@@johndutkiewicz9401I’ve heard it pronounced 3 different ways . Brainsmasher , Radio Free Insomouth and Deep Cuts have all pronounced it completely differently.
One of the most consistent genres quality wise, lots of great bands in this video. You got me into wormphlegm ages ago and that albums been on rotation ever since
Worm do indeed call themselves Floridian Funeral Doom but that doesn't mean it's objectively funeral doom, and I think it's not. It's atmospheric death/doom. Funeral doom is much more about ambience than Worm, which I think is a great band.
@@MartyrForNonenot wrong , just comes to mind because in interviews Phantomslaughter of worm often cites evoken, unholy, thergothen and disembowelment as major influences. The clean guitar passages with the heavy chugs underneath found all over gloomlord and foreverglade are definitely evoken worship. He specifically worked with the same guy who produced evoken as well to try and emulate that classic sound
My favorite niche piece of info is that after Thergothon ended, Jori, their drummer, went on to have a massively successful career in music. Most notably, he has been the producer and songwriter for one of Finland's biggest pop groups, PMMP. Beyond that, he has run his own studio and produced many other acclaimed Finnish (mostly pop) artists over the years. Thank you for the great video as always!
Thanks for making this video. Mirror Reaper has been my favorite song regardless of genre since it came out. I won't argue that it's perfect, but for me nothing even comes remotely close. Ive heard a couple albums in this vein since, but it's nice to have a set of albums to sit down with. Always walk away from these types of videos from you with something new to listen to.
I love funeral doom. The slow, droning riffs and melancholic atmosphere makes it one of the most relaxing styles of extreme metal. Some of my favorite funeral doom bands are Ahab, Evoken, Esoteric, Skepticism, Funeral, Mournful Congregation, Loss, Pantheist, and Thergothon.
youre correct and funny enough I came across that a few days before making this video. I just didn't mention it cause I didn't know what to say about it other than its funeral doom from Russia in 1991
What a coincidence I was listening to Evoken earlier today! Listening to funeral doom metal has a really surreal or ethereal feeling to me. It's like the musical equivalent of slow cinema. It makes me feel like time stops.
I am really delighted to finally see a comprehensive content on funeral doom.. Channels like yours and Dante's are my sole reason to check YT out these days. Thank you for your efforts dear Wyatt.🌹
I love how you know how to use words perfectly, bands as examples that regardless of if they're super popular or not I want to listen to them, and how in depth you get
One thing I feel like it's worth mentioning about Funeral's Tragedies is that two of the members who played on it, Einar Andre Fredriksen and Christian Loos, both committed suicide some years later (2003 and 2006, respectively). I think knowing this fact just adds a whole other level of misery to the already depressing album.
Mournful Congregation is in my top 3 of funeral doom. I think they’re underrated. Their first album Tears From a Grieving Heart is literally gorgeous. I used to read to it back when I was in community college and I revisited it last year just driving around while doing deliveries at night with it on in the background lol.
The return of the Black Death by Antestor mixes black metal and doom. It’s an atmospheric masterpiece. I always wondered if any other bands mixed the two. I’m exited to check out the bands you mentioned that do this. Thanks for the suggestions
In August of last year I watched your “ doom metal iceberg “ video while I was still in entry level to the genre. Fast forward till now & all the experience of those doom albums in your video & so much more, I really am grateful for that man, love the vid !
You really crushed this one Wyatt nice job for real thank you for this class ha I’ve JUST been discovering funeral doom you’re a huge help & I know you know what you’re talkin about from previous videos. I hope you keep this up cuz you’re awesome at it
Thank you for the video. Well said and explained. I have to say I have been a Funeral Doom fan for years now, since maybe late 90s early 2000s. Colosseum is my favorite and their 3 albums are just pure perfection although I came to notice that even in FD world, not many consider them as number 1 but I have never experienced so far till date such as Colosseum. On another note, I watched Ahab not long ago in Stuttgart and they were brilliant, I enjoyed every second of it and will definitely try to catch them later when possible. Cheers to all Funeral Doom fans.
Colosseum and their Chapter 1, Delirium is and will ALWAYS be my favorite funeral doom album. It just hits so hard, and I don’t think I’ll ever stop listening to it regularly
Hejjo Wyatt You should definitely do a video about the Blazebirth Hall. Not just because of their high influence in the mid 90s on black metal but also because of the figures behind it. Would be a amazing topic to cover
Great video once again,I am also one of those people who found out about funeral doom through Bell Witch.I highly encourage everyone who likes Bell Witch (or funeral doom in general) to check out Stygian Bough,it's a project featuring Bell Witch members that incorporates neofolk/folk along with funeral doom.Their self titled album is my personal favourite funeral doom project of any kind,it's both depressing and beautiful at the same time.
Given Funeral Doom’s occasional influence from Drone music, I think a band you should cover next is Natural Snow Buildings. French band dating back to 1998 and have played around with everything from Indie Rock, Post Rock, Ambient, Industrial, Harsh Noise, Folk, Neofolk, and Drone with tribal percussion. They’re quite obscure and their albums have been released in very limited quantities, so good luck nabbing a physical NSB record.
He doesn't even know what post rock is. The most he's heard is Explosions in the Sky, I doubt he'd be able to make a decent video about NSB without butchering it.
@@RoyThomas-c7h I was planning on making a post rock video way down the road funny enough. but ill do it earlier then I planned just to piss you off cause its only both sad and entertaining seeing your comments pop up of nothing but straight rage over this video . ill be sure to dedicate that video "The History of Post Rock" to you .
@@wyattxhim you struggled to even define what post rock was in one of your iceberg videos. I'm not too worried, you'll go on Wikipedia, change a few words and then make a low effort video presenting it like you're still in middle school making a class presentation. I care about funeral doom way more cause I'm actually involved in the scene. You're just a lazy hack who's seen a few bands live and think you suddenly know everything there is to know. Not direct quotes from bands, no direct citations from other music publications, not even a citation list. You're as lazy as they come.
@@RoyThomas-c7hI never talked about post rock for an iceberg video so now you’re just making stuff up. You’re in the funeral doom scene? Wow I wished I cared. It’s genuinely pathetic how triggered you are by this video because you’re spamming nearly a dozen comments saying the exact same thing. Get over yourself dude it’s a TH-cam video it’s staying up , think in your 2 cent brain where my sources came from and I’ll continue pumping out videos for whinny metal fans like you to cry over and help build my channel further.
