How to hold a pen (or pencil) properly and write without pain
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- This video demonstrates the "tripod" grip and discusses how one can learn to write without pain.
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i know i hold my pencil wrong, i also grip my pencil really hard so it quickly makes my hand hurt and makes me want to stop writing. i've been holding my pencil like this for as long as i remember and i can't hold my pencil another way. i know how to hold the pencil as the "tripod grip" way but as i try to write like that my handwriting goes sloppy and i change back to the way i always write unconsciously. how can i stop this?
me too
There's no trick here except to set aside practice time that is specifically focused on maintaining a relaxed grip. During this time, your letter forms can go to hell. As long as you keep your hand relaxed, you've succeeded. After some time spent doing this, the relaxed grip will become more and more comfortable and you'll start to get your control back without having to revert to your painful grip.
Same! I’m assuming you rest the bottom part of the pen (the part nearest the paper) slanted on to your ring finger? I do the same.
samee, I remember when I was getting taught how to hold a pen when writing, but I couldn't do it right. My friend kept trying to help me, but I just got annoyed for some reason so I kept doing it the wrong way in defience I guess. My teacher got annoyed as well, so told my friend to leave me. I have been writing the wrong way since, and it really shows since my primary school and most of secondary school has always been really messy and all over the place.
SAME MY HAND IS REALLY SLOPPY LIKE A FISH
I hold my pen really tight and wrongly and that always caused my ring finger cuticle starts to bruise and makes me want to stop writing so thank you for the help
I have the same exact problem on the same finger
Mee too
Ive started having this problem last week, and i have always drawn like this for years, but now im a bit concerned, cause drawing makes my hand unconrfortable when i draw again :/ I hope this goes away... btw, have something changed about it for you?
My ring finger has bruised so much that the bruised part has hardened that I don't feel pain anymore now.
@@adityaarora5847 i hope it happens to me as well...in despite of I start to be getting used to a different grip (tripod). Btw, did it take too long for it to harden? Maybe its like starting to play guitar and hardening the tips 😅
I cant describe really how Im feeling right now.
All my life since I remember I have struggled with writing. I started doing cursive, but it was so undecipherable that I switched to "print letter" style so that people could actually understand something, this after a suggestion from a high school teacher.
Im a 39 years old family physician.
I didnt want my caligraphy to be the typical medical cliché, but it was. Since I have a memory my caligraphy hasnt been that great, and bc of that I always try to write extra slow, specially with regulated medications, so that the prescription is readable, and even with that extra care sometimes people came back because the pharmacist didnt accept the prescription bc they said it was unreadable. It didnt happen all the time, but a few times a month made me feel bad, bc Im working twice, and the patients are wasting their time.
I started using the pen as you said in your video.
Turns out I was just holding bad the pen. It was tight. Not fluent. It hurt.
For the first time in my life when I write my letters are clear, fluent, beautiful.
Im almost crying right now.
Thanks for this video.
i thought it’s just me who has pain from writing,thx god it’s not just me
my parents stopped complaining
why
@@Pulak_Plays it means that his parents write his homework
@@GaneshMKarhale bruh😂😂
My handwriting and English language is too much good
I love it 😍😍😙😙
Seriously, THANK YOU! I struggled already, and then I had a brain injury, so my hand hurts more and it never feels natural anymore. This helped right away! I am so thankful!
I had a problem with my thumb cramping up when I wrote for even a couple of minutes and this video reminded me to just relax my hand, thanks for the vid!
Shoulder injury has be concerned so I decided now would be a good time to learn how to write well my my non-dominant hand (right). My hand would always hurt after 15 minutes of practice though and while the writing was pretty decent looking for only using my right for only a few days I always had to go at it slowly. With the tripod grip you've shown me(which is kind of different from the way I wrote with my left and how I initially tried to write with my right. No wonder I got writer's callus at a young age, still have it actually) it become much more comfortable to deal with.
Thank you
Great to hear!
Great video. I am a freshman in college and I'm currently in the middle of a math final. Thank you
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it tried to write one page with this method ,what actually is
1.set your mind to your content rather than writings and fonts
2. get medium thickness pen with rubber grip
3.make your hand totally dry for more natural friction
4.use some techniques like shown in vid.
before this i get pain in my shoulder very very quick like after 2,3 lines and after, i write whole paper with barely any pain ,writings look average but that writing is your real writing ,worked for me
I write with a really intense grip and when I use a relaxed grip my writing is a lot lighter is there a way to have a relaxed grip and still write letters with a darker shade?
