Pentecostalism
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- We look at the rise of Pentecostalism in the Protestant church and the later charismatic movement.
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I have nothing but bad memories of the Pentacostal church. I remember being fearful as a child watching people speak gibberish, fall on the ground and convulse, satanic panic, conspiracy theories, armageddon etc. This fear followed me everywhere and in everything I did as a young person. Now as an adult I see the church as a emotionally manipulative mad house.
If you research and read translation by actual clergy/rabbi that speak greek and hebrew you will see that faith healing, speaking in tongues, tithing etc is all lies. TH-cam rabbi tovia singer....explains with scripture in detail about these lies.
They hinted that I have a demon, gee whiz, I was born with epilepsy, shame on ya
@@VoltedSoldier You should do your own research and I am stating this in a nice way not trying to be rude. I am Pentecostal myself, I follow the Old Path not the Liberal Path. All of the things that you stated that a rabbi said it was all lies are actually not and are in the bible. First you're listening to a rabbi which doesn't even believe in the new testament or Jesus being the Messiah or son of God. Tithing is actually in the Torah which for us is the old testament. In Genesis Jacob literally made a pact with God that he was going to give the tenth percent of what God would give him if he blesses him. So is not a lie, jews are actually supposed to do tithing themselves. That's why God was calling his people thieves in Malachi ch 3 ver 8-10(in others book too God has called them thieves.) Speaking in tongues is in 1 Corinthians ch 14 ver 2-5, which explains that speaking in tongues is to speak to God not to others and no one knows what is said for it is mysteries of the spirit but it can be interpreted its in the same chapter. Speaking in tongues is a gift from the holy spirit. Healing by faith is also in the old and new testament. Read exodus 15:26, 23:25, psalms 107:19-20 plus more. In the New Testament 1 of Peter 2:24 , John 14:12 and more. So, after reading those passages let me know if you still believe they're lies :).
@@carriechapman2365 It is mentioned in Matthew ch 17 ver 14-18. A man from the crowd went in front of Jesus and stated to save his son because he has epilepsy and suffers terribly and Jesus reprimanded and a demon came out of the boy and was healed from that moment forward. I apologize if it made tou feel a type of way but whomever saud that to you should've had backed it up through the scriptures. The things that are said are said because it is written in the bible. Not saying that everyone who calls themselves a christian is one or knows about the scriptures, but that's a whole other topic. May God bless you in your journey.
I attended a Pentecostal church at an invite. Believe in God and have accepted Him in my life long ago etc …. Loved the community feel of the congregation yet the preaching was “off” and more showy and all the chaos made it hard to concentrate. Also wow. The music was uplifting yet also distracting with everyone dancing and prancing and grinding everywhere. In between my community and Baptist churches for straight up teaching I visit weekly I’ll visit them one more time
A man went to the Pastor of his church and said, “I won't be attending Church anymore.”
Pator said, “May I ask why?”
He said, “I see people on their cell phones texting and typing during the service, some are gossiping, some just aren’t living right, some are sleeping, some are staring at me, they are all just hypocrites.”
The Pastor was silent. Then he said, “Can I ask you to do something for me before you make your final decision?”
He said, “Sure, what's that?”
He said, “Take a glass of water and walk around the church two times and don't let any water fall out of the glass.”
He said, “Yes I can do that!” He went and got the glass of water and walked around the church two times. He came back and said proudly, “It's done.”
The pastor asked him these questions; “Did you see anybody on their phone?; Did you see anybody gossiping?; Was anybody living wrong?; Did you see anyone sleeping?”
He said, “I didn't see anything because I was so focused on this glass, so the water wouldn't spill out”
He told him, “When you come to church , you should be just that focused on God , so that you don't fall. That’s why Jesus said, ‘Follow Me’, He did not say follow them.”
Don't let your relationship with God be determined by how others relate with God. Let it be determined by how focused you are with God.
AMEN
I wonder if I could ask the famous Rick Ross a personal question regarding his affiliation or lack of affiliation with God?
I like it.
Here is another; If you find a perfect church don't go there you'll ruin it.
I like this church because it has a lot of hypocrites so they won't mind one more.
The Church is a hospital for sinners not a country club for saints.
Hi Pat, the Rick Ross i'm referring to is famous for being perhaps the world's leading authority on deprogramming cult victims! He has gained credence and stature with a strong internet presence!
@@truethinker221 Exactly so true thinker! I think it was Groucho Marx who stated he could not be a part of any club which would have him!
Hi Rick Ross...I just saw this message/story on Facebook this week...Good story, but my thought is that the pastor still needs to check his flock. Too much stuff going on in church nowadays, it's often a distraction to people. He should consider it a coaching moment for the congregation.
I grew up apostolic Pentecostal and always heard that the difference between us and charismatic was that charismatic taught how to speak in tongues while we believed it was something that could not be taught
Chris Fields that's just weird.
@@mzeewatk846 Which part?
Of course it can be taught. After all, all it is is jibber jabber jibber. I was briefly involved in the Catholic charismatic movement and that's all I did.
@Patrick Montgomery Be honest with yourself, Pstrick. All you are doing is going jibber jabber jibber.
"How can you tell if someone is filled with the Holy Spirit? By how much they love the Catholic Church."
--St. Augustine
One cannot truly teach how to speak in tongues but guide not necessarily teach how to receive the Spirit as the original apostles had. This has never stopped, just had to go underground If you will.
The Holy Spirit became the Spirit of evangelism throughout the world, first using the apostles then the early believers until CHRISTIANITY became the Rome chosen religion and when pagan religious beliefs diluted the teachings of Jesus and the apostles because of many racism and bigotry of the Jewish troublemakers.
I was raised in a Pentecostal church and I just wanna say... thank you.
You have shown knowledge and wisdom about our movement. Many people misunderstand us and mock us- but you have not. You simply explained.
This is my first of yours that I have seen and I look forward to seeing your other videos. You have earned my subscription. Gracias & GBU
@Matthew Pace prove it....
@Matthew Pace Ok... let's play your silly little game, shall we?
I agree that all religions are evil and poisonous to us and to the earth... we can agree there...
Then you misrepresent the golden rule, which by the way, is older than judaism and xtianity... so again, no problem there..
Then you go on to say that all the world's bibles are full of god's truth mixed with satan's lies... here we have a problem.
If the bible is corrupt.. then where do you get your information about your god? The bible is really the only source.. the entire story comes from the bible, as full or error and contradiction as it is. However, without the bible ie: the torah and the rest of the old testament and the new testament, you don't really have any extrabiblical information about god and jesus etc... so how can you believe, without the bible? You have lost me here...
Then again, since there is no good credible evidence that a god (or gods) exist, and also no good credible evidence that satan exists.. there really is no need to play your silly little game, as it is a moot point. You can assert this crap all you like, yet, there is no foundational truth in what you claim.
