Punk: Born In The US, Thrived In The UK? | History of Punk | Amplified
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- Punk: Attitude is a documentary on the history of punk rock in the U.S.A. and U.K. The film traces the different styles of punk from their roots to the '70s London scenes and into the hardcore present. Interviews with many of the musicians are edited with live clips and historical footage.
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Punk was such a different approach to music that relied almost entirely on feeding off the energy of the listener instead of providing listening pleasure like just about everything before. It was a slap in the face to a complacent industry, and I love it for that.
Tout à fait d'accord...tout est dit.Punk's not dead and it will Never die!!!!
The idea of punk was revolutonary,the actual records not
The world wouldn't be the same without punk and the massive influence it has had on music and culture
it's actually the other way around ...
@@sexobscura punk wouldn't be the same without the world? What are you, a martian?
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Venutian, please
If this is true, it's only because the genre and lifestyle is easy to glamorise and commodify. Even people outside of the scene and movement know who Sid and Nancy are. It's a shame, really. Punk died before it ever became an actual thing.
Cannot beat the neptunium dream people
I was a punk in 77. It was very satisfying to piss people off just because of the way you looked. Later on when in Iron Cross in DC it was the same. Oi was a great kind of music, street punk. It was a great time. I don’t think there will ever be another scene like it.
I graduated high school in 1978 and started collecting records about 1980. The first LP's I started with was Punk -- Ramones, The Clash, Sex Pistols, The Jam, Blondie (who were considered punk at first), X, Damned, Germs, Buzzcocks, etc. From there I broadened my horizons, of course, and started accumulating classic 50's, 60's Rock, Blues, Folk, Jazz and more. Then New Wave exploded, and I started getting into alternative and synth music of the 80's, all great. But my first love was late 70's Punk, which I still listen to today. There's something nostalgic about it now, but the music is still vital to my ears.
Punk was over by the end of `78. Punk was a 2 year pisstake.
Virtually noone in the US ever worked that out
@@admiralbenbow5083 most ppl don't know about the real punk world/history
That was Shane from the pogues at the start😂what a fantastic songwriter he was, despite his addiction to alcohol, he wrote some incredibly beautiful and sad songs👏♥️🍻
saw the pogues, '89. Joe Strummer came out and surprised everyone. They did London Calling....
@@kevinrbarker The clash!! What a band they were, saw them at the good old Roxy club about a hundred lifetimes ago, ahhh the good old days 🥰mind you I'm old enough to remember the Beatles 💯❤️
@@Mike-ir9fx Love him in The Nipple Erectors, such a raw band
Surprised to see what he was wearing
and he quickly traded in his Union Jack for the Tristar on joining The Pogues, too
"Mike Hunt's Honorable Discharge" - Now THAT'S a great name for a punk band. LMFAO 😂
Hmmmmm they could have called it the FISTED PHEATUS,,,,
Don't be given people fukken ideas now sweetheart....
@@ernestinemaloy8680 Hey, I didn't come up with that! Chrissie Hynde apparently did, according to this video 😂
Shane McGowan (The Pogues, Fairy-tale of New York) at the beginning wearing the Union Jack, jacket.
ya...he still had teeth
Started listening to music in 1976 at 16 and this was what I got into. Still listen to tons of it too. Awesome.
You sir were born at the perfect time.
so you gained your hearing at 16 then
In the US, many guitarists talk about seeing the Beatles on Sullivan, which was equalled by the Pistols at Manchester in '76, and what an incredible momentum that certain gig created, for punk, into New Wave and beyond.
I used to listen to pink floyd and elp. Then Punk hit in the 70s. Haircut. My Mum said I looked like a convict (I am). Happiest years ever.
Yeah, a number of people I knew did that, but most of us stayed the course. My hair only got longer, but I listened to The Ramones album when it came out in 1976 and heard The Sex Pistols album in December 1977. I saw "punk " rock as an extension of hard rock and looking like a hippie freak myself I was often looked at sideways by fashion punks but once I opened up a bag of Sex Pistols and Damned Tshirts that I had made up for sale(cheap 10$ each) and all was good ,they liked me. At later shows during crossover period I had C.O.C ,D.R.I. and Motorhead shirts. Still have my long hair.
That may be the best brief autobiography I've ever read!
It would be nice if something like this happened now. I think 20, 25 years of pop and rap as the dominant form of music in our culture is more than long enough
Nervana were the last real punks and they crossed punk with hard rock and johnny cash
Also the Pixies!
Get some friends. Start a band.
The attitude also should be about thinking for yourself, anti establishment, diversity of opinion, going against mainstream norms etc.
@Ajit Adonis Manilal Rap is crap and always has been. It's the death of music.
Musically punk was born in Australia with the Saints. Hear their 1974 recordings..
Musically, punk is no different than any other kind of Rock. It is attitude and lyrics that make punk.
Who? Lovely long haired ramones types? Do us a favour.
No no no no.. I specified musically .. the hair has nothing to do with it. Neither did the many other bands that played primitive rock'n'roll that is commonly referred to as pre-punk. The Saints in '74 sounded exactly the same as a Rough Trade band in '78. Hear. ''The Most Primitive Band In The World (Live From The Twilight Zone, Brisbane 1974)''
NY mate.
