I honestly never thought I'd enjoy hearing a man ramble on about vowels for 45 minutes so much. It gives me ideas on how to make nice-sounding pronouns/affices/etc in my conlangs
@@halterepetru5547Bruh some people like Conlanging and some People Like that. I personally like this more than Alien Biosphere, not to poop on it or anything but it is not bad, it just appeals to a different audience.
@@theplutonimus yeah, I don’t watch the alien biospheres at all, and only stick around for the conlanging stuff. Different people have different interests.
26:32 "One thing I don't like in any language is when two syllables that begin with 'r' come next to each other. Something like "rarë"? Terrible." *Japanese speakers have left the chat*
@@ertio1297 Funny thing is, i had someone say that to me on a groupchat and i challenged myself to not use the letter anywhere (sort of like Gadsby) and i gave up after a day.
I feel like the deletion of h before stressed long vowels should probably just be a rule here. Great video as always, though I am increasingly confused. Eventually your vision will come together though.
well, I I don't play video games, but I enjoy writing in conlangs I've finished or i'm working on, so thats kind of like a game to play I guess, I mean it has the same purpose of enjoying time doing something I like with something i've worked on you know
@Don Fatale One thing that could be good is creating a Proto-Lang then deriving multiple daughter languages forming their own groupings with their own daughter languages. Then try getting people to reconstruct proto languages and you can see how close they get. Now does sound a bit out there and would take a while.
@@kijul468 I’m doing something like that. The proto-daughter-lang thing. I started what I thought was a regular conlang for a specific people, then I realized it’s the protolanguage for the whole area. The people in the south have three other languages that influence their phonology and lexicon. In the north there is one and to the coast there is one. So. That will be some fun. Just gotta finish the proto basics. And wow does bib make it look like a lifelong process just to get the basics of the proto-lang in there. 😭😭😭
It doesnt have to, sometimes i'll just say random crap, write it down, and then discover what it means Its not creating, but uncovering; Like what real linguistics do, but fictional
When two instances of a properly trilled /r/ are separated by only a short vowel, I often trill straight through the vowel, making a long /rː/ with a secondary articulation, which I think would be a fun historical sound change.
I do, and that's what we've ended up with. In the final case forms at 33:57, the inanimate + singulative () is identical to the plural animate () in the nominative and the genitive.
Not you saying you don't like languages with the 'rh rh' sound next to each other when my language has tense markers based on adding these kind of sounds eek
I like your videos so much that if we were at a café and you spilled coffee on your shirt and were like: "-Oh shoot, I spilled coffee on my shirt, can you give me your shirt? -But I don't have another one, I'd just be shirtless. -Yeah, I know." I'd still give it to you.
You seem to be talking about English phonemes. For many English dialects, schwas and STRUT vowels are just unstressed and stressed versions of [ə], respectively. In English linguistics, however, these are usually written as /ə/ and /ʌ/, or sometimes /ə/ and /ɐ/, because there are dialects where the stressed vowel is significantly lower and further back ([ʌ]) or just lower ([ɐ]) than the unstressed [ə].** This can be somewhat confusing for students whose native dialect uses the same or almost the same vowel quality for both, with only stress being the difference, and might lead people to interpret the IPA symbols as actually just referring stressed and unstressed versions of the same symbol. However, in purely phonetic IPA, and generally outside of English linguistics, [ə], [ʌ], [ɐ], and [ʊ]*, are all different vowel qualities, and there is no cross-linguistic reason why stress must cause any particular quality change from one of these vowel qualities to another. *As a side-note, in Northern England, the STRUT vowel is actually pronounced [ʊ], merging it with the FOOT vowel. **It's also common for unstressed /ə/ to have slightly different pronunciations than [ə], but I think usually higher ones like [ɨ] or [ɪ], though the latter may actually be a phonemic unstressed /ɪ/ some dialects have where others have /ə/.
