It's not so much about everyone jumping in the ring, it's more about the fact everyone distanced themselves from Joe after the fight because of their loyalty for JJ, just because JJ had beef with Joe at the time doesn't mean everyone had to bandwagon and be a part of it. At one point you were all friends not sure why that should of changed.
@@zaywyo4749 no excuses. Regardless of whether they were boxing, you have to at least drop a fair play or something. I did state levels for boxing two years and if my close friend were to do the same, I would be pissed to.
@@yuckesh calfreezy was always closer to jj, wdym he snaked joe?, im pretty sure cal has a huge amount of respect towards joe and we dont know what goes behind the scenes, but in the heat of the moment ofc cal would celebrate jjs win
@@yuckesh cal and sidemen been close since the fifa days & you’re acting like you know what happened behind the scenes lmfaoo when jj won you’re not gonna think oh let me congratulate the winner noooo you’re gonna be like holy shit my boy won all the adrenaline that’s going down you’re not gonna think about nothing else they all probably congratulated them anyways
@@David-fv7vt exactly he was fighting with his mental health problems n it took a toll on his closest friends. He even says in the podcast in the lead up he blocked out everyone
@@DmccullochD yeah he was confident, and that’s what needed before a fight. ofc he lost, which is sad but things obviously happen for a reason so i’m glad jj won too
@@amysmart1246 He was more on the proud side more than being confident and he was definitely an ass and noone can deny that. Also joe was just butthurt because of freezy and not other sidemen. Lol i shouldn't say this but being that confident to only be just destroyed like that is shameful
Lol. Joe expects the sidemen to go “praise” him first. He’s lucky enough to be praised by Tobi. Sidemen were just there for JJ. Like Simon said in the video. For Cal, it’s his choice isn’t? Why so demanding?
You have to understand it was his most embarrassing moment ever in his life and people he thought liked him are jumping and screaming up and down in his face while he’s at an all time low. By all means celebrate as you say you prefer jj and are there for him but clearly it was only Tobi at the moment who thought about joes feelings. That’s what joe was annoyed about. I do agree tho he was way too aggressive with his point on his podcast but you can understand the overreaction to something so sensitive to him.
Also idk how you two think it’s unfair of joe to be upset about people he thought liked him celebrating at his most embarrassing moment right in front of his face straight away. I feel like there is no sympathy at all there, if jj lost and saw a lot of people he thought liked him celebrating with joe you’d understand why jj is still upset about that..... joes no different just coz you’re not that close to him
@@NA-qw2uc first of all the fight was over three years ago and joe really needs to get over it everyone else has moved on since then i dont see why he can’t secondly they weren’t celebrating the fact that joe lost they were celebrating JJ’s win
But you know what's messed up. He said deji is actually scared of Gib and the jj beef is just a cover up. Joe deserves it. He makes such statements which will only keep him away from having decent friends.
@@ellen4407 you go and fight one of your old mates with millions of people watching and you would want people you thought liked you to console you after the most embarrassing moment of your life. Put yourself in his shoes before you start waffling how people should act
I know it sounded like joe was being an arse but his quote was “it’s like all them TH-cam mugs and how quickly they dropped me”and Tobi was the only one to talk to him after the fight
Randolph completely missed the point. Joe didn’t expect you to go to him instead of JJ. I think he just felt that because you all used to be mates and went on holiday etc. then you would at least wish him well and check if he was ok. Would’ve only taken a second and it’s just the decent thing to do. Totally get as JJs mate you get caught up in the moment. I feel like he feels like the community threw him to the side after fight was over.
Randolph and Simon are obviously good mates of JJ. The sidemen as well would obviously be on jj’s side. I Think Joes issue was way more with Calfreezy and the other ‘hanger ons’ (the TH-cam types who made a few vids back in 2017 and live off that fame today appearing in other vids.)
Freezy was mega snakey , they made really good content together and looked like such good mates and bonded well - so dunno what happened it’s a shame it decided joe from everyone as joe is the realist youtuber
He was specifically referring to the fact that after the fight a lot of people didn’t even check on him and just completely dropped him as a “mate”. He wasn’t just talking about immediately after the fight
It's like if your best mate boxed a different friend of yours... You'd celebrate with your best mate but you'd still go up to your friend which is exactly what Tobi did and what Joe was getting at
I think Joe meant more the people who were mutual friends with both Joe and JJ, or were "neutral" in the fight, rather than the Sidemen or Randolph who were obviously team JJ. After he lost he was basically excluded from the UK scene. Even if guys like Freezy were more friends with JJ than Joe it's still a piece of shit move to completely cut all ties from Joe as soon as he lost.
Joe is acting like the sidemen and friends have never talked to him since the fight happened and I can guarantee you that they have all talked and consoled joe since then
ngl at the time i thought you were all mates, seemed a bit off that you all celebrated in front of his face rather than just partying after, then no one but Tobi speaking to him
@@ivandrago782 they were having a boxing match what’re u expecting for them to kiss... joe considering disrespected jj too and the sidemen. Joes still crying about it years later as well everyone has moved on except him
man shut up when u dont know shit joe is just salty cos he lost and he was talking mad shit before the fight love to see he getting beaten up by jj and getting disrespected lmao
Regarding the Joe situation. Obviously in the moment you’re gassed that JJ has won as he is your better mate, but imagine being in joes position. All your supposed mates are jumping around in your face that you lost.