Excellent video dude!! extremely well researched and offered a lot more insight than anything ive come across yet on websites for funeral doom :D im noticing in the comments some diphead named roy Thomas is having a mental breakdown over pointless arguments . guess the saying goes "metal heads are the best at being the worst".
I'm an old guy. But I don't have mental problems. I'm deeply involved with scene here in the UK, so I went into this video with an open mind, but this guy is just a dumb kid, rewording Wikipedia entries and presenting it like he's giving a class presentation. If that impresses you, then I'm sorry to say you're a leech and have no real respect for funeral doom. You guys may come to the concerts but you don't respect us. Wyatt is trend chasing, that's all he's ever done.
Esoteric is untouchable in the doom metal scene, the maniacal vale and the pernicious enigma are the best of the best in doom metal, and some of the better albums in all of music in general. Absolutely mind blowingly heavy/dark and unique. “Circle” is the pinnacle of metal, they shame the entire doom metal sub genre with the creative walls of sound they produce. The pernicious enigma is the most hauntingly insane record ever made in the most unique way possible. They’re often overlooked by people because they aren’t your basic gothic/black/death doom band which is copy and pasted all over the doom metal genre. But they are by far the best
I got into funeral doom through My Dying Bride. I was looking for melancholic motifs in metal genres and it was like deciphering esoteric texts. It was an epic and exciting adventure in the 90s without the internet. First I was looking for bands from the UK, as MDB were from there too. I found Esoteric and their album Epistemological Despondency. Back then, we called the funeral doom genre simply death/doom, but without the gothic elements that were present in the trio from Peaceville. So I started looking for bands similar to Esoteric and found Skepticism, Evoken, Mournful Congregation and Mordor from Switzerland, which was unique in that it combined most of my favorite genres: dark ambient, black metal, industrial and death/doom. Together with Mordor, I discovered the Polish band Ysigim and their tape Ain Soph Or. Their music sounded very "shamanic", as if they were the predecessors of The Ruins of Beverast. Gems like Funeral and their album Tragedies somehow eluded me at the time, but then I discovered them after 2000, when the next wave of funeral doom started (Ahab, My Shameful, Catacombs, Bell Witch).
I remember we used to call these bands death metal, death/doom and gothic metal back in 90s. Esoteric was the same kind of depressive death metal as My Dying Bride, except they were more industrial rather than goth influenced than MDB.
Im even surprise you didn’t include Вой Круги Вечности, as they are mostly consider as the first Ussr funeral doom/black metal band to actually put up something even around then already merging soviet union scene with bands such as: Кремтор, преисподняя, черная вдова, Люцифер from Belarus,and русская зима). I’ve even seen few people consider this to just be funeral doom death metal but on my opinion after discovering this around 12 months ago personally this album mostly leans more of the pre second to first wave black approach something straight from Bellzlleb or even early Salem. It’s also to worthy to note that Круги Вечности is also the second black essentiel release from russia that was actually before where русская зима would later be commonly referred as the first black metal band to release on the scene. Though the album has the lofi sound it’s still worth checking out for those that are not only here for funeral doom but early 90’s black metal.
Yes!! I was here to post a very similar comment! They are absolutely essential and there is another demo that exists, it was released in 1989 and it was called Дети Чумы (Children of Plague) and I can't find it anywhere, but I will still search! What an absolutely sick sound, I was so happy to get the demo on CD!
This band is a cool historical find, but they were fairly unknown until their album was uploaded to TH-cam in the last 10 years. A band that no one heard didn't do much to influence the wider scene.
I think another worth mentioning predecessor for funeral doom is Forest of Equilibrium by Cathedral: really bizarre kind of "extreme traditional doom" (I'd define it this way) that sometimes goes into very sorrowful territories that are eerily similar to what funeral doom will be. Listen to "Reaching Happiness, Touching Pain", get to the end of the song and tell me if that organ isn't a bit Thergothon-esque.
Further bands to check out: Worship (surprised they weren’t mentioned) Funeral Mourning Mistress of the Dead Skumring Consummatem Est Ea Aphonic Thredony Remembrance Ysigim Raven (pre-Shape of Despair) Profetus Subterranean Dooms Vain Ættir Fallen Exhumation Moss Un Atramentus Frowning Pantheist Oromet Also, the new album from Isenordal is incredible funeral doom and one of my top albums of the year Edit: oh yeah! Rippikoulu was mentioned as a precursor to funedoom with their style of death doom, but their comeback EP is also incredibly underrated funeral doom metal itself!
Florida's Paineater demo from 1989 may be contender for earliest. "Funeral doom" didn't really exist at the time, so they most likely were attempting to dial up what Autopsy were hinting at. Impossible to gauge, as many were dabbling in those snail paces. Cathedral's In Memorium demo (1990) is also a crucial addition.
Funeral doom is a hard genre to love, but I definitely have a strong attachment to it. My trajectory was kind of odd, I ended up getting into Swallow the Sun and Trees of Eternity as a teen. I loved their melodies so much that I started browsing Spotify for similar stuff, and ended up finding Mournful Congregation (for some reason, StS and ToE recommended more funeral doom than regular death/doom, but I'm not complaining). I vividly remember staying up til 2-3 am on a bunch of summer nights just getting lost in MC's massive guitar harmonies. Not long after, I found Frowning, Shape of Despair, and Bell Witch, then a bit later came Ahab and Evoken. I NEED to listen to Esoteric more, but their albums are so long and dense that I often feel like I can't give them the time they deserve. Anyway, this genre holds a really special place for me, thanks for covering it!
Call Of The Wretched Sea blew me away when I first heard it. I can't listen to music that sad anymore which kinda sucks because I loved the musicianship so much.
I'm surprised I never see anyone mention Frowning. Maybe they aren't that popular in the genre or something, but their debut album is what first got me into the genre, and they always seem to be the sound I imagine when thinking of Funeral Doom.
Frowning is so good, seriously impressive for a solo project, too. The first 3 tracks on Death Requiem are (in my opinion) some of the best funeral doom I've ever heard, especially "Apocalyptic Essential Misery"
Ras Algethi is definitely an early funeral band, yet they continued as CANAAN which isn't much different, just more darkwave type of old school gothic metal (and funeral doom essentially is an old school underground gothic metal)
3:18 I thought you were going to name the Netherlands. There were so many Death/Doom bands during the early 90s like Asphyx, Mystic Charm, Beyond Belief, Sempiternal Deathreign, Mourning and Phlebotomized.