The Fool says there is no God, therefore He serves only himself and fears He will answer to The Creator of All.. The Only Book is The King James.. Keep The Truth simple, like a child.. Pray in Sincerity for Yeshua, Jesus Christ to reveal Himself to you.. Study/Read and Fast.. Allow The Father to teach you in your Spirit with the Holy Spirit.. Ignore ALL Religions.. The Messiah was not Religious, He is Only Truth..👏🙏💪☝
@Matthew Pace ok.. what are the correct god's laws you are talking about, if not in the bible? How is anyone expected to follow said rules, if no one knows what they are? Since you claim to know, please let us know. I want to know what is from god and what is from Satan... please.. help me brother...
@@Justaguywithtruth you are holding up the King James version as the correct version of the bible?? Now that's a laugh... have you researched how the king james bible came to be? It dates from the early 1600s... and was created for the church of england... and is based on the textus receptus, which themselves were a translation by earlier scholars. He could have gone back to the oldest texts we had, but he did not do this.. therefore, it is not the best translation out there... thus, more apt to be mistranslation etc... in other words, not the inerrant word of god, now is it?
Wow, someone who knows there's a difference between Pentecostals and Charismatics! Love it !
God bless you my brother for the insights
Yeah! Pentecostal s have 10 more devil's than the Charasmatics.
@Rebecca Z. I agree
Interesting how ascribing demons is what Pharisee’s said about Jesus.
And both are as bad as each other..
My Grandmother was married to a Pentecostal preacher that did tent revivals throughout Texas. Her mother was black Dutch and her Dad was Irish. She married the Pentecostal preacher (an Indian and Eastern European Blend). My sister was Pentecostal and is now Charismatic. We were raised in California and everyone goes to River or Bethal type churches there in her family. I wish I could be like her. She is SO hospitable and fun loving. None of us have as large, close knit, families that seem so happy. They got something right! But I never heard you aren’t Christian if you don’t speak in tongues or prophesies from ANY Pentecostal relatives. So maybe you’re not getting that part right. My Grandparents were church of God and my Sister is not.. they all love music and worshiping. I think her children are more cool young types that practice all the gifts and are kind and artsy types that are not rigid or uptight. Sweet people. I wish I could be that good and gentle natured. My experience would say they are of great faith and sweet, modern people in their eras.
New Subscriber-for-Life! Exactly what I want: short, meaty message with clever, pertinent illustrations!
Love this whole series on church history. Thank you.
It's great listening to you. At 64, you prove it's never too late to learn more about Christianity. Thanks!
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Gissie Bruh, what?
@@pessimistprime6318 I think hes practicing to speak in tounges
Have you read the Book of Mormon? 😏
You could just talk to a local united pentacostal chruch..
This is the most comprehensive and informative presentation on Pentecostalism I have come across - full of historical facts no emotional or irrational presumptions. I salute you Ryan Reeves.
Thank you for defining these various faiths. I really appreciate this!
Do some more research is not correct in all he says here.
I went to a Pentecostal Church. The main book that they care about is Acts. I was baptized there, not in the name of the Father , The Son and the Holy Spirit, like Jesus taught, at the end of Matthew. As I was coming out of the water, they tried to coach me into speaking in tongues, but there was no one to interpret it. I watched them coach people repeatedly. Young children and teenagers especially. I had only went to that church for 2 weeks and they asked me to be baptized there. I had already been baptized, and the name of the Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit. The woman there, wore dresses down to their ankles and wore no makeup and didn't cut their hair. People ran around the room. I'm speaking about adults. I no longer go to any church. I read my Bible at home. I really dislike organized religion. I love our father and Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
@MyTwoCents , Sounds about right! Lol
ye thats not right. i am pentacostal and have never seen or experianced that teaching toungs. toungs is both a gift and proof of being filled with the holy spirit.
Ryan, what a treasure to stumble upon this. Thanks for everything you've done with these videos.
Thank you for providing this content! I am genuinely committing to my education for basically the first time in my life and you are a superb resource. Sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, thank you.
Katherine,
Kudos to you for educating yourself...👍👍
I have found an on-going gaining of more knowledge from a variety different perspectives - challenging every assertion and assumption - including my own - and fully opening up my heart to God the man Christ Jesus - slowly I have cast aside the darkness of evangelical insanity and immorality.
This man is NO source.
He is a full-blown Christian Apologist. You can do much better than this guy who is very clever but surely steering toward fundamental evangelicism if not total Christian Nationalism. If that is what you want, he is the guy.
If you think and learn for yourself, you will spot guys like this a mile away.
@@Instramark what are you talking about
I was raised Charismatic Roman Catholic. My family went through the Life in the Spirit Seminar / Catholic Charismatic Renewal in the late 70s. We attend mass every week and don’t behave any differently, treating mass with reverence since we are receiving the Eucharist. However, we attend prayer meetings with other Charismatics where we pray in tongues, sing worship songs with our hands raised and we faith share. A lot of people don’t realize that Catholics can be Charismatics too and always assume we are Pentecostal so I thought I would share what it’s like. God bless!
Must be several tensions trying to hold Rome together in your life?? 🧐
@@P.H.888 doesn't sound like it to me. It seems she's got it pretty well sorted out.
I myself watched a documentary on popes . I will never bow down to a man I watched the Pope say he was the light the truth and the way . And you cannot get to heaven unless you go through him what a joke . The bible says something about mystery Babylon and the great whore . Read this and study . God is the only way not man
Oh wow! Never knew.
Yes I understand but as long as it does not go against, sugar coat, or change the scriptures and you only believe in the truth and not in grave images bc the only we should worship is our lord in savior
"...seem to have gone the opposite in their makeup use..." That was a sly shot! Love these videos! I feel the need to donate to help the cause.
Very well composed (and produced) presentation of a topic close to my heart!
Thank you!!
I was born and raised in the Pentecostal tradition, I worshiped in other mainline evangelical churches in my 20's and became convinced that the work of the Holy Spirit had been neglected in the traditional mainline churches. I am now 55 years old, and I love to see the Spirit of God move in the church just as described in the book of acts. The Holy Spirit empowers the believer to live the life Christ has called us to live. Yes, the Spirit of Christ is with us to fill us and empower us today. And, nowhere in scripture does it say these signs and wonders should cease. If you believe Jesus emptied Himself and became flesh, and He himself was empowered by the Holy Spirit (anointed- Christ- messiah) to do the will of the Father, How much more should we seek the fullness of the Holy Spirit? When the crowds gathered to ask what the outpouring of the Holy Spirit as all about Peter preached the "This is That" sermon- they were cut to the heart and asked, "What must we do to be saved?" Peter said, ""repent and let everyone of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the Holy Spirit. IT'S REAL FOLKS! IT IS FOR US TODAY LET GODS WORD CONVINCE OF THIS TRUTH
Amen!
