_console
Unless i missed it... one the great features of Console 1 is that you can load UAD plugins in to it, and also control your Apollo Interfaces.
May I ask how many UAD plugins it comes with ???
This is Not true - it is simply a CONTROLLER for UAD Plugins. The UAD Plugs are not loaded in to the hardware - just as you say: parameter control.
Amazingly honest and well made reviews as always Wytse! Thank you for that :)
You can use sends directly from the console 1 to feed a reverb bus
Just to clarify: You can CONTROL sends directly from the console 1 to feed a reverb bus.... Console 1 has no sends itself.
I've never worked on a console so I think it'd be cool to use the Console 1 to get a feel for a hybrid/console workflow! Love the channel
I'm a Live(Studio) Sound Engineer from the analog world. I believe that's one Reason I prefer Reason as my primary DAW. I love that now I can afford the equipment I would never be able to afford in digital form. I do miss touching and turning the knobs and faders though and am always looking for a controller that'll let me continue to enjoy doing so. There always missing something. Or cost a fortune. Peace
Nice Video! Went to a studio that had this console. Glad you went in-depth on this product!
Any way to get this working with unofficial pirated protools 12HD and torrent the plugins? Asking for a friend. Thanks
I’ve been thinking to get this. I’m on UA and the selling point for me, is that the UA plugins are pre mapped with Console 1.
I agree that the Q should be adjustable. That’s quite important. Hopefully they can add this soon.
Thanks fir the review!
Awesome, one of my most awaited videos! Looking forward to seeing the mix using the console 1 as well :)
Console 1 + 32 Channels of Apogee Symphony->API 8200/7800 Summing here. How I remember the SSL Axiom MT at Quadraphonic Sound NY.
Try the 2 reverb plugin/controllers from TC Electronics, DVR 250-DT, TC8210-DT. they are good also the TC2290 -DT & TC 1210-DT. They all make using plugins easier
It's great to hear a review with some negatives and some well thought out improvements. Most review just say the Console 1 is perfect, you have dug deeper which is great.
Looking forward to the mixing video ;)
Good review.
Any chance of reviewing the
Softube Console Fader ?
Interesting concept.Spending $500+ on knobs?If it would really be a time saver in workflow I could see using it.To me it is another box interfering with my DAW workflow.Just my opinion.Nice concept however.Like to see some actual work with this.
Agree.. mouse is far quicker and you can assign some plugins to external controlers anyway like Avid Artist/Mix. I also use iPad for some Logic remote functions.. be interesting to see an assignable controler app for that.
Place it very close to the PC keyboard. It’s more than just “knobs”. You can touch lots of controls, close your eyes, listen and react. That’s worth a lot.
yes but they are "knobs" that are mapped to the most important part of shaping your tracks.. something you will be doing over and over and over again on the mix down. why only be able to click on one thing at a time, one track at a time, when you have a board in front of you with instant access to everything at once? its a huge time saver. you could sculpt the eq, grip down the compressor, spin back around and re-eq and hit the gate in about 10 seconds. it would take you at least a few minutes with the mouse. how can you not see the difference? if you only adjust the volume on your mix down then yes, its a waste.
Just finished lunch. OH YEAH!
You can use this with any plugin. Use it in Midi mode.
Good vid brother but can you use this with any plug in right?
Thanks for the video! Looking forward to the practical demo. I am currently choosing a control surface for Reaper and with options such as this, the decision is difficult.
Better option (imho) is run S1 and get a FaderPort8 or 16. Done. If you must use PT, then just get a FaderPort of your choice of size.
Softube? If you listen. Let him keep it :).
Nice review and if I ever buy a new DAW controller, I really consider that one. What I'd prefer, if it would with any plugin, or if it would offer a wrapper for other plugins.
Could be paired with the TC Electronic reverb and delay controller/plugin products...
Tc electronic make hardware controllers for their classic reverb plug-in. They also have a controller for their 2290 delay which is pretty cool.
Sold my slate raven mti2 ....I’m about to grab one of these 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
softube has some nice plugins
had one of these for a few weeks I love it, think it sounds amazing! not visually distracting like most eq plugins it makes you use your ears more, but I agree about the limited Q factor I still use fab filter in the channel strip, nice review !!!
With Cubase you can control the 1st 3 sends. Agree with your review.
