'Blue-Eyed Devil' | Accomplice to Murder with Vinnie Politan
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- ACCOMPLICE TO MURDER w/ Vinnie Politan E7 'FL v. Leppert' | Toby Lowry was 22 when he says his 15-year-old girlfriend Morgan Leppert manipulated him into murdering an elderly disabled man so they could run away together. But was the so-called ‘blue-eyed devil’ really the mastermind behind this brutal crime?
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Is there a update on Morgan’s case
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She deserves everything she got...The age doesn't matter when you murder an innocent victim
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Her family is delusional and now I understand why she is the way she is. She was surrounded by enablers
Society enabled her, not just her family.
She was a child
@@glennjones6574 She beat a disabled man with a pipe about his head face and neck...and stabbed him multiple times in the torso. In addition to talking to her boyfriend to finish him off and kill them because she wanted to leave the state in the dude's truck... She knew WTF she was doing. You can take that 'child' crap and shove it. The empathy in this case is not reserved for her... At 13 you know right from wrong.
@@gags730 Instead of showing any sympathy towards the murder victim, the mother excuses her daughter for "only" hitting him with the pipe in the face and stabbing him. That is not killing, according to her because the boyfriend finished him off. So technically it's not killing. Putting a family member on as a character witness is usually a bad idea because the mother takes no accountability for her "angel's" behavior. Their child always loves animals and is a wonderful girl, who just happened to hang out with the wrong crowd.
Why let a total stranger move into your home w your 14 yr old daughter? Irresponsible.
Dude does not look 16 or 17 years old.. WTH is wrong with these parents
And even if he was,the mammy allowed him to move in with her daughter!
Was a father even in the picture?
Lol
Careless
Letting her date at 14! Let's start there.... That's Jr High.
Mom letting some guy she barley knows live in the home she shares with her young daughter and not have the foresight to see where that was headed is beyond stupid.
That’s the first thing I said. I will never understand parents allowing boys to move in or their daughters to move out and in with boys. If my daughter tried moving in with a boy I would hunt her tail down with a belt. This mother is delusional to sit and keep defending this girl after knowing all of the facts and evidence. They both deserve life with no parole. If she can act like a big shot during an interrogation laughing, etc then she definitely proved to everyone that she has no remorse.
These days, we have to do background checks. It's worth the monthly payment.
Yeah, but sometimes if the kid is just BAD, like this one & Erin Caffey, you just can’t win, although I agree, mom made a bunch of dumbass decisions, & is still whining & making excuses! Because Mom & Dad wouldn’t let her date, Erin Caffey, w much the same attitude, killed her mother & brother, & made an excellent attempt on Dad! I guess you just be grateful most kids aren’t this screwed up! 🤷🏻♀️
Yes, it's the Mom's fault, not the pedophile's fault.
More misogyny.
@@pillettadoinswartsh4974 I'm sure if you have kids, you love them very much and are very protective of them, even if it meant putting your life in jeopardy to save them. Of course it's the PEDO's fault but, the mother opened the door and let him in. If you put your daughter in a position where she's alone with some guy, you have to at least be aware where that could possibly lead.
Most normal children, and even a lot of adults would feel uncomfortable seeing blood, and would not be able to stab another human being, especially if they were not provoked. These 2 psychos did the gruesome murder and were so unfazed afterwards. They are both very dangerous.
They watch too much violence on TV or perhaps video games. She's still a kid as far as I'm concerned
@@Kathryn-zo5hl I do not agree that violence on tv or video games have any impact on anyone being able to commit a crime like this. I sadly, binge watch crime shows and documentaries and watch Dexter on repeat and play GTA, TLOU, and other gruesome or violent games, been doing all this for the last 21 years of my life.. and it bothers me none. But if I see a broken bone or too much bleeding in person, a person or animal in pain or discomfort, or witnessing an elderly person who is passing… it messes me up and I’m emotional or I feel like passing out.. etc.
TV and video games cannot be responsible for any human ( especially child ) being THIS desensitized to torturing a disabled man who was trying to help.
It’s either within a person to kill or it isn’t.
(( imo )) there’s evil .. there’s good. These two were evil and it fed one another’s depravity.
You either kill because you enjoy it or because it’s self defense.
She may have been the age of a child but she is a predator and a psychopath just like her bf. They are both repulsive and should never be allowed in society. You can't rehab this level of violence.
@@Kathryn-zo5hlI’m 4 yrs younger than her & I’ve played violent games & never could imagine hitting someone unprovoked, let alone a elderly disabled man. Outside influence wasn’t a factor for her, she’s inherently deranged.
Her mom will sue you, shes a little cutie pie just 15 years old whose brain hasnt "formed" and needs parental care which her mom/grandma is now willing to provide after killing a defenseless man. She's a baby according to her mommy 👩
Having a 14 year old and her boyfriend?? Live in your house!!! Right what the hell is wrong with that mother
Smh
She was failed by every adult in her life. including her pedo bf. Why so many are dismissing that he wasn't charged and so angry at her is unsettling and immature.
Absolutely agree. No. Not dating at 14. No boy should ever live at your house He can go find a place to live . Sad. For the victim. No mercy for the murders
He didn’t look that “young” either
If stupidity was a crime then her Mom is definitely guilty of it. And yes I do believe her daughter and her boyfriend are both guilty. Hearing the daughter while serving her sentence still whining that she was young and still blaming her ex boyfriend and not taking any responsibility for murdering an elderly man is beyond disgusting.
Yep. Mother of the year, ain’t she.
try posting another comment but instead of ending with ''beyond disgusting'' try writing ''true''
Ending with beyond disgusting is just fine. 👍
A 13 year old with a BOYFRIEND. 🤦♀️
@@continuouslyevolving7955 right…?
