EASILY COUNTER LIGHT WEAPON | Deepwoken

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  • @truck5698
    @truck5698 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Hell na after this video, Agressive Posturr on a dagger is a must 💀

    • @justsomerandomperson3278
      @justsomerandomperson3278 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      talent doesn't even work

    • @innerapathy
      @innerapathy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@justsomerandomperson3278 talent works

    • @hikaru5234
      @hikaru5234 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@innerapathy bro is the talent custodian

    • @antililly.
      @antililly. ปีที่แล้ว

      Doesn't work

    • @innerapathy
      @innerapathy ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@antililly. what

  • @Phan7055
    @Phan7055 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I been doing this for awhile it made me go from hating fighting dagger to actually preferring it. Who would’ve thought a little strafing could be so op

  • @nail7874
    @nail7874 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    i cant believe people didnt know this already
    and the same thing works on some medium weapons too but you have to get parried at like max range

    • @Depressoclinical
      @Depressoclinical ปีที่แล้ว +2

      so true

    • @spicedcoffin
      @spicedcoffin ปีที่แล้ว

      NAIL FROM CC

    • @cycy8699
      @cycy8699 ปีที่แล้ว

      you forget that this is roblox and what the majority of players is

    • @nail7874
      @nail7874 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cycy8699 true sometimes i expect too much from roblox players

  • @megathedank5020
    @megathedank5020 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I like it when a frost/attunementless dagger users says "hold S more"

    • @coreykemper7632
      @coreykemper7632 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Med no attunment

    • @megathedank5020
      @megathedank5020 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@coreykemper7632 i hate them also

    • @nikapanda160
      @nikapanda160 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ye don't mind if i do hold S >:3

    • @buenosdiasuwu3713
      @buenosdiasuwu3713 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bro a gale dagger said I held S too much, my guy you have at least 3 gap closers, one of which is a teleport

    • @megathedank5020
      @megathedank5020 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nikapanda160 i use thunder and a spear so i dont mind if i held S and had a wayward on every mantra

  • @imahumanperson7045
    @imahumanperson7045 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    You just made my life 12x easier my wife returned my bills have been payed and my salary increased by tenfold

  • @swagzza1048
    @swagzza1048 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    awesome video !! Love the glass beach pfp

  • @steku.u2
    @steku.u2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i think the more concise answer is outrange them. just outrange them. light users are fast, but are outranged by practically everything so keep your distance while fighting them (but don't run because that's cringe)

  • @zero-wj7ve
    @zero-wj7ve ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good against apes that just spam m1 after you parry

  • @JustLo_
    @JustLo_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Your spells aren't working on me."
    © That one rapier user

  • @UmCaraNormalnumPlanetanormal
    @UmCaraNormalnumPlanetanormal ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly true, you just kinda gotta play as annoying as possible against dagger users lol

  • @yuriarcanjo4337
    @yuriarcanjo4337 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Daggers mains: How to counter this
    Just Get Bear trap after parry your enemy S Button is slower
    HAVE FUN

  • @ThePurple_e
    @ThePurple_e ปีที่แล้ว +1

    u have saved my life

  • @Jexcalio
    @Jexcalio ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fact that a majority of people didn't know this for so long and got dagger (imo) unnecessarily nerfed is stupid and an oversight from the devs. Dagger was always easily outranged my most weapons and relied on gun to close distance. Not to mention that spear hard counters dagger. If anything it's offhand guns that made dagger seem stronger than it actually was.

    • @fenaerii36
      @fenaerii36  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok but they also have 2 damage buff talents and swing at 1.05x (in a reaction ping based game)

    • @Jexcalio
      @Jexcalio ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fenaerii36 all they have is 1.05x swing speed, and 2 damage talents??? It has one damage talent which allows a CHANCE for a critical hit that's purely based off rng and the others just allow your crits to do more damage to ARMOR. I don't know why people mention daggers hitspeed as if it's not literally the only thing it has going for it. It's outranged by everything except fist and itself. Point blank dagger did not deserve the nerf it got (unless they slightly increased hitspeed to balance the endlag out) if we are going to accommodate for people having crappy ping there will be absolutely no end to the nerfs that will have to be implemented for those with bad wifi or bad regions. Dagger at the moment is forced into a specific playstyle and practically unusable for pve purposes. It's no wonder so many dagger users use frostdraw and/or chilling enchant.