The lav mic is sounding way better now! Keep up the great content!
You mentioned that what's missing is reverb control. Have you looked at pairing Console 1 with one of those TC Electronic reverb controllers?
Gonzolla. King of the controllers.
The good old Novation Remote x SL could do all this and for every DAW and nearly every Plug-in on the market and often it’s AUTOMATICALLY!
I don’t know why the Remote SL line with its fabulous Automap software disappeared? A new Remote SL MK 4 with motor faders would be killer.
It’s still supported even on Windows 11, but I use 10….
Still this seems to be more work?? Even moving my hand to it from the mouse takes time and i like my six band eq??
Why do you put question marks at the end of a statement?
@@DankoHidalgo Easy answer, he was asking himself
ill still watch! i like your vids are its crash course on how to use what you review but was asking. i never seen a video where you didn't like it or thought it was Snake Oil
They need small lcd displays like the Ableton Push so you get best of both worlds and see what you're turning.
Get a demo for the Brit desk, and the 9000k, if you can they sound quite different. Would be good to know what you think of the other desks as well as the 4000 - or if you think the difference is snake oil ! So far I'm liking the 9000.
The quality of your videos are getting higher and higher :)
Thanks for this review we are waiting for. Would you make a snake oil of BX_ Console SSL4000E with the "TMT technology" which simulate many of different channel of the real console?
My motivation is pretty simple and straight forward. It would be an unimaginable Joy and Delight to Win this product simply because, as the world becomes more and more digital and less tactile, I have ALWAYS yearned to go back and use Vintage gear just like, but the only problem is that the desire to go back is undeniably expensive, and there aren't too many accessible studios in South Africa where one can freelance at and get a feel of pushing those faders up and turning those knobs. Having said all of this, winning this product would be as close as I will get to a real console. This could tire in quite seamlessly to My already simple workflow. *Thumbs Crossed* and all the very best to every subscriber. Keep on writing these amazing sonic Love letters in Your dungeons.
After maybe 4 years or so I’ve noticed in an update that there is mid and side . Has anyone noticed or tried it?
Dope video,. Thanks for the info! You have to do review for the Softube Weiss DS1-MK3 when it comes out!
Check the MP Midi Controller, still did not come out but you can controll absolutely every plugin with it!
It is on its way
Oh god, serious? What is the final price??
keen to see that follow up mix video. great channel!
That thing looks like fun.
Very insightful and useful as usual, thanks for another one.
i'm trying to decide what route to go with a mixdown set up.. would the softube work well with electronic music? I'm guessing maybe not as there is no Q on the lower band?
Can't wait for the next Console 1 Video. Thank You
Love your videos! Ty 4 your honest reviews!
Wait, it fits in a Neumann console (Danner A1 format rack slots)?!! That's a big selling point for me, haha. Please confirm, I'm considering getting one, and a few murky Neumann faders are taking up valuable real-estate on my desk, unused.
Thanks for the review :D I have been quite interested in this one.
Hello and thank you for the review..very in-depth! You mentioned it not being heavy on the computer, but what are your computer specs? I want to run it on a laptop and I am worried it would run too heavy...THANKS!
What I was thinking about is that this fixes a lot of controllers.
We all know that using plugins on like Mackie controllers or even the Avid S3 sucks huge P's.
Especially when you are tracking digitally it's just a huge hassle.
Adding this thing into your chain basically makes it like a digital live console.
I'm very happy with my S3. No limitations with plug ins. I like console one but to me the S3 is way better.
What about applying eq and compression to the mixbus?
Nice idea to make some money as a company. But let's say I've got Ableton Live and a midicontroller with a bunch of knobs, why not create your own rack, save it and save a lot of money to spend on usefull stuff :)
Great job! Does it need CPU Power? (Because it is an Insert?) Latency? Thx.
Just got mine Changed a lot I use Uad plug ins it links with UA Flawlessly and works inLogic pro perfectly you can hear the difference immediately putting a SSL strip on each track.🚀🚀🏆💯💻
Great setup. Looking forward to the session on it :-)
Conclusion: They make pretty decent rotary buttons that you like to touch.....oooooookay.
We're waiting for Console 1 Mk 3 review Sir ;)
If you had to choose between console1 and te fader, which one would you choose and why
Can someone help me determine why in my console one settings I am missing a few checkboxes, the one I need is "Use DAW Track Selection", but it is missing from my settings. Anyone know why?
