Delusions of Gender (p2). Cordelia Fine

Part 1 | Part 2 Looking at the brain to try and find out why men and women behave differently is something that has been going on for centuries. Today, the practice is still going...

[@TheBudStevens]

I can't find part 1

[@jasminep8077]

for people who are asking for part 1 of the video, if you didn't find it yet, here you are: blip.tv/slowtv/delusions-of-gender-p1-cordelia-fine-4256927

[@grantbarnes3678]

+Jasmine P This link is no longer working. This has been my go-to video to share, so I'd like to get a copy. Do you know a way?

[@jasminep8077]

+Grant T B Hey, sorry that link is not working... I found another one that should include the whole speech, see if it can work for you: library.fora.tv/2010/10/02/Cordelia_Fine_Delusions_of_Gender

[@grantbarnes3678]

Right on, thanks.

[@grantbarnes3678]

***** I've been looking into ways to download a backup copy with my Mac, but haven't found one yet (ilivid wouldn't launch, for instance). Downloads from fora.tv are behind a paywall. Do you know a way to get a copy?

[@jasminep8077]

+Grant T B No, sorry. But if you google the name of the conference you should find other websites that host the speech, maybe one of them is on a different platform which allows downloading.

[@richardouvrier3078]

Social constructivism v biology.

[@felixgrant1]

Where is part 1!

[@reconstructingphilosophy]

@jamada d, why not add a link? I'm not finding it either.

[@richardouvrier3078]

Self-fulfilling prophesies due to stereotypes, the key to Fines argument.

[@BUSeixas11]

richard ouvrier yes, but research on stereotype threat has received much criticism lately

[@salmoriaty]

@@BUSeixas11 Could you please send the proof as would like to read it

[@salmoriaty]

@@BUSeixas11 There was many years ago and then a study looking into it you can see here booksc.org/book/60875569/2bc099 but after 2006 is there any criticism?

[@BUSeixas11]

@@salmoriaty there has. This blog post has links to quite a few papers: russellwarne.com/2020/08/10/the-67-5-million-wasted-on-stereotype-threat-research/

[@salmoriaty]

@@BUSeixas11 Thanks but he's picked a few stereotype threat studies that didn't claim one way or another. There are numerous findings during that time or since that time. if you want to know more I can help

[@sophbookers9580]

I adored this book

[@jesipohl6717]

Did you know she's transphobic?

[@willslingwood]

Omg Fine is brilliant!

[@jesipohl6717]

She's transphobic.
She wrote a "what is a woman" article advancing transphobia in the eugenics-promoting journal, "the journal for controversial ideas".

[@azamizah]

Gender has nothing to do with cognitive differences…. Gender is biological differences, distinctive functions of the body, emotion, and mind that are embedded within you. However it could be interrupted by education and self experiences which “programmed” new belief and ideology.

[@jesipohl6717]

Cordelia is anti-trans just like you

[@richardmeyer1837]

A Man Is A Man And A Women Is A Women Period

[@gauravgupta5397]

She is so funny!.. Oh wait! Aren't men funnier then women? She has a male brain!

[@jesipohl6717]

She's anti trans

[@hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894]

You can not feel female. What does that mean

[@whiterabit09]

let me help, its called maths, you post part 1 then part 2....

[@randytate]

She asks, "Who will we be laughing at in 50 years time?" and I have to say, mostly likely, her. She did not contend with the real arguments that note differences between men and women. It makes sense she attacked the neuroscience and brain physiology, since this is the area we know the least about and thus make a soft attack point. But this is not the thrust of the argument. Even if we had never seen a brain with any imaging whatsoever, we would still have to clear the hurdle of the observations we see across the entire primate phylogenetic order. Certainly some of the behaviors cannot be explained away are cultural bias when its seen in macaques too.

[@Movies313]

bro It is clear that her mentality is based on feminist ideology

[@OMAIMHREEM]

education, culture, compulsive parenting , society all these create gender

[@subhuman3408]

Do a toy ( people vs things ) test to 5 month old babies. Experience the result for yourself.

[@ham1530]

Every complex animal on this planet is either a boy or a girl, most animals stay as the given gender until death with a few exceptions.

[@Nic-xr8sd]

@@ham1530 Read Lucy Cooke's new book.

[@ham1530]

@@Nic-xr8sd I’m not paying for a fantasy book

[@Nic-xr8sd]

@@ham1530 She is a zoologist, working for several years in contatct with animals, it is not a fantasy book.