@@HumanimalChannelThe commenter was merely generalizing the importance of the matter. You took offense to it for some reason.??? So you insult in return?
@jordolfrichler5575look guy, the reason prayers don't work for you, is because you don't believe, so of coarse you're in the dark, but the lord can bring you to the light. You don't have to come on here and tell someone that garbage you just posted. Walk away bruh. You just had to open your face with that wasted minute it took for you to write that. You see, the negative energy in you is so bothered by someone mentioning prayer, or anything God. It bothers you so much, so you feel this deep seeded urge to squabble something outof your mouth
@First, ... PRAYERS ... not God ... was mentioned. You've confused the two. Or, so it seems. However, God (his son Jesus) never claimed evil does not exist. In fact ... the Bible is all about Good vs Evil. Last ... prayer doesn't solve "the case" (not usually). That takes work, relentless effort, patience, a fair/impartial/nonbiased mind set, unfathomable amounts of time, energy, resources, open mindedness, good manners towards potential witnesses, witnesses willing to come forward, skills, experts, research, listening, good or excellent communication, therapy or time to recall relevant information (details) ... etc etc etc Many will pray that families of unsolved crimes survive (figuratively in case you're confused again) these, days, weeks, months, years, decades long investigations et al. Yeah ... prayer is necessary. Or a nice thought for their well being to cope/survive after these traumatic experiences. As nothing else ... works. Except maybe solving the case. But, until then even strangers have instructed family members to pray "the answer" falls into an officer's lap ... incase ... ??? ... officers aren't working diligently enough, headed down a false rabbit hole, not given permission or resources to investigate an unsolved or cold case. Many scenarios present obstacles. At times the "hard work" needed isn't even being allowed to take place ... because of no leads and or misinterpreted crime scenes (crime committed missed). Pray crimes in multiple states by a single perpetrator (or group of perpetrators with a unique link) are identified, analyzed and matched. Pray someone is looking at unsolved cold cases. These sociopaths often commit more than one homicide. Or, will continue for years & years until caught (or too old). We can pray for these families that someone in LE is willing to put in the work needed to solve. Sorry that you don't understand human nature, emotions etc.
It’s supposed to be, it’s an ongoing investigation. If and when they can present us all with facts to prove the lead is valid, then we will hear more. That is standard practice.
It's literally nothing. We got a tip from someone that someone else, who may or not be connected to the Delphi case, had a thing that we can't tell you what it was or why it's important but we think it's significant cuz, just joking we can't tell you why, and we're telling you this because who tf knows. I would say I can't believe the station ran this segment, but the media try to make nothing burgers into something burgers all the time. Especially if they can get eyeballs by sort of, but not really, connecting it with two gruesome crimes 🙄
@Keith Kellogg I live in Indiana so I can't disagree about the corruption. The handling of Delphi has been an embarrassment. Evidently they're going to try to baffle people with BS in this other case too.
Literally nothing. Some guy said another guy, who may or may not be connected to the Delphi case, had a thing we can't say what it is that we think is significant but we can't tell you why, and we're telling you all this because who tf knows. Nothing burger, hold the nothing sauce, with a side of nothing fries and a lowfat nothing shake to wash it down.
It’s sad that things like this happens. Prayers and love to both families of the missing/murdered/unsolved. I think police should know and do more than what they say.
Richard Allen's trial has been scheduled for 23 March but Judge Gull indicated that this is likely to be moved back due to the “thousands upon thousands” of pages of “extraordinary, voluminous evidence” in the case. So many strange twists and turns in the bizarre murders of two young teenaged girls. Glad the trial is finally coming up.
I figured it would take some time due to the research and being high profile. I sort of expect his lawyers to keep requesting more time. They all have their hands full considering the young victims and the coverage it recieved. Thank You for the update. 😊🌹
@@thomasmorano7779 - My brother's birthday, too!! What a coincidence! This is a sign , from my brother, to me, that you wrote this. Blessings to you, and much bliss.
One guy, and it's not Rich Allen. Police are stumbling around in the dark slapping the walls hoping that they'll find the light-switch. They didn't find Allen because of hard- smart work... They found him in a tip-box that they had overlooked for over 5 years. He was in there because one or two days after the murders, Rich Allen put his own name in there. They were looking in that box because more than 2 years ( the final full month digging around in the Wabash) of looking for evidence that Tony Kline had killed the girls, had yielded absolutely nothing Before that they were convinced that the man in the primary sketch ( a man between 18 and 40 years old, but with a youthful appearance?), was the guy they were looking for, and that the " muddy bloody man" in the first sketch had nothing to do with the murders and wasn't even the same person. And before that it was Ron Logan, a 77 year old man. And now it went from " Today is the day" to " We think Allen is involved"... Let me spell it out for you. The investigators have absolutely no clue what happened in Delphi. Allen isn't panning out, and they don't even think he killed the girls... he was just " there"... The Stephensons-murders have nothing to do with anything and police continue to bark up the wrong tree. I can't WAIT to hear the case they put together... unless of course, they get their way, and seal everything for all eternity, so that no one will ever know how bad they fucked this up.
BG is so,e random homeless vagrant. If there is a connection between the two cases then it’s the same homeless guy. He stayed in the house after he killed them because he wanted to have a roof over his head a little longer. he has nothing to lose and doesn’t care
@@paulwoodford1984 that is one of the dumbest youtube comments I've seen in a very long time. well done! Might have well said, he murdered them because he wanted to use the shower and eat a sandwich.
“They (detectives) have tried everything, including talking to ‘mediums’ and ‘’psychics”.” …Doesn’t exactly give me a lot of confidence in these investigators.