My band got to open for Evoken a few years ago in Stockholm. It was massive. Small bar, dark and cramped. Also, Evoken where fucking sweethearts! Super nice guys.
One Album, I see as extremely foundational in the development of Funeral Doom, and somehow rarely mantioned is: Cathedrals Debut Forest of Equilibrium. I also see, that Cathedral nowadays is seen very much through the lense of their later works, so they are considered to be very much more connected to the Stoner side of Doom, but listening to this album alone - it has nothing of Stoner in it. It is pure unadulterated misery in its most heartwrenching form, so having more to do with funeral than with stoner. And at the time, 1992, Forest of Equilibrium was much more extreme than the other Death Doom bands you could find like Paradise Lost or My Dying Bride, only Winter could match it. But compared to Winter Cathedral gave this developing style of music much more of a platform, so I think Forest of Equilibrium is definitely worth a mention.
Esoteric is one of my favourite groups across all genres. The Maniacal Vale being their Masterpiece (in my opinion) so far. I’ve even made a playlist to listen to as ambience when going to sleep.
There's kinda like 2 Branches of Funeral Doom The Dark Ambient One Wormphlegm Fuoco Fatuo Oblivion Nortt Aarsland The Melancholic One Clouds Helllight Profetus Frowning Evoken And there's the one who blends both style
Italian author Stefano Cavanna wrote an entire book all about funeral doom if you are interested: it's called "Il suono del dolore" ("The sound of pain"), but I'm not sure if they've translated it in English...
Somewhat of a "fun" fact is that in all of Senthil's work there are sections where they choked each other out with chains and their last cassette EP came with a razor blade and the j-card is smeared in blood, the first 15 came with a drawing by one of the guitarist who took their own life around the time they either started or halfway through their project (no info exist on the members except the names they went by in the project)
@dodenmanniskan8846 the most I can find is that Plague is a man from Texas as all the bands he's been are from Texas. And on Metal Archives exist a single photo of him passed out on the floor in the corner of a house. Their final EP cassette also contains photos of the three band members but all of their faces are covered by their hair
Huh! What a coincidence. I suggested something regarding the unfortunate lore of the band 'Funeral' and we get a Funeral Doom history video. I fuck with it!
My first run in with funeral doom was shape of despair, not really knowing what it was I still somewhat liked it but didn't really pursue more of it. Then I found ahab and boy did those guys make me dive into the genre. Now I'd say FD is one of my favorite metal genres. Also not mentioning atremuntus in this video is criminal.
Greg Chandler of Esoteric produced that Atremuntus album, many underground metal acts work with Esoteric. Also it's pretty weird to mention Swallow the Sun but not Shape of Despair, you know an actual funeral doom metal band. So much stuff left out. It's poorly researched.
@@haybarn8487 there are virtually no sources in the video itself and I mention Esoteric because Greg Chandler produces underground metal albums for a living and you can hear his influence on almost everything he produces. Acting like Esoteric aren't the godfathers of this genre (alongside Skepticism) is absurd but Wyatt's puny brain likes entry level bands like Ahab and Bell Witch. Normie Pitchfork freak.
Doom is such a good live genre. I Boris perform Amplifier Worship all the way.. and it was absolutely body crushing. They were louder than Motörhead, Down and Sleep ffs!! My $50 earplugs did *not* help
I always admire your knowledge of various metal subgenres and others. Thanks, now I can explore the subgenre even more and down to it's roots! Funeral Doom Metal really opened a new dimension for how I've always perceived the metal world, it started with Mirror Reaper and I could just tell it's definitely more of an experience rather than entertainment. From there I started exploring the depths of this subgenre where I've come across records such as Atramentus - Stygian, Drown Subaqueous, Skepticism - Stormcrowfleet. Man the concepts that come from Funeral Doom are so striking, many have left an impact on me.
If you want blackened funeral doom like Mordor I suggest the EP Looting The Tomb Of The Aramathean… by Black Mass Of Absu, the 3rd song Trudging To Calvary sounds like a slam/brutal death metal song played at half speed while someone spams haunted house sound effects over it
Mirror Reaper is in fact one 83min long track, cut in two for CDs reasons. Same goes for The Clandestine Gate, same length, same amount of tracks, which is, IIRC, the first part of a trilogy.
I prefer labelling these bands simply as FUNERAL METAL, rather than funeral doom, bacause I think is a fairly separate and distinctive genre from classic doom metal (i.e. Trouble, Black Sabbath, Pantagram, Candlemass, Count Raven, Solstice etc). It's origins are also way more rooted in old school underground gothic metal (think Monumentum or first The 3rd And The Mortal LP) and gothic rock/goth ethereal influenced death metal, rather than doom metal. If you pay close attention to all these early bands like Thergothon, Unholy, Skepticism, Funeral, My Dying Bride, Anathema, Paradise Lost, Disembowelment, Evoken etc... you may easily notice how all of them started out as depressive death metal bands with big 80s darkwave influence. Death metallers who were listening to a lot of stuff like Dead Can Dance, SWANS, The Sisters Of Mercy, Cocteau Twins, The Cure, Fields Of The Nephilim etc. Thergothon even continued in a fully goth ethereal vein under the name This Empty Flow. Skepticism played death metal only on their first 7", but it got so toned down and almost non-recognizable on their debut album already, which took more direction of a 4AD/Projekt type of bands. The black/death metal crossover with darkwave is kinda crucial for development of the funeral metal and that scene. It is basically the evolution of old school underground goth metal of the early 90s which avoided comercialisation but kept the artistic fundamentals of both extreme metal and darkwave and brought it to the next level. Also, the monotonous arrangements and depressive, melancholic fundamentals of funeral bands could be rather traced back to 1980 and The Cure's "Seventeen Seconds" LP than Black Sabbath.
I feel like its also worth mentioning the amount of non-metal influences on funeral doom which makes it just that much more distinct from death doom. Thergothon in particular was very heavily inspired by dark ambient and goth rock which contributes to the use of ambient synths. The vocalist for thergothon has a dark ambient project called Kadotus 609. He also stated in an interview that a lot of their inspiration came from goth rock bands. Also I have seen so many people think that funeral doom is just doom metal with organ synths in the style of funeral music and whoever started this is very annoying. Good to see an actually informed take on this genre.
True, because darkwave and goth influence is crucial in development of these funeral bands, way more than doom metal like Saint Vitus. Thergothon also continued as a fully darkwave band back in 90s, under the name THIS EMPTY FLOW.