They were there for jj. That's why they were sat in jj's area. If they were there for joe, they wouldv'e sat in the area where joe's family, theo, luke and his other friends sat.
This wasn’t like the fight JJ had with Logan where you had your own camps. The lines were blurred because Joe had friends that also supported JJ and whilst it’s fine to congratulate JJ on his win, you would think that people who were friends with Joe who had done videos with him would also consider how he feels in that moment. The fact that Tobi is the only one who said something to him is poor. I get your saying it’s not fair and you tried to talk to him after but I think Joe knew that the sidemen would all be in JJs corner but people like calfreezy and callux needed to be more aware of themselves. Not to mention how they all dropped him like a hot potato straight after. He mentions that in his podcast but there is little to mention of that on here - why did everyone just drop him after that happened to him?
Randolph Simon were clearly on JJs side. As were all the sidemen. I feel his issue was more on the other ones who were more ‘neutral’ like Clafreezy. Tbf it showed them as clout chasers cos I imagine they would have been on Joe’s side if he won…
A lot of people are saying that everyone cut joe off. But isn't joe the one that cut everyone off ? If you look at any interaction joe's had with the other uk guys (I'l thinking ksi v logan 2 build up), you can see that they're cool with him. Even theo has said that joe distanced himself from the uk scene.
And wasn't joe with them most of the times with each boxing event he was on commentary and interviewing and he was there with the other uk youtubers so what's his problem is he begging for a collab or something?
@@djt6861 he sounds mad salty to me cause he’s done a podcast with jj and he’s 100% spoken to the other guys in between and yet he says this now out of the blue like he’s always had this hatred
Yeah he did it with Elliot. He obviously stopped talking to everyone so he could train even Theo and Luke and when the fight ended he came back to reality to realise people didn’t wait around for him to come back. Which tbf can you blame them? If my mate ghosted me for 6 months I’d get on with my life it’s not deep it’s just how things work you can’t just go straight back to how things were
I think Joe was talking mainly about Freezy, they were a lot closer than the other boys. I also believe that if they never had the beef joe would have appeared on something like sidemen tinder or at least done some videos with the sidemen boys. He’s not been on anyone’s channel since the fight. Who really stays in contact with him?
Fr Idk why he’s made the podcast joe talking about all these guys who are supposed to be his friends but then he still jump on a vid with Elliot who bashed him to the guy he was fighting
@@davidheaven2961 Because Elliot reached out and wanted to settle the beef, i guess Joe's whole point in the little rant is that no one reached out to him at any point
This situation has nothing to do with Elliot. Leave the damn guy alone, people still going on about that one fucking text he sent as if he is a murdered. You should watch the latest wafflin and understand how 6 years on the guy still gets bullied relentlessly. Joe is a fucking adult and is responsible for the words coming out of his own mouth.
Joe was pissed because nobody came to say well done to him after as you should when you were mates with all those lads just months before and he has every right to feel that way, callfreezy said nothing, I'd be so pissed if I was joe
He blocked himself off from everyone due to his mental health problems then in the lead up to the fight even his closest friends like Theo etc he wasn’t talking to 🤷🏽♂️ he expects ppl to do stuff for him when he is that lad that wud have done the same thing m celebrated like that. His ego getting in the way of understanding that unfortunately
@@zainarif1654 he said his trainers told him to block everyone off so I feel bad as it wasnt his fault but also falling out with elliot before the fight he basically went into the fight alreadh going to lose but any youtive could have hit him up before or after the fight saying they were proud of him or some shit
Jumping in the ring like that in fighting is commonly seen as disrespectful that’s why I think he got like that but with no one being fighters I feel like he can’t hold that against people
The point Weller was making is that out of respect, people shouldn't have jumped in the ring in front of his face, which he's absolutely right imo. While most of the guys in the ring were closer with JJ, Joe obviously considered them mates too (especially Freezy), so it was pretty disrespectful. Also, he probably didn't mention it straight after because I doubt he wants an apology or anything, because what's done is done and it's not a situation of wanting that attention, it's just about principles and feeling disrespected. That's how I interpreted it
Thats ridiculous. They shouldn't celebrate with the person they feel closer to because it hurts Joes feelings. Surely he knew the sidemen were rooting for their own.
Nah. You can still congratulate JJ obviously. But there’s no harm in congratulating Joe aswell for fighting. You guys are sounding pretty childish honestly...