Just waiting for them to contact a voodoo doctor or an acupuncturist. WTF are these “investigators” doing? They have DNA, do the whole genetic genealogy deal!
@@paulwoodford1984 with the way the crime rate has gone up, and the grizzly crimes that are being committed, is no wonder people are more frequently diagnosed with PTSD. Until you have walked in and found your best friend butchered with a hatchet like I have? You have no clue what the hell you're talking about. You need to shut up unless you're some kind of superhuman who is totally numb to what people go through with circumstances like that.
@@paulwoodford1984 i never wish this for anyone except t when they say idiotic and hurtful things like this because they have no idea what its like to live with this. I have been living with one that is crippling for years and I wish for you one just like mine. To this day, havent seen anyone having it worse
Every time I see news about the Delphi case I feel so strongly that there is a secret group of people where they share fantasies of this type. They share their videos and pictures of these murders. It’s beyond horrific but that’s what it feels like.
@@tangerinetangerine4400 there are definately many very illegal stuff films online where there are actual victims... I'm sure there is groups of ppl that share these types of videos.. .. there probably small and segmented and it's not a huge collaboration though... prob sickos from the same towns that are into this crap... many of them I'm sure are never made in america and are probably made overseas especially in places where cartels are prevalent... it's horrible and very sad to think someone would want to watch something so disturbing but these ppl do exist and where there is a will there is a way so to say.
I understand that feeling, I get it, too. It's probably not the case though since from what I have read about killers is that they are relatively solitary about that part of their life. But who knows? Maybe one day something like that will be shown to be true.
@@nemonucliosis Yes it would be more fair if this happened to people who were not living their lives the right way. I bet the (godless heathen) killer targeted them because of their faith
I made a point a while back that if there was not a connection between Keegan Kline and Richard Allen we would be expected to believe that two completely different perpetrators, on the same day, at the same time, the same location targeted the same two girls but Keegan Klein did not get to the girls because Richard Allen got to them first. Sound far-fetched? The point I made is that there is a common denominator. There is someone else that is the link that connects those two...... That same person or people that connect Kline and Allen likely connect Delphi to this case.... It's True Crime Mathmatics 🤷🏽♂️
BG is some random homeless vagrant. If there is a connection between the two cases then it’s the same homeless guy. He stayed in the house after he killed them because he wanted to have a roof over his head a little longer. he has nothing to lose and doesn’t care
And you also insinuate that Kelsi German was involved. Now you believe this connection. Wow. If they think the weird staging connects the cases... then that is the very reason they are NOT CONNECTED.
@@HumanimalChannel Let’s keep in mind, she just seemed to “forget” about this fake account that was allegedly supposed to meet with her missing sister. And she WAS communicating w/this account while sitting at the police station… 1+1
That's the connection they're trying to say ...is that the similarity of the mclobster scary complex things that were done with to the bodies in the length of time the killer spent with their torsos is the same.
@@peck404 I wish I had more details? That’s a very interesting connection and definitely one that should not be ignored. I have a feeling, if I let my imagination run wild, it’s not gonna be enough? Ugh
@@juliannfriend6226 SO you would rather a innocent man be incarcerated... over a guilty party getting let off??? Just think if it was your spouse or sibling... you would rather them do life for a crime they didn't commit over a guilty person getting away with a crime??? The BIGGER injustice, in my opinion, is a good guy spending life in jail for a crime they had nothing to do with. But, we are different, and, that's okay.
And, other similar cases (being uninvestigated & going unsolved) ... and erroneously classified as "natural cause". Makes one start to wonder how many "staged" homicides were/are missed... categorized incorrectly. And, suspects literally roaming free ... not looking over their shoulder or waiting.
@@margaretlee-reed814 it almost sounds like she was saying the killer either staged a carbon monoxide accident or a carbon monoxide suicide. That is really weird!!
That's not unique sadly... I've heard other stories like this one... Some going even to take care of the pets for a few days as they lived in the house... Some people...
I think if Rick was fearful after being arrested it's because the most notorious murder of the current century in Indiana of two young girls has just been pinned on him with the possibility of Life in prison or the death penalty lingering right around the corner. He's practically the most hated man in Indiana and if it wasn't for police protection he would've been rounded up and hung in the streets of Delphi last October.
@@perpetualmotion357 exactly hes not scared of other pedo's ... hell hes gonna be held in solitary for the rest of his life ... for his protection... hes not scared of these other ppl
@@perpetualmotion357I don't think it was pinned on Rick I think he murdered those girls and this other case has nothing to do with it the bullets striation markings matched his gun 98% accuracy and only a 2% chance it could been from another gun of same make and model!
Garrett Kirts was also charged for the murder of Ray Hanish this week. That could be a big part of what's going on behind closed doors. Kirts has already dropped names in his Nichole Bowen conviction. 🤷
@@indigomoon777 did you read the comment I left on here it was like the sixth one, it was a novel you know my cryptic way but I really think they have been following along
He did indeed. I wonder if there's a tie - in with religious artifacts. I remember reading that religious items were found at the crime scene in Delphi. They were part of the staging.
A psychic on TH-cam named Richard Allen as the killer close to a year before he was arrested!! She also got the first name of the Idaho 4 killer and described his “bushy eyebrows”, curly hair, exact build and the fact that he resembles Ted Bundy all weeks before the suspect was arrested. So they are sometimes spot on and LE would be wise to collaborate with a psychic like that.
I was stunned that LE turned to psychics and mediums. It would never occur to this world to ask the Lord-and the Lord says "Why consult the DEAD on behalf of the living? Should not a ppl inquire of their GOD?"!!! I prayed nonstop that the perpetrator of an abduction of a 12 yo girl whose family I knew, and 2 months later they improbably caught the guy. Praise God. I'm not saying the Lord will always answer in this way, but we can be sure even His seeming silence is an answer. He may be saying "Vengeance is MINE. **I** will REPAY!"