If only Wyatt could talk about this, instead he just rewords things from Wikipedia. He is far from informed. If he was, you wouldn't have needed to make this comment.
@@RoyThomas-c7h you didn't pay attention at all!! he mentioned gothic influences with the UK death/doom scene along with ambient influences bringing up Disembowelment .
@@haybarn8487 No he really doesn't mention them. He says "gothic aesthetics" and refers to the "ambience" of disembowelments music. Neither of these refer to the synth-heavy style of dark ambient and goth rock/dark wave. Ambient aspects of music is not the same as the dark ambient music genre and gothic aesthetics are not the same as goth music. Also these influences are so important they deserve more than just a 3 second mention. They are just as important to the development of the music as death doom is. Again, literally read interviews with these bands and they will state how big darkwave in their influences.
@@TheNoobaDooba I disagree with you there . he mentions riffs are used more as layers of ambience , he mentions the usage of keys are important when talking about Skepticism . I do agree its briefly mentioned and could be more fleshed out but both of your are talking as if its not at all mentioned and thats just unfair.
Haven't watch the full video for now, but i hope you make a separated video for the whole small torture doom scene someday (since you put senthil in the thumbnail)
I adore funeral doom, its own of my favorite genres ever, with Mournful Congregation being a particular obsession of mine. I feel that band has shown this insane progression in songwriting capabilities, where it feels like every album they release just improves upon the last in nearly every way, which is exemplified in their newest track, The Paling Crest. I wish more funeral doom bands focused on songwriting like they did, since many a new band are just riffless and boring most of the time, where it feels like the same passage on repeat for 20 minutes.
Always sad not seeing Вой mentioned when talking about early funeral doom. They go head-to-head with Thergothon, having released a demo in '89 and a full length in '91, and they were DEFINITELY a funeral doom band
@@shyimon you’re actually one of the many people who have commented about them . I will admit I should of included them (as I discovered them briefly before making the video) but I didn’t mainly because I really didn’t know what to say other then it’s funeral doom from Russia that came out in 91.
I always associated funeral doom with Shape of Despair's Angels of Distress... No one captured the crushing feeling that album evokes to me... until I found Lethargy of Death with Necrology which is kinda similar with a not that polished sound. Similar in terms of feelings evoked. Now, on your topic, there's a band called Ras Algethi from Italy which has only one album called Oneiricon released on '95 if I remember correct, which is in the same period of time with Funeral's Tragedies. While being in parts very funeral doom, is still very melodic. There's another italian band which I wanna say started in the same period very melodic too, and also funeral-ish, but I can't find it... I know they changed their style to some darkwave, which wasn't bad either, and no, it's not Monumentum. I kinda remember something... fabia lacrimavole, something... but I'm not finding it. There's also a band from Switzerland, called Excruciation, which started as a thrash band around '85-'86 than they started incorporating more and more elements of doom... I wanna say that at some point they were regarded as a doom/thrash band... but I might be wrong. The album from '07 is very doomy pretty heavy and definitely has some funeral doom moments. There's also this one-man-band from early '00, Nightrealm with a demo called Bleakness, which for a 16 y.o. guy, it's... very, very impressive and a very emotional trip. It's a lot of atmosphere but... it's quite oppressive.
Slowest, most melancholic click of my life
This guy… This guy knows his stuff.
Constantly impressed by his videos.
except how to say thergothon apparently (among others)
@@johndutkiewicz9401I’ve heard it pronounced 3 different ways .
Brainsmasher , Radio Free Insomouth and Deep Cuts have all pronounced it completely differently.
@@wyattxhim i've never heard. will be sure to check those out.
also did not expect you to reply to me holy shit
@@johndutkiewicz9401random pseudo-hater?
He is the best metal music related TH-cam channel
One of the most consistent genres quality wise, lots of great bands in this video. You got me into wormphlegm ages ago and that albums been on rotation ever since
Fastest click of my life
Im with you bro
Real
not gloomy enough. should have been the slowest.
Shoutouts to Worm for being an awesome current funeral doom style of band without being a snoozefest ☝🏻☝🏻 foreverglade is a modern classic
Worm is dope! I hate that I slept on them when gloomlord was released and didn’t give them a chance until blUENOTHING came out.
Worm do indeed call themselves Floridian Funeral Doom but that doesn't mean it's objectively funeral doom, and I think it's not. It's atmospheric death/doom. Funeral doom is much more about ambience than Worm, which I think is a great band.
@@MartyrForNonenot wrong , just comes to mind because in interviews Phantomslaughter of worm often cites evoken, unholy, thergothen and disembowelment as major influences. The clean guitar passages with the heavy chugs underneath found all over gloomlord and foreverglade are definitely evoken worship. He specifically worked with the same guy who produced evoken as well to try and emulate that classic sound
Worm’s pretty good, saw them play on the Decibel Tour earlier this year. Great performance 🗡️
My favorite niche piece of info is that after Thergothon ended, Jori, their drummer, went on to have a massively successful career in music. Most notably, he has been the producer and songwriter for one of Finland's biggest pop groups, PMMP. Beyond that, he has run his own studio and produced many other acclaimed Finnish (mostly pop) artists over the years. Thank you for the great video as always!
Was he also in This Empty Flow? Their album Magenta Skycode is amazing.
Thanks for making this video. Mirror Reaper has been my favorite song regardless of genre since it came out. I won't argue that it's perfect, but for me nothing even comes remotely close. Ive heard a couple albums in this vein since, but it's nice to have a set of albums to sit down with. Always walk away from these types of videos from you with something new to listen to.
I love funeral doom. The slow, droning riffs and melancholic atmosphere makes it one of the most relaxing styles of extreme metal. Some of my favorite funeral doom bands are Ahab, Evoken, Esoteric, Skepticism, Funeral, Mournful Congregation, Loss, Pantheist, and Thergothon.
Esoteric is sooo good
There was a release of "Кругами вечности" (In circles of eternity) by Вой (Howling) from Russia back in 1991
youre correct and funny enough I came across that a few days before making this video. I just didn't mention it cause I didn't know what to say about it other than its funeral doom from Russia in 1991
Wyatt covering my favourite metal subgenre, what a pleasant surprise
how I felt about the dungeon synth video
yeah and it's garbage
@@RoyThomas-c7h the genre or the video?
@@koinaisk the video. hes just copying off wikipedia and rewording some things. its the laziest thing imaginable and you guys love it. pathetic.