Me too,have seen the move of God and experienced it first hand.BUT i noted due to greed of the people other spirits have been invited in many churches to lure people with miracles,signs and wonders with a spirit of divination. The Bible says we test the spirits but how do we test a spirit that we have allowed to operate in our midst for long, unless we seek deliverance.
Even the charismatic and Pentecostals don't operate with the same spirit.its as though those with deeper anointing are competing.each side calling the other false.
My point is ; are we able to give a clear direction to Holy ghost outpouring before illuminati takes full control.
And is exorcism part of the game because i have seen many pastors trying to question demons in the process of deliverance and they get answers from the demons.
I used to hear people say " if you inquire from a witch doctor you will be told your relative has sent you a spell",is this any different from what we are seeing in Pentecostal churches?why do they listen to what evil spirits have to say knowing well that is "deciever".
Don Phillips so do you keep the commandments? Otherwise you cannot claim to have the Spirit of Truth!
Ah, I see you are a Judaizer.
Amen!!🕊🙌
My favorite part about the Pentecostals is how diversify their congregations are. You still see that today. I’ve been to lotta denominations and I have never seen the diversity like I see in Penecostal churches or assemblies of God. I think it’s interesting that is their actual origin
Charismatic pentavostalz alo galse tez hing all ecumenicism false.
Where? I grew up in church in california and yet everyone was white....
@@gissie391 You need to stop posting because you don't make sense and nobody can understand you...
@James Ciaburri absolutely
That was a practical compromise they made, 'cause dollars (tithes, collections or offerings) only have one color...🤔
Jimmy Swaggart preaching by the grace of God has saved many souls. That is what Christianity is all about the blood of Jesus saves mankind.
Probably the best Documentary on Pentecostal movement.
Thanks and God bless you for bringing clarity to many who have no clue of Pentecostals but speak evil without investigating first.
Professor.... you are doing an amazing job! Thank you for the work you are doing.
Love this history lesson brother! You always make great teaching videos!
5 years on and your lectures are still having an impact. Im loving learning about church history. Thank you so much for your faithful research and teaching.
You are a true gift to the church.
Bless you.
What’s the church?
@@Luke-Emmanuel Read your Bible! 😃
@@noahm44 Yes, the bible that the Catholic church put together, and then protestants removed books from it.
Blinded by Satan god of This world
@@cindyhernandez2771The Church that put the Bible together in the council of Hippo didn’t believe in Purgatory,mandatory cult of the Saints,Rosary, Papal infallibility as these things became dogmas very late. Completely different churches.
Thank you for the well-narrated, and intelligible content. Sometimes it’s difficult to find videos you can hear on an iPhone from 10 feet away.
This video literally explained so many answers to questions I had.
Wow, a very fair presentation! As a pentecostal pastor I am well used to intellectual slander, but who ever this man is, he has been fair and balanced in his presentation. I would like to hear more of his materials.
philipbloomfield speaking as a person attended a Pentecostal church for many years , i notice it was always attended by a lot of people who were not inclined to thinking for themselves very much
Michael Kevin Millet you think I wouldn’t have noticed if it was a Catholic Church ? What a childish question ...
great video. as a non denominational charismatic pastor this was very much enjoyable and educational. thanks for your unbiased commentary.
Ryan, thank you so much for your diligent scholarship and hard work in putting these lectures on youtube. I grew up as a missionary kid in the Assemblies of God (pentecostal) denomination and I am currently an AG minister. I think this summary of the history of the pentecostal movement is brilliantly done. I don't understand why anyone would feel like you are being critical of charismatics or pentecostals. We who have grown up in the movement are very aware of its excesses and faults (or we should be). I'm so glad I discovered your youtube channel. I also enjoyed your lecture on the Great Schism. I'm hooked and I'm looking forward to watching more of your videos. What I love about your lectures and the thing that comes through so clearly is your sincere love for the gospel and your love for the Lord! Thanks again, and keep up the amazing work!
Tim Hiatt Hi Tim I grew up in an AG church in the 60s and 70s. And I loved it. But there are no good AG churches here anymore. They for the most part have gotten away from their roots and are more involved in the seeker friendly movement. I currently attend a fundamental Baptist church which is much more the way AG use to be. What a shame
@@mrnoedahl May I ask how it has changed?
That's a total lie.
@@dawinner777 - Maybe you could be a little more specific...
@Gary Daniel Lol
Hey Rayen, you are the first TH-cam channel to get my subscription and Bell. Awesome work!
It would be interesting to explore the rise of these movements in tandem with the rise of mass media. Faster moving print media, radio and television had to have a huge influence on this movement.
That's a great thesis question. This movement did not have the time and space to iron itself out in seclusion. It burst forth into criticism and derision and it seems its having yo iron itself out in real time.
But there are some very dangerous doctrines developing too.
Ive been hesitant to join the church across the street from me.. it's been almost calling out to me and and I think I'm going to church on Sunday for the first time in years
Sabbath is Saturday. 7th day
When someone begins to read scripture and are baptised in the Holy Spirit. They begin to understand why Jesus did what he did. We begin to understand why he came, We begin to allow him to mold our lives into being filled with the spirit. Without holiness you will not even see God. Holiness and being filled with the spirit helps us become a more mature Christian. When the devil comes around you, you know how to deal with him. It also helps you see the miracles Jesus is doing around us. This helps you grow stronger in the faith.
We walk by faith, not by sight.
@Paul Wise i can copy and paste too.
@Reactionary HermitI will never be Catholic ever again and I certainly will never attend another apostate Protestant church as long as I live. You can pray all you want for me but I will seek to live closer to and follow Jesus Christ alone and NO MAN. That means no pedophile priest or pedophile pastor who was appointed by man and not God. If you believe the Catholic Church is the only church then why all the pedophilia and abuse that still exists in the church? Don't tell me that it exists in every church because that is nonsense. God has always had a remnant of believers who have not been corrupted by religion and the apostacy and well his true children are either stuck in bondage to religion or have come out of religion and apostacy period. You can not be a faithful disciple of Jesus Christ and follow man and his wicked errors. You either follow them or you follow Jesus. It's time for you to repent and leave the Catholic Church and go home and pray for discernment and read your Bible. Stop letting a priest or anyone who isn't led by the Holy Spirit tell you what to believe. Better yet repent of your sins first and accept what Jesus did for your way to heaven.
hahaha
Acts 2:38
Brother Reeves you also failed to mention the Church of God in Christ which is the oldest Pentecostal denomination and the largest in the United States. They started as a holiness movement in 1897 and begin as a Pentecostal Holiness church in 1907. They are founded by Bishop Charles Harrison Mason.