Going into the elderly man’s house and asking to use the phone and then calling her destroyed phone proves it for me. If she was really scared or anything she would of used that phone to call her mom or the police. This girl is evil. Also her attorney saying if she’s not old enough to consent to sex then she can’t consent to this crime is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. I don’t know how attorneys defend people who are obviously guilty then after all these years he’s still sticking up for her. Pathetic.
Agree! Her attorney is pathetic.
The defense attorneys are PAID TO DEFEND YOU . There job is to plant a doubt in your mind. If you have reasonable doubts you CAN NOT CONVICT the defendant .
The mom is beyond SIMPLE MINDED!😮
She’s clearly a psychpath
Mr. Stewart wasn't just elderly. He was disabled - born without hands - defenseless.
"I was young and dumb and manipulated by a grown man" - after all these years she still does not take one once of responsibility - so in all these years she has still not matured it's just mind-blowing to me may the victim rest in peace 🕊 🕊...
She's been brainwashed with the thought that she was manipulated by an older man. She take youth as an excuse to commit a crime, but I do think she is sorry although it is worrying she hasn't taken responsibility. All she regrets is having chosen an older manipulative guy.
@@marivipalomino6975She's not sorry. All she was talking about was how sorry she felt about herself and how she was the victim. She's a psychopath imo.
@@Mira20153obviously you don't know what a psychopath is.
@@awkwardautistic Yes, I do.
She was surrounded by a family and lawyer telling her she was a victim. It would be hard to face that those people are just enablers in denial and you’re just a cold blooded killer.
It's impossible to know if a kid can be rehabilitated. Ed Kemper killed his grandparents when he was 15. He was eventually paroled and went on to kill a bunch of women. It doesn't matter who called the shots since they both stabbed this man. She said she didn't want to kill him, but she was ok with torturing him? Do i want her living next door to me in 20 years... no.
The tough parole board will interview her at a later age to see if she is worthy of release! I highly doubt she will be for 30 years! She wasn’t influenced by the guy but made her own evil acts occur!!! Bad parenting abound here to create such a monster kid!
I say dont fuq around and find out
@@Mataylor17i disagree because in my country we've seen cases of killer kids including 2 16-17 year olds who brutally murdered an elderly man and got out after 4 years and has not reoffended since. That murder happened in 2001 so it has definetly been a while... also, what about the 6 year old who shot his teacher, what should happen to him?! Should we send him to prison too?!
@@Unbreakable245death penalty
@@Unbreakable245yes, absolutely. You should do your homework on that 6 year old.. it wasn’t just a random shooting.
And no, the deeper that ugly seed is embedded in a mind.. it’s extremely unlikely to ever get it rehabilitate into something beautiful.
When you’re 12 years old you know right from wrong. Killing a handicapped man. There’s somebody very wrong in her head. Everybody feels sorry for her. What about the victim?
@@TheGhostOfMichaelJacksonsomeone with an attached brain stem and some common sense can make that determination
@@TheGhostOfMichaelJackson No degree necessary
@@TheGhostOfMichaelJackson😂
@@TheGhostOfMichaelJacksonclearly from the post there is no degree going on
I don't feel sorry from her. She should rot in prison.
This young lady is exactly where she needs to be. The fact that she STILL claims it was all him baffles me. The fact that her mother didn't seem the least bit dazes by her daughter's words under interrogation also baffle me. There is no way I would want her sleeping in my home. Does it really matter whose idea the murder was? They both participated in it. To listen to these women recall how sweet and wonderful she was makes me want to vomit. I bet the victim would have a different view of her.
I don't believe these relatives. I don't believe she was such a sweet girl.
But, but....she *only* hit him in the face with the pipe "two or three times."
Where's your compassion for this poor, young girl?
(sarcasm--just in case there's any doubt)
All she did was make excuses for herself and then she said she hopes her family will forgive her. Not one word about the man she killed, no remorse for him or his family. Completely self absorbed.
Did she even say sorry??? 😢 I couldn't imagine!!! ❤❤❤ To the victim family
The fact that her mom is really bother by the jury's opinion of her daughter, which is on point 👉 and not bother by her demonic daughter vile attitude and conduct baffles me.
Her tears have probably allowed her to get away with being awful her entire life. Is it any wonder she's shocked that it isn't working for her demon spawn?
She's a narcissist and that is her "golden child". Narcs are all about appearances.
@@whoopsydaisy6389 I bet her siblings got blamed for a lot of her behaviour and her pointing her little finger at them for her actions.
Golden children are extensions of the narcissist. They will defend them forever.
@@whoopsydaisy6389This has nothing to do with your comment. I like your screen name. I just watched the movie “Notting Hill” and Hugh Grant says that in the movie. I used to say whoopsy daisy as a kid.
The fact that the hitchhiker sais she smacked the boyfriend several times in his presence, make me doubt how manipulated she was. So sorry for the victim, being disabled but fighting for a dignified life, and then these two hoodlums discover him.
How can some people be so mean and cruel to another person?? I will never understand, just evil people I guess
@@slim7435Other people mean nothing to them. They see them as objects to be used and manipulated for their own gain. It’s hard to wrap your head around but I had to in order to recover from family members who were like that. They are to be avoided at all costs!
It's pretty obvious that the boyfriend is a little not all there...this little girl jumped on that fact and actually manipulated him .
@@slim7435
You aren’t alone with that thought.
This was just pure malicious & pure evil. Both of them should be in death row.
Their behaviour showed, they would murder again,
just to steal for money, everyone in their way, could be threatened,
especially the disabled.
I’m sure that guy would
( sorry forgot his name RiP)
probably would have given these evil two his truck,& money, just to live.
@@karenaltschwager5929
Oh yes & she knew what she was doing.
This could have all been prevented if the mother had alerted the police once she learned of Toby's true age and status. Certainly he would have been found guilty of violating his probation and sent to jail.
THIS! This is what really grinds my gears. I get why the daughter is how she is. This poor excuse of a mom didn’t protect her child by kicking the guy out. This caused her daughter to run right to him - wtf lady!