Any real knowledge a so called medium reveals come from familiar spirits (demons) that’s why so few tips pan out. Satan would rather just a few occultists have the veneer of credibility just to get people believing there is possibility the dead can be contacted.
Kegan Kline...100%! Has to be. Remember that weeks long river search off info from KK? Kegan was cooperating. Last we heard FBI came to the river, collected something then the search was over. I bet this is the result of that search!
@Keepin it Classy everyone thinks his dad has more to do with things and that Kegan is aware of past things and involved in current things. Very much probably ratted on him maybe? Dad has a bad history.
Holy Cow. I’ve been obsessed with the Delphi case. I have been following it since the beginning. Ahh 😮, not the first time the statement Complex Case came up. Come on, solve it! Ohhh, victim prolly had a pacemaker. Do key actors (jurors, judges, & attorneys) agree on whether a case is complex? What makes a case complex? Can a jury render fair & responsible decisions in complex cases?Man, I took that Delphi murder personal - I feel like that could of been me at that age or my daughter.
So did I, I've been checking the news every day hoping they would find out who did this. It's so frustrating that so many things in the investigation have seemed to go wrong. It's heartbreaking to see these families have to go through all of this. If I'm this frustrated I can't imagine how they feel.
They're very different victim types so it would be strange if they are connected. The Evansdale murders of Elizabeth Collins and Lyric Cook-Morrissey seem potentially to be connected.
the elderly couple's murder sounds like a knock at the door. Someone who visited the home on multiple occasions did that where they were able to study the couples movements. the couple sound like they were comfortable with this person and they trusted this person enough. Just sad
@@diddyfaplord Yep they tried to make a nothing burger into a something burger by putting extra nothing sauce on it. The important thing is I got a belly laugh from your username 🤣🤣🤣
Cases don't have to involve the same people in order to have a connection always. How many others could be that we don't know about? I'm not suggesting that there's a serial killer on the lose. But i don't think it's just a possible link these two.
@Kelli Erin seems to be something post mortem happened. I won't bother speculating about any of it but yes I agree. That and possibly the same beliefs or practices whether it was to throw le off or not I still think there's some people somewhere who feel they benefited from their deaths. Hate to say there were sacrifices but this case is the strangest thing I've ever followed. It's like the other case there in Indiana. Odd circumstances yet they appear to be very different.
@@Petunia00 it's as if an underground group of weirdos got together to discuss techniques to throw off the police or to do diabolical things to a torso... Or these are the kind of things that they broadcast on that yellow app live streaming cuz they say that was used
The matching unspent ejected bullet matching his gun pretty much says it all it's new science but will it hold up in court is the question so hopefully they have more evidence!
the guy is from an obscure place on the continant and he came here..that is why no genetics yet..thats my 2 cents anyway..because it only costs $10.000 or even half that to find genetic genealogy
I do NOT want to think what the police saw in both cases: it seems like a grotesque staged murder involving torture for a snuff movie ?? WHAT A NIGHTMARE !!
This explains Doug Carter's comment of many tentacles to the Delphi case. I wonder if the signatures left at Delphi scene are the same or related to the Stephenson case. The truth must be way more horrendous and stranger than fiction.
@@indigomoon777 I read that one theory is a killer and then someone else doing the staging and posing. The killer(s) also left written messages. How bizarre! If the two cases are connected, what or who could be the missing link?
@@Lady_Monet I'm wondering if "the guy" who was giving them their information was Kegan Kline which was connected to the river search? They said they "followed him around collecting information"
Many people believe that there was more than one killer with more than one motive to kill the girls,where do we start?meth dealing/manufacture, insurance scams,child porn,snuff films and the so called respectable influential people in Delphi are involved in some or all of this stuff,it's ALL connected.basically that's it,but trying to find out who with all the BS and lack of info in this case is the challenge.Libby knew something and by default so did Abby they had to be silenced.at least that's how I would explain it in a nutshell.imo.
A particular time could pinpoint the killer? That falls within 1-4 am? Sounds like 3am one was killed. We know the girls were around 3pm. Is there a significance to these times when considering what's been said about the crime scenes at one point?
Pagans love the middle-of-the-night especially if they're part of a meth crew the scream was heard at 2 a.m. in the instance of Abby and Libby, and in my opinion that's when Abby was injured! I had always wish they had gotten a broader Alibi including into overnight and the next morning! because it only takes one person to convince the girls to go off with them like they may be to a barbecue pig roast or to star in a film and then the whole crew shows up later and it 2 a.m. things go south kind of what I have speculated because of the odd time frames and I don't trust half the witnesses
The top half of the candy bar wrapper that matches the bottom half of the candy bar wrapper found at the scene. (This was sarcasm for those who are clueless.)
When I heard the audio of the murderer saying “down the hill guys” everyone presumed it was him saying it to the girls but I always believed it was him saying it to 1 or more accomplice x
No, he said: “Guys…down the hill.” He was directing his words to the girls by saying “Guys…(pause)…down the hill.” The girls were walking in front of him as he held a gun on them. He was directing them. No one else was there.
If he did it and they get justice for all these other people that would be something. At least one good thing to come out of the loss of two young lives 💔
@@Justin.Martyr Wonder what made you waste your time under my comment? Bored or need attention? Because if it’s the ladder there are websites for lonely men who need attention.
Seems odd that these 2 murders would be connected to Allen. But if you look at the golden state killer his victim's ranged from 12 to 41. So I guess it could happen.
Nothing is connected to Allen. Cold case investigators are saying there are similarities with bodies being staged. That doesnt automatically mean allen is a suspect there too.