+Dustfromwhichitcame // Thanks for the post. I left them off because their story is so large and important. It's only a quick survey, mind you! :) But I'd like to cover them as well in a later video.
+Ryan Reeves Thank you Brother. I look forward to the video on the Church of God in Christ.
I notice COGIC is always left out of any religious discussions or religious surveys.
@@RyanReevesM hey I just have a question it is what Christian domination should I be should I be baptized or Anglican or something ?I am a Christian that believes in the holy ghost and I believe its grace through faith that we are saved and I believe we are all one in Christ but do I need to have a domination or can I just be Christian pls answer I am confusr
@@thewatchfullion1012 There were no denominations in the first century. Were there Christians in the first century? Yes.
Therefore, being a follower of Christ does not involve being part of a denomination.
Those who are members of denominations are followers of those humans who made and the later ones who run the denomination of which they are members.
Short, unbiased, and articulate summary of Pentecostalism and Charismatics. Well done.
i really enjoy history. wish i had in high school..lol
and your voice is perfect for night time listening. thank you for your time
I know what you mean ha
Grew up in a Pentecostal family, When I got out of high school I began attending the Episcopal church. It's been 42 years now and never been more happier in my life.
repent, from trintarianism you need to come home
@@eyeofthestorm67 what about trinitarianism?
@@eyeofthestorm67 heretic troll
Why?
@@eyeofthestorm67 tell that to 1 John 5:7-8
The holy spirit set my soul free on the day of Pentecost
When I received the fullness of the Holy Spirit I spoke in beautiful unknown languages, however, what happened to me a shy inward man, was remarkable! I became bold and started to preach Christ crucified to everyone. Acts 1:8, you shall receive power and be witnesses...
I got my family saved then many others! Some became Pastors of large churches.
What happened??? Power!
No wonder Apostle Paul asked the question in Acts 19, “Have you received the Holy Spirit since you believed?”
Why even ask the question if we receive it at first faith??
My recommendation is that you experience this Pentecostal experience instead of just studying it.
My heart is full of love for Jesus and it overflows still today because of my personal experience of Acts 2:1-4. Grace, Peace, and Love be multiplied to you.
Speaking in tongues? Give me a break. Try researching the context of those scriptures by actual greek/hebrew speaking theologians/clergy/rabbi. Speaking in tongues is a joke, just like faith healing, and the trinity.
@@VoltedSoldier What are people speaking then?
Demonic languages and curses. I was in that church once as a teen and it gave me the creeps big time. I do have friends in that church and they are really cool though. I just don't trust those weird dialects.
Personally if I could define the Pentecostal movement, as one raised in it, it’s this.
We wanted to figure out who The Holy Spirit actually was in the Trinity, rather then just some outside invisible force who doesn’t play much of a roll, and then from there learn how to implement Him into every area of our Christian lives and faith according to what had been taught in the scriptures.
It’s pretty significant considering we brought the Third Person of the Trinity into the very serious place of relevance where He rightfully belongs. Being that He is just as much God as Jesus Christ Himself.
But make fun of us if you want... haha, considering all the other denominations haven’t seen a Revival in over 120 years but we have ushered in that Massive 500 million Christians number, I would call that a “Massive Revival” and the next massive Revival that does come will definitely build off of the foundations laid by Pentecostalism.
Surely the speaking in tongues was just a way of telling the gospel to foreigners.
As for the trinity - Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
God made man in his OWN image. Man is mind, body and soul. Whats not to get.
Holy Spirit is the spirit of truth which is of God and is God
God = Jesus = Holy Spirit
Holy Spirit was the gift left by Jesus for us after his death. The kingdom of God is now within those who wish to access. Just have faith, repent of sin and be holy. Oh look another trinity.
Read the bible for yourself. DO NOT RELY ON SOMEONE ELSE FOR YOUR SALVATION.
You read, you become the priest to your temple.
Hurry up. His holiness will return sooner than you think
Glory to God
As a counterpoint, I would be interested to hear an exposition on dispensationalism in the church.
Gear Daddy -dispensationalism is merely a means to divide up the Bible into movements, it is not doctrine. Being Pentecostal can influence your doctrine negatively and send you to hell, but you can be a dispensationalist and it has no effect on eternity.
Bro William branham has a tremendous book called.....an exposition of the 7 church ages....very informative and revealing
Thank you for the balanced review
Very interesting. Thank you. I grew up in a non - denominational charismatic mega church in Mexico City. I still hold to certain ideals and view points of it. I appreciate your point of view. I believe you were fair on your observations.
The hardest part for me is... I left the Mormon church and the conservative norms. I've been attending a Pentacostal church for almost two years but still feel disconnected, I have also been attending a Babtist church also, but I can't seem to connect there either. Stuck in limbo I guess. I spend most of my time keeping my mouth shut because I'm still learning.
Be connected with Jesus, that is possible even though most groups are not going to be able to help you do that
Study the word on your own too. You have to be in the word.
I suspect you need to be part of a more structured, historically rooted church. I see parallels between the Church of Jesus Christ - LDS and the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches. LDS has a President and a Prophet, parallel to a Pope or Patriarch. Historically, is a central city for the worldwide church - Salt Lake City, Rome, and Constantinople /Istanbul. The church relies on a hierarchy of authority with power and responsibilities delegated to bishops and ministers. There are core texts - the Book of Mormon, the Holy Bible, the writings of scholars like Thomas Aquinas (Roman) and the Patristic texts (E. Orthodoxy).
I grew up Episcopalian, converted to Roman Catholic, and have finally settled in as Eastern Orthodox. I have always been part of a global, historically grounded, liturgical, Christian church. I have just been working my way back to the earliest origins of Christianity and have found that Eastern Orthodoxy is the most historically authentic Christian church. It contains so many treasures, mostly little known in the Western Hemisphere. Speaking of Pentecostalism, the theological disagreement that finally divided Christianity between Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox after 1022 years(!) of fundamental agreement was over the role of the Holy Spirit. This is still very important with the Orthodox seeing the Holy Spirit as absolutely vital, coequal to Jesus Christ. The Roman Catholic interpretation is the Hoky Spirit is the love proceeding from the Father and the Son, connecting them together and therefore not coequal with the Son.
Churches are filled with fallible human beings, so I'm accepting of human flaws through the centuries. But the more cellular, modular structure of the EO Church has made it more resistant to waves of heresy and apostasy through the millenia.
Salt Lake City has a magnificent EO church I toured via TH-cam as part of a young Christian seeker's channel's exploration of E. Orthodoxy.
I believe it was St. Philip who instructed St. Andrew to "Come and see!" Give your local EO Church a try during a Saturday evening Vespers service ir the Sunday morning Divine Liturgy. Probably best to attend one with a predominantly English language service. We adapt the Liturgy to each language, with Orthodox missionaries having translated the Bible into Innuit when spreading the faith to Alaska in the 19th Century.