Well, when she ran away, if I'm not mistaken, she did contact the police and tried to have an amber alert put out. However, I agree she is just as guilty as the boyfriend.
WHY WAS HE ALLOWED TO MOVE IN IN THE FIRST PLACE?!?!?!? DUH!!!!
That defense attorney should host a podcast, I could listen to him all day. What a voice!
I noticed his voice right away. I thought he's make a good DJ or podcast host too.
Both are monstrous attacking a defenseless man, the violence of both their acts cannot be forgiven. Lovely caring lawyer, a good man. Morgan's family is to blame for not giving her a proper education.
You commit adult crimes, you serve adult time. My thoughts and prayers are with the elderly disabled man’s family and loved ones. His life was taken far too soon in such a heinous and abhorrent manner. May he rest in peace. 💗
No wonder amerikkka is so fkd
She didn't commit murder... he did. She was a kid and not a very bright one...he was a grown man and convicted felon. It's pretty obvious who is responsible.
If you are old enough to do the crime, you are old enough to do the time!!
@@awkwardautisticI couldn’t have said it more succinctly! 💁🏼♀️ Thank you! Does no one consider the “fact,” that a human beings brain is FAR from fully developed, until they are much older than FIFTEEN! 🤷🏼♀️ Doesn’t that matter to anyone! Her lawyer is beyond correct, when he attempts to advise the court, that @ 15 years old, she is PHYSICALLY “incapable,” 💁🏼♀️ of thinking a situation such as the unfortunate one she found herself in, out! OMG! 🤯 It’s not possible! Yes I feel for the dead guy! But how many convicted people does it take, for the state to be satiated! Seriously America, don’t you think that you should be working on rehabilitating a 15 year old, not making a bad situation worse for God sake! And how btw, do you “rehabilitate “ a child, whose brain hasn’t even fully developed yet, therefore can not possibly comprehend the seriousness of her actions? I know, 💁🏼♀️ I digressed, 🤷🏼♀️ I’m sorry, but this is just so stupid! 🤯 Anyway! Great point you! 👍🏼👍🏼…✌🏼🇨🇦
@@jeanarey5328Well, that certainly is a cute, catchy comment, if not totally asinine! 🙄
Gaining entrance to this man's home, hitting him in the face with pipes, 'poking' him with a knife and providing a plastic bag to suffocate him make her just as guilty. Well deserved sentence.
No way in hell as a mother, would I let a 21 year old sleep across from my daughter let alone bring him in my home!!! WTH is wrong with people?
Quit blaming it all on Toby. She is NOT a good girl! Her family is defending a THUG. "Good" teen girls don't break into homes for any reason and they certainly do not beat someone with a pipe. I'm glad she was found guilty. I hope she never gets out. Blaming it all on "getting caught up with an older man." She hasn't taken responsibility. Her family is in denial. As well as her defense attorney. I wonder how he'd feel about a teen girl who'd break into his elderly father's home and beat him with an iron pipe? Yep, a real sweet girl, keep defending her, Fool.
No grown ass man has any business having sex with a 14 or 15 year old girl.
And where is her family’s empathy for the dead man, she helped kill? None. That girl participated in his killing and was not sorry. She is now because she doesn’t like prison. She deserves to be in prison for the rest of her life just as the man she contributed to killing no longer has his life.
Her mother should have been charged for allowing her 14 year old daughter to sleep with a grown man, even if she thought he was 16 or 17 years old, absolutely disgusting. They charge males every day of their lives for sleeping with under age females & this is how it happens, the mothers allowing it.
Agreed! I wouldn’t have cared if she got the death penalty to be honest.
Right , too bad this monster didn't get death.
Seriously?? She was poking with a knife an older, disabled, innocent man whose brains were coming out of his nose, and she deserves mercy?? What kind of monster is that?? Even if she didn't manipulate this murder, she deserves to be locked up for good.
And her lawyer almost had a stroke trying to defend her. You could see the veins popping out of his head during the verdict. He was so intent on winning, it came across as being overly emotional and inappropriate. Like she represented the ideal young girl and he was going to save her. When others saw a self-absorbed, immature little monster.
@@junemarshall-kingsley566 Our judicial system is DISGUSTING. Just listen to the Tool Box Murderers. .. Couldn't sleep. They lived till 79 in prison... MTFs... And one was sueing the state for a broken cookie for lunch...
Lawyer is about winning his case , not about justice at all ! This lawyer , killer & her mom all make me sick. May her dumb mom see the light ,she raised a demon. All 3 of them will end up rotting in hell.
I am floored by how many people are willing to make excuses for this girl. She is an accessory to murder in the VERY least. Wow.
Exactly accessory to murder, not 1st degree murder. The punishment was too harsh.
Enablers like this woman to murder.
Let live with you , last time you sleep well and your neighbors.
@@Peachcobler22 Unless, of course, it's one of your loved ones that was murdered by these 2 worthless hunks of flesh!_
It's your type of thinking that puts these kiIIers back on the streets and are able to continue with their vile crimes! *If she puts no value on human life at that young age...she will never possess it.* She will continue to care only about herself, and she will lie, manipulate and do whatever in her power to get out...and _I don't doubt she'll eventually be released_ by whatever fanciful tale she, her lawyer or her mother can spin to the parole council to let her walk free once more. Maybe you should invite her to stay with you while she gets back on her feet : )
Lets all pray she never gets paroled out because clearly by that last statement she still clearly cannot take responsibility for her own actions. We so not need people like her on the streets. Theres plenty out here we already have to worry about. She is right where she belongs.
👁️👁️. I AGREE WITH YOU‼️ SHE IS AS GUILTY AS HE IS… KEEP HER LOCKRD UP‼️
I agree, Unfortunately, she will learn what to say, how to say it and how to look when she says it... the correct words that will resonate with the parole board.