I see people mention how Cal has been friends with JJ way longer and was friends with JJ first but you’re allowed multiple friends, you shouldn’t have to snake one friend because you’re closer with the other or something like that
Joe was more showing his frustration at how freezy jumped in the ring and celebrated in his face even tho they are close mates. Asswell the sidemen didn’t put him in the charity match when he asked to be in it, and there’s bare people saying he just distanced himself? He did distance himself but he was still excluded a lot after the beef, which ain’t fair considering the beef should had been done and settled🤷🏼♂️
I think what Joe was getting at more is that after the fight everyone seemed to just fuck him off especially people he saw as mates like freezy no hate I love them all but it was very clear that it happened nobody wanted anything to do with Joe after the fight
lets be honest people shouldn't have jumped in the ring like that. Its just disrespectful. Celebrate after the result has been announced and everyone leaves the ring. Have respect for the competition someone should've stopped everyone from getting in in the first place
He was literally having this conversation while talking to Elliot Crawford, the guy who messaged JJ about joe's personal info and remember it was Elliot who contacted jj not jj contacting him
@@yab2842 i don't care about the elliot jj situation?? There is a reason they all got kicked out they should not have been in there... Everytime a boxing match happens do you see all the fighters friends storm the ring?? No because its out of order. Have respect for both fighters.
@@jamydodger556 it's in the heat of the moment though. It's the first time they were watching their close friend fight, and emotions took over. They never did that in Logan fights etc. I don't think they were trying to be disrespectful
That exact podcast talked about how miscommunication caused that issue to spiral far further than it would've if there was communication. Your comment is pretty dumb
@@JoshiVlogsOfficial I think someone should take a look through cals youtube channel and see 98% of his vids have been with the sidemen, troops or tower lads. The other 2% include other uk youtubers like Weller. He was never "best mates" with him and was always going to be on JJ's team and that's why he was in his family & friends section at the fight.
A fight is a fight you pick a side and you stick to your side its fighting for example jake v askren people like masvidal wont praise askren if he beats Paul he will bitch about it so its fighting you pick a side and you are loyal to your fighter
Look tbh moral compass of the sidemen is Tobi he’s the only one that did the right thing n went n said good fight. I get you there for Ksi but own up to a mistake that’s all n move on. Tobi doing that exposes how bad, especially freezy, that was. A simple pat on the shoulder or good fight to someone you call a friend absolutely in order.
guys you all can be mates and root for that one guy thats been there for you. But that does not mean that you can't go up to the opponent and pat him on his back etc etc. Tobi as we all now is in the same place as you all are with JJ and yet he was the only one pattin Joe on his back... Randolph what you said in the first minute of this clip is complete bullshit.
Makes sense that Joe is targetting Freezy. Clearly Joe felt his relationship with Freezy was better than what Freezy saw it as. Or maybe thats the type of person Freezy is. I'm assuming Joe didn't bring it up and it was just something he thought of in the flow of the conversation. Otherwise, it just feels a bit childish again I don't know the context.
It’s not about which fighter they’re better friends with. It’s disrespectful to jump in the ring, barge Joe aside and celebrate in front of him. It’s made even worse by the fact that most of them were friends with Joe.
i think you need to understand that joe is gonna feel hurt as he considered you all mates still. it seems like nobody even text or called him up afterwards, hes been very vocal about his mental health. but i dont think it was malicious i think you should talk to eachother
I get that they claim they know him longer or better but half the ppl in that ring werent even sidemen and only took ksi’s side cus he has more subs and is a celebrity
Nahh you all are forgetting joe and cal weren't that close anymore. Joe was always filming videos with elliott, nobody liked elliot AND joe was dissing JJ a lot so yeah cal sided with who he was closer at the time
i think also the reason joe considers that moment the worse in his life in on how disappointing he is in himself from the performance he gave. he didn't throw any punches and by the time he did it was too late and the hype train went from him to jj. and the youtube boxing he started completely left him behind
Joe wasn’t really bothered about that ... he’s pissed that as soon after the fight every one dropped him on the TH-cam scene no one makes vids with him or speaks to him or anything
i honestly want them to talk about what happened in US when JJ got RAN UP ON and cal and randolf did absolutely NOTHING about it! (Since were talking about what happened after stuff) Just curious!
Ngl you guys were out of order yeah you can support your guy but if you were really friends with both you would see if he was okay after, your lack of empathy in that moment made one of the worst moments in his life like a double blow.
Joe was talking about Calfreezy not the sidemen. I think why ppl believe that Joe is talking about the sidemen is bc he brought up Tobi who is a sidemen member but he is only bringing up tobi bc he was the only one that went up to him. I get why he is mad bc he was bareeeeee close with cal back then and after seeing cal jumping in like that a celebrating. Ik cal is friends with JJ too but i feel like Joe and Cal were closer back then
I would kinda feel the same ways as joe, cos if my so called friends turns against me in this case cal then I would feel left alone. Cos calfrezy seems like he kinda backstabbed joe after jj won and joe felts left alone from the uk scene
People may hate me for saying this but I think Callux and cal freeze definitely biggest clout chasers in whole TH-cam uk scene. Look how callux jumped on the diss track with Ethan to diss Jj when jj left uk when there was no beef between callux and jj . Jj and callux were friends before Ethan scene was there. And look how calfreezy left joe when he lost the fight and sided with Jj.just for clout. Even calfreezy was so close with joe weller before the fight. It would have been a whole different story if joe would have won. Just saying Edit: this is only my opinion.
He's talking about after the fight how everyone cut him off just because Joe and JJ had issues. But you lot didn't need to jump on the bandwagon as if JJ had a leash on you
It's not so much about everyone jumping in the ring, it's more about the fact everyone distanced themselves from Joe after the fight because of their loyalty for JJ, just because JJ had beef with Joe at the time doesn't mean everyone had to bandwagon and be a part of it. At one point you were all friends not sure why that should of changed.