Stephenson's case needs as much attention as delphi where ever the evidence leads! We need good detectives with eyes open!
The detectives on thr case ARE the best.
Detective Coy Cox, Sherrif H,
Why are you beibg so ignorantly disparaging?
@@HumanimalChannel Do you lick your own boots this hard?! Hope you're getting paid for this hardcore meatriding.
@@HumanimalChannelThe commenter was merely generalizing the importance of the matter. You took offense to it for some reason.??? So you insult in return?
The story DID have a tremendous amount of attention at that time.
Deepest sympathies to this couple's surviving daughter.
Prayers for her; and the investigating agency to solve.
@jordolfrichler5575look guy, the reason prayers don't work for you, is because you don't believe, so of coarse you're in the dark, but the lord can bring you to the light. You don't have to come on here and tell someone that garbage you just posted. Walk away bruh. You just had to open your face with that wasted minute it took for you to write that. You see, the negative energy in you is so bothered by someone mentioning prayer, or anything God. It bothers you so much, so you feel this deep seeded urge to squabble something outof your mouth
@jordolfrichler5575 you don't really know the power of prayer...
@First, ... PRAYERS ... not God ... was mentioned.
You've confused the two. Or, so it seems.
However, God (his son Jesus) never claimed evil does not exist. In fact ... the Bible is all about Good vs Evil.
Last ... prayer doesn't solve "the case" (not usually). That takes work, relentless effort, patience, a fair/impartial/nonbiased mind set, unfathomable amounts of time, energy, resources, open mindedness, good manners towards potential witnesses, witnesses willing to come forward, skills, experts, research, listening, good or excellent communication, therapy or time to recall relevant information (details) ... etc etc etc
Many will pray that families of unsolved crimes survive (figuratively in case you're confused again) these, days, weeks, months, years, decades long investigations et al.
Yeah ... prayer is necessary. Or a nice thought for their well being to cope/survive after these traumatic experiences.
As nothing else ... works. Except maybe solving the case.
But, until then even strangers have instructed family members to pray "the answer" falls into an officer's lap ... incase ... ??? ... officers aren't working diligently enough, headed down a false rabbit hole, not given permission or resources to investigate an unsolved or cold case.
Many scenarios present obstacles.
At times the "hard work" needed isn't even being allowed to take place ... because of no leads and or misinterpreted crime scenes (crime committed missed).
Pray crimes in multiple states by a single perpetrator (or group of perpetrators with a unique link) are identified, analyzed and matched.
Pray someone is looking at unsolved cold cases.
These sociopaths often commit more than one homicide. Or, will continue for years & years until caught (or too old).
We can pray for these families that someone in LE is willing to put in the work needed to solve.
Sorry that you don't understand human nature, emotions etc.
Well this was all very cryptic.
a rubicube...
It’s supposed to be, it’s an ongoing investigation. If and when they can present us all with facts to prove the lead is valid, then we will hear more. That is standard practice.
It's literally nothing. We got a tip from someone that someone else, who may or not be connected to the Delphi case, had a thing that we can't tell you what it was or why it's important but we think it's significant cuz, just joking we can't tell you why, and we're telling you this because who tf knows.
I would say I can't believe the station ran this segment, but the media try to make nothing burgers into something burgers all the time. Especially if they can get eyeballs by sort of, but not really, connecting it with two gruesome crimes 🙄
Hes too big of a coward to break into a house. I don’t think he did it.
What the hell are they talking about?
💯 - I keep rewinding and I am trying to understand wth? It's really a Wowsa moment if RA isn't involved 👀
Richard Allen is not guilty and Delphi police know it.Delphi police are corrupt as hell go check it out
@Keith Kellogg I live in Indiana so I can't disagree about the corruption. The handling of Delphi has been an embarrassment. Evidently they're going to try to baffle people with BS in this other case too.
Bunch of nonsense. This has nothing to do with Richard Allen
Literally nothing. Some guy said another guy, who may or may not be connected to the Delphi case, had a thing we can't say what it is that we think is significant but we can't tell you why, and we're telling you all this because who tf knows. Nothing burger, hold the nothing sauce, with a side of nothing fries and a lowfat nothing shake to wash it down.
It’s sad that things like this happens. Prayers and love to both families of the missing/murdered/unsolved. I think police should know and do more than what they say.
Richard Allen's trial has been scheduled for 23 March but Judge Gull indicated that this is likely to be moved back due to the “thousands upon thousands” of pages of “extraordinary, voluminous evidence” in the case. So many strange twists and turns in the bizarre murders of two young teenaged girls. Glad the trial is finally coming up.
I figured it would take some time due to the research and being high profile.
I sort of expect his lawyers to keep requesting more time.
They all have their hands full considering the young victims and the coverage it recieved. Thank You for the update. 😊🌹
My brothers birthday
@@thomasmorano7779 - My brother's birthday, too!! What a coincidence! This is a sign , from my brother, to me, that you wrote this. Blessings to you, and much bliss.
Dang, I hate it's being pushed back. After the Murdaugh trial, there's a need. That was just nerve breaking.
*Wise One; but, You Dooo BeLieve in the Loooord Jesus!!!*
I have thought at least one other person was involved in the Delphi case. Interesting. Hope this couple gets justice.
One guy, and it's not Rich Allen. Police are stumbling around in the dark slapping the walls hoping that they'll find the light-switch. They didn't find Allen because of hard- smart work... They found him in a tip-box that they had overlooked for over 5 years. He was in there because one or two days after the murders, Rich Allen put his own name in there.