I have no doubt she will be paroled just by reading the comment section. There are just too many people willing to chalk it up to her age and naivety! IMO _If she puts no value on human life at that young age...she will never possess it._ She will continue to care only about herself!
Her family say she was always a ‘happy child’ and ‘noone worried about her’ - a happy, well-adjusted young person doesn’t torture and kill another human being without a thought or regret. That is not being ‘young and stupid’ as she says. Where is her family’s empathy for the man she contributed to killing? She deserves to be in prison for the rest of her life. I hope she is not paroled.
They do if they are groomed by a pedophile on parole. At 14 the frontal lobe of the brain isn't developed yet. That's why teens do stupid things. It's literally what controls decion making.
Yeah. Well the older women in her family seem to me to be a few Karen's who would refuse to admit if she ever did anything wrong. IDK. 🤷♀️
Many of us were wild teens but we would never even think of killing someone. This girl was troubled from the start.
She didn't torture and kill another human, she did the minimum she thought would work for the man that was badgering her to participate. Did you even pay attention to her taped confession or his? Of course he is going to blame he buy he is the one with the criminal history of breaking and entering.
We have different laws for minors gor a reason. They should be adhered to.
That's ridiculous.. she's obviously remorseful and she was a kid. He was a grown man and convicted felon that took a young girl away from home and went and killed a man while she was with him. He's responsible.
The statement 'nothing Morgan did resulted in the victims death' made my jaw drop. Morgan actually admitted to hitting the victim with a pipe and 'slighty' stabbing the victim but the victim was killed during another attack so Morgan should be given a free pass ... really? thats the defence? I can understand Morgan s mum believing anything but for an attorney to say that sickens me ...
IMO both are guilty and should be punished accordingly ...
She deserves to stay in prison for the rest of her life. It’s interesting her family has no empathy for the man she attacked and contributed to his death…..
It doesn’t matter what the defense says. As an accomplice or even mastermind you are equally guilty.
No one said a full pass, just not 1st degree murder. 2nd degree is more appropriate.
The guy was dead... and he may have made her hit him too so she wouldn't go and tell the police.
I agree with you. I wasn't sure what to believe till I saw the hitchhikers assessment of their relationship and then more of her interview. They both did it and need to stay in prison.
She knew killing that man was wrong. She didn't need to be protected, she needed to go to orison. Every time her lawer calls her a child, and portrays her as innocent and manipulated, makes me sick.
Even as an adult, she shows no remorse for what she did. "Just young and dumb" like that's a pass to killing a man.
Even an eight-year-old already knows right from wrong or good and bad, she is 15 years old and she knows very well that what they are doing is bad and wrong while she and her boyfriend are killing the invalid man. She should be in jail for many years.
She's a murderer and her mom did a terrible job raising her.
Brat .
Whatever your kids will do, it'll all be your responsibility? 🤔
@@verabolton if they are minors… yes.
@@elbacar4838 Legally, maybe. But not morally. If you had more than one child, you would know some of them are, in certain situations, uncontrollable. This mum kicked the criminal out of her house as soon as she found out who he was. But she cannot chain her daughter inside the house, can she?
Yep
Why are the comments not in an uproar about a 14 year old and a 21 year old being together?
I am so upset by the absurdity and apathy in the comments. It's like they're taking out their rage on a 14-year-old girl whose brain isn't fully developed yet with a pedo who was forgiven and his crime forgotten. It has to be immaturity.
“For them to think what they thought of her, it blows your mind.” Um ma’am…she took part in a grizzly killing, if it were your loved one that was beaten and suffocated to death you would feel the same about her. That mama of hers is something else.
They were not "thinking" of her: They were looking at what she did, how she acted, and the forensics. That mama can't face the fact that she spawned a heartless demon.
WELL I REKON I STAND CORRECTED FOLKS! Even though I quoted the lady directly and correctly they were not “tHiNkInG” of her. I am so incredibly sorry to all y’all out there who may have read my initial comment and were affected somehow.
Definitely a death penalty case; if she can do that at aged 15, imagine what a dangerous demented adult she will be and paying for her to live for the next (potentially) 60 years is ludicrous. Imagine what the money could be spent on
James is the Priority still should be everyday....
Sounds to me that she is a willing accomplice. I only poked him & I only hit him in the face 2 or 3 times. Even laughed at one point. Then tears in court. I think she's a deadly young woman. RIP JAMES 🙏🕊✌🌻🌻
I wish they would have reported her mental I.Q. status. She seems to me to be challenged mentally.
@@janetarmstrong7010 Mentally challenged people don’t murder people. Mentally ill might but she isn’t mentally ill. She just does whatever she wants in order to get whatever she wants. Spoiled brat.
She still blames him, and acts like the victim. What stood out to me is how well she lied at first and he automatically told the truth. They say girls mature faster than boys, in this case that was for sure. KEEP THAT VILE WOMAN IN PRISON.
She has no empathy for anyone but herself.
Guys don’t believe she was young and following behind him just because she thought she was in love
It doesn’t matter if girls mature faster than boys. A grown ass man having sex with a minor is unacceptable
@@kahledblackman318Both things are true.
Wrong. He killed the victim, not her. And undeniable fact is that she was fourteen and he was a grown ass felon m..f..er. Outrageous!!!
What revolting human beings. What would be wrong with the death penalty?? They took a life of someone who couldn’t defend themselves. And her family are defending her?? Disgusting!!!
Rest in Peace Mr. Stewart. These animals should never be released. To kill an innocent disabled man makes you the lowest of lowes and should never have the chance to be released. They should be tortured for the rest of their lives.
What is this barely a teenager is allowed to have boyfriends, seriously. Again no parental guidance nor control.
No Dad
A growing epidemic in the USA
Barely a teenager??? She was about to turn 15. Not that she should have been allowed to date a 22 yr old man, shocker, but 15 yr old high school girls do have boyfriends.🙄
Criminals are getting younger and younger nowadays. Kids can be physchos and kill too. Don't pity them.