Joe distanced himself. Theo has said this multiple times on the podcast.
Joe went away and never talked to anyone. He did that himself. They had no beef with him
Joe likely is the one who did it. Maybe noone reached out but its noones fault. Joe is moaning about nothing
If u listen to the podcast, joe didnt allow anyone in his dressing room, he distance himself fron others
@@xratwrwsrkalksnx52 that was immediately after the fight, im talking after the fact.
Joe was really talking about freezy i think, he snaked it
I said the same as well he said it about “The Sidemen” but you can tell it was directed at Calfreezy and they’ve never really been friends since
@@brianmurphy2096 why would he say it about the sidemen, they’re obviously there for Jj
@@marcuslee698 did you even read his whole comment lol
@@JPizzy did you not read the first part of his comment ?
WEEZY
Freezy 100% snaked Joe. Regardless of whether he met JJ first or nah, he and Joe were bare close and that celebration was a big flick to the face imo
Freezy was closer to the sidemen
@@zaywyo4749 no excuses. Regardless of whether they were boxing, you have to at least drop a fair play or something. I did state levels for boxing two years and if my close friend were to do the same, I would be pissed to.
@@yuckesh calfreezy was always closer to jj, wdym he snaked joe?, im pretty sure cal has a huge amount of respect towards joe and we dont know what goes behind the scenes, but in the heat of the moment ofc cal would celebrate jjs win
@@xratwrwsrkalksnx52 they had merch together ffs. They were really close and if you don't even take a second to congratulate joe you snaked him.
@@yuckesh cal and sidemen been close since the fifa days & you’re acting like you know what happened behind the scenes lmfaoo when jj won you’re not gonna think oh let me congratulate the winner noooo you’re gonna be like holy shit my boy won all the adrenaline that’s going down you’re not gonna think about nothing else they all probably congratulated them anyways
What I think joe is getting at is that during the build up pretty much every UK youtuber dropped him completely and jumped on the JJ bandwagon
Na literally everyone wanted jj to lose that fight apart from sidemen and stuff
Because there all closer to JJ? They all knew jj for way longer.
Joe stopped uploading and distanced himself from the uk youtubers after it
Has no one to blame but him self
@@David-fv7vt exactly he was fighting with his mental health problems n it took a toll on his closest friends. He even says in the podcast in the lead up he blocked out everyone
@@David-fv7vt yeah but that was after the fight (days later) not immediately after the fight ended (to which Joe was referring to).
i’m so happy these comments are standing up for what’s right and not just calling joe a prick without even knowing anything
Did you see the way he acted pre fight? Hes an ass and I'm glad he lost. Hope it humbled him.
@@DmccullochD yeah he was confident, and that’s what needed before a fight. ofc he lost, which is sad but things obviously happen for a reason so i’m glad jj won too
@@amysmart1246 He was more on the proud side more than being confident and he was definitely an ass and noone can deny that.
Also joe was just butthurt because of freezy and not other sidemen.
Lol i shouldn't say this but being that confident to only be just destroyed like that is shameful
@@DmccullochDeveryone’s like that to build hype for the fight and also he literally congratulated jj on a video later
He’s not talking about you, probably none of the sidemen it’s more about the people like Cal who we’re good mates
He is talking about everyone bc if is ehat u are saying he wouldn't have mentioned Tobi
None of the sidemen? He literally said “the sidemen” on the wafflin podcast
HE SAYS SIDEMEN
MENTION TOBI
"I don't think he was talking about YOU"
hhhaha😂
Joe said sidemen bums
Lol. Joe expects the sidemen to go “praise” him first. He’s lucky enough to be praised by Tobi. Sidemen were just there for JJ. Like Simon said in the video. For Cal, it’s his choice isn’t? Why so demanding?
You have to understand it was his most embarrassing moment ever in his life and people he thought liked him are jumping and screaming up and down in his face while he’s at an all time low. By all means celebrate as you say you prefer jj and are there for him but clearly it was only Tobi at the moment who thought about joes feelings. That’s what joe was annoyed about. I do agree tho he was way too aggressive with his point on his podcast but you can understand the overreaction to something so sensitive to him.
Also idk how you two think it’s unfair of joe to be upset about people he thought liked him celebrating at his most embarrassing moment right in front of his face straight away. I feel like there is no sympathy at all there, if jj lost and saw a lot of people he thought liked him celebrating with joe you’d understand why jj is still upset about that..... joes no different just coz you’re not that close to him
@@NA-qw2uc first of all the fight was over three years ago and joe really needs to get over it everyone else has moved on since then i dont see why he can’t secondly they weren’t celebrating the fact that joe lost they were celebrating JJ’s win
But you know what's messed up.
He said deji is actually scared of Gib and the jj beef is just a cover up. Joe deserves it. He makes such statements which will only keep him away from having decent friends.
@@sharanp8931 bruh u need to grow up cus none of this boxing shit really matters. At the end of the day they are all human.