GREAT VIDEO! I was born and raised in a Latino Pentecostal church and was kinda always made to feel by other believers that in the Christian Family, Pentecostals are analogous to the Crazy uncle that believes in Aliens. Believe me, I’ve heard it all. I appreciate how respectful, unbiased and informational this was. And I agree with the 4th wave you described, I see it myself, pentecostals trying to bridge Holy Ghost and Fire w/ the sound Barean mind. Spot on, Thanks again for the time it must have taken you to compile this🙏. God Bless.
because this is what you are
Crazy?
I say evil and not to be trusted at all.
Thank you, Professor. I appreciate your sincerity and desire to be balanced. This was the first I have heard about the "fourth wave," and from what little you said, I'd like to see myself as part of it. I'm involved with Presbyterian Reformed Ministries International (formerly Presbyterian Charismatic Communion). We don't mind identifying ourselves with the third wave, but we would lift up people like John Wimber far more than Benny Hinn or Kenneth Copeland. In fact I'm surprised that Wimber and the Signs and Wonders class at Fuller Seminary was overlooked in this very good presentation. That seems to me to be the genesis of the third wave, and a more faithful expression of it.
As academic as we Presby's tend to be, you wouldn't be surprised to learn that there is a good bit of what you identify as "fourth wave" going on at PRMI. We trace much of our teaching back to R.A. Torrey and finally and foundationally, of course, Scripture.
For a great overview of this perspective -- which I think you'll find to be exegetically solid and having theological integrity -- I'd recommend "Growing the Church in the Power of the Holy Spirit" (Zondervan) by Brad Long, Cindy Strickler and Paul Stokes.
Discovering this channel has been a blessing. God bless you for excellent work!
Great explanation of this movement and very respectful
8:30 thank you for explaining this! I’m apostolic Pentecostal convert and I think a big thing people forget is that services and people like this have been around ever since God released His spirit to us. Regardless, I think the point is that God can and will and does still work signs and miracles and gifts of the spirit!
The Holy Spirit is the progenitor of the tongues found in the Bible in the book of Acts.
My wife and I and our church are Holiness to the core! Love the old time way
Well put and summarized professor)
1 Corinthians 13:8
Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.
Amen and again.
Pass the collection plate around again.
Acts 17:17 In the last days I will pour out my spirit upon ALL people. Your sons and daughters will prophecy your old men will dream dreams.
People who quote this to imply that tongues have ceased, make me believe that knowledge has ceased.
I just became pentecostal 6 months ago..
I felt like i belong there, like it was my Family the 2day.
i actually do speak in tounges in my dreams for 12 yr now. Before i went to a pentecostal church
This pastor tells me yes you have a gift.
Now i know why i been doing what i been doing..
Now i do it often in my church now and Pray!!! like this to others, and me.
Amen!!!
I’ve had a dream where I was speaking in tongues. Visited a Pentecostal church yesterday and got baptized yesterday by a Pentecostal preacher! Life is changing!
I grew up in a very ritualistic religion and had no issues with it because I didn’t know the difference until I received the Baptism in the Holy Spirit with the necessary evidence of speaking in tongues in 1974. It was an incredible, joyful life transforming experience that till this day my passion and love for the Lord and His word still burns. Since that time I could not be joined to a denomination. Charismatic comes from the Greek word Charis which means the 9 gifts of the Holy Spirit. Charismatics believe in signs and wonders and that Christians are saved without the glorious Baptism in the Holy Spirit. However, I equate the Baptism in the Holy Spirit is to the Christian walk as gasoline is to a car. I can’t imagine being a Christian without it. I would encourage people to read Another wave of Revival about the powerful Azusa Street move of God. There is much misrepresentation and misunderstanding about the Charismatic movement so I would encourage people to seek Him and focus on the Lord and ask Him to guide you into a deeper relationship with The Spirit of Truth. I appreciate what you said at the very end of this seminar about the vast spread of this movement.
Hi
I think if I've read your text correctly??
That you received the Baptism of The Holy Spirit by recognition of the sudden ability of speaking in tongues?
If that is correct, then you have sadly been deceived by a false Spirit, that definitely didn't come by God's grace through faith in Christ.
Apologies if that isn't what you meant. But I won't apologise in telling you that you are a tare amongst Christ wheat field.
Their is no mention of a baptism of the Holy Spirit . Acts 2 is not. It . That is a made up lie .
@Doug Gauzy
Hi
Technically, that's true, well spotted.
Unfortunately for yourself you are still in error. If you carry on reading the book of Acts, Peter refers to the incident of chapter 2 in chapters 10-11.
He looks at what is happening in 10-11 and explains its the same experience as of chapter 2.
Hope this clears up your mistake?
Thanks for sharing background on these movements. I"m amazed by the extent to which the charismatic movement has permeated evangelical Christianity. I appreciate your insights.
Evangelicals means right winged Christian’s who are close to jews lol
Bless the Lord o my soul and all that is within me bless his holy name only God can give utterance in tongues it's not to be taught in school you can't practice it because it's a gift from God himself
Thank you for this video, very educational and actually kept my attention. You are a good presenter.
So many churches it’s so confusing. These are fascinating videos. I had no idea about any of this, as I didn’t grow up in a religious household. Very interesting.
And all of them dividing off from the original, non-denominational Catholic church.
What confuses me is the amount of pastors and TV evangelists who claim the Gift of healing and prophecy, yet they all teach opposing fundamental paths to Heaven. You have the oneness penticostal church who teach that Jesus Christ and God our father is the Holy spirit Today and not 3 distinct beings of the Divine God. Mormons also claim and perform convincing miracles and prophecies. in fact there are many totally opposing faiths that all claim prophecy, tongues and healing. Then you have the Prosperity Charismatics who base faith on giving them money to buy Jets, and big mansions. The one thing that saddens me is the lack of respect in the teachings of Jesus Christ as revealed in the New Testament. What I read in the book of Acts and the early church is very different from the megachurch form of moneygrabbing, praise leaders, and hand clapping that seems to typify the modern Charismatic Movement. Where is the humility, helping the needy and poor, and the need for forgiveness through the Blood of Christ, which is constantly preached in the Bible? We need to get back to worshipping God and not the mammon of many in the happy clappy feel good megachurches of today.
