I entirely agree with your comment about use of gyros. They bring a whole different aspect to this hobby which is equally fun. The derogatory comments generally seem to come from those who learnt in the dark ages! Have you experimented with using heading hold to give more stability when flying a high alpha pass. I have yet to try it but I think you link it with Roll rather than yaw. It's supposed to reduce stall because it will react faster than you and you are concentrating on throttle and pitch. It will also help with thrust vectoring hovers - apparently. All interesting areas to explore!
I actually disabled heading hold on all of my models because it felt weird in the air - it makes the aircraft snap out of position instead of smoothly transition back to pilot input. A FCS shouldn't feel like that. Any input should be smoothed out instead of looking or feeling janky. I compensate by using two AS3X gains - one setting for regular flight and one for extra stabilization on windy days or during precision flight.
@@TwoBrosRC Interesting. I'll see how I get on and report back. Weather here (UK) not very conducive to EDF flying at the moment. I have my own grass airstrip and I extended my main runway in the Autumn and hope it will be useable by the Spring. So currently it's bungee launches and Draco/Timber and Bison type flying.
As is your norm AJ.... you always cover he most important subjects with regard to the particular RCs design and performance.... and you seem to always add the safety aspect of the models use by CHILDREN.....which is something that most other guys here on the tube don't do.... major props for that.... again.... THANK YOU and your crew for what you bring to our hobby on a regular basis ....☮...I'm Out!!
Great job on the flights Jon it's too bad where I fly at I really can't do any rc jets at all because of the nose plus I'll most likely feel limited since I'm so use to the limitless agility my smaller 3d foamies and profile planes gives me but hey that's just me.
@@TwoBrosRC True all that credit goes to my uncle for getting me in this hobby when I was 12 and for building,fixing and teaching me how to fly which I'm always great ful for.
I’m having a love hate relationship with my F-35. It came with a bad Y-harness and took a while to figure it out. I eventually bought my own waiting on Motion to send a replacement. But my take off is not near as smooth as yours and tips so easy. Are you doing anything special, or I just have a lot to learn. Also, what are your gyro settings?
It's on the stock motor and ESC. In terms of floating, it doesn't float much yet - but I'll see if I can demo any potential there in the near future. The F-22 is a different beast entirely, more of a 3D jet without thrust vectoring. The F-35 feels more like a sport jet with extreme agility.
@@TwoBrosRC hands down the f22 is my go to jet. I really enjoy it's wide flight envelope. I usually enjoy flying slow and slow and when I need to get our of a situation I just throttle up(running a stock setup). Can you remind me which motor you are using on the f22 and have you upgraded the ESC as well?
My F-22 uses this ESC: tinyurl.com/SpektrumAvian130a The motor is the FMS 1950kv 90mm motor which you can pick up on RC Castle, or potentially via Horizon's website by searching "Spektrum 1950kv".
You mention Gyro stabilization on pitch and roll axis. Do you reccomend to not use stabilization on the yaw axis? I have the f-22 and f-35 but for the time i'm still feeling a bit sketched out on the landing, but hopefully will get to more aerobatic soon.
Jon when u drop the Ailerons into flaps what's controlling your roll? Are the elevators still working in sync or are they then acting like ailerons controlling the roll? Cheers
You need differential stabilators (tailerons) set up. I'll demo how to do this on tomorrow's upload for the F-35 setup video. You then hold full back elevator until it stalls, then pull full left, or right, and continue holding full elevator pressure. If the CG is neutral or not too nose heavy, it will begin to flat spin. Exit by letting off the stick pressure so the nose drops on its own, then throttle out of it and continue flying as normal.
Hey folks 👋🏻👋🏻👋🏻 smash that like button 😇
I did b4 jon was cool & got TH-cam commercials!😁👍
WHEN u invent a maneuver you haven't seen/heard of before, YOU get to NAME it!!!
Haha, which part of the vid are you referring to here?
I know im late but that slide loop into alpha was crazy 🔥🔥
Well done. It's a fast moving little rocket with amazing slow speed ability. Keep 'em coming.
That's the plan!
that loop to alpha was a nice touch, plus the roll rate on this bird is insane 🔥🔥 she's a keeper alright!
It's super capable - no idea why people were saying it sucks unless they just didn't set it up right?
You was rude as hell when I asked which plane to buy but you are still my favorite RC channel. Haha
Good video!
Uh, do what?
😂😂
That power loop to alpha at the 8:42 mark was AMAZING!!! Curious to know what your favorite EDF is. If you could only keep 1.
The F-22 would be the one I'd keep, though the Viper 90 is a close second. Thanks!
The sound is crazy 🔥🔥
Nice Jet for the price point it comes in at....Love the Cloud Cover show off the planes so much better than just blue skies
1:32 it's the RC angel's 😇
Freewing has been putting out some stellar EDF jets! Less expensive than FMS and every bit as good!
Not always less expensive, but often.
I entirely agree with your comment about use of gyros. They bring a whole different aspect to this hobby which is equally fun. The derogatory comments generally seem to come from those who learnt in the dark ages! Have you experimented with using heading hold to give more stability when flying a high alpha pass. I have yet to try it but I think you link it with Roll rather than yaw. It's supposed to reduce stall because it will react faster than you and you are concentrating on throttle and pitch. It will also help with thrust vectoring hovers - apparently. All interesting areas to explore!