@@ellen4407 you go and fight one of your old mates with millions of people watching and you would want people you thought liked you to console you after the most embarrassing moment of your life. Put yourself in his shoes before you start waffling how people should act
I know it sounded like joe was being an arse but his quote was “it’s like all them TH-cam mugs and how quickly they dropped me”and Tobi was the only one to talk to him after the fight
Randolph completely missed the point. Joe didn’t expect you to go to him instead of JJ. I think he just felt that because you all used to be mates and went on holiday etc. then you would at least wish him well and check if he was ok. Would’ve only taken a second and it’s just the decent thing to do. Totally get as JJs mate you get caught up in the moment. I feel like he feels like the community threw him to the side after fight was over.
Facts
He didn't miss the point, he played dumb.
Correct
Randolph and Simon are obviously good mates of JJ. The sidemen as well would obviously be on jj’s side. I Think Joes issue was way more with Calfreezy and the other ‘hanger ons’ (the TH-cam types who made a few vids back in 2017 and live off that fame today appearing in other vids.)
And they did
Freezy was mega snakey , they made really good content together and looked like such good mates and bonded well - so dunno what happened it’s a shame it decided joe from everyone as joe is the realist youtuber
That was way before the fight. Freezy was closer with jj so that’s who he supported it’s not that deep
Just because they were cool doesnt mean that he supports u over another guy he been with for years
just cus you make many youtube videos together doesn't automatically make you good mates.
@JHolland so true
@@avishekghatak2176 so the sidemen have been making many videos together...so that doesn't automatically make them good mates?
He was specifically referring to the fact that after the fight a lot of people didn’t even check on him and just completely dropped him as a “mate”. He wasn’t just talking about immediately after the fight
I think he was referring to freezy thou cos they were”friends”
@Veersingh Matharu Veersingh Matharu because freezy isnt a friend hes a snake
It's like if your best mate boxed a different friend of yours... You'd celebrate with your best mate but you'd still go up to your friend which is exactly what Tobi did and what Joe was getting at
Do you listen they got push out right after and they all probably text Joe after the fight . Joe is being a bitch
@@ufelzonme exactly lol they’re were never that close with joe
@@rl8259 freezy was
I think Joe meant more the people who were mutual friends with both Joe and JJ, or were "neutral" in the fight, rather than the Sidemen or Randolph who were obviously team JJ. After he lost he was basically excluded from the UK scene. Even if guys like Freezy were more friends with JJ than Joe it's still a piece of shit move to completely cut all ties from Joe as soon as he lost.
Literally
It’s fine to celebrate with JJ but I just think they could have shown some sympathy and at least give Joe the respect he deserved
They did. Simon went to his dressing room but go denied. And the rest were probably celebrating with their friend lol joe wasn’t close to them
They did
why should they show some sympathy? It's not their fault he lost and what respect did he deserve?
Joe is acting like the sidemen and friends have never talked to him since the fight happened and I can guarantee you that they have all talked and consoled joe since then
@@Alex-qx2um for getting in the ring in front of thousands, and he’s an old mate of theirs
Nah it was more giving him respect at the end of the day tobi showed that
ngl at the time i thought you were all mates, seemed a bit off that you all celebrated in front of his face rather than just partying after, then no one but Tobi speaking to him
Why would they be if joe was constantly disrespecting jj. Obviously they’re going to celebrate with jj they weren’t that close with joe.
@@rl8259 didnt jj make fun of the fact that joe was on anti depressants, that seems pretty disrespectful to me
@@rl8259 They were very close with Joe though, obviously not as close as JJ but they were all on holiday together about 5 months before the fight
@@ivandrago782 they were having a boxing match what’re u expecting for them to kiss... joe considering disrespected jj too and the sidemen. Joes still crying about it years later as well everyone has moved on except him
@@rl8259 You just made Joe's point for him. Joe was "disrespectful" so no one spoke to him after the fight and cut him off
Am I the only one who thinks one comment from Joe’s been blown way out of proportion? I’m seeing this everywhere this week ahah
Yeah he was just a little emotional on the pod, there wasn't that much to the comment
calfreezy used to be tight with Joe Sugg and Joe Weller. Man jumps from popular youtuber to popular youtuber like the giraffe he is
Lowe giraffes, they cute niggas
man shut up when u dont know shit joe is just salty cos he lost and he was talking mad shit before the fight love to see he getting beaten up by jj and getting disrespected lmao
New drinking game: Takes a shot every time randy stutters
😂😂
You’d be drunk within a minute
That’s rude man leave the guy alone he’s trying
Regarding the Joe situation. Obviously in the moment you’re gassed that JJ has won as he is your better mate, but imagine being in joes position. All your supposed mates are jumping around in your face that you lost.
especially Calfreezy, they were such close mates before the fight
They didn’t jump around cuz he lost, they celebrated cuz JJ won
@@Mischief251 true but it would still hurt a lot
Fuck Joe's position lmao
They were there for jj. That's why they were sat in jj's area. If they were there for joe, they wouldv'e sat in the area where joe's family, theo, luke and his other friends sat.