She didn't need to be a genius to know that murder is wrong. She lived her Bonnie and Clyde fantasy and frankly she deserved every last minute behind bars and then some.
In my country, a 12 year old girl plotted with her 14 year old boyfriend the killing of her mother and stepfather. They killed her mother, the stepfather escaped to the streets and asked for help. At first she said the stepfather abused her and he was the one who killed her mother. The police wanted to arrested him at the hospital, because they manage to stabbed him few times. Thank god the police investigate it right and learned it was all the two teenagers. None of them will go to real prison. They will be in a house for delinquent juveniles until age of 18, then their crimes will be sponged. It is unbelievable, but this is the law. A doctor said the girl had clear signs of psychopathy.
Their brains don’t finish developing til age 25. Literally. Are you going to hold someone in a wheelchair responsible for cleaning the stairs, or are you going to acknowledge the person’s limitations?
@@sarahissersohn5495That’s not actually true. That’s a myth. Also, even if it was true that your brain isn’t “finished” yet, that doesn’t imply that people under 25 are magically unaware that brutally murdering someone isn’t right and has consequences. What you said was so ignorant.
@@sarahissersohn5495she knows the difference between right and wrong, that murder is wrong, by the age of 14. She wasn’t sorry when she participated. She’s sorry for herself now - she deserves to be behind bars for the rest of her life.
This case is so sad. Seeing Mr. Stewart with his kitty in that picture was heartbreaking. He looked like he lived a great life!
Just listening to her first couple minutes of her interrogation shows me that this is the type of girl that has no qualms about murdering a handicapped man
Ummm "22" & "15" yea na never mind who the manipulator, more like who the predator!!!
Agree with you. Also her mental age was not 15. More like 12.
@@fulanichild3138 at 12 you know murder is wrong. They are both where they deserve to be and a disabled man is dead
Both are predators.
He deserves to stay in prison the rest his life she should stay too
This happens when mothers allow kids to rule the roost and do as they please. The mother even allowed a fellon to live in their house knowing there is a reason why his family turned him out.
This girl was raised immature and self entitled. She is clearly complicit. Police won't set a kid up on purpose. She needs this lesson to grow up.
Police won’t WHAT???? Really?!?! Central Park 5, just off the top of my head, first thing just woke up, without even turning to Google. There are thousands of other examples. It’s the literal reason there is a LAW that if you’re under 18, you’re supposed to have a parent/guardian present, if the cops are gonna interview you. And cops get paid to break the law all the time. They get paid to lie, manipulate, and trick. It is literally their job. If you were raised to think the police are your friend, (1) I can correctly guess whether you’re white or not, and (2) your parents didn’t do you any favors, bc they’re only your friends until they aren’t.
I agree with you 100% . I believe this is the way a lot of teenagers are dragged up these days.
This is what happens when there is only one parent in the household.
@@tamaracalderon6080 so only growing up with my mother means I’m going to be a murderer? 🤔 I haven’t murdered anybody nor have I ever been in trouble with the law.
Factxxxxxx
It’s despicable that her pathetic defender calls the prosecution correctly charging her with 1st degree murder as vengeance. At 14 she was capable of such a heinous crime on a very vulnerable victim that did nothing to hurt her. I can only imagine how this soulless depraved monster will act towards someone that actually stands in her way. She should be locked up for life with no chance of parole
She should get released from prison on the same day her victim is released from his grave. It never fails to amaze me when they plead for mercy for their lives after they've taken someone else's.
Best episode so far. Now, I don't see her sentence of life imprisonment being unfair or questionable whatsoever. She *_together_* with the other guy took the life of a completely innocent man in a premeditated and calculating fashion.
I agree with you 100% because I feel this though she was old enough to know right from wrong
Exactly!
You may feel differently if it were your teenage daughter!!
If anything, she should have gone into a remand centre for child offenders and then transferred into adult confines with the opportunity for parole down the line.
The objective is to help these people through incarceration develop into better people, with less offending tendencies. Placing her in an adult prison with the worst of female offenders, exploitation and sex abuse is not something any govt or jurisdiction should be able to enforce upon a child for aggravated manslaughter. Face it !! The male killed the Victim. He took his last breath away from him, he inflicted the grievous knife wounds and stomped on the man to incapacitate him.
Not once was she psychologically assessed throughout the trial process, to determine her mental status.
@@donna-leeking2211wrong, if it were my child who killed someone in cold blood, they could rot in prison as I taught them right from wrong & knew better. Any mother who would allow a 16 or 17 year old move in & shack up with their child, a young girl who was 14, has no business being called a mother, period. The mother allowed this psycho into her and her daughters life.
She committed a MURDER …
I think this could semi be looked at as negligence on the mother’s part in letting a stranger in her home while she has a daughter who is home schooled (meaning she’s always at home= easy access)
The mother let her date unsupervised by age 13 in middle school. Social services should have asked the DA for charges pressed for allowing an unknown man to live unsupervised in her home with full access to her daughter that was allegedly being homeschooled.
Taking somebody into your home that you know nothing about is asking for trouble. Protect your children from strangers!!!
Jury got it right, don't do the crime because you will do the time, period. She messed up her own life, and that brutal beating is psychotic behavior and certainly she is capable of more. Still blaming the man, so she is still clueless as to her own responsibility.
Her mother keeps repeating that when she visits I’ll bet. Soothing her by saying it.
She was coddled it seems. It’s the new way to bring up children so the kids don’t get upset.
When she comes up for parole hope there is someone to speak up for the victim
The Mom should probably be glad that it wasn't her they took out! Could easily have been! Heart goes out to elderly victim & his family!
Thanks vennie! I really like how u cover cases. U don't cut people off mid sentence and it runs smoothly!