You're going to need to grip a little tighter to write darker, but that doesn't mean you need to squeeze the pen. Start practicing writing at the shade you want, but trying to use the lightest grip you can to apply that shade.
there is a difference between the finger muscles gripping the pen and the wrist muscles used to push the pen down on the paper. I don't have pain when I write and I like bold font handwriting. So grip the pen just enough with your fingers but keep it relaxed. Now keep this pen grip forever. What you need to test out now is how much downward force your wrist needs to apply to the paper. Don't overexert, just right is enough and perfect.
Oh my god i was looking for this since a long time! thank you very much! I even have problems with mouse and keyboard because of this passive tension I have.. I thought it's something to do with angles and grip but now I know what to do. Now I can draw, write, and type without any pain. Thank you again !
Omg tysm!
I'm ten and since its online classes alot I have to write for hours together so this helped alot❤️
Good to learn it early
@@erex9875 true, im very jealous. I dont know if ill be able to change the way I hold it now... :(
I'm 11 and same
What does your age have to do with anything?
@@asoupling4076Let the child be happy. God."
This is really helpful :') i get bruises when im holding my pen 'incorrectly' i didnt know it was wrong since i saw my mom holding a pen thats also why my handwriting is ugly-
The tripod grip is way too uncomfortable on the middle finger even with a light grip
Thank you for this. I watched your videos in the past and this was a great video to come back to in order for me to freshen up my technique :)
Thankyou.
You can also try just applying the amount of pressure weight the writing utensil weighs.
I found this to be better for me while holding a pickelball paddle.
For being more precise without holding the pen more tightly, one thing I've learned while drawing straight lines and underlining text is that I need to look ahead at where I want the line to go more than try and focus on the spot my pen is at and trying to force the movement to stay "straight" from there. Looking ahead at where I want the line to go might generally help with less exhausting precision.
Ive gripped my writing utensils too hard since i was a kid. I would ALWAYS break my crayons and it was so frustrating. I'm a writer now at 26yo who adores handwriting but the pain i experience is ridiculous. Im watching this video to help undo that habit. Thanks for teaching us!
My problem isn't really my hand hurting, it's my finger. The way I hold my pen to draw is similar to the one you showed except the pen is resting on the middle part of my middle finger. Or to be more specific, right beneath the distal phalanges and at the top of the middle phalanges. I unconsciously press too hard sometimes and my skin get's sore and occasionally bruised. My skin isn't very tough and I have to press the pen down hard to get the right density for my sketches(I draw digitally). I've tried other ways of sketching and so far I haven't found any that I like and don't get frustrated with.
Many drawing tablets come with software to change the pressure required when using the digital pen. For example, my XP-PEN tablet has a setting in its software called, "Hardness." I can move the slider in several graduations between "Soft" and "Hard." If your drawing tablet has such an option, I recommend sliding it towards "Soft," so less pressure will be required.
@@IdontknooooowO_O I've managed to get my hand to be comfortable in a different position where it's isn't resting on my finger, I usually switch in between these two.
I don't write as much as I draw so my new position might not be the greatest for writing. Basically I just use the tips of my thumb, pointer and middle finger to hold the pencil. It took a while to get use to but it has helped me greatly.
Fantastic hands!
Thurber (the creator of the D'Nealian handwriting system) describes an alternate grip which may help to eliminate the pressure or the squeezing of the writing tool to hold it in place.
"The pencil is placed between the index and middle fingers, resting on the web of the hand. It is then grasped with the thumb, index, and middle fingers about an inch from the point. The thumb gently holds the pencil in place against the other two fingers. The hand rests on the heel of the hand and slides on the tips and nails of the fourth and fifth fingers.The pencil is held with about a twenty-five degree slant from the vertical position. This provides a firm structure that doesn't require much fingertip pressure to hold the writing instrument."
that's what iI do lol
thank you so much for this!
Thank you. Your suggestion was far more helpful than the video.
It's a terrible suggestion. The optimal angle for writing is 45 deg, not 25. @@TheBearDrewww
I've always held the tripod abnormally. My middle finger doesn't rest under the pen. Instead it sort of presses against the side of the pen. It's weird, but I'm gonna try the "right" way and see if it benefits me or not. My writing has always been sloppy and I'd like to improve. Thanks for this vid!