    • @fenaerii36
      @fenaerii36  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jexcalio I hope u realize they only lose out on like 6 damage but get 0.3x more attack speed and a high damage and range sidearm gun and a nearly 100 damage crit

    • @fenaerii36
      @fenaerii36  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jexcalio Knifes journey and true pain are 2 damage talents
      Let’s not forget alloyed tanto is 1 less than a gladius btw

    • @Jexcalio
      @Jexcalio ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fenaerii36 6 damage difference is a lot when you look at the range of damage throughout all weapons. it only seems like a small difference on paper. Also we can't justify dagger being nerfed because of offhand gun, literally every light weapon can use offhand gun. If we nerf dagger because gun is op we are basically encouraging them to use gun just to make up for the loss. If offhand gun is too strong, then nerf offhand gun not dagger even if the addition is strong it's only strong because of the addition. Also true pain is not a damage buff I just checked the description. True pain just allows your critical attack to also have a CHANCE at proccing a critical hit (an rng damage multiplier) which is a rare talent that you need another rare talent (knife's journey) to even get. I can't really say much about tanto since it's literally a glorified sword with fist hitspeed but that's a specific weapon issue not an issue with the whole dagger class. I think the hitspeed for dagger is justified for the damage loss not to mention that you automatically have more chances to be parried just because you need to swing more to equate damage to other weapon categories, that's just basic math.

  • @Calmirly
    @Calmirly ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you, I really appreciate this technique.

  • @joejoe-cs8ct
    @joejoe-cs8ct ปีที่แล้ว +2

    also whenever they try to close the gap just roll backwards

  • @OTAontop
    @OTAontop ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whipping out the central dirk

  • @Samson37592
    @Samson37592 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    as a fist main i hate this Agressive Posture doesnt even seem to work

  • @thechalenger2992
    @thechalenger2992 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And this is why a good dagger player will use lots of agility

  • @dorshaldoes5055
    @dorshaldoes5055 ปีที่แล้ว

    People when the dagger user actually knows their weakness

  • @cycy8699
    @cycy8699 ปีที่แล้ว

    everyone gangsta until the final toll

  • @sharkNpro
    @sharkNpro ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How to counter heavy user spamming m1 and playing range

  • @Tea12515
    @Tea12515 ปีที่แล้ว

    the lights final toll in question:

  • @ray49284
    @ray49284 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yessirrr

  • @Kat-fs1oj
    @Kat-fs1oj ปีที่แล้ว

    HOW TO COUNTER LIGHT WEAPONS
    ........just abuse their weakness lmao

    • @fenaerii36
      @fenaerii36  ปีที่แล้ว

      the whole point of an informational video is to inform

  • @drepyburpb8484
    @drepyburpb8484 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watch them be a dumbo in the comments asking them to buff dagger

  • @Emanuel10348
    @Emanuel10348 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this works best with a spears /great swords and shield

  • @sadacekiller1238
    @sadacekiller1238 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you fen, very cool😳

  • @monkey3101
    @monkey3101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You when you realise deepwoken has 9000 mobility options and dagger is still meta due to this. This makes it seem like it works on all dagger users when all it takes is pressing W and F as dagger

    • @SupaikuKun_
      @SupaikuKun_ ปีที่แล้ว

      thats not true literally holding s is a mega counter especially since the endlag nerf which is too much endlag on a DAGGER

    • @Darkman-ur7ob
      @Darkman-ur7ob ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SupaikuKun_ not really tbh if you cant change your playstyle at the slightest as a dagger user your gonna lose like some npc

    • @vizpurpIe
      @vizpurpIe ปีที่แล้ว

      when you realise dagger isnt meta anymore and heavy crystal is way more broken

    • @monkey3101
      @monkey3101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vizpurpIe frostdraw saint jay with dagger far better. Ice is just meta on everything