Isn’t interesting how she states that she was “young and manipulated by an older man” and then says “I hope they can find it in their hearts to forgive me” twice (talking about the victim’s family, I assume). However, she conveniently skips over the part where she says I’M SORRY! How about you try saying you’re sorry, BEFORE you “hope they can forgive you”!!
Totally lacking sincerity! 😤
It’s an edited video, how do we know if she said she was sorry or not?
Saying sorry often is offensive to the injured party. In saying she hopes they can forgive her, she is accepting responsibility for her part as well as apologizing without a potentially hurtful "I'm sorry" 🙄 Society places way too much importance on those specific words, they are after all just words.
She manipulated that young man like she still does with her family. In her police interviews she smiles while talking about how he would do anything to be with her. SHe knew that and she used him and now she puts on a baby voice still trying to manipulate her way out of jail. Her family and lawyer are narcissists who don't want to look bad.
@@madsdee7803she was a child. The adults in the situation say No to having sex with children. The adults in the situation say No to murdering with children. Does that mean she doesn't get legal consequences? If nothing else we need her removed to protect society but she also needs rehabilitative and counseling services...regardless if she gets life without parole. We don't throw children away in this society. We are better adults than that.
She deserves life in prison.
She does. She should never be out since she'll kill again or con someone else into doing it for her to get money. Sociopaths don't change.
The interview with a 15 year old without an adult or a lawyer in the room as suspect is insane. Im not from the US and this is blowing my mind. Also giving a deal to the grown man and not the child is insane. Wtf
The family didn’t do their homework on the bf. Even if he was 16-17, allowing him to stay with her in the family home was extremely negligent.
Her mother is sitting there and making excuse after excuse after excuse for her daughter 🤢🤮🤮
She was old enough to hit a DISABLED man several times with a pipe and also tried to stab him... I'd say she is old enough to get punished!
She deserves every second of her sentence!
The mother is lucky the kid didn’t turn on her for kicking her boyfriend out of the house.
The whole point of homeschooling is to give a better education and to keep your child safe. Why would you allow her to be out of your sight? Meet someone, than allow him in your house? There are homeschool groups that you can join and observe her interactions with other children. They have group trips to museums, zoo, parks. Her life would be on another path. At 14yrs old, i do blame the parents as much as the child. Such a sad case. She said she ONLY hit him with a pipe 3 times. She should be in jail. Her Lack of empathy is scary.
I know her mom must feel awful, but I have to question her willingness to let Toby stay with them. She said she thought Toby was only 16, but her 14 year-old daughter had a mental age of 10 or 12. There should not have been a boyfriend at all.
You’re blaming the same parents who homeschooled her. So there’s that.
if she was at school she probably would have had friends her own age, the only thing she learnt at home was how to make reckless decisions.
Her attorney used her lack of education as a defence, she wasn’t being home schooled she was living with and having sex with a full grown man under her own mums roof with her permission.
She beat and stabbed a disabled man with no remorse then and none now. And he is dead. She deserves to be in prison the rest of her life. Her family’s lack of empathy for the dead man gives some context but doesn’t stop her accountability. By the age of 12 she knew murder was wrong.
Homeschooling produced weird socially awkward kids. Even if you do social groups with other weird awkward home schooled kids. When I was an educator the kids who came to school after previously being homeschooled were the worst. They weren’t used to having their ideas challenged and were tattle tales… 🙄 I’d take a kid from alternative school over a kid that’s never been to school any day
These cops are ridiculous! Anytime you have a 14 year old girl and a 22 year old male in a relationship you have yourself a crime against the male. Then, throw the fact that he’s already a felon on top of the fact that he is committing statutory rape… My hell! “But it was definitely the girl in charge.”
The mother obviously feels her daughter could not have possibly done the crime. She obviously knows her daughter and this is a tragedy no matter how its looked at. The responsibility falls on her mom for not teaching her daughter that murder would even be a possibility in a 15 year old mind.
She knew exactly what the hell she did!
Absolutely
I agree. And an eye for an eye - she's lucky she gets prison and not death.
I don't feel sorry for her. Also her mother is a terrible one!! 14 and she's letting this dude in there? Then she finds out he's an adult and doesn't report this? This is crazy.
Mother should have been charged with facilitating rape of a minor.Allowing an adult to move in with her minor child.
The poor man who died in such an horrific way. He didn’t stand a chance.
Brutally murdering someone is not being "young and dumb".
? Crime ?
It was a murder for a car.
She did not smoke weed, she killed a guy
I did a lot of stupid stuff in my teenage years and one thing i can confidently say is Every time i did something that was wrong I KNEW IT WAS WRONG! We all learn at a very young age murder is wrong. She's 15, not 5. She went with Toby and participated in the crime freely and willingly she absolutely deserves to be in prison. It's sad they took a life, sad they threw their own lives away sad all the way around. Teenagers do dumb things something but when you commit a crime esp one of this magnitude you have to do the time
Would you do the things you did as a child now as an adult? I know i wouldn't and that makes all the difference
@@looking4things669so you are trolling a child? You are part of what is wrong with society.
@@mtaylor7307 You see in others what's the truth in yourself.
I’m dumfounded as to why in the hell a mother let a boy stay with her 14 yo daughter. The mother needs her head checked.
She seems very proud of herself about running away with a criminal.. she's not a victim only.. some kids just are just evil..
She was old enough to know what she was doing.
Misery loves company he took a ride along with him he didn’t mind going to prison because he have nowhere to go anyway what a waste of a human being and she did no way from wrong he wanted to drag her down right along with him sad
Absolutely! When I was 14 I would have never thought of doing something so heinous
Disturbing how many people are defending a grown man having sex with minors.
What is disturbing is the twisting of people’s support for her being held accountable for her role in killing a disabled man when she knew it was wrong, into something else….. now that is perverse and disturbing ……. As disturbing as her family’s lack of empathy for the man she helped kill…..