Looking forward to the next video
the console fader has transport controls
150 tracks at 192? 🐝 jeez
Does it support tsar reverbs from softube? Those sound very nice imo
I'm interested. Looking forward to the video on you using this.
Thanks
Does the Console 1 require Universal Audio plugins? I'm interested in the Console 1, but it's a pretty expensive bit of kit by itself, let alone having to jump into UAD plugins...
can it be use for live show purpuse... i mean without the live latency noticible that sucks
There no Q for low and high bands because on SSL consoles they don't have them.
Will you do more reaper tutorials in the future? Maybe something relevant to your workflow? Mixing, mastering, workflow tips, etc.? I know you have some older ones now though.
Excellent. Thank you.
6:29 - "controlling it is just amazing." What a weird thing to say. Has WSS ever used a generic midi controller? I.E. Mackie C4, Novation SL controller, etc? They should do the same job as the Console 1 hardware controller. Remember, the Console 1 hardware is just a midi controller, nothing more. You can test this out by removing the Softube software at startup (or simply closing it) and using it as a generic controller for other plugins via midi learning!
Btw, I'm a Console 1 owner :P It's a handy controller to go along with the plugin, sure. I don't think it's amazing, but I still enjoy using it alongside other plugins :)
Can you use it to control anything wlse without diaabling the C1 software?
It would be nice to go back and forth.
@@chaddonal4331 Unfortuinately, I don't think so. If you keep the C1 software running, it will be completely linked to the C1 plugin. Also, there's another step to setting up the C1 hardware as a controller, but, that's not really important here. Just know that, you can't run both C1 AND third-party stuff at the same time.
Anyway, there are plenty of cheap midi controllers available for controlling software plugins. And they're simple enough to set-up , when dealing with mapping midi messages (per plugin).
The way it uses the rotary controls is pretty smart.
Would you suggest this above and beyond an Ableton Push 2
Reverb ... if you want a desktop controller maybe the TC Electronic products added to your Console 1
I am confused - at: 1:43 no motorized faders? How do you then you save the settings for that particular session?
digital recall.. same way your DAW remembers plugin settings
@@flipnap2112 Understand - thank you.
what was what console you pointed saying This is a console
Neumann N20
Did you have a chance to work with UAD plugins with the console 1? I think if you have UAD reverbs you can control them with the console 1. I think it would be smart for them to work with fabfilter for their stuff. Fabfilter is just so damn good! Looking forward to the mix video!
I don't have UAD processing stuff
@@Whiteseastudio Right on! I still would love to see FabF integration with the console 1. Keep up the videos! love when you release new content!
Side note - are you able to tell about the artist that you did the mix videos for? I specifically remember a video where you mixed acoustic guitars, bass and electrics on your proper console for one video and it just sounded fantastic.
There are no reverbs that currently work with this, UAD or otherwise. I have both C1 and UAD, they make good mix partners.
Ok! Thanks for the correction! Haha
Have you tried the XTouch, and if so what are your thoughts. Really value your opinion.
i bought it for logic and its really nice. plus you can buy the extender and attach it for 16 tracks, less than a grand. solid quiet faders and full mackie support. dont get color scribble strips though. but i love it now and cant live without it. mixing one fader at a time with a mouse feels like im mixing with a club in my hand. i recommend it. just get it off amazon, and return it within 30 days if you dont like it
C1 needs to be used with UAD. But guys. C1 is a console simulator, they are not triying to be FF. They replicate channel strips.
Definitely q on all eq .makes me have to add another eq and that costs cpu points.lol.nice clear videos. Cheers mate
Would SSL Fusion and Console 1 work well on the same workflow?
Thanks, Now a review of CONSOLE 1 plz
i don't think i have ever left one of your review unsatisfied!
Love the long mixing videos, go ahead.
so,,, you are using REAPER. The control screen is a Softube screen. Are there mods required to operate smoothly with REAPER?
As ProQ continues to advance (sidechain dynamics yesterday) I'm having difficulties imagining a consol that could control it. Unless of course you're just using it a simple parametric EQ.
You should definitely check out the Hickory by Oh My! Bytes
So this is a plug-in?
Aren’t you afraid of ringing when using tight Qs on a kick?