They were looking in that box because more than 2 years ( the final full month digging around in the Wabash) of looking for evidence that Tony Kline had killed the girls, had yielded absolutely nothing
Before that they were convinced that the man in the primary sketch ( a man between 18 and 40 years old, but with a youthful appearance?), was the guy they were looking for, and that the " muddy bloody man" in the first sketch had nothing to do with the murders and wasn't even the same person. And before that it was Ron Logan, a 77 year old man.
And now it went from " Today is the day" to " We think Allen is involved"...
Let me spell it out for you.
The investigators have absolutely no clue what happened in Delphi. Allen isn't panning out, and they don't even think he killed the girls... he was just " there"...
The Stephensons-murders have nothing to do with anything and police continue to bark up the wrong tree.
I can't WAIT to hear the case they put together... unless of course, they get their way, and seal everything for all eternity, so that no one will ever know how bad they fucked this up.
BG is so,e random homeless vagrant. If there is a connection between the two cases then it’s the same homeless guy. He stayed in the house after he killed them because he wanted to have a roof over his head a little longer. he has nothing to lose and doesn’t care
Le thinks that too so do i
@@paulwoodford1984 no. They were in the home long enough because they staged the scene so intensely. Every room.
Bill and peggy were targeted.
@@paulwoodford1984 that is one of the dumbest youtube comments I've seen in a very long time. well done! Might have well said, he murdered them because he wanted to use the shower and eat a sandwich.
“They (detectives) have tried everything, including talking to ‘mediums’ and ‘’psychics”.”
…Doesn’t exactly give me a lot of confidence in these investigators.
The CIA and other agencies have used em before. One famous case to find a missing satellite i believe?
For real
And now they’re trying to look into pinning a murder with a totally different MO… They are useless
Just waiting for them to contact a voodoo doctor or an acupuncturist.
WTF are these “investigators” doing? They have DNA, do the whole genetic genealogy deal!
When you have no evidence, you’ll try anything, even if you don’t believe in it.
I hope all the families involved get justice. I am sorry for your loses
Justice for all
Poor daughter has PTSD from this…. No words 🙏🏼
everyone claims to have PTSD. it’s nonsense
@@paulwoodford1984 being traumatized by your parents murder is nonsense?
@@paulwoodford1984 with the way the crime rate has gone up, and the grizzly crimes that are being committed, is no wonder people are more frequently diagnosed with PTSD. Until you have walked in and found your best friend butchered with a hatchet like I have? You have no clue what the hell you're talking about. You need to shut up unless you're some kind of superhuman who is totally numb to what people go through with circumstances like that.
@@paulwoodford1984 i never wish this for anyone except t when they say idiotic and hurtful things like this because they have no idea what its like to live with this. I have been living with one that is crippling for years and I wish for you one just like mine. To this day, havent seen anyone having it worse
@@paulwoodford1984 Foh 🤡
Every time I see news about the Delphi case I feel so strongly that there is a secret group of people where they share fantasies of this type. They share their videos and pictures of these murders. It’s beyond horrific but that’s what it feels like.
That's very unlikely. Usually in similar crimes the perp acts alone.
@@tangerinetangerine4400 there are definately many very illegal stuff films online where there are actual victims... I'm sure there is groups of ppl that share these types of videos.. .. there probably small and segmented and it's not a huge collaboration though... prob sickos from the same towns that are into this crap... many of them I'm sure are never made in america and are probably made overseas especially in places where cartels are prevalent... it's horrible and very sad to think someone would want to watch something so disturbing but these ppl do exist and where there is a will there is a way so to say.
Dark web
@@tangerinetangerine4400are you in this grpup? Sounds like something someone in the group would say? 🤔
I understand that feeling, I get it, too. It's probably not the case though since from what I have read about killers is that they are relatively solitary about that part of their life. But who knows? Maybe one day something like that will be shown to be true.
It's so unfair that this happened to people like the Stephensons.
So it would be fair for some other family that arent like the Stephensons?
@@nemonucliosis That's exactly what I said. It would totally be fair for anyone except them. That sounds totally logical.
@@nemonucliosis Yes it would be more fair if this happened to people who were not living their lives the right way.
I bet the (godless heathen) killer targeted them because of their faith
@@cappy2282 please describe "the right way"
@@nemonucliosis ...People who live their lives with dignity and grace
I made a point a while back that if there was not a connection between Keegan Kline and Richard Allen we would be expected to believe that two completely different perpetrators, on the same day, at the same time, the same location targeted the same two girls but Keegan Klein did not get to the girls because Richard Allen got to them first. Sound far-fetched? The point I made is that there is a common denominator. There is someone else that is the link that connects those two...... That same person or people that connect Kline and Allen likely connect Delphi to this case.... It's True Crime Mathmatics 🤷🏽♂️
BG is some random homeless vagrant. If there is a connection between the two cases then it’s the same homeless guy. He stayed in the house after he killed them because he wanted to have a roof over his head a little longer. he has nothing to lose and doesn’t care
Interesting theories, Klutch. Definitely points to consider. Thanks for sharing your ideas.
Kk wasnt even there. And i dont think they were targetted. I think it was a snap decision, or a crine of opportunity.
And you also insinuate that Kelsi German was involved.
Now you believe this connection. Wow.
If they think the weird staging connects the cases... then that is the very reason they are NOT CONNECTED.
@@HumanimalChannel Let’s keep in mind, she just seemed to “forget” about this fake account that was allegedly supposed to meet with her missing sister. And she WAS communicating w/this account while sitting at the police station…
1+1
These cases are very different. I would be surprised if they are linked.
Yeah I agree - sounds like another lot of useless police departments.
They’re actually very similar. The scenes were very similar.
@@batgirl4766 sounds like more of an Israel Keyes type killer
That's the connection they're trying to say ...is that the similarity of the mclobster scary complex things that were done with to the bodies in the length of time the killer spent with their torsos is the same.