@@nic-ci_66-77 I see what you mean. But the problem is that’s not where the American and British punk bands got their sound, simply because they weren’t listening to the Saints.
Shane McGowan in the opening was epic...
the reason why punk is so often thought of as british by some people is because the u.k. is nice and tiny and so youth movements can flourish and spread there in a way that was utterly impossible in late 70's USA. plus that it was the first place that the music and the fashion received mainstream press whereas it was mostly ignored in the states until well in to the late 80's.
in the end, though, like heavy metal i really don't think of 'punk' as being either american or british but rather a series of influences at different times in different places in different ways that would ultimately make it what it became.
Yeah. Punk took off in England, and while it was never the mainstream genre, it made a huge cultural impact, in sound, attitude, and obviously fashion. Ask anyone around the world what a punk looks like, and it'll be someone like Sid Vicious, not Henry Rollins. Many British punk and post-punk bands were actually commerically successful, even if few made any real money, whereas American bands really struggled for any kind of recognition, even in their own cities.
@@RevStickleback richard hell actually started the punk look (spiked hair, safety pins) and then malcom mcclaren took it back to the u.k. and combined it with fetish clothing. then the ramones introduced the leather jackets and jeans look and all of those together made the punk "uniform" what it became. it took off much faster in the u.k. because the u.k. is so tiny and has really great networking between areas thru trains and whatnot.
@@NoirL.A. The UK has over 65 million people. What it does have though is one truly major city, which was also the centre of the music industry and the media in general.
@@RevStickleback L.A. is the center of the music industry by far and new york and london are the topdog for media worldwide. either way both punk and heavy metal and goth are not "british" or "american" our people collectively gave the world the greatest music in human history and we did it together even if we didn't know it at the time.
@@NoirL.A. Yes, but punk was still nothing much beyond the small crowd going along to CBGBs etc in New York. Punk didn't flourish in New York, or any other US city.
Punk gained fame because of the British punk bands, so it's no surprise that many associate it with Britain.
What you could say though is that the US had a bigger underground scene in the years that followed, without which the 90s punk bands (love them or hate them) probably wouldn't have evolved, giving punk to a new generation.
Vivienne Westwood- 🟥 Juggernaut of British Culture 🟥 REST IN PEACE. 🌿1941- 2022🌿
Aussie punk band The Saints started in 1973 ,a year before the Ramones and about 3 years before the Sex Pistols .
The saints released their first single before any of the other 'Punk' bands. The Stooges weren't a punk band.
They were another long haired band.Admittedley the were around early but they again never started anything.You have to have a following first.They didnt.
@@aaarrrggghhhh They didnt start anything.A garage band at best like MC5.
@@xbfdx988
The Stooges, eran Proto/Punk, al igual que MC5, The Dictators...
por nombrar algunos.
Un saludo:
@@aaarrrggghhhh
Correcto, no lo eran
Era Proto/Punk.
I need the full documentary please💕
American Punk and British Punk were different. British Punk was definitely more political given what was going on in England during that time. American Punk was more of a musical reaction to the over production that was occurring in the American rock scene at the time as well as the conformity of rock culture. Was there overlap? Of course there was but there were primary trends in the music as well.
@Chet Senior Are you serious? As someone who lived through the punk years I can pretty much assure you it was a lot more than fashion. Many of us were fed up with the mostly bloated direction of pop and rock and the increasing corporate direction of the industry. It was a musical rejection of what was being pushed on us and of corporate culture.
Punk rock in the UK started off as a performance art project by Malcolm McLaren and Vivienne Westwood. That is why it was much more image-oriented and political than it was in the US. They were trying to be provocative.
@@googleislame Art project? No. Westwood provided (at cost) clothing that was already catching on anyway. McLaren provided some basic level management, not an ounce of which went into the music or direction of the band, although he later would claim he masterminded everything - something nobody else seems to recall him doing.
Best time in my life. Music terrific and the clothing was so cool. Happy times apart from the Thatcher years
Thatcher was after Punk.
It was in Canada too, my dad used to take my brothers and I along Younge Street in Toronto in the '70's, you could hear crazy music from around back, I was too young to understand, but I learned years later it was punk in small bars.
Crazy? Canada? Not with you
Its an awesome doco, had it for years. A must see!
Where's the rest of this documentary? I love it!
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The DAMNED are the GREATEST punk band of all-time. Their albums spread out from the confines of the early punk sound and only got better for it. I think Machine Gun Ettiquite is just untouchable. The songwriting began to hint at just how great Dave and the Captain's composition skills are and then they proved it with Strawberries, The Black Album, and Phantasmagoria. All of this is to say nothing of the fact they've stayed in the trenches still touring decades after their contemporaries gave up. They DESERVE statues in their honor outside the Fairfield Hall in Croyden where Captain used to clean the toilets. They've been a way of life for me since I was a teenager who owned over 180 different Damned vinyls: every foreign pressing, every color vinyl available, and every rare bootleg. They were the funnest band to collect by far.
I'll be surprised if you had Neat Neat Neat jap promo
Nah
The Damned is the best 🖤🖤🖤
Yes, the least interesting band of the UK scene is the best.
@@ejtattersall156 LOL you must be taking the piss, why do u think they're the least interesting then?
@@judian9643 No. I'm not