    • @vizpurpIe
      @vizpurpIe ปีที่แล้ว

      @@monkey3101 its not, any top player rn is either ice fist, crystal heavy or thunder med, none are dagger so its not meta

  • @bacon6063
    @bacon6063 ปีที่แล้ว

    fenaerii what happened to the build? we havent seen a vid with it

  • @theemperorsalad
    @theemperorsalad ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In your opinion
    in PVE, PVP and everything else
    what is the strongest Stat?
    Heavy?
    Medium?
    Or Light?
    (heavy = every weapons with heavy requirements, the same goes on for Medium and light)

    • @RexGavnith
      @RexGavnith ปีที่แล้ว +1

      heavy just look at the combos people can do with crypt balde

    • @Toyu67
      @Toyu67 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pvp- medium, (quick feints are deadly and range is considerable with very good dmg on Weps like serpents edge, also perfect for mixing up as both slow wind up mantras like fire blade AND fast ones like exhaustion strike or thunder kick are effective mix up)
      But overall is heavy, it’s insane in pve and pvp and it’s best for bossraiding too.

    • @monkey3101
      @monkey3101 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dagger. This video makes it seem like the counterplay is simple, but dagger users still have 1.05x swing speed and 28 damage on a weapon, this makes parry trades impossible, and they can just engage and parry at the same time. Dagger utilises high pressure. It is absurdly broken, and has dmg increasing talents on top of it.

    • @Toyu67
      @Toyu67 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@monkey3101 in terms of light weapon fist is just the best atm, insane talents, broken daze mechanics and literal unparryable anims paired with stuff like big herbalist hat. Also it’s better than dagger cuz of the end lag nerf dagger got while fist stayed the was very noticeable

    • @monkey3101
      @monkey3101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Toyu67 fists didn’t get nerfed with end lag bcz it doesn’t have 1.05x swing speed

  • @formalpudding8504
    @formalpudding8504 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Next video how to counter fenaerii

  • @crusaderjin8929
    @crusaderjin8929 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is that hat he was wearing looks like the one from mini and how do u get it?

  • @thenermer
    @thenermer ปีที่แล้ว +2

    SHOTEL SUPREMECY

  • @ThatIdiotNamedKiyo
    @ThatIdiotNamedKiyo ปีที่แล้ว

    Me with my crazy slots fist build: i play both sides, so that i always come out ontop

  • @realshaperio
    @realshaperio ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That’s great and all, but I main dagger gale and shadow, the ultimate counter to this

  • @notkai5634
    @notkai5634 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was it you in inu's video

  • @mr.shattered9679
    @mr.shattered9679 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, how did to fight with NPC using light weapon + spam parry?

  • @nikapanda160
    @nikapanda160 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please make a Counter video to all Heavy weapons too! MEDIUM WEAPON ON TOP!
    But fr tho this method works the same if u have a Greatsword and ur against a medium user so i want to see how to counter this since im the mdeium user and i cant deal with heavy users.. or blunt weapon users.. T_T

  • @StormMe
    @StormMe ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i love ur vids

  • @Slintyy
    @Slintyy ปีที่แล้ว

    im never touching my faceless slot ever again

  • @MonoBirb
    @MonoBirb ปีที่แล้ว

    Aggressive posture rapier with lightning assault is my build I think I’ll be fine

  • @bitd1807
    @bitd1807 ปีที่แล้ว

    i was just starting a minos prime build (fist thundercall) and then this video came out i feel bounties are about to get 10 times harder
    magnet spark jolt grab carry me rn

    • @sim4025
      @sim4025 ปีที่แล้ว

      I made a minos prime build with attunementless with dawnwalker if that works well
      Sold with dark ages honestly

  • @existence9994
    @existence9994 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys didn't already know this?