This wasn’t like the fight JJ had with Logan where you had your own camps. The lines were blurred because Joe had friends that also supported JJ and whilst it’s fine to congratulate JJ on his win, you would think that people who were friends with Joe who had done videos with him would also consider how he feels in that moment. The fact that Tobi is the only one who said something to him is poor. I get your saying it’s not fair and you tried to talk to him after but I think Joe knew that the sidemen would all be in JJs corner but people like calfreezy and callux needed to be more aware of themselves. Not to mention how they all dropped him like a hot potato straight after. He mentions that in his podcast but there is little to mention of that on here - why did everyone just drop him after that happened to him?
Randolph Simon were clearly on JJs side. As were all the sidemen. I feel his issue was more on the other ones who were more ‘neutral’ like Clafreezy. Tbf it showed them as clout chasers cos I imagine they would have been on Joe’s side if he won…
Freezy is a bit of a snake anyways, when Ksi got jumped in Vegas he just watched
so is randolph who was filming and did a terrible job at that
@@sundaymiroslav3075 Randolph ran off 🤣
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Randolph should of belly flopped him
A lot of people are saying that everyone cut joe off. But isn't joe the one that cut everyone off ? If you look at any interaction joe's had with the other uk guys (I'l thinking ksi v logan 2 build up), you can see that they're cool with him. Even theo has said that joe distanced himself from the uk scene.
I dont know the guy but from the outside looking in that seems more realistic.
And wasn't joe with them most of the times with each boxing event he was on commentary and interviewing and he was there with the other uk youtubers so what's his problem is he begging for a collab or something?
@@djt6861 he sounds mad salty to me cause he’s done a podcast with jj and he’s 100% spoken to the other guys in between and yet he says this now out of the blue like he’s always had this hatred
Joe is washed up.
Deji feared this.
Ksi routing for gib etc
And he says Deji is scared of Gib.
Yeah he did it with Elliot. He obviously stopped talking to everyone so he could train even Theo and Luke and when the fight ended he came back to reality to realise people didn’t wait around for him to come back. Which tbf can you blame them? If my mate ghosted me for 6 months I’d get on with my life it’s not deep it’s just how things work you can’t just go straight back to how things were
I think Joe was talking mainly about Freezy, they were a lot closer than the other boys. I also believe that if they never had the beef joe would have appeared on something like sidemen tinder or at least done some videos with the sidemen boys. He’s not been on anyone’s channel since the fight. Who really stays in contact with him?
He dropped everyone else though, theo said he ghosted them
I swear elliot crawford makes joe weller always look bad
Fr Idk why he’s made the podcast joe talking about all these guys who are supposed to be his friends but then he still jump on a vid with Elliot who bashed him to the guy he was fighting
@@davidheaven2961 watch the new wafflin before you talk on it
@@davidheaven2961 Because Elliot reached out and wanted to settle the beef, i guess Joe's whole point in the little rant is that no one reached out to him at any point
This situation has nothing to do with Elliot. Leave the damn guy alone, people still going on about that one fucking text he sent as if he is a murdered. You should watch the latest wafflin and understand how 6 years on the guy still gets bullied relentlessly. Joe is a fucking adult and is responsible for the words coming out of his own mouth.
You’re acting as if elliot told Joe weller to start talking shit about the sidemen
He was talking about Freezy I think. But you guys all stormed the ring and bumped him out the way, which was out of line imo
Ever heard of adrenaline?
Never seen a boxing match?
It’s the fact freezy and cal just dropped Joe after and haven’t spoke to him since the fight
Calfreezy vs Joe Weller 👀
Joe was pissed because nobody came to say well done to him after as you should when you were mates with all those lads just months before and he has every right to feel that way, callfreezy said nothing, I'd be so pissed if I was joe
He blocked himself off from everyone due to his mental health problems then in the lead up to the fight even his closest friends like Theo etc he wasn’t talking to 🤷🏽♂️ he expects ppl to do stuff for him when he is that lad that wud have done the same thing m celebrated like that. His ego getting in the way of understanding that unfortunately
@@zainarif1654 he said his trainers told him to block everyone off so I feel bad as it wasnt his fault but also falling out with elliot before the fight he basically went into the fight alreadh going to lose but any youtive could have hit him up before or after the fight saying they were proud of him or some shit
Jumping in the ring like that in fighting is commonly seen as disrespectful that’s why I think he got like that but with no one being fighters I feel like he can’t hold that against people
The point Weller was making is that out of respect, people shouldn't have jumped in the ring in front of his face, which he's absolutely right imo. While most of the guys in the ring were closer with JJ, Joe obviously considered them mates too (especially Freezy), so it was pretty disrespectful.
Also, he probably didn't mention it straight after because I doubt he wants an apology or anything, because what's done is done and it's not a situation of wanting that attention, it's just about principles and feeling disrespected. That's how I interpreted it
Thats ridiculous. They shouldn't celebrate with the person they feel closer to because it hurts Joes feelings. Surely he knew the sidemen were rooting for their own.
Nah. You can still congratulate JJ obviously. But there’s no harm in congratulating Joe aswell for fighting. You guys are sounding pretty childish honestly...