It really is. Almost this entire comment section seems ok that Toby...the ADULT....is being portrayed as a victim almost of a minor and are ok with him preying on a 14 yr old girl. It's disgusting. We have the separation of adults and minors in life and in our legal system for a reason. The science tells us their brains aren't developed and they are impulsive. Yet the prosecution refers to Toby as impulsive.
Our own government is ran by pedophiles.
I think they both deserve the death penalty.......quick fast and in a hurry.
That is NOT what’s being said. You’re confused. Let me explain. Yeah, he was an adult - she a child and HE should be held criminally responsible for that crime. However, she WILLINGLY, PHYSICALLY PARTICIPATED IN A MURDER. She doesn’t get a pass on the crimes she committed because a older man had sex with her.
Ridiculous. Everything so ridiculous. What mother let’s her 12/13 year old have a “boyfriend” and talking in that way, “she broke up with her boyfriend”… etc. Only to move in an older male, regardless whether he was 17 or 21. Homeschools her child but letting her have “boyfriends” and moving males into the house with her underage daughter. Total mother of the year. Repulsive.
Her mother, after the verdict, “I almost feel like, because of my decisions in relationships and bad choices…” D’ya THINK??? Not making sure she attended school? Allowing this man to move into your home with your young daughter? Atrocious parenting!!
She knew exactly what she was doing! And being involved with a murder that she participated in is what got her convicted!!
She chose to be with Toby, and she knew how old he was!
She's 15, not 5! Smdh
Her mom should have sent her to public school, and not tried to home school her, clearly it didn't work!! And definitely not let her boyfriend move right on in with them!! Absolutely not!!
This whole case is messed up!!
But making excuses for this murderer is absolutely bullshit!!
She wasn't sorry for anything except being caught!! Smh
She deserves to be right where she is, and so does Toby!!
I agree with you. No victim there but the man who lost his life. 😢
Absolutely, She is evil so much bullshit .
@@babble2leeza
Exactly!!
Don’t blame home schooling! It has nothing to do with that.
Where is her family’s empathy for the man she and her boyfriend killed? None. By the age of 14 she knew murder was wrong and she was not sorry. She’s sorry for herself now. She deserves to be in prison for the rest of her life. Just as the man she participated in killing no longer has a life……
Great job Vinnie and team with this horrible case,greatly explained and filmed. To me they both are guilty in the same degree. She knew perfectly well what both were doing killing that poor man. I don't understand her lawyer being so affected about her fate,she is no saint man. When young people are capable of committing this horrendous crimes, it's telling us how sick our society has become, and what an ominous future is ahead of us.
The Morals of our Country have hit an all time Low, sad but True!
i love your show, Vinnie!! hope it gets renewed every year ❤️
What a terrifying and brutally painful way to die. Im so sorry the victim had to experience that and that his family and friends have to suffer with knowing what he went through. I really hope their hearts have some sort of comfort. I dont know how, but i hope they do❤
It’s clear the mother couldn’t control the girl, the entire time the mother was making excuses and portrayed the girl as an innocent child. She’s no longer a child. Further the mother acted as if she didn’t know he was older than 17, he looks older than 22 imo. Even so, letting him live there, bad idea, but no background investigation first. Mother also acted like she didn’t know if they were having sex😂. The mother is a big part of the problem here. I hope she feels partially responsible for this man’s death bc she is. This is probably the first time this girl has ever had to pay consequences. I don’t agree with life in prison, I think she may have a chance at rehabilitation. But she must pay a hefty price, she took a life.
Her mom practiced bad parenting but she was still a child according to the law. She deserved her prison sentence. But, her actions doesn’t change her status as a minor.
She deserves to spend the rest of her life in prison. She knew what she did was wrong. Her family’s utter lack of empathy for the disabled man she contributed to killing gives some context - however it doesn’t give her a pass ….. I hope she doesn’t make parole…….
I agree with the part about allowing this guy to move in. Come on, she knew they were having sex. I don't think the mom is responsible for them killing a disabled man though. Plenty of people have horrible family lives and don't end up murderers. But I agree this girl had a disorganized family life; clearly, her mom didn't know how to control her.
The mother failed to protect the daughter from a child sex predator. She admitted she allowed the girl to date unsupervised in middle school. Social services should go to the DA to bring charges against the mother.
Dumb mother + no father = problem child
I wonder what was going on in her life that she was homeschooled, and I wonder if she was receiving proper education and if she had a normal teenager social life. This perhaps led to her wanting to leave her life and relocate. The way she behaved during the 2 interviews gives a lot to think about. I feel that there's a lot more to the 'happy, no troble teenager' that her family portrays her to be.
And I just could not take her 'I laugh when I'm nervous' excuse. She never spoke of the victim, only herself and her freedom.
I can promise you, she was one of those kids who wanted to be home schooled just to get out of going to school every day! She was probably always late or always cutting class! So she thought this was perfect for her ! I remember when home schooling first became a thing! So many kids wanted to go this route and begged their parents to let them do it!!
I bet she got kicked out of school for being a manipulative little b word. The way her family enabler her behaviour even now shows what she would got away with and had blamed on other people.
Based on the great judgment her mother shows in these interviews, I’m sure she did an excellent job teaching this little monster.
(Sarcasm, obviously)
The mother talks about her own bad decisions.
The victim sounded like an amazing guy to know. I feel very sorry for everyone who loved him.
Love your new show Vinnie keep up the great awareness in your work ! I watch you from Canada 🇨🇦
Good job Vinnie this was a very good episode 🎉😊
Toby did it all she says ... Not seconds after admitting stabbing him and beating him with a pipe !!!! She knew wtf she was doing . She is a master manipulator . Toby is the one who seems incompetent frankly !! His decision making seems to be hindered by a borderline intelligence issue ! Smdh . She deserves prison just as much as he does if not more
This reminds me of a case in Alberta Canada. A 13 yr old girl manipulated her older boyfriend of 19 to break into her house at night and kill the mother,father and 9yr old brother. THE RICHARDSON CASE. SHE got out at 18yrs old and went on to study at university. After reading about that case I believe she planned it and she killed the 9yr old. Her father that was killed was a school friend of mine. The way he died will never leave my mind. These child killers should get punished as adults. Period.