Can I ask a question? (I want to make a language but there is a problem...) How I make my own letters and make it a keyboard. -I don't know English so much so sorry- -for my bad grammar-
“We are trying to collapse the old gender system.” Suddenly, numerous members of minorities raise their head. Anyway, this is wonderful. In only sixteen sessions, you’ve built a full-on language to the point where I can already hear the distinct feel of it in my head. Your process is also very insightful, and has driven me to create both a collection of convivous languages with their respective families, and a world for them to exist in. May we both continue our respective projects until a satisfying completion.
"I think I might have done this too hastily"
Biblaridon, Episode 16 of a series that began in November 2019
Has it been that long?
Well these videos probably take a long time to do.
I honestly never thought I'd enjoy hearing a man ramble on about vowels for 45 minutes so much. It gives me ideas on how to make nice-sounding pronouns/affices/etc in my conlangs
you have zero self esteem.
Why do all these spec bioers hate the conlanging stuff? Come on guys, both are amazing
I don’t see any con-langing hate at all? Other than the people guessing dates for the next alien biosphere episodes but I don’t consider that hate
I dont hate it, I just dont get a thing about whats going on :p
(but its still weirdly interesting)
Biosphere have more dinamic is interester
@@halterepetru5547Bruh some people like Conlanging and some People Like that. I personally like this more than Alien Biosphere, not to poop on it or anything but it is not bad, it just appeals to a different audience.
@@theplutonimus yeah, I don’t watch the alien biospheres at all, and only stick around for the conlanging stuff. Different people have different interests.
26:32 "One thing I don't like in any language is when two syllables that begin with 'r' come next to each other. Something like "rarë"? Terrible."
*Japanese speakers have left the chat*
*rural, rarer* : are we jokes to you?
@@scptime1188 let's be honest english r is kind of a joke
The japanese passive is just...
@@ertio1297 Funny thing is, i had someone say that to me on a groupchat and i challenged myself to not use the letter anywhere (sort of like Gadsby) and i gave up after a day.
Reminds me of that episode of 30 rock where someone was in a movie called “the rural juror” and no one could say it right
Also I find the whole thing greatly enjoyable, but also I run words through sound changes for fun so who knows how much my word is worth.
Trust me, you're in good company. :)
31:00 Having tira as one of the forms could be a fun easter egg if nothing else
Hello good patron
hello Sorrel
Can you please make a video on how a conlang can develop tones?
David peterson has some of that on his channel, stranger
Through stress and loss of final stop consonants maybe
Through tonogenesis. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tone_(linguistics)#Origin Yes, the fabled Tonogenesis Evengelion. "Get in the paradigm, Sandhi."
Thanks a lot you guys
What a treat. Extra long video. If I'm honest, I've forgotten what that grid of words even is, but I still enjoy watching
45 minutes of pure conlanging! This is awesome!
I feel like the deletion of h before stressed long vowels should probably just be a rule here. Great video as always, though I am increasingly confused. Eventually your vision will come together though.
Conlanging feels like programming but there's no game to play when you're done.
There's the game of randomly speaking it and watching people around you freak out.
well, I I don't play video games, but I enjoy writing in conlangs I've finished or i'm working on, so thats kind of like a game to play I guess, I mean it has the same purpose of enjoying time doing something I like with something i've worked on you know
@Don Fatale One thing that could be good is creating a Proto-Lang then deriving multiple daughter languages forming their own groupings with their own daughter languages. Then try getting people to reconstruct proto languages and you can see how close they get. Now does sound a bit out there and would take a while.
@@kijul468 I’m doing something like that. The proto-daughter-lang thing. I started what I thought was a regular conlang for a specific people, then I realized it’s the protolanguage for the whole area.
The people in the south have three other languages that influence their phonology and lexicon. In the north there is one and to the coast there is one. So. That will be some fun. Just gotta finish the proto basics. And wow does bib make it look like a lifelong process just to get the basics of the proto-lang in there. 😭😭😭
It doesnt have to, sometimes i'll just say random crap, write it down, and then discover what it means
Its not creating, but uncovering; Like what real linguistics do, but fictional
Woah, I didn't expect those two parts to be uploaded only a week apart!
watching this is so exciting. my languages are never naturalistic so seeing this has really made me interested in naturalistic languages for once
really love this series
When two instances of a properly trilled /r/ are separated by only a short vowel, I often trill straight through the vowel, making a long /rː/ with a secondary articulation, which I think would be a fun historical sound change.