Worshipping God is a start, but how about actually trying to live out the teachings of Christ? When Christians start doing that, rather than acting like tyrannical assholes who wish to force the tenants of their faith on all of society by using state power to deny me marrying for love should I love the "wrong" person, or to deny rastafarians their right to smoke cannabis because they have some deluded nonsense belief that their faith makes them better, and wiser than everyone else, and many have a savior complex, believing they have the right to save the rest of us from themselves. They're tyrants in waiting, little stalinists wanting to control everyone... kind of like you'd expect the devil to do, but not followers of a truly divine being. I think Jesus Christ has the most sound claim to divinity, and I love most of his teachings. If Christians acted more like him, I'd probably have converted years ago, but they don't, so I don't want to sully my name by associating with such contemptible people who seek to control others, they are truly the lowest form of life, it doesn't matter whether they're Christian, Muslim, or Communists. Those who seek to control are beneath respect, and human dignity, they do not deserve either. Yet we should extend both to them, because that is what Christ would do.
@@Remembering-rq6si who are you again?
@@Remembering-rq6si because what he saying is almost feel closed to bible rather to jesus. Thats why I asking u give me the reason why its nonsense. Clear my thoughts of right and wrong this isn't about owing anyone.
@@sanubala3382 No, i am not Pentecostal. I would describe myself as a Christian and a member of the Church of God or Church of Christ (names used in the new testament that addressed members of Christ's body ... the church. I am not trying to be self righteous in my answer. However, I do not like or support names describing Christians as anything other than descriptions given in the early church or New testament. Pentecostal is a term that was invented at the turn of the 20th century, and further divides people into sectarian divisions. The plea of the early church of the first century was that all Christians be united in thought and mind (1 Corinthians 1:10; John 17:21) and to speak where the bible spoke and be silent where the bible is silent (2 John 1:6, John 14:15). If such a course was followed, we would not have the thousands of sectarian groups among Christianity that we see today.
@@danomeara3686 well, believing jesus and following jesus are the important fact. not religion. With or without joining church religion. We have to do what jesus told us through bible.
I was saved in a Pentecostal church 4 and a half years ago. I think it must be different here in Scotland. Im a Pentecostal,not a charismaniac! As long as Christ Crucified is preached and The Gospel is preached everything else is secondary.
I was a Pentecostal thank God now I'm an atheist cause religions are stupid
Mark Aponte So, you are thanking God because, you do not believe in him? That makes no sense!
@@daisynieves1644 sarcasm and hyperbole
@@daisynieves1644 what makes no sense is why you believe in the bible
Even cults teach Christ was crucified. RCC is one of them. Wake up. Most churches are false
I absolutely love the way you laid this all out. I've been Pente-Holiness my whole life. It's always seemed odd to me. Not bad, just odd. This helped answer some questions I had. Thanks for the vid!
I would say all due respect to everybody. You must be careful where you get your information and what you believe. I would encourage you and anyone else if you have any questions and want to know the entire truth READ your Bible !!!!!! God bless you and your search for truth.
Well there it is. But I knew he was going to eventually say. It's because of the ignorant uneducated poor individuals that would fall for anything . LOL who are the ignorant h e r e
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Very simple the wave as you described it. Are dispensations. Actually it's the degree of the move of the spirit of God. The mattress is spiritual. And with your plane understanding is an error. I say again the answer is spiritual' and can only be understood correctly spiritually. So there we are ' for one to spiritual 'must have the spirit of God !!!!
I will comment on your comment about being taught to speak in tongues true there's a movement today that teaches a person have to (mock) the tongues of God... and that's all it is Jabbar. For your understanding speaking in tongue it's not the person that's doing it it's a spirit of God !.... I could go further with the subject but it would only confuse you. you will( never understand spiritual things) unless you have received the (spirit of God.).
I was in the pentecostal/charismatic religion for years - thank YOU JESUS for delivering me from that heresy!
Pentecostalism isn’t heretical. What theological beliefs drove you away?
@@arsenalarsenalCOYG The Bible is what drove me away from those beliefs..
@@noahm44 which verses…because I guarantee you that whatever they are you’re reading out of context.
@@arsenalarsenalCOYG , it's not heretical? Yes, it is. It has the false version of the holy spirit. It's known as the kun·da·li·ni spirit.
You roll around on the floor bark like dogs, and you howl like wolf's.... 1 Corinthians 14:9-40
9 So if you speak in a way no one can understand, what's the point of opening your mouth?
Acts 2:4-28
It's they speak in languages not this baby babbling nonsense.that one hears in their Church.
WTF! But we are all one body in CHRIST. 🤣😂
One lord, one Faith, one baptism..One doctrine in the Scriptures. Not 3000
I agree that's the unity today one spiritual baptism in to christ.
Patrick Montgomery Holy smokes, you okay, dude???!
SUPERB
Baptism in Jesus name that is.
Ryan great teaching really good broadcasting voice . I love biblical history . Wish i would have started earlier.
11/15/2019 - Listening to all your Lectures. Wonderful. Thanks, God Bless You; in Jesus' Name.
In your list of Pentecostal Denominations, you mentioned the Church of God of Prophecy instead of the Church of God(Cleveland, Tennessee) which is the more common (7 million people) denomination from which the COGOP split. Not a bad thing, just kinda funny! Very good video, I enjoyed it!
Ryan Reeves historical assessment of Pentecostalism is replete with the most intelligent data I've ever heard concerning this movement.
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Tim McGee
WAKE UP!!!
I am a Charismatic Christian. Jesus is my Lord and Saviour. I worship in Spirit and in truth. JESUS CHRIST is the way, the truth and the life. He is the only way. No man comes to the father but by Jesus
It says no man comes to the Father but by the way, truth, and life. Know the way, what is true and live the life.
@@robwebster8472 Sorry for your loss (your mind). Hope you regain your sanity.
Pentecostal here who came to the movement through Catholic charismatics. Great video. Your balanced and fair analysis is greatly appreciated.
Well put together. Thank you, great effort.
Thank you so much for your respect for these movements:)
I respect the people because they are created in the image of God but their teaching and practice are corrupted hersey
Thank you so much for your series of lectures covering the gamut; I feel like I'm back in a college lecture classroom. It's a cleansing and informative affect on my now-mature mind that knowledge is power; my love of learning covers the gamut as well. Your history lectures, (a topic that didn't interest me much in my youth), are fascinating and tremendously helpful in coping with and understanding these upside-down "modern" times we live in. I look forward to your 2020 lectures. God bless you and yours, sir. As Ecclesiastes 1:9 states: "The thing that has been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun."
I have to say listening to your lectures exemplifies a debunk of what most students learn in HS school. A great precursor for any student going on to a higher education.
PENTECOSTAL FAITH, I WAS A PART OF FOR OVER MANY MANY YEARS.
I FOUND TO HAVE RECEIVED MOST OF MY LEARNING ON BIBLE TRUTHS . I THANK THE LORD JESUS THE CHRIST, FOR ALL I LEARNED OF THE LORD N BIBLE TRUTHS.
AND I DO NOT AGREE WTH THE LECTURES GIVEN IN THIS TALK... GOD FORGIVE THIS INFOMATION GIVEN IN THIS COMMENT.