Now if he does sludge too, it would be amazing
Watching your videos in the evening makes me feel really cozy. Thank You
Thank you for this video. I was so happy when you finally got to the band Funeral and Ahab.
My favorite bands.🇧🇻❤
What a coincidence I was listening to Evoken earlier today! Listening to funeral doom metal has a really surreal or ethereal feeling to me. It's like the musical equivalent of slow cinema. It makes me feel like time stops.
Me too. Weird. I had quietus on yesterday. It was really foggy silent hillish outside. Fit perfectly.
I am really delighted to finally see a comprehensive content on funeral doom.. Channels like yours and Dante's are my sole reason to check YT out these days. Thank you for your efforts dear Wyatt.🌹
I love how you know how to use words perfectly, bands as examples that regardless of if they're super popular or not I want to listen to them, and how in depth you get
Funeral Doom is my all-time favourite sub-genre. Thanks for covering it!
Putting Bell Witch on the thumbnail was very happy to see. My favorite band and they are so nice in person too!
Autechre on the shelf 🔥
One thing I feel like it's worth mentioning about Funeral's Tragedies is that two of the members who played on it, Einar Andre Fredriksen and Christian Loos, both committed suicide some years later (2003 and 2006, respectively). I think knowing this fact just adds a whole other level of misery to the already depressing album.
Mournful Congregation is in my top 3 of funeral doom. I think they’re underrated. Their first album Tears From a Grieving Heart is literally gorgeous. I used to read to it back when I was in community college and I revisited it last year just driving around while doing deliveries at night with it on in the background lol.
Such a great band. Such beautiful albums especially like you said with the early stuff.
Mourning Beloveth (90’s,Ireland) and The Funeral Orchestra (2000’s,Sweden)
Great video as always.Keep them coming please.
The Funeral Orchestra is evil, slow black metal in the vein of old Samael, Root and Xantotol
The return of the Black Death by Antestor mixes black metal and doom. It’s an atmospheric masterpiece.
I always wondered if any other bands mixed the two. I’m exited to check out the bands you mentioned that do this. Thanks for the suggestions
hell yeah just as i am pulling an all nighter my fav youtuber uploaded
In August of last year I watched your “ doom metal iceberg “ video while I was still in entry level to the genre. Fast forward till now & all the experience of those doom albums in your video & so much more, I really am grateful for that man, love the vid !
I’ve got a long late night drive tonight home for Thanksgiving and a whole bunch of new albums que’d. This channel is killer🤘🏻
You really crushed this one Wyatt nice job for real thank you for this class ha I’ve JUST been discovering funeral doom you’re a huge help & I know you know what you’re talkin about from previous videos. I hope you keep this up cuz you’re awesome at it
Thank you for the video. Well said and explained. I have to say I have been a Funeral Doom fan for years now, since maybe late 90s early 2000s. Colosseum is my favorite and their 3 albums are just pure perfection although I came to notice that even in FD world, not many consider them as number 1 but I have never experienced so far till date such as Colosseum. On another note, I watched Ahab not long ago in Stuttgart and they were brilliant, I enjoyed every second of it and will definitely try to catch them later when possible. Cheers to all Funeral Doom fans.
Colosseum and their Chapter 1, Delirium is and will ALWAYS be my favorite funeral doom album. It just hits so hard, and I don’t think I’ll ever stop listening to it regularly
Hejjo Wyatt
You should definitely do a video about the Blazebirth Hall.
Not just because of their high influence in the mid 90s on black metal but also because of the figures behind it. Would be a amazing topic to cover
Please keep making these history of genre videos. This is really good.
Great video once again,I am also one of those people who found out about funeral doom through Bell Witch.I highly encourage everyone who likes Bell Witch (or funeral doom in general) to check out Stygian Bough,it's a project featuring Bell Witch members that incorporates neofolk/folk along with funeral doom.Their self titled album is my personal favourite funeral doom project of any kind,it's both depressing and beautiful at the same time.
Great vid as always! Bell Witch, Atramentus, Ahab, and Worm are some of my favorite funeral doom metal bands currently
Given Funeral Doom’s occasional influence from Drone music, I think a band you should cover next is Natural Snow Buildings. French band dating back to 1998 and have played around with everything from Indie Rock, Post Rock, Ambient, Industrial, Harsh Noise, Folk, Neofolk, and Drone with tribal percussion. They’re quite obscure and their albums have been released in very limited quantities, so good luck nabbing a physical NSB record.
He doesn't even know what post rock is. The most he's heard is Explosions in the Sky, I doubt he'd be able to make a decent video about NSB without butchering it.
@@RoyThomas-c7h I was planning on making a post rock video way down the road funny enough. but ill do it earlier then I planned just to piss you off cause its only both sad and entertaining seeing your comments pop up of nothing but straight rage over this video . ill be sure to dedicate that video "The History of Post Rock" to you .
@@wyattxhim Damn lol. A post rock video would be nice, as would an NSB video.
@@wyattxhim you struggled to even define what post rock was in one of your iceberg videos. I'm not too worried, you'll go on Wikipedia, change a few words and then make a low effort video presenting it like you're still in middle school making a class presentation. I care about funeral doom way more cause I'm actually involved in the scene. You're just a lazy hack who's seen a few bands live and think you suddenly know everything there is to know. Not direct quotes from bands, no direct citations from other music publications, not even a citation list. You're as lazy as they come.
@@RoyThomas-c7hI never talked about post rock for an iceberg video so now you’re just making stuff up.
You’re in the funeral doom scene? Wow I wished I cared.
It’s genuinely pathetic how triggered you are by this video because you’re spamming nearly a dozen comments saying the exact same thing. Get over yourself dude it’s a TH-cam video it’s staying up , think in your 2 cent brain where my sources came from and I’ll continue pumping out videos for whinny metal fans like you to cry over and help build my channel further.
Love to see black/funeral doom talked about. Especially Mordor and even torture doom.
Excellent video dude!! extremely well researched and offered a lot more insight than anything ive come across yet on websites for funeral doom :D
im noticing in the comments some diphead named roy Thomas is having a mental breakdown over pointless arguments . guess the saying goes "metal heads are the best at being the worst".
I'm an old guy. But I don't have mental problems. I'm deeply involved with scene here in the UK, so I went into this video with an open mind, but this guy is just a dumb kid, rewording Wikipedia entries and presenting it like he's giving a class presentation. If that impresses you, then I'm sorry to say you're a leech and have no real respect for funeral doom. You guys may come to the concerts but you don't respect us. Wyatt is trend chasing, that's all he's ever done.