@@peck404 I wish I had more details? That’s a very interesting connection and definitely one that should not be ignored.
I have a feeling, if I let my imagination run wild, it’s not gonna be enough? Ugh
I'd choose a guilty man get away with it.... over a innocent man spending life in prison for a crime they didn't commit!
That's the best way I've ever heard that be put. I might steal that...
And the other crimes the guilty man will commit when free that’s good with you?
@Lyn Patricia exactly that doesn't make any sense.
@@juliannfriend6226 SO you would rather a innocent man be incarcerated... over a guilty party getting let off??? Just think if it was your spouse or sibling... you would rather them do life for a crime they didn't commit over a guilty person getting away with a crime???
The BIGGER injustice, in my opinion, is a good guy spending life in jail for a crime they had nothing to do with. But, we are different, and, that's okay.
@@ItsJustMe1954 I will put it this way, I never want to see a guilty man charged with murder to walk free. Would you????
The daughter said the bodies were staged and the killer spent hours with them 🤔
And, other similar cases (being uninvestigated & going unsolved) ... and erroneously classified as "natural cause".
Makes one start to wonder how many "staged" homicides were/are missed... categorized incorrectly.
And, suspects literally roaming free ... not looking over their shoulder or waiting.
@@margaretlee-reed814 it almost sounds like she was saying the killer either staged a carbon monoxide accident or a carbon monoxide suicide. That is really weird!!
That's not unique sadly... I've heard other stories like this one... Some going even to take care of the pets for a few days as they lived in the house... Some people...
For nearly 10 or 12 years... good to know they can get the facts straight, right away.
I was thinking the same thing! How unprofessional that was.
Am I stupid for being confused?
No
No.
Not at all because I'm just as confused..i don't get what one thing has to do with the other..🤔🤔🤔
Yeah u is
Na I think we are all confused as hell
Truck driver could get away with alot. Always on the go, never in the same spot...
Thank You
This is why Ricky is so scared when he was arrested, he knows how evil the other person or persons are.
Yep
I think if Rick was fearful after being arrested it's because the most notorious murder of the current century in Indiana of two young girls has just been pinned on him with the possibility of Life in prison or the death penalty lingering right around the corner. He's practically the most hated man in Indiana and if it wasn't for police protection he would've been rounded up and hung in the streets of Delphi last October.
@@perpetualmotion357 exactly hes not scared of other pedo's ... hell hes gonna be held in solitary for the rest of his life ... for his protection... hes not scared of these other ppl
I think torture is the only means of getting the answers we all want. I also believe it should be allowable in special circumstances.
@@perpetualmotion357I don't think it was pinned on Rick I think he murdered those girls and this other case has nothing to do with it the bullets striation markings matched his gun 98% accuracy and only a 2% chance it could been from another gun of same make and model!
I think they’ve forgotten that “news” is supposed to be informative. This secret squirrel story left me confused…. Huh, what happened?
I want to know more about this squirrel
Garrett Kirts was also charged for the murder of Ray Hanish this week. That could be a big part of what's going on behind closed doors. Kirts has already dropped names in his Nichole Bowen conviction. 🤷
Oh was he? We were were recently discussing whether some involved may already be in jail. Like TT…
@@indigomoon777 did you read the comment I left on here it was like the sixth one, it was a novel you know my cryptic way but I really think they have been following along
I reckon ol Garrett knows a lot.
I have been so immersed in the Murdaugh trial I had no idea. I'm so relieved the Hamesh crime is being addressed. That was so sad.
Really?! That is great! Best news I've heard in a while. I hope Kirts does the right thing and keeps talking.
Similar to the Lake Oconee case. So sad. Hurting our most vulnerable 😡
Go get 'em, Boys!
I’m so confused. Linked but not including Richard Allen ???
I doubt RA acted alone.
Hmm I wonder if it's one of the other suspects.
Richard Alen is being framed he’s not guilty
@@keithkellogg5325 He oozes guilt.
@@keithkellogg5325 That is a possibility indeed
Remember Doug Carter said this "complex case" ........
He did indeed. I wonder if there's a tie - in with religious artifacts. I remember reading that religious items were found at the crime scene in Delphi. They were part of the staging.
@@giovanna722 🎉 you get it!! My Goddess, it’s almost too simple 😅. Glad we think alike 😊
I bet Many shocking things will come out soon! Think high up!
Yeah I believe this is an extremely complex internet homicide
Psychics? What, going to use a magic 8 ball next?
Ok,,, I’ve lost all confidence in these people.
A psychic on TH-cam named Richard Allen as the killer close to a year before he was arrested!! She also got the first name of the Idaho 4 killer and described his “bushy eyebrows”, curly hair, exact build and the fact that he resembles Ted Bundy all weeks before the suspect was arrested. So they are sometimes spot on and LE would be wise to collaborate with a psychic like that.
Signs point to yes. Solved!
That poor couple 💔 I pray thier family will get justice soon!!!
Delphi arrested Richard Allen to quiet the public.
*God has a PLace for you DeMonicRats!!!*
Why not jump the line and do a genealogy DNA with the profile they have? Find the perp using family DNA.
I was stunned that LE turned to psychics and mediums. It would never occur to this world to ask the Lord-and the Lord says "Why consult the DEAD on behalf of the living? Should not a ppl inquire of their GOD?"!!! I prayed nonstop that the perpetrator of an abduction of a 12 yo girl whose family I knew, and 2 months later they improbably caught the guy. Praise God. I'm not saying the Lord will always answer in this way, but we can be sure even His seeming silence is an answer. He may be saying "Vengeance is MINE. **I** will REPAY!"