Kids need to be taught empathy by example. She has no empathy
They deserve life sentence, evil crime.
She is right where she belongs.
I find it odd that they cry for her to spend any time away from her life w/mom, yet they don't care that she made sure that she & toby decided that the man they killed would be fine without his life. 🤔
They drove off in his truck, laughing & living it up with his money, & left him dead. No problem.
Now she just hopes they will forgive her.....boohoo...eh hem..., (under her breath.....she just hopes she can get out & get on with her life.....after all, no one took her life. She just got a change of address.
Her mother brought that 20 something man in her home per request of her 15yr old daughter.
I don't care if he looked 16. They were doing the mcwild under her roof. She knew & that was why she kicked him out. Well, Morgan was ready to run her own life by then.🙄 Momma can't interfere with the good stuff after she let her have it all that time.🐕🐩 What did she expect to happen?🙄
The prosecution had it right & the jury got it right.
She new right from wrong she’s not stupid just mean now away from us
I agree
Morgan was 14 when this started. Her mother let her start dating unsupervised at age 13 in middle school.
I so appreciate the defense attorney on this case.
My own daughter is so kind and sensitive to animals and people that she would never do such a thing, she cries for nothing like when she sees blood on people on TV. She has a good heart. So I know that Morgan was heartless,, she was shelfish and unscrupulous.
Life in prison for killing a man isn’t a harsh sentence lol
My 10 yr old knows better than her
Stop allowing these wackos to roam free let’s make an example out of her
How do you know your 10-year-old knows better? Who would have thought a 14-year-old girl would do such a terrible thing? Her mother and family members didn't see it. Maybe, it was impossible for them to see. Do you have telepathic powers?
... and of others
The mother allowed this boy 17 or 22 to live with her 14yr old daughter is the reason this all set off.
8:49 Poor man😭. May he sleep in Peace. Condolences to the family and friends. 😢🕊🕊💕
So… that’s interesting… Toby was told-off & told to stay away from Morgan (by her mom Gerry) after the revelation of his true age. Yet when he initially lied, and said that he was 16/17-which is still technically OLDER than Morgan-she was okay with them “messing around” in her house? He’s close to 18, even if it was a lie, then what? If Gerry had never found out the truth behind his age lie, and he really were on “the edge of 17”, was she gonna wait til then to kick him out? But until then, oh, no problem, let the kids have their fun; he can stay with us temporarily. Sure.
Gerry also says the police wouldn’t help her, and no Amber Alert was announced early enough. Well, you look a bit enabling so, in a sense, they might think you don’t need urgent help.
I’d agree that she deserves life but the fact they cut the boyfriend a deal is beyond disgusting!
That's standard, whoever sings first gets the better deal as without their confession, it could be difficult to prosecute
As a child sex predator, he threw his victim under the bus. Part of the fun of it for him. Look at the video. He is totally reliving and enjoying it. And he loves how he corrupted that girl! Delish for him.
@@mtaylor7307exactly I had two times when I was young that happened to me where two men at my age of 14 & 16 years old in the 90s who manipulated me & lied to me about there age they both each separate time that happened to me where 21 years old. To believe they where around my age they lied about there age. Once men like this look for young girls with out young girls looking for them. They do have a lot of fear & power they hold & put on a young girl as a victim. Yet that girl had a option to leave that guy. She should of left him. She’s guilty as well equally. We each have the option to stop things that are wrong at anytime in our life. There both at fault they both should be guilty equally. When I found out they where 21 I left them or at least did my best to.
When she said, " I just hit him, twice. I just poked him, it didnt evem went through", I remember Amber Heard said in her trial, I did not punch you, I was just hitting you referring to Johnny Depp..Geez
I bet that man would’ve given the shirt off his back.. knowing all too well life was hard at times. He was just living his life bothering NOBODY.. he didn’t deserve this. When I saw her stop giggling when the detective walked out of the room..I knew she had a hand in it. Just so sad for everyone involved.
👁️👁️. For these TWO to commit sooo horrific a murder on an old man that had such a SEVERE HANDICAP (from birth)
THEY 😵😵 BOTH “DESERVED” DEATH SENTENCE‼️
Did they ever give lie detector test for the 2 ? Every jury & Every part of what they found in a investigation should be shown to the jury in Every case so they get the whole story. Laws are so crazy. She had one of the best & compassionate lawyers. God bless
TY Vinnie. Always so great
I’m still trying to figure out how the cops were able to interrogate her without an adult present. Since this has happened they can’t interrogate a minor without the parent or atty present as they can’t process what is happening and how manipulating the police can be & legally can lie.
She beat and stabbed a disabled man to steal his truck and he is dead. She is where she deserves to be
You don’t know the law. Police most certainly can LEGALLY interrogate a child without a parent present.
It's called being poor and under-educated in America. If you don't have money you take what you can get and lose.
@@looking4things669 It’s called “the police doing their job legally.” The police broke no laws here.
This is a pop 19:20 ular misconception. The police can and do interrogate minors without a parent/guardian present every day. They just go out of their way to notify the parents if it's the child of a wealthy person so the parents can get the kid a lawyer. Their primary purpose is protecting the wealthy who have an entirely differentjustice system than the rest of us.
I don't disagree with the verdict. The testimony of the hitchhiker and Morgan's utter lack of remorse for having any involvement in the murder of that "pervert" was enough for me.
Even at 10 you know what is right or wrong. Got to be something wrong with you to kill a poor handicapped man. It’s sick! She deserves prison.