I hold it the exact same way, it feels like I need something to press against the pen for my writing to be normal otherwise I can’t write properly, so I can’t do the tripod grip properly
I do the same my fingers bend as well
I've been looking for a video how to hold a pencil while writing without hurting my hand. This was after I did an evening course where I was required to write an essay with my hand word for word what my tutor said.
After practicing with this new technique (as you demonstrated in this video) I have new handwriting, but I'm sure I'll get used to it. At least I didn't feel any pain while writing so I know it's working 🙂
My pencil grip is very weird and I definitely have the hard grip problem. In my case it causes the first knuckle of my thumb to bend inwards, concave. It looks very unnatural, puts so much pressure on the knuckle, and hurts after just a couple paragraphs. It's been so frustrating trying to re-learn my grip, especially since I'm an artist and use the same grip for all my drawing coordination. I'm going to start trying practice exercises to completely relearn it. Up until now I thought it was impossible to fix.
i was writing for ever 6 hours yesterday in preperation for my exams and ive had pain ever since last night. it was a struggle to write an exam today with a sore arm
Such great news. Keep it up, David.
In that thumbnail, you're holding using the D'nealian grasp and I thought for sure you were gonna punk me. XD
Great vid, Dave!
Haha just changed the thumbnail!
The way that I hold my pencil is I put my thumb over my pointer finger and gripping tight , I’ve been holding it like that ever since I was old enough to write and my mom said that my writing is bad . I’ve been trying to write with the proper way but since I grip my pencil tight it’s hard to adjust and my writings are always squiggly .
I have the same problem, did you mange to get your pen grip better?
I wrote like this big my middle finger gets really sore and red
the thing is, this is only working for me on writing the alphabet, but when i start writing japanese symbols it starts slipping off
This is common. My guess would be that you either have a higher standard for japanese symbols or they are more difficult for you as a writer. There's something in you that is saying, "try harder", when writing japanese symbols and is causing you to lose track of your grip. Like I suggested in the video, I would set aside some practice time where you write japanese symbols and your sole objective is to maintain a proper grip. During this time, success is measured by your maintenance of the grip, not by the forms of the symbols which will undoubtedly suffer until the grip becomes completely natural.
Thank You.
It has to do with the fact that we have always been used to writing with a pencil. Back in the day, when writing with a number two pencil, you had to really dig in for the writing to be coherent.
Bro I cannot believe im 15 and searching for tutorials five days before school starts becuase LAST YEAR my hand suffered
Thank you, very very much
"Alright lets talk about how to hold a pencil"
Me a senior in college 👀
This should be thought on schools
Thank you. Been using wrong pen Grip all this time. Even disliked writing because my arm and hand became so painful always when writing..believe this will help me😍
I needed this because i have been using the pencile and pen wrong and it starts to slowly scrape off the skin from my nails.
Something that we should do here is teach kids how to write neatly. My father and uncle were taught how to do it in their homeland and I'm over here struggling on every letter so that it looks nice.
Who else came here because you felt like you were holding your pencil the wrong way.
Bro the resting part; rest your pen with your middle finger and don't stress fore finger and the middle finger, is the best study of writing.
I found my technique just to practice more.
Thank you so much
Im a lefty and i've been writing with two finger my whole life i really need to change
Damn same!
same, but I'm a righty
I am used to writing with 4 fingers, should I try to learn to write with 3 fingers?
I hold my own with all five fingers. I’m trying to stop
Nothing helps me, unfortunately. I have given up trying.
This was extremely helpful. Thanks for the great uploads
I was 37 when I found out that I hold a pen incorrectly. Definitely too late to change, and why would I do it anyway when it doesn't cause me any problems? It doesn't matter how you hold the writing utensil; it's about what you write and how you write it.
Usually a NEW PEN ,you know, starts on rough so i put more pressure, also grip it more tightly, to write better...but overtime it becomes smooth and i continue to write that way...
I'm Brazilian and I watch several planner channels. It always intrigues me a lot the way most of the people of these channels ( basicaly Americans and Canadians) hold the pen. It is very different from how we are taught here in Brazil. I can't exactly describe how they do it, but the thumb goes over the index finger. I've tried writing that way and besides being very difficult, it hurts my whole hand. Sincerely it baffles me why ensinar crianças a escreverem dessa forma.