Any real knowledge a so called medium reveals come from familiar spirits (demons) that’s why so few tips pan out. Satan would rather just a few occultists have the veneer of credibility just to get people believing there is possibility the dead can be contacted.
The link is prob truck drivers who unloaded at Allen’s work
Hummm, not a bad idea
I pray their daughter gets answers !
This is not his first Time killing someone,,,,a complete sociopath
Thank you detective Cox. Amazing LEO!
They don’t make it easy to report a tip. No phone number? No website? No agency?
hence; thus
May they Rip so sad sending condolences to the families.I hope they get the justice’s
I hope that all people involved get answers for their loved ones 💖
Part 1 would be nice
th-cam.com/video/B13yb-gwuXE/w-d-xo.html
Seems like they should've waited until the DNA comes back before speaking about it publicly.
The connection is the gun
Wow! People fabricate the weirdest little stories in their heads over stuff like this.
Its so creepy and ironic abt the pedo Kegan catfishing one of the girls and then they get murdered...its too much of a coincidence.
The clot thickens!
Kegan Kline...100%! Has to be. Remember that weeks long river search off info from KK? Kegan was cooperating. Last we heard FBI came to the river, collected something then the search was over. I bet this is the result of that search!
He was too young. This case happened in 2011.
@Keepin it Classy everyone thinks his dad has more to do with things and that Kegan is aware of past things and involved in current things. Very much probably ratted on him maybe? Dad has a bad history.
Klines not involved.
Yeah the connection means the things that were done to the crime scene and the bodies.
Carroll County prosecutor wanted the PCA sealed and one reason was they suspected more than one person was involved.
Rick was probably the only one physically there the others involved are part of the Cyber catfishing.
Not the Carroll county accident??
@@spikenomoon WHAT??
@@pattyvanpilsum9897 Sorry. There’s an old country song called The Carroll county accident. I’m weird so sorry
@@spikenomoon 😂
I want Justice for the girls and the Stephensons, where ever the evidence points.
Two cases solved in one arrest would be amazing.
Wont happen.
They have DNA. WTF???
Yes, they have DNA
“Why this item exists”
It’s media. I bet the trucker has a pic or video from the scene of the Florence couple.
Or something he stole.
How about the Evansdale's murders????? Any link there?????
And the Flora fire girls?
Holy Cow. I’ve been obsessed with the Delphi case. I have been following it since the beginning. Ahh 😮, not the first time the statement Complex Case came up. Come on, solve it! Ohhh, victim prolly had a pacemaker. Do key actors (jurors, judges, & attorneys) agree on whether a case is complex? What makes a case complex? Can a jury render fair & responsible decisions in complex cases?Man, I took that Delphi murder personal - I feel like that could of been me at that age or my daughter.
With your experience in homicide investigations, maybe you can solve these cases.
So did I, I've been checking the news every day hoping they would find out who did this. It's so frustrating that so many things in the investigation have seemed to go wrong. It's heartbreaking to see these families have to go through all of this. If I'm this frustrated I can't imagine how they feel.
*could've
@@kennethcurtis1856 I bet you can count your friends on no fingers.
same
Wow, I’d like to know what that item is.
Maybe the gun? Maybe Allen wasn't the original owner and he bought it after it was used in that crime?
@@Tracy-hm3yi It was reported that RA bought that gun in 2001.
They're very different victim types so it would be strange if they are connected. The Evansdale murders of Elizabeth Collins and Lyric Cook-Morrissey seem potentially to be connected.
What about Bryan Koeburger
yeah, right. talking to medium or psychics will surely help...
the elderly couple's murder sounds like a knock at the door. Someone who visited the home on multiple occasions did that where they were able to study the couples movements. the couple sound like they were comfortable with this person and they trusted this person enough. Just sad
Probably the individual who was looking for Bill. Someone they helped.
Wtf is wrong with people. Smh
Tragic that this is our society
Huh? What’s the connection?
If there not going to give ANY information , just don’t post !
Exactly, this is click bait bullshit. So the same guy who was attracted to young girls murdered an elderly couple? Na
@@diddyfaplord Ikr?
@@diddyfaplord Yep they tried to make a nothing burger into a something burger by putting extra nothing sauce on it. The important thing is I got a belly laugh from your username 🤣🤣🤣
Cases don't have to involve the same people in order to have a connection always. How many others could be that we don't know about? I'm not suggesting that there's a serial killer on the lose. But i don't think it's just a possible link these two.
I feel the connection is the similarities of what was done to the torso and bodies of both crime scenes
@Kelli Erin seems to be something post mortem happened. I won't bother speculating about any of it but yes I agree. That and possibly the same beliefs or practices whether it was to throw le off or not I still think there's some people somewhere who feel they benefited from their deaths. Hate to say there were sacrifices but this case is the strangest thing I've ever followed. It's like the other case there in Indiana. Odd circumstances yet they appear to be very different.
There are many serial killers on the lose, check the stats. Could be an underground murder club that profits off the dark web.
Agree
@@Petunia00 it's as if an underground group of weirdos got together to discuss techniques to throw off the police or to do diabolical things to a torso... Or these are the kind of things that they broadcast on that yellow app live streaming cuz they say that was used
you can see the evil in his eyes
Prayers to their daughter.
*LOT ah Good yo Prayers have did!!!*
just because its Delphi doesn't mean its Allen.. idk that the Prosecution will be able to prove him guilty alone beyond a reasonable doubt for sure
The matching unspent ejected bullet matching his gun pretty much says it all it's new science but will it hold up in court is the question so hopefully they have more evidence!
the guy is from an obscure place on the continant and he came here..that is why no genetics yet..thats my 2 cents anyway..because it only costs $10.000 or even half that to find genetic genealogy
His is taking soooo long its ridiculous!