  • @shayde3428
    @shayde3428 ปีที่แล้ว

    Light users: “time to get taunt and aggressive posture”-🤓

  • @azze7212
    @azze7212 ปีที่แล้ว

    The answer to the thumbnail us zone

  • @sneakysong
    @sneakysong ปีที่แล้ว +1

    glass beach

  • @sunoo639
    @sunoo639 ปีที่แล้ว

    All fun and dandy until the light user has showstopper 😄

    • @irobo_games7375
      @irobo_games7375 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      40 second cooldown and dazes for 1.5 seconds 😃

  • @yacqub
    @yacqub ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what if they start holding w

    • @fenaerii36
      @fenaerii36  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hold s even harder

    • @Foxscrub
      @Foxscrub ปีที่แล้ว

      get 2 keyboards to hold s double

  • @maniac5539
    @maniac5539 ปีที่แล้ว

    aggressive posture😈😈😈

  • @Pattila
    @Pattila ปีที่แล้ว

    So what if they using guns?

  • @bananangaming9217
    @bananangaming9217 ปีที่แล้ว

    would this work for higher range light weapons like rapier or jus karita

  • @theamazingcody2794
    @theamazingcody2794 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    fenaerii is my father

  • @karolightcornsyrup
    @karolightcornsyrup ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hi

  • @alineoliveira2137
    @alineoliveira2137 ปีที่แล้ว

    i am dagger and gale user, i just spam gale dash and R, is really easy win a fight.

  • @innerapathy
    @innerapathy ปีที่แล้ว +4

    fenaerii you know this applies to basically every weapon not just light right
    anyways yeah i guess it works just dont fight a light user who took 20 doses of adderall before the match

    • @fenaerii36
      @fenaerii36  ปีที่แล้ว

      ya just works best on light though cause of their toothpick range

    • @joejoe-cs8ct
      @joejoe-cs8ct ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fenaerii36 “toothpick range”
      gun:

    • @fenaerii36
      @fenaerii36  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@joejoe-cs8ct Good thing gun has a shit vertical hitbox

    • @LeisaOwens1
      @LeisaOwens1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fenaerii36 thats what im saying pimp

    • @hikaru5234
      @hikaru5234 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fenaerii36 serpents edge can do this against every weapon in the game

  • @grinchgamingofficial5141
    @grinchgamingofficial5141 ปีที่แล้ว

    only works on players that are garbage though lol
    People try to do this when I use fist but I just parry them and hold W until I get close enough to m1, its not harder than fhat

  • @qron3016
    @qron3016 ปีที่แล้ว

    who couldve thought using their weakness against them would work??

  • @ven5707
    @ven5707 ปีที่แล้ว

    Breaking news: Deepwoken player discovers the concept of basic spacing.

    • @fenaerii36
      @fenaerii36  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      breaking news: deepwoken player doesn’t find out what an informational video is for

  • @Jaziye
    @Jaziye ปีที่แล้ว

    No plz, I just wanna use fists for fun mane...

  • @remsly3274
    @remsly3274 ปีที่แล้ว

    i do this with serpents edge already 💀

  • @nand1491
    @nand1491 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    omg!!!

  • @Bee_a1
    @Bee_a1 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a light user I am crying myself rn

  • @Toyu67
    @Toyu67 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mfw gun offhand:

  • @CloudedSeoul
    @CloudedSeoul ปีที่แล้ว

    Me: guns :)

  • @thatguyfromtheplace
    @thatguyfromtheplace ปีที่แล้ว

    legend says they are still saying "first" to this day (pin me or vaktus members will be in ur bed tonight)

  • @_.-jen-._
    @_.-jen-._ ปีที่แล้ว

    rapiers?

  • @garbranola7853
    @garbranola7853 ปีที่แล้ว

    rapid slashes

    • @fenaerii36
      @fenaerii36  ปีที่แล้ว

      ya true but then again they cant use rapid slashes 2 times every second

    • @Emanuel10348
      @Emanuel10348 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fenaerii36 also a good player can just parry the rapid slashes

  • @MollyAtTheGraves
    @MollyAtTheGraves ปีที่แล้ว

    Dagger is overrated

  • @uhmraven.
    @uhmraven. ปีที่แล้ว

    smash

  • @nohomotv8751
    @nohomotv8751 ปีที่แล้ว

    hold s and spam m1