Esoteric is untouchable in the doom metal scene, the maniacal vale and the pernicious enigma are the best of the best in doom metal, and some of the better albums in all of music in general. Absolutely mind blowingly heavy/dark and unique. “Circle” is the pinnacle of metal, they shame the entire doom metal sub genre with the creative walls of sound they produce. The pernicious enigma is the most hauntingly insane record ever made in the most unique way possible. They’re often overlooked by people because they aren’t your basic gothic/black/death doom band which is copy and pasted all over the doom metal genre. But they are by far the best
CATHEDRAL - FOREST OF EQUILIBRIUM....
Exactly
One of the best sub genres of Metal when its cold and gloomy outside
I got into funeral doom through My Dying Bride. I was looking for melancholic motifs in metal genres and it was like deciphering esoteric texts. It was an epic and exciting adventure in the 90s without the internet.
First I was looking for bands from the UK, as MDB were from there too. I found Esoteric and their album Epistemological Despondency. Back then, we called the funeral doom genre simply death/doom, but without the gothic elements that were present in the trio from Peaceville.
So I started looking for bands similar to Esoteric and found Skepticism, Evoken, Mournful Congregation and Mordor from Switzerland, which was unique in that it combined most of my favorite genres: dark ambient, black metal, industrial and death/doom. Together with Mordor, I discovered the Polish band Ysigim and their tape Ain Soph Or. Their music sounded very "shamanic", as if they were the predecessors of The Ruins of Beverast.
Gems like Funeral and their album Tragedies somehow eluded me at the time, but then I discovered them after 2000, when the next wave of funeral doom started (Ahab, My Shameful, Catacombs, Bell Witch).
I remember we used to call these bands death metal, death/doom and gothic metal back in 90s. Esoteric was the same kind of depressive death metal as My Dying Bride, except they were more industrial rather than goth influenced than MDB.
Horizonless playing on the background is just perfection!!
Im even surprise you didn’t include Вой Круги Вечности, as they are mostly consider as the first Ussr funeral doom/black metal band to actually put up something even around then already merging soviet union scene with bands such as: Кремтор, преисподняя, черная вдова, Люцифер from Belarus,and русская зима). I’ve even seen few people consider this to just be funeral doom death metal but on my opinion after discovering this around 12 months ago personally this album mostly leans more of the pre second to first wave black approach something straight from Bellzlleb or even early Salem. It’s also to worthy to note that Круги Вечности is also the second black essentiel release from russia that was actually before where русская зима would later be commonly referred as the first black metal band to release on the scene. Though the album has the lofi sound it’s still worth checking out for those that are not only here for funeral doom but early 90’s black metal.
Yes!! I was here to post a very similar comment! They are absolutely essential and there is another demo that exists, it was released in 1989 and it was called Дети Чумы (Children of Plague) and I can't find it anywhere, but I will still search!
What an absolutely sick sound, I was so happy to get the demo on CD!
This band is a cool historical find, but they were fairly unknown until their album was uploaded to TH-cam in the last 10 years. A band that no one heard didn't do much to influence the wider scene.
I think another worth mentioning predecessor for funeral doom is Forest of Equilibrium by Cathedral: really bizarre kind of "extreme traditional doom" (I'd define it this way) that sometimes goes into very sorrowful territories that are eerily similar to what funeral doom will be. Listen to "Reaching Happiness, Touching Pain", get to the end of the song and tell me if that organ isn't a bit Thergothon-esque.
really appreciate the mordor shout. thought you weren't gonna mention them for a minute there.
Further bands to check out:
Worship (surprised they weren’t mentioned)
Funeral Mourning
Mistress of the Dead
Skumring
Consummatem Est
Ea
Aphonic Thredony
Remembrance
Ysigim
Raven (pre-Shape of Despair)
Profetus
Subterranean
Dooms Vain
Ættir
Fallen
Exhumation
Moss
Un
Atramentus
Frowning
Pantheist
Oromet
Also, the new album from Isenordal is incredible funeral doom and one of my top albums of the year
Edit: oh yeah! Rippikoulu was mentioned as a precursor to funedoom with their style of death doom, but their comeback EP is also incredibly underrated funeral doom metal itself!
Great bands, don't forget Shape of Despair and Longing for Dawn!
Florida's Paineater demo from 1989 may be contender for earliest.
"Funeral doom" didn't really exist at the time, so they most likely were attempting to dial up what Autopsy were hinting at. Impossible to gauge, as many were dabbling in those snail paces.
Cathedral's In Memorium demo (1990) is also a crucial addition.
Hell yeah bro! My old buddy Mark was in Paineater, they were great, it's a shame they didn't do more!
Funeral doom is a hard genre to love, but I definitely have a strong attachment to it. My trajectory was kind of odd, I ended up getting into Swallow the Sun and Trees of Eternity as a teen. I loved their melodies so much that I started browsing Spotify for similar stuff, and ended up finding Mournful Congregation (for some reason, StS and ToE recommended more funeral doom than regular death/doom, but I'm not complaining). I vividly remember staying up til 2-3 am on a bunch of summer nights just getting lost in MC's massive guitar harmonies. Not long after, I found Frowning, Shape of Despair, and Bell Witch, then a bit later came Ahab and Evoken. I NEED to listen to Esoteric more, but their albums are so long and dense that I often feel like I can't give them the time they deserve.
Anyway, this genre holds a really special place for me, thanks for covering it!
As always, Thanks for the video. The best English/metal TH-camr I've ever followed
Funeral doom is one of my all time favorite genres. The bands Moss, Shape of Despair, and Longing for Dawn are some incredible bands.
Call Of The Wretched Sea blew me away when I first heard it. I can't listen to music that sad anymore which kinda sucks because I loved the musicianship so much.
Great video..as always ❤
Thanks 🙏
I love the Autechre in the background!
I'm surprised I never see anyone mention Frowning. Maybe they aren't that popular in the genre or something, but their debut album is what first got me into the genre, and they always seem to be the sound I imagine when thinking of Funeral Doom.
Frowning is so good, seriously impressive for a solo project, too. The first 3 tracks on Death Requiem are (in my opinion) some of the best funeral doom I've ever heard, especially "Apocalyptic Essential Misery"
I would like to point out two excellent Italian bands among the pioneers of Funeral Doom: Novembre and Ras Algethi. They are worth listening to.