I see people mention how Cal has been friends with JJ way longer and was friends with JJ first but you’re allowed multiple friends, you shouldn’t have to snake one friend because you’re closer with the other or something like that
Tbh they had Elliot on the podcast so they where talking about that time frame 👍
1:22 but they were never friends with JJ, the whole point is that you lot where meant to friends with him.
imo he aimed it towards freezy & lux yunno
Lux and freezy are Wayyyyyyyy closer to JJ especially lux
he wasn't talking about lux at all
Diarmuid Daly no but I think it was more targeted at freezy cause he had a company with him and they were quite close
@@diarmuiddaly6100 yeah he can't get a banging video without riding his sack
Joe was more showing his frustration at how freezy jumped in the ring and celebrated in his face even tho they are close mates. Asswell the sidemen didn’t put him in the charity match when he asked to be in it, and there’s bare people saying he just distanced himself? He did distance himself but he was still excluded a lot after the beef, which ain’t fair considering the beef should had been done and settled🤷🏼♂️
I think what Joe was getting at more is that after the fight everyone seemed to just fuck him off especially people he saw as mates like freezy no hate I love them all but it was very clear that it happened nobody wanted anything to do with Joe after the fight
kinda felt bad for joe though because as soon as he lost he had a swarm of people right next to him cheering for the fact he got knocked out
lets be honest people shouldn't have jumped in the ring like that. Its just disrespectful. Celebrate after the result has been announced and everyone leaves the ring. Have respect for the competition someone should've stopped everyone from getting in in the first place
They're celebrating their best mates win of course they will jump in, what are u on about
He was literally having this conversation while talking to Elliot Crawford, the guy who messaged JJ about joe's personal info and remember it was Elliot who contacted jj not jj contacting him
@@yab2842 i don't care about the elliot jj situation?? There is a reason they all got kicked out they should not have been in there... Everytime a boxing match happens do you see all the fighters friends storm the ring?? No because its out of order. Have respect for both fighters.
@@jamydodger556 it's in the heat of the moment though. It's the first time they were watching their close friend fight, and emotions took over. They never did that in Logan fights etc. I don't think they were trying to be disrespectful
@@martial5227 i agree i don't think they did it on purpose but it is mega disrespectful imo
He for sure was talking people outside sidemen like freezy
Randy’s favorite word - “malicious”
He's probably talking about after the fight. For years Joe Weller got left dry and everyone cut him off
He cut everybody off
@@ufelzonme how do u know that? none of us know what happened behind closed doors
MANS TALKING ABOUT REAL FRIENDS WHILE HAVING ELLIOTT CRAWFORD INFRONT HIM
That exact podcast talked about how miscommunication caused that issue to spiral far further than it would've if there was communication. Your comment is pretty dumb
@@michl1161 nah bro Joe clearly said THE SIDEMEN N MENTIONED TOBI
He is acting like a 12 yr old girl now like take the l respectfully
@@DevSingh-lb3zv I was talking about your point about Elliot. Also he was clearly meaning freezy.....
First time seeing the wall and it looks sick btw
Joe acting as if he was mates with all the lads instead of acquaintances... they live with KSI are best friends and in a group, get over it ffs
He mainly targeted that to cal.
@@KenK003 He didn't, you're assuming he did, he should of named him if he was but he mentioned everyone in the ring except Tobi.
@@Gsdizzle19 Nah, aimed at all the guys yeah I agree but very very aimed at Freezy. Freezy and Joe were like best mates before all this happened.
@@JoshiVlogsOfficial I think someone should take a look through cals youtube channel and see 98% of his vids have been with the sidemen, troops or tower lads. The other 2% include other uk youtubers like Weller. He was never "best mates" with him and was always going to be on JJ's team and that's why he was in his family & friends section at the fight.
@@Gsdizzle19 they had a clothing brand together
would calfreezy do the same thing to Joe as he did to jj if Joe won
He was deffo aiming that at Calfreezy but smh they should’ve blessed it by now
You’re missing the point. He was using it as an example to talk about how he was ‘dropped’ from the uk TH-cam scene.
A fight is a fight you pick a side and you stick to your side its fighting for example jake v askren people like masvidal wont praise askren if he beats Paul he will bitch about it so its fighting you pick a side and you are loyal to your fighter
Also - when was the last time someone collabed with him after that?
Look tbh moral compass of the sidemen is Tobi he’s the only one that did the right thing n went n said good fight. I get you there for Ksi but own up to a mistake that’s all n move on. Tobi doing that exposes how bad, especially freezy, that was. A simple pat on the shoulder or good fight to someone you call a friend absolutely in order.
I think what joe said was completely justified
guys you all can be mates and root for that one guy thats been there for you.
But that does not mean that you can't go up to the opponent and pat him on his back etc etc.
Tobi as we all now is in the same place as you all are with JJ and yet he was the only one pattin Joe on his back...
Randolph what you said in the first minute of this clip is complete bullshit.
I think joe was aiming it more towards calfreezy. They seemed like good friends. I doubt he took offence to the sidemen jumping in.
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS KEEP GOING
Makes sense that Joe is targetting Freezy. Clearly Joe felt his relationship with Freezy was better than what Freezy saw it as. Or maybe thats the type of person Freezy is. I'm assuming Joe didn't bring it up and it was just something he thought of in the flow of the conversation. Otherwise, it just feels a bit childish again I don't know the context.