I do NOT want to think what the police saw in both cases: it seems like a grotesque staged murder involving torture for a snuff movie ??
WHAT A NIGHTMARE !!
This explains Doug Carter's comment of many tentacles to the Delphi case. I wonder if the signatures left at Delphi scene are the same or related to the Stephenson case. The truth must be way more horrendous and stranger than fiction.
@@Lady_Monet Im thinking signatures too
@@indigomoon777 I read that one theory is a killer and then someone else doing the staging and posing. The killer(s) also left written messages. How bizarre!
If the two cases are connected, what or who could be the missing link?
@@Lady_Monet I'm wondering if "the guy" who was giving them their information was Kegan Kline which was connected to the river search? They said they "followed him around collecting information"
@@rachael943 Was that when KK was back in Indiana in police custody?
The murder of the old people sounds evil and with so little details about the Delphi scene released, were both pairs of victims staged for finding?
rylvnd Well the victims couldn`t be more different and the location where they were attacked as well.
They have said the Delphi girls were “posed”. This couple was also.
He implied an object which made me think of non secular.
Abby and Libby were posed and positioned very purposefully. The scene was heavily staged.
Did this guy ever live I Louisville? Maybe as a teenager?
So they have "something" but it's not linked to Alan, but to Delphi?
Novermber 2022 tip is not that long ago, this is crazy
Literally 3 months ago… this is stunning!
Somebody please explain. So confusing!
Richard Allen is being framed.Delphi police are corrupt
Many people believe that there was more than one killer with more than one motive to kill the girls,where do we start?meth dealing/manufacture, insurance scams,child porn,snuff films and the so called respectable influential people in Delphi are involved in some or all of this stuff,it's ALL connected.basically that's it,but trying to find out who with all the BS and lack of info in this case is the challenge.Libby knew something and by default so did Abby they had to be silenced.at least that's how I would explain it in a nutshell.imo.
There's nothing to explain. Nothing happened except we got robbed of 6 minutes of our lives.
A particular time could pinpoint the killer? That falls within 1-4 am? Sounds like 3am one was killed. We know the girls were around 3pm. Is there a significance to these times when considering what's been said about the crime scenes at one point?
One of them had a pacemaker.
What was said about the crime scenes?
Pagans love the middle-of-the-night especially if they're part of a meth crew the scream was heard at 2 a.m. in the instance of Abby and Libby, and in my opinion that's when Abby was injured! I had always wish they had gotten a broader Alibi including into overnight and the next morning! because it only takes one person to convince the girls to go off with them like they may be to a barbecue pig roast or to star in a film and then the whole crew shows up later and it 2 a.m. things go south kind of what I have speculated because of the odd time frames and I don't trust half the witnesses
@@Dougland214 yeah I call em lookouts not witnesses.imo.
@@anneloving8405 definitely scene staging ya know you need Allll the camera angles and Snapchats to plant!
Wowwww
What an odd duck. He's sure not gonna solve his case without sharing something.
Lord please help we need justice
That would be an interesting twist !!! Am here for it. Can't wait for June. It will be this case and the Idaho case. Hmmmm.
A "specific person with a specific item" what do you think he means??
Nothing. We've all just lost 6 minutes we can't get back.
The top half of the candy bar wrapper that matches the bottom half of the candy bar wrapper found at the scene. (This was sarcasm for those who are clueless.)
Something possibly stolen at the Stephensons murder that was found at the Delphi murder scene.
Well detective Coy Cox is living up to his name here. Not saying shit.
What's this all about? Identical staging?
Where in the F is this now coming from?
Could be Garrett Kirts. He was charged with the murder of Ray Hanish this week.
Could it be shell casings?
We're praying for you Ricky 😥🙏
#NotGuilty
He is going to need more than prayers.
Delphi monster been jailed two years now try the case 😮😢😈🙏💕
hoprfully the information is a good lead and is not a red herring.
This whole video is just people talking in riddles. It's just a waste of time.
Look at this: the man is dressed in a suit and his co anchor is wearing a shirt you’d wear out to walk in the park.
Good thing the cops are talking to mediums and psychics, that will solve the case for sure
They should blind fold a cop and have them put a pin on a map indicating where the murder lives. That should speed things up.
Huh… this makes zero sense
Better look at him for the marina bolter case too.
Talking to mediums? Good use of taxpayer money
When I heard the audio of the murderer saying “down the hill guys” everyone presumed it was him saying it to the girls but I always believed it was him saying it to 1 or more accomplice x
Absolutely no evidence of that
No, he said: “Guys…down the hill.” He was directing his words to the girls by saying “Guys…(pause)…down the hill.” The girls were walking in front of him as he held a gun on them. He was directing them. No one else was there.
If he did it and they get justice for all these other people that would be something. At least one good thing to come out of the loss of two young lives 💔
*MorRon!!!!*
@@Justin.Martyr Wonder what made you waste your time under my comment? Bored or need attention? Because if it’s the ladder there are websites for lonely men who need attention.
@@savannah5333*
@@Justin.Martyr oh nvm you’re clearly prepubescent.
@@savannah5333*
Can't they just compare Allen's DNA?
What a bunch of non developments. This give the conspiracy nuts a hay day to read into this Officer of the laws non information.
BREAKING NEWS: Nothing happened. We'll keep you updated on this breaking non-story 😂
Seems odd that these 2 murders would be connected to Allen.
But if you look at the golden state killer his victim's ranged from 12 to 41.
So I guess it could happen.
Nothing is connected to Allen. Cold case investigators are saying there are similarities with bodies being staged. That doesnt automatically mean allen is a suspect there too.
BLAKE and Chynna Dickus also?
Huh