GODS WORD IS TAIGHT AND AS FAR AS THE EMOTIONS GO, THATS AN INDIVIDUAL EXSPIRENCE.. YOU HAV YOUR OWN OPINIION, AND YOUR NOT CORRECT ON THE EXSPIRENCE THAT SOME HAV HAD.. DO NOT JUDGE GODS PEOPLES EXSPIENCED WTH GOD...GOD FORGIVE YOU.. AND WHY SHOULD ANY BELEIVE YOU, OPPOSE TO OTHER BELEIFS . ITS ALL UP TO THE PERSON WHO SEEKS THE LORD,
THE LORD BRINGS EACH ONE OF US WHO SEEKS THE LORD..
IN THE WAY GOD HIMSELF, SEES FIT TO..YES THERES A WAY TO WHICH GOD YES,WTH EACH PERSON..
THE WAY HE ,GOD SEES FIT..
YOU HAV NOT THE RGHT TO THINK ANYONE IS IN ERROR...
YOU ARE NOT GOD, AND WTH THE LORD HE WORKS WTH EACH PERSON,
DIFFERENT..
I DO PRAY GOD
SHOWS TO YOU, HIS TRUTHS .
YOUR JUDGING GODS PEOPLE, AND THEIR EXSPIRENCE.
I AM THANKFUL TO THE LORD,FOR GODS TRUTHS, INCLUDING, ALL THE LORD HAS TAUGHT ME. YOU HAV NOT THE RIGHT TO JUDGE ANYONE WHO COMES TO THE LORD. NO-ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO JUDGE ANYONE PERSONS WALK WTH THE LORD-GOD ..
Another great, balanced, informative and inspirational history summary
The only thing missing is how the movement became global and how it became a lay driven missionary movement in the global south
Do you admit both Pentecostal and charismatic movements are preaching the same gospel even the same anointing by the Holy ghost?
Bottom line: win souls, and live holy.
SO...WHAT WILL BE THE STANDAR TO LIVE HOLLY?
COULD IT BE THE 10 COMMANDMENTS Sr?
Gabriël G Smit Word for word? Proverbs.
The concept? Throughout the entire Bible practically.
Patrick Montgomery gentleman, please don’t argue about this. Live at peace with all......
Excellent MR RITSON.
@@gabrielsmit7733 proverbs he that winneth souls is wise...daniel they that turn many to righteousness shall shine..
Are you kidding? The "emotionalism" started a century ago?? Read your Bible, it starts in Acts.
The dead, non-spirit filled, false doctrines of man are what took away these gifts because instead of seeking Jesus, people decided to seek their theologians (doctrines of man)
You are so clever, you hit the point!
Actually according to sound scriptural doctrine....faith healing, tithing, and speaking in tongues are all twisted and false man made teachings. So theres that....
There are others that seek ecstatic emotional religious experiences...they are called Pagans. I came out of upc and I can tell you just listen to the sermons. Rarely a mention of the cross. It’s mostly about you needing to worship more crazy or you need to speak in tongues or live up to the holiness standards lest you lose your salvation. There’s so much wrong with this movement I don’t even know where to begin.
You on Spotify by any chance? Been searching but can’t find you. Can’t deal with the TH-cam adds! Love the show 🇮🇪
I have experienced this kind of worship a few times, it's a mix bag of emotions, especially during the speaking in tongues part, its awkwardness, confusion, some sort of euphoria and shivers running through the body. Idk man, speaking in tongues, I couldn't do it, I couldn't understand what anyone else is saying/ doing.. it's not for me..
Hi Dr. Reeves! I found your teachings on church history to be the most informative survey I have found on youtube. Great work! I was wondering if you could recommend an ancient near eastern history lecture series. Thanks!
A terrific and thoughtful attempt to clarify some very murky waters. Kudos!
Great video. Thank you for sharing your research.
Interesting cultural phenomenon. The gift of speaking in other languages was for the nascent Church in order to spread the gospel. It's hard to see the link between that and the incoherent, non-linguistic "speaking in tongues" that seems to characterize these modern movements. Do they speak in Chinese, for example, so that they can preach to the Chinese?
Lol read the Book of Acts and lern something .
No, it's more like gibberish. I grew up in a UPC church with people who spoke in tongues and it's never in a language anyone understands...
@@mayraz5625 because its the Holy Ghost that gives the utterance not you.
I can speak in tongue since I was 14 the gift first touched me when i was 11 and it developed from words to sentences and if I'm fully in the spirit then all different, and no its not a known human language it's a communication between the almighty, I have no idea what Im saying but its flows right through,thats why people who speak in tongues speak so fast someyimes because u don't need to think what your saying it just speaks
@@ross6387 how you spoken tongue at age 14 and did not have the Holy Ghost yet or the gift for that matter
nice unbiased study of the Pentecostal movement. I like how you show the beginning of some other denominations as well. speaking of tongues is in the Bible and it helps you realize that the word of God has power and not just any power(voodoo, witchcraft) but all power in Christ Jesus. I believe the speaking of tongues, receiving the holy ghost is the beginning of faith, it helps you learn God's word in the spirit and helps you walk in the spirit where you once walked in the flesh. Do I believe you need it to get into heaven, I don't know but it is a wonderful thing to help get you there.
read Acts in the bible about tongues What kind of legitimate tongues(languages) do you speak?
What he said & what the Bible teaches.was, The receiving of the Spirit is what Jesus gives you when you get saved. The Spirit seals you until the day of redemption. The speaking in tongues of today is not the same Biblical tongues spoken in the Bible. The real word is not tongues, it is langues, real down to earth languages that man can understand. The word tongues & unknown tongues was added in by the k.j.s people. So the tongues of today is not true Biblical languages but gibberish. The word Holy Ghost is another word that was added in by them. It's Holy Spirit. It was for the most part unbiased, but he did show that Charles Fox deviated from the scripture when he separated the work of Jesus & the Holy Spirit for salvation & said that speaking in tongues is baptism of the H.S. The Bible teaches that the work of the H.S. is to Baptise us into the church, the body of Christ. The biblical speaking in languages in the book of acts was a supernatural sign & what was supernatural was that they all heard people that did not know their languages speak in it anyways & they heard the wonders of God & they believed & Jesus started His church by saving them. Then they went out & preached the word of salvation & then there came a time when every langues knew the plan of salvation & they no longer had to speak in different languages. So the true Biblical speaking in tongues( languages) ceased. The last time we here about tongues is in the book of cor. & the reason for that is becaused they were misusing it & it is still being misused today. Today in the modern church, there has not been one example of someone speaking in a supernatural language that they do not know to a people that know that langues. Even if there was, it would have to be supernatural & that would really edified the Church the way true tongues should. Hope this helps somebody.
set your affections on Jesus Christ and call on him, something will happen is all I can tell you.