Mine is sweaty palm.. as the sweats starts coming the grip between hand n pen lessens so inorder to get better hold of pen I need to tighten my grip n thus my hand starts to Hut..
makes more sense hearing it from someone else. thanks
Thank you I always get worried people may judge me because of my writing.
The tripod grip invites a tighter grip. A fat pen and easier grip with the thumb wrapped around the rubber grip helps ease pain when writing
Thank you sir☺️
I actually almost forgot how to write after the quarantine 🙄
And your video is of great help😘
After reading these comments and realizing we're all holding our pencils wrong in almost the same fashion (grip hard and in a way where it makes a cuticle on our ring finger), I'm starting to wonder if there's some kind of method to this madness if we're all instinctively doing it wrong the same???
Yea you get control when you grip the pencil tightly. But you can learn to control the pencil with a light grip and avoid the pain.
As a lefty under-writer, I find that the classic tripod grip with the elongated/relaxed finger puts my pen at a terrible angle. It digs the point right into the paper. My adaptation has always been a more curled grip with the pen resting on the ring finger. Might not work for everyone but it works for me!
As long as it works and it doesn't hurt, you're good!
I do that too! However, i grip wayy too tight and i get pain within 5 minutes of writing!!!! AND exams are soon... HELP!!
@@laurenamber3709 I've had a LOT of pain in my index finger lately because I've been holding every muscle tighter because everything is stressful. It sucks. I'm trying to relax but it's not easy!
I'm left handed too. And the grip which he described is wonderful.
I'm so embarrassed, I've been squeezing my pencil with almost all 5 of my fingers. No wonder it was so painful all these years....
Even tho my ring finger doesn't touch the pen it hurts. It's been hurting for weeks after just one night of writing 4 pages. I was holding it really tight cause I was in a hurry
Can I know like how can we write without pressing the pen in the paper !!! I usually do that ... But I want to change it for saving the time in exams ... Even thought my handwriting was good , my problem is pressing a pen 🖊️ and writing please ...
im gonna cry i cant relax my arm. i feel it tense
Sorry, I don't agree with it doesn't matter how you hold your pen/pencil. There is a right way and a wrong way. The tripod method is the best way to avoid pain, discomfort and the development of bad habits that negatively affects your writing.
I’m in my 30s & have always held the pen wrong. I was never corrected as a child. I do have hand pain & a callus on my middle finger. However when I try the correct grip, I have no control over the pen. It’s so shaky and I can’t get it to feel comfortable. I’m determined to correct this because I use my hands a lot & am tired of the pain. Am I just not practicing enough? I have tried on and off through my life and never got it to feel natural. Does it just take a long time to fix? Please let me know how you’d advise someone who’s older on how to change their grip… thank you!
Write for 30 minutes a day for 2 weeks straight, I think you’ll see it’s very possible after that. You might even be completely adjusted to the new grip by then. And yes, your handwriting will be terrible while your adjust.
Thx for following up with me, I will try to make time to practice. I have to write a lot at my job as it involves a lot of paperwork, so I’ll still have to use the incorrect grip the majority of the time, though, because I can’t write legibly with the correct grip..
Thank you. So I know the normal way I hold the pencil is the right way.
I’m glad you mentioned about the shakiness. I thought it was just me :) I’m trying to adjust my grip and sometimes it feels like a pen just flies off the page lol
I have to really concentrate on relaxation… I realize a big part of my problem in my grip has been holding it too tight since I was a little kid (which is an extremely long time ago). All through grade school and university I always had a big bump on the first knuckle of my middle finger from the pressure applied there. Interestingly, the stress from the grip translates itself to my wrist which is where I get my pain.
Thanks, not only for the tips, but being an understanding “teacher“, readily recognizing what are the challenges, and how to overcome them.
You're welcome! Thanks for watching and leaving your thoughts.
Omg same issue with me !! 😨😨 Either I write with stress or pen flies on paper
This is 10x harder if u have pair of sweaty hands. This is a serious problem in my life 😢 My writing ability has an obstacle
I like your intentions, but your videos could be 1 minute long and still pass the same amount of information
@@nestihado ok
Help me my writing is bad when I tried to use relaxed grip but my writing is good when I hold my pen in a wrong way
anyone know if there are finger gloves for a small callus on the finger from excessive writing?