I actually disabled heading hold on all of my models because it felt weird in the air - it makes the aircraft snap out of position instead of smoothly transition back to pilot input. A FCS shouldn't feel like that. Any input should be smoothed out instead of looking or feeling janky. I compensate by using two AS3X gains - one setting for regular flight and one for extra stabilization on windy days or during precision flight.
@@TwoBrosRC Interesting. I'll see how I get on and report back. Weather here (UK) not very conducive to EDF flying at the moment. I have my own grass airstrip and I extended my main runway in the Autumn and hope it will be useable by the Spring. So currently it's bungee launches and Draco/Timber and Bison type flying.
nice flying
As is your norm AJ.... you always cover he most important subjects with regard to the particular RCs design and performance.... and you seem to always add the safety aspect of the models use by CHILDREN.....which is something that most other guys here on the tube don't do.... major props for that.... again.... THANK YOU and your crew for what you bring to our hobby on a regular basis ....☮...I'm Out!!
Great job on the flights Jon it's too bad where I fly at I really can't do any rc jets at all because of the nose plus I'll most likely feel limited since I'm so use to the limitless agility my smaller 3d foamies and profile planes gives me but hey that's just me.
At least you can fly - most people can't, so you've got that going for you!
@@TwoBrosRC True all that credit goes to my uncle for getting me in this hobby when I was 12 and for building,fixing and teaching me how to fly which I'm always great ful for.
I had 3 of these. obviously had problems flying it lol. If it didnt look so good i would have stopped after i totaled the first one
Sweet loop to Alpha!
Thanks bud!
I’m having a love hate relationship with my F-35. It came with a bad Y-harness and took a while to figure it out. I eventually bought my own waiting on Motion to send a replacement. But my take off is not near as smooth as yours and tips so easy. Are you doing anything special, or I just have a lot to learn. Also, what are your gyro settings?
All the setup info is in our setup guide. Search "two brothers f-35 setup". That should help out.
Are you flying it on the stock motor & ESC? That's looks quick!
How does it compare to the f22? Does it float like the f22?
It's on the stock motor and ESC. In terms of floating, it doesn't float much yet - but I'll see if I can demo any potential there in the near future. The F-22 is a different beast entirely, more of a 3D jet without thrust vectoring. The F-35 feels more like a sport jet with extreme agility.
@@TwoBrosRC hands down the f22 is my go to jet. I really enjoy it's wide flight envelope. I usually enjoy flying slow and slow and when I need to get our of a situation I just throttle up(running a stock setup). Can you remind me which motor you are using on the f22 and have you upgraded the ESC as well?
My F-22 uses this ESC: tinyurl.com/SpektrumAvian130a
The motor is the FMS 1950kv 90mm motor which you can pick up on RC Castle, or potentially via Horizon's website by searching "Spektrum 1950kv".
You mention Gyro stabilization on pitch and roll axis. Do you reccomend to not use stabilization on the yaw axis? I have the f-22 and f-35 but for the time i'm still feeling a bit sketched out on the landing, but hopefully will get to more aerobatic soon.
I'd have any surface stabilized, there's really no reason not to.
Awesome flying! Just went to buy one and out of stock
Thanks man. I'm surprised that it's out of stock.
Is your alpha crow reversing aileron/elevator mix to allow for higher angle of attack while still maintaining linear airflow over the main wings?
It's mostly to get the wing past its critical AoA so it can fly on thrust alone without dropping a wing first.
Jon when u drop the Ailerons into flaps what's controlling your roll? Are the elevators still working in sync or are they then acting like ailerons controlling the roll? Cheers
The stabilators are differential in my setup, so they assist with roll. This is identical to how the full scale operates.
@@TwoBrosRC excellent thanks Jon. Will take a look at your set up video u highlighted to me. Will an AR631 suffice? Being only a 5 channel jet?
Your aileron gyro gain could be decreased a tad, but I might need one now... Thanks... lol
Just needs tweaking on the mix. Some of the wing rock is turbulent air, some of it is just a little too much stabilization at a given throttle level.
Do you think this plane is worth it? I have the freewing F-5 80mm. I wanna get this one.
It depends on what you're looking for in a jet.
@@TwoBrosRC I really like jets that can pull cobras easily. Aka good maneuverable jets.
Looks like that thing could roll apart
How do you do those flat spins ??
You need differential stabilators (tailerons) set up. I'll demo how to do this on tomorrow's upload for the F-35 setup video. You then hold full back elevator until it stalls, then pull full left, or right, and continue holding full elevator pressure. If the CG is neutral or not too nose heavy, it will begin to flat spin. Exit by letting off the stick pressure so the nose drops on its own, then throttle out of it and continue flying as normal.
@@TwoBrosRC awesome ! Niice !! Thanks 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 those look cool ..
Is it that loud out of the box?
Yep.
VERY INTERESTING GOT ONE WONT BE FLYING UNTILL IM CONFIDENT THATS PROBABLY NEVER NICE IN BOX NEW JUST WATCH YOU THE INSTRUCTOR
Wait until my setup video drops tomorrow - I'm sure you'll find it easy to follow along with and get set up for any kind of flying you'd like to do.
@@TwoBrosRC BRILLIANT I'LL BE WATCHING FOR SURE CHEERS JON 🍻 👏