So is stoning people!
@@flamingooneleg77 rabbi tovia singer explains this with scripture in great detail. Speaking in tongues, faith healing, tithing.....all mistranslated and taken out of context on purpose to promote man made lies.
Hey man, great video! I’m writing a research paper on the history of spiritual gifts. Any way I can get some sources from you for this video I can look into?
Can I please get the name of that song at the end of your videos?? I’m a big fan of your show and I JUST LOVE that song!!!
Really appreciate you for doing this history lesson
You also forgot that Pentecostalism is the fastest growing movement in Church History and as mainline and Western Christianity appears to be dying off it is the Pentecostal/Charismatic churches who remain.
Sad ... Bible talks about it. People grow in knowledge but their faith will diminish.
Yer it called the great apostasy before our Lord Jesus Christ comes back hallelujah. Maranatha 🙏
Religious people all gathered in an open forum arguing and fighting.. Imagine that..
Funny isn't it?
Children are like that!
Right lol 😆
Excellent. Thank you! This is the first of your uploads I've viewed. I will definitely watch more and am subscribing now.
Worthwhile sub. Ryan Reeves does history and a wide array of subjects; it's like being in a college classroom.
Perfect example of why Christians should understand scripture so that we do not follow our favorite pastor/priest.
Grew up methodist, when I got older I was invited to volunteer with a ministry for addicts who wanted to change (Made some of my bestfriends, and met some really smart people.) Anyways it was my 2nd day, and we went to church. I enjoyed the service overall, but I was confused/impressed why the pastor kept talking in hebrew. Lol of course when I asked I learned what tongues were. When it comes to tongues I think they are sincere, and could be real. I kept praying, and nothing happened so I felt like like I was bad. Anyways Pentecostals can seem extreme, but in reality it's passion. In their eyes they aren't condemning you they just want to sincerely save you, and have a godly life. In the end it's your heart, and faith between you, and God that matter. All we know is 0.9% of it all.
We can have any of these gifts. They all are important but the greatest gift is love. Without love we can hang it all up....lord....help us love as you loved us....amen.
@Ecc12:13 The gifts were a sign to them which didn't believe /., Mainly showing the Jews that the Kingdom has been extended to the Gentiles. Even the Apostles no longer exhibited the gifts. Sure we still have healing and God answers prayer but the kind of power exhibited in the first years went away . Everyone would have believed and there would be no use of speaking about faith. The Gospel would not need to be spread, with words, People would see the healing and the signs and wonders. We would not need faith/. Greater is he that believes without seeing .. Matthew 28.
Practically everyone i knew during the Jesus freak movement on the seventies and the charismatic movement no longer follow Jesus . The modern belief in the supernatural gifts disappointed people and they based belief on what they saw rather than on faith . Faith cannot be taken away or lost because it is not based on this world. You must admit you have never seen the kind of healing Jesus Did in today's world. Healing of the soul is the important thing. Believe me i know it hurts.
@@mytwopennorth7216
1 Corinthians 13: 8. Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
Why would Pentecostals focus on the gift speaking in tounges, like it will save you. If the GENUINE gift of tounges still bestowed by the Holy Spirit I think He would give it to some people but not most. I dont think gift speaking in tounges will make you love everyone, I ask God mostly that love in me will grow towards God and my neighbor. I never spoke in tounges and dont want to, I'd rather have a gift of love grow in me rather than speak in millions of tounges of men or angels.
Yes that scripture is correct it gave all the gifts n said they would ceast but Love will never ceast n is the greatest that is the moral of the text. Not gifts everyone looks over that Its called context. If we read tge buble in context it clears up the " tongues" issue. If God does everthing i. decency n order. Whats the exact order they recieved tongues. What exactly the happened. They were all in one place waiting, they heard a mighty rushing wind, it filled the room, tongues of fire on they head, they began to speak in "tongues" languages from every nation not jibberish. Then they had power to got witness around the world!!!!! Making disciples n baptizing people. No angelic personal prayer language smh bible doesnt even teach that because if it did it would say this is for prayer. How shall we pray? Our Father who art in heaven.....
Excellent job !
Would be interesting to see how the welsh revival of 1904 impacted the formation of the Pentecostal moment.
Are you saying this revival was bad?
No, not at all. it’s just that the 1904 revival in Wales is often credited as inspiring the Azusa Revival. I’m coming at this as a student of history, not a judge of the hearts of revivals.
Cecil Robeck covers this well...in his book on Azusa Street Mission and Revival.
It doesn’t matter….what matters is that there are 6 billion lost souls on earth! Let’s unite to bring them to Jesus
Reeves advises us to not judge the extremes of our Pentecostal "brothers".
Reeves does not at all hesitate to judge even the smallest aspects of dissent such as Gnosticism which negates any real need for a church or church structure, or a collection plate.
Reeves also directly aligns with ancient orthodox writings that lead to such monstrosities as the Catholics. But, business is business ain't it Dr. Apologetic Reeves?
Thank you for the video. 😍
Antarctica's charismatic growth is pretty impressive given the conditions. @2:10
+Mike Gourley // Yes that part of the map made me chuckle. No idea how they determined that, but what growth! :)
Mike Gourley 400 happy clappys in the Antarctic wow, the scientific community getting unscientific.
It's been getting unscientific for a long time. The charismaticism in Antarctica is an interesting statistic though, to be sure.
Where the baptised... some melted snow
I literally laughed out loud at this comment 😏 great to start to my day
Great video tho!
Ryan - You completely missed the latter rain movement in the forties and fifties - That was the 2nd wave after the unisce old tens and twenties had died off
Very informative...thank you!
For the past year I have had no contact with a church, whether it be Evangelical or charismatic. After over 50 years of warming metal folding chairs and pews, helping to lead true worship, and watching the choices being made by today's leadership that are so very unscriptural, especially the nar and impartation movements, I realized how far off the path the vast majority of the church is being misled and I decided to remove myself from any further indoctrination that had been taking place in my life for far too many wasted years. I began again to long for purity, simplicity and a very word-centered community. Instead where I found myself was among an emotion driven, understudied, and wordless mass of followers. Where to go from here is pretty much up to the Lord for him to work in me both to Will and to do of his good pleasure and to let Him finish the work that he's begun in me, for it is not by might or by power but by my Spirit saith the Lord. It will take His intervention to turn things around by cleaning up the present mess.
Acts the second chapter was and is the first Pentecostal Church
You mean where each man heard in their own 'known' language?
Or where people kick and scream and roll on the floor and recite gibberish?
@@brianpe6704 Exactly 😏
And im descendant of king David?! Wowww
@@unuminregnodei Why do you have that Satanic 👹 symbol with the owl for your profile❓