Ras Algethi is definitely an early funeral band, yet they continued as CANAAN which isn't much different, just more darkwave type of old school gothic metal (and funeral doom essentially is an old school underground gothic metal)
@@paravan2000 True, then merged together with Colloquio into Neronoia, very darkwave and with doom influences.
Favorite TH-camr uploaded a new video !
3:18 I thought you were going to name the Netherlands. There were so many Death/Doom bands during the early 90s like Asphyx, Mystic Charm, Beyond Belief, Sempiternal Deathreign, Mourning and Phlebotomized.
It bugs me that it’s not called ‘Funereal Doom’ which, I imagine, cements my outsider status.
My band got to open for Evoken a few years ago in Stockholm. It was massive. Small bar, dark and cramped. Also, Evoken where fucking sweethearts! Super nice guys.
Oh hell yeah new upload
One Album, I see as extremely foundational in the development of Funeral Doom, and somehow rarely mantioned is:
Cathedrals Debut Forest of Equilibrium.
I also see, that Cathedral nowadays is seen very much through the lense of their later works, so they are considered to be very much more connected to the Stoner side of Doom, but listening to this album alone - it has nothing of Stoner in it. It is pure unadulterated misery in its most heartwrenching form, so having more to do with funeral than with stoner.
And at the time, 1992, Forest of Equilibrium was much more extreme than the other Death Doom bands you could find like Paradise Lost or My Dying Bride, only Winter could match it. But compared to Winter Cathedral gave this developing style of music much more of a platform, so I think Forest of Equilibrium is definitely worth a mention.
Esoteric is one of my favourite groups across all genres. The Maniacal Vale being their Masterpiece (in my opinion) so far. I’ve even made a playlist to listen to as ambience when going to sleep.
I fully "blame" Funeral Mourning's Drown in Solitude for getting me into this style of music
autechre ❤
There's kinda like 2 Branches of Funeral Doom
The Dark Ambient One
Wormphlegm
Fuoco Fatuo
Oblivion
Nortt
Aarsland
The Melancholic One
Clouds
Helllight
Profetus
Frowning
Evoken
And there's the one who blends both style
Love your channel :)
Italian author Stefano Cavanna wrote an entire book all about funeral doom if you are interested: it's called "Il suono del dolore" ("The sound of pain"), but I'm not sure if they've translated it in English...
Fuck yeah man. Just got back into funeral doom metal again today. Put it in the search bar and this came up 🤘
Funeral-Tradedies and Tristitia-Garden of Darkness are my two favorite Funeral doom albums.
Somewhat of a "fun" fact is that in all of Senthil's work there are sections where they choked each other out with chains and their last cassette EP came with a razor blade and the j-card is smeared in blood, the first 15 came with a drawing by one of the guitarist who took their own life around the time they either started or halfway through their project (no info exist on the members except the names they went by in the project)
Try thru I'm In A Coffin, as Sad-ist was in Senthil as Plague, might be any infos of interest
@dodenmanniskan8846 the most I can find is that Plague is a man from Texas as all the bands he's been are from Texas. And on Metal Archives exist a single photo of him passed out on the floor in the corner of a house. Their final EP cassette also contains photos of the three band members but all of their faces are covered by their hair
@@Wesman2020 correct. They have an e-mail or something, they may answer about it, at least it won't kill anyone to ask
Huh! What a coincidence. I suggested something regarding the unfortunate lore of the band 'Funeral' and we get a Funeral Doom history video. I fuck with it!
Wake up babe Wyattxhim posted
My first run in with funeral doom was shape of despair, not really knowing what it was I still somewhat liked it but didn't really pursue more of it. Then I found ahab and boy did those guys make me dive into the genre. Now I'd say FD is one of my favorite metal genres. Also not mentioning atremuntus in this video is criminal.
Greg Chandler of Esoteric produced that Atremuntus album, many underground metal acts work with Esoteric. Also it's pretty weird to mention Swallow the Sun but not Shape of Despair, you know an actual funeral doom metal band. So much stuff left out. It's poorly researched.
@@RoyThomas-c7h he did briefly mention SOD for like a second
@@dakotaturner6701 Shame, Wyatt can't post his sources, though. He's just reading off Wikipedia.
@@RoyThomas-c7h what about youre sources bruh huh?! only bringing up Esoteric is basic Wikipedia knowledge bruh !! lol seriously get over yourself .
@@haybarn8487 there are virtually no sources in the video itself and I mention Esoteric because Greg Chandler produces underground metal albums for a living and you can hear his influence on almost everything he produces. Acting like Esoteric aren't the godfathers of this genre (alongside Skepticism) is absurd but Wyatt's puny brain likes entry level bands like Ahab and Bell Witch. Normie Pitchfork freak.
Doom is such a good live genre. I Boris perform Amplifier Worship all the way.. and it was absolutely body crushing. They were louder than Motörhead, Down and Sleep ffs!! My $50 earplugs did *not* help
this is what I listen to when i'm literally dead, in hell and in the mood for metal
I always admire your knowledge of various metal subgenres and others. Thanks, now I can explore the subgenre even more and down to it's roots! Funeral Doom Metal really opened a new dimension for how I've always perceived the metal world, it started with Mirror Reaper and I could just tell it's definitely more of an experience rather than entertainment.
From there I started exploring the depths of this subgenre where I've come across records such as Atramentus - Stygian, Drown Subaqueous, Skepticism - Stormcrowfleet. Man the concepts that come from Funeral Doom are so striking, many have left an impact on me.
If you want blackened funeral doom like Mordor I suggest the EP Looting The Tomb Of The Aramathean… by Black Mass Of Absu, the 3rd song Trudging To Calvary sounds like a slam/brutal death metal song played at half speed while someone spams haunted house sound effects over it
Great great video. Kinda miss Esoteric in this story. Big band and also unique psych funeral doom style,
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Mirror Reaper is in fact one 83min long track, cut in two for CDs reasons. Same goes for The Clandestine Gate, same length, same amount of tracks, which is, IIRC, the first part of a trilogy.
my personal favourite is A Pyre Of Lost Dreams by Black Wreath, still one of the most beautiful pieces of metal I've ever heard
ayo man, can you do an Explaining Moonblood video?
I prefer labelling these bands simply as FUNERAL METAL, rather than funeral doom, bacause I think is a fairly separate and distinctive genre from classic doom metal (i.e. Trouble, Black Sabbath, Pantagram, Candlemass, Count Raven, Solstice etc). It's origins are also way more rooted in old school underground gothic metal (think Monumentum or first The 3rd And The Mortal LP) and gothic rock/goth ethereal influenced death metal, rather than doom metal.