Keep up the good podcasts guys
Still talking about it, it was 3 years ago
It’s not about which fighter they’re better friends with. It’s disrespectful to jump in the ring, barge Joe aside and celebrate in front of him. It’s made even worse by the fact that most of them were friends with Joe.
i think you need to understand that joe is gonna feel hurt as he considered you all mates still. it seems like nobody even text or called him up afterwards, hes been very vocal about his mental health. but i dont think it was malicious i think you should talk to eachother
I get that they claim they know him longer or better but half the ppl in that ring werent even sidemen and only took ksi’s side cus he has more subs and is a celebrity
I definitely think best way to sort it out is a sidemen wafflin collab like
Do they not understand it’s not the norm for a ring invasion like that after a fight
It’s a youtube fight lol there are no norms
it's a youtube fight. Yes, it is the norm.
Nahh you all are forgetting joe and cal weren't that close anymore. Joe was always filming videos with elliott, nobody liked elliot AND joe was dissing JJ a lot so yeah cal sided with who he was closer at the time
i think also the reason joe considers that moment the worse in his life in on how disappointing he is in himself from the performance he gave. he didn't throw any punches and by the time he did it was too late and the hype train went from him to jj. and the youtube boxing he started completely left him behind
No one
Randolph; *Malicious intent*
why is that Donny talking bout shit from the 2010s lol
Exactly lol Logan has moved on from his loss but joe is still stuck
lit ep.
You guys should make the effort to do a small collab with him and theo
Fair play to Tobi though man has a heart of gold.
i dont think he was angry for the fact that no one came up to him afterwards except for tobi.
Tobi is a legend
It did look like you guys kinda cut him off
No shit it’s a boxing match against their friend they’re not going to be besties with joe. They were never that close
Bruh when I rewatched the fight celebration the first one I saw was cal
Joe wasn’t really bothered about that ... he’s pissed that as soon after the fight every one dropped him on the TH-cam scene no one makes vids with him or speaks to him or anything
Nah if two of my mates were fighting I would have kept it respectful even if I preferred one of them calfreezy didnt do that at all
Nah that’s peak that they jumped in the ring like that, there’s no other way about it
I get both points but i do think more people other than tobi should’ve gone up to him and just said something
They all got kicked out the ring remember and they would’ve wanted to celebrate with jj before talking to joe
why
i honestly want them to talk about what happened in US when JJ got RAN UP ON and cal and randolf did absolutely NOTHING about it! (Since were talking about what happened after stuff) Just curious!
Ngl you guys were out of order yeah you can support your guy but if you were really friends with both you would see if he was okay after, your lack of empathy in that moment made one of the worst moments in his life like a double blow.
Shut up
You've never watched a boxing match have you , neek
@@ioan4931 Whats that gotta do with boxing ya virgin?
Joe was talking about Calfreezy not the sidemen. I think why ppl believe that Joe is talking about the sidemen is bc he brought up Tobi who is a sidemen member but he is only bringing up tobi bc he was the only one that went up to him. I get why he is mad bc he was bareeeeee close with cal back then and after seeing cal jumping in like that a celebrating. Ik cal is friends with JJ too but i feel like Joe and Cal were closer back then
i think joe is also talking about how people stopped collabing with him
Doesn’t matter whos ‘more mates’ if you’re mates with someone you’re mates with someone?
For everyone commenting it was targeted towards cal they literally address it in the video saying cal knew jj before joe lol
Doesn’t matter who you’ve known for longer it’s who you were closer with
Locker room mate
Joe should come on What’s Good
Tobi wasn't the only one deji went to him as well
I would kinda feel the same ways as joe, cos if my so called friends turns against me in this case cal then I would feel left alone. Cos calfrezy seems like he kinda backstabbed joe after jj won and joe felts left alone from the uk scene
Decent podcast guys. Feel bad for Joe, He just flopped on the night and wanted to support from you lot.
He shouldn’t be expecting that from his opponent’s friends
People really hate freezy here
People may hate me for saying this but I think Callux and cal freeze definitely biggest clout chasers in whole TH-cam uk scene.
Look how callux jumped on the diss track with Ethan to diss Jj when jj left uk when there was no beef between callux and jj . Jj and callux were friends before Ethan scene was there.
And look how calfreezy left joe when he lost the fight and sided with Jj.just for clout. Even calfreezy was so close with joe weller before the fight.
It would have been a whole different story if joe would have won. Just saying
Edit: this is only my opinion.
He's talking about after the fight how everyone cut him off just because Joe and JJ had issues. But you lot didn't need to jump on the bandwagon as if JJ had a leash on you
They’re jjs friend they’re going to back him...
Yh man cal and joe used to be best buds
Why are they still going on about this it was ages ago
The least you could have done is gone over to him but tobi was the only one who did. That’s what he has an issue with
Bare excuses. You guys were friends before the fight and then completely didn't check on him after the fight.
Friends is a bit of the stretch lol they weren’t close with joe
People normally dont jump in the ring lol thats already a disrespect
Nah i think Joe just means no one came or said anything to him there or after I'm pretty sure he said no one even msgd him a while after