Extra long episode of Conlanging Case Study? Now that's what I'd call pog
When the palatals disappear without traces
Not even 1K views yet?.......wow, I'm kinda early.
Yu must use notifications to get that early.
Don’t you want 5+6=4? You want syncretism right?
I do, and that's what we've ended up with. In the final case forms at 33:57, the inanimate + singulative () is identical to the plural animate () in the nominative and the genitive.
I'm glad I'm not the only one with a disgust of rVrV. Every language I have ever made gets rid of this sequence in modern somehow.
SUGGESTION: Use the US-International keyboard to type those diacritics vowels faster. For example, typing "ë" is as simple as typing [ + e].
Not you saying you don't like languages with the 'rh rh' sound next to each other when my language has tense markers based on adding these kind of sounds eek
I like your videos so much that if we were at a café and you spilled coffee on your shirt and were like:
"-Oh shoot, I spilled coffee on my shirt, can you give me your shirt?
-But I don't have another one, I'd just be shirtless.
-Yeah, I know."
I'd still give it to you.
Can you do a video about the language of the K'ama people?
"rare" (/rarə/) means "weird" in Dutch.
Pretty sad you didn't keep any infix -ra- form
We'll get plenty of /-ra-/ infixes with the perfective converb, which derives from the same /-su/ ending as the genitive.
@@Biblaridion ooh nice
Quick question: don’t the stressed schwas turn into a strut vowel?
You seem to be talking about English phonemes. For many English dialects, schwas and STRUT vowels are just unstressed and stressed versions of [ə], respectively. In English linguistics, however, these are usually written as /ə/ and /ʌ/, or sometimes /ə/ and /ɐ/, because there are dialects where the stressed vowel is significantly lower and further back ([ʌ]) or just lower ([ɐ]) than the unstressed [ə].**
This can be somewhat confusing for students whose native dialect uses the same or almost the same vowel quality for both, with only stress being the difference, and might lead people to interpret the IPA symbols as actually just referring stressed and unstressed versions of the same symbol. However, in purely phonetic IPA, and generally outside of English linguistics, [ə], [ʌ], [ɐ], and [ʊ]*, are all different vowel qualities, and there is no cross-linguistic reason why stress must cause any particular quality change from one of these vowel qualities to another.
*As a side-note, in Northern England, the STRUT vowel is actually pronounced [ʊ], merging it with the FOOT vowel.
**It's also common for unstressed /ə/ to have slightly different pronunciations than [ə], but I think usually higher ones like [ɨ] or [ɪ], though the latter may actually be a phonemic unstressed /ɪ/ some dialects have where others have /ə/.
are you trilling (and not tapping) your Rs out of choice ?
The r are trilled in this conlang
Can I ask a question?
(I want to make a language but there is a problem...)
How I make my own letters and make it a keyboard.
-I don't know English so much so sorry- -for my bad grammar-
I love tissa
@@samuelsamuelson8695 what?
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I like -tissa
Where is ....................... oh sorry
yay!
Noice
“We are trying to collapse the old gender system.”
Suddenly, numerous members of minorities raise their head.
Anyway, this is wonderful. In only sixteen sessions, you’ve built a full-on language to the point where I can already hear the distinct feel of it in my head. Your process is also very insightful, and has driven me to create both a collection of convivous languages with their respective families, and a world for them to exist in.
May we both continue our respective projects until a satisfying completion.
Oh cool, early.
For the biospheres you should make flying insects
Please make another alien biospheres episode
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ALIEN BIOSPHERES
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Here are my predictions for when to expect new Alien Biosphere.
Ep 10 February
Ep 11 April
Ep 12 June
Ep 13 August
Ep 14 October
Ep 15 December
*Don't JUST cross your fingers, you also gotta cross your grabby spoodermonky "fingers" too.*
@Hayden the Toa the pattern of the episode schedule?
@Hayden the Toa øķ