If you pay close attention to all these early bands like Thergothon, Unholy, Skepticism, Funeral, My Dying Bride, Anathema, Paradise Lost, Disembowelment, Evoken etc... you may easily notice how all of them started out as depressive death metal bands with big 80s darkwave influence. Death metallers who were listening to a lot of stuff like Dead Can Dance, SWANS, The Sisters Of Mercy, Cocteau Twins, The Cure, Fields Of The Nephilim etc. Thergothon even continued in a fully goth ethereal vein under the name This Empty Flow. Skepticism played death metal only on their first 7", but it got so toned down and almost non-recognizable on their debut album already, which took more direction of a 4AD/Projekt type of bands.
The black/death metal crossover with darkwave is kinda crucial for development of the funeral metal and that scene. It is basically the evolution of old school underground goth metal of the early 90s which avoided comercialisation but kept the artistic fundamentals of both extreme metal and darkwave and brought it to the next level. Also, the monotonous arrangements and depressive, melancholic fundamentals of funeral bands could be rather traced back to 1980 and The Cure's "Seventeen Seconds" LP than Black Sabbath.
Thanks for the reminder with the darkwave and post punk scene. Yes, death/doom and funeral doom drew from this scene.
I feel like its also worth mentioning the amount of non-metal influences on funeral doom which makes it just that much more distinct from death doom. Thergothon in particular was very heavily inspired by dark ambient and goth rock which contributes to the use of ambient synths. The vocalist for thergothon has a dark ambient project called Kadotus 609. He also stated in an interview that a lot of their inspiration came from goth rock bands.
Also I have seen so many people think that funeral doom is just doom metal with organ synths in the style of funeral music and whoever started this is very annoying. Good to see an actually informed take on this genre.
True, because darkwave and goth influence is crucial in development of these funeral bands, way more than doom metal like Saint Vitus. Thergothon also continued as a fully darkwave band back in 90s, under the name THIS EMPTY FLOW.
If only Wyatt could talk about this, instead he just rewords things from Wikipedia. He is far from informed. If he was, you wouldn't have needed to make this comment.
@@RoyThomas-c7h you didn't pay attention at all!! he mentioned gothic influences with the UK death/doom scene along with ambient influences bringing up Disembowelment .
@@haybarn8487 No he really doesn't mention them. He says "gothic aesthetics" and refers to the "ambience" of disembowelments music. Neither of these refer to the synth-heavy style of dark ambient and goth rock/dark wave. Ambient aspects of music is not the same as the dark ambient music genre and gothic aesthetics are not the same as goth music. Also these influences are so important they deserve more than just a 3 second mention. They are just as important to the development of the music as death doom is. Again, literally read interviews with these bands and they will state how big darkwave in their influences.
@@TheNoobaDooba I disagree with you there . he mentions riffs are used more as layers of ambience , he mentions the usage of keys are important when talking about Skepticism . I do agree its briefly mentioned and could be more fleshed out but both of your are talking as if its not at all mentioned and thats just unfair.
This is the niche bullshit I live for.
Hey wyatt many thanks for the video , Its great .
Would you do a video about Gothic Western or Americana ?
I am realy interested to hear your opinion.
... Hey just say the name of THE band : WAYFARER !!! ;) ...
Loss - Horizonless was my introduction to funeral doom
One of my favorite subgenres in Metal! Be careful: if you're not mentally well, stay away!
At 19:40 he says a band name but I can't make it out. Can someone share the secret please?
Nice to see Draft 7.30 there!
Haven't watch the full video for now, but i hope you make a separated video for the whole small torture doom scene someday (since you put senthil in the thumbnail)
Thought you might throw in PALLBEARER at the end but fair enough. I ❤ Pallbearer 😊
Love it especially Evoken 🙌 Too Feign Ebullience is one of the best songs ever
Abyssal "Glacial" 🏆🏆🏆
Mournful Congregation is kinda backgroundy but honestly, they have parts with really good heavy riffs.
I recommend Abandon, Funeral Sludge Metal very solemn
I adore funeral doom, its own of my favorite genres ever, with Mournful Congregation being a particular obsession of mine. I feel that band has shown this insane progression in songwriting capabilities, where it feels like every album they release just improves upon the last in nearly every way, which is exemplified in their newest track, The Paling Crest. I wish more funeral doom bands focused on songwriting like they did, since many a new band are just riffless and boring most of the time, where it feels like the same passage on repeat for 20 minutes.
Nice Autechre Vinyl
Can you make a video about the album *Jeremy Spencer and The Children"? It has a really disturbing backstory
Would be cool to do the history of crasher crust, war metal and gorenoise
Always sad not seeing Вой mentioned when talking about early funeral doom. They go head-to-head with Thergothon, having released a demo in '89 and a full length in '91, and they were DEFINITELY a funeral doom band
@@shyimon you’re actually one of the many people who have commented about them .
I will admit I should of included them (as I discovered them briefly before making the video) but I didn’t mainly because I really didn’t know what to say other then it’s funeral doom from Russia that came out in 91.
@wyattxhim niceeee my russian boys are getting a fanbase 30 years later
Love Winter. Are people sleeping on Göden (post-Winter)?
I always associated funeral doom with Shape of Despair's Angels of Distress... No one captured the crushing feeling that album evokes to me... until I found Lethargy of Death with Necrology which is kinda similar with a not that polished sound. Similar in terms of feelings evoked. Now, on your topic, there's a band called Ras Algethi from Italy which has only one album called Oneiricon released on '95 if I remember correct, which is in the same period of time with Funeral's Tragedies. While being in parts very funeral doom, is still very melodic. There's another italian band which I wanna say started in the same period very melodic too, and also funeral-ish, but I can't find it... I know they changed their style to some darkwave, which wasn't bad either, and no, it's not Monumentum. I kinda remember something... fabia lacrimavole, something... but I'm not finding it. There's also a band from Switzerland, called Excruciation, which started as a thrash band around '85-'86 than they started incorporating more and more elements of doom... I wanna say that at some point they were regarded as a doom/thrash band... but I might be wrong. The album from '07 is very doomy pretty heavy and definitely has some funeral doom moments. There's also this one-man-band from early '00, Nightrealm with a demo called Bleakness, which for a 16 y.o. guy, it's... very, very impressive and a very emotional trip. It's a lot of atmosphere but... it's quite oppressive.