As a retired high school teacher it does make a difference how you hold a writing utensil. Incorrectly held tools lead to illegible penmanship and hand fatigue. In the meantime the rest of the class is waiting for these folks to finish taking notes. The entire class is slowed down. Seems there’s a lot for elementary schools to get right and stop not bothering.
Yo dude I've got the exact same black parker pen right here, ready to write with
when i write i hold my pen/pencil near the tip, and after around 10 minutes i have an intense pain in my thumb. thank you for this.
thank you so much, i used to hold my pen on my ring finger, and it even created a bruise because I really forced the ink out of it. This really helped because today I had a huge test and thankfully my finger didnt hurt as bad.
I'm here just cause my pen feels foreign and weird after just a day of not holding it 💀💀
Thanks
I have to say, I love your Parker pen! So slim and aerodynamic!
No wonder I always write ugly
I've always held my pen tightly and i've always known it. But the way I held it always made it so hard to keep it light.
Thank you so much. Literally just changing to this grip has completely changed how tiring writing is. I actually feel like I can lessen my grip, even if it'll take some practice still to do unconsciously.
Its not fair cuz If Ppl R Left handed (Me) Then keep hitting the metal thing on the side but it ur right handed U DONT EVEN HATE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT!
Just realised why my handwriting has been so terrible since i was 3 years old.
When i saw someone having absolute terrible handwriting and holding the pen the same way As i do i knew that it’s about my grip.
Thanks brother
I hook my wrist and the movement comes from the wrist. This was never corrected. It’s very hard and I get fatigued easily. My handwriting is also bad and I didn’t know it was bc of this. I’man adult and learning to write properly for the first time lol.
Thanks for this i have written with basically all my fingers (except my pinkey) gripping the pen/pencil for most of my life. And everytime I wrote for long periods of times my hand and fingers would always be sore afterwards.
Now i am going to make a change and finally make it easier on myself whenever i have to write anything down.
U basically write tripod way but it’s makin like a lump form on my finger and it’s been like that since elementary school😂, how can I get rid of this lump?
Omg thank you very much! I always have pain in my middle finger then it swells alot. I really love this channel your one my favourite youtubers already😍 thank youuu!!!!!
Thank you for teaching how to write ,draw Of my stlyus pen/pencil THANKSS FOR HELPING MEEE🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩I am stRuggling hard to write,draw 😫BRHH
Hello, I can’t write. My handwriting is illegible. I need serious help
I always having trouble holding the pencil it’s making my fingers loose and a SPEACIL THANK YOU.😊
I think I actually first learned the correct way, then got fucked up afterwards somehow? At least I don't remember it being THIS painful & uncomfortable and I used to write a lot more. Then again I do have anxiety that affects me physically in other ways too. Could that be the reason, does anyone have similar experiences...? I literally feel so stupid
I had a very firm hrip on my pen before, and i know it is ineffective because after just 15 minutes i get tired with writing easily. When i was in 6th grade i searched what is the proper pen hold and they said the tripod method, when i first tried it my writing looks like a wreck. But now i am getting used to it (grade 11) but my main concern is that my thumb pressed down to the tip of my pointer which hurts like hell. How do i resolve this?
So discovering that i write in the academic way is very fun.
But i still have pain because my main point of contact is actually my little finger.
Wich cause pain.
I have very shaky hands so.this may be why tbh
Why i cant write with my left hand
i dont grip it strong at the pencil. for some reason all the tension is at my ring and pinky side of my hand. maybe im tensing anchoring my hand to the paper? i also have tension in my wrist but thats not really surprising
does having a thicker pencil help at all?
Thicker pencil doesn't really help unless you have some condition that makes it painful for you to holder your fingers close together. You simply have to let the quality of your handwriting suffer while you write with less tension. It's very uncomfortable, but pretty straightforward.
Sir is there a solution to the pain caused by a lateral quadrupod grip in which I was trained?? Please help
Yes, everything I discuss in the video besides the tripod grips applies the same.
i have to write 5 assignments by tomorrow and so here i m :)
I use to hold my pencil correctly until i learned to use chopsticks but I guess I would hold those wrong too and it affecteted how I hold my pencil so now im relearning how to properly hold it 😂 Thanks a lot chopsticks
I can't change the amount of force in my grip my writing is horrible without
Used to use both hands but can't any more
Also my hands hurt minutes after writing very bad
It's bad enough my teachers asked what was going on
Thanks seems like my teachers never taught this 30 years ago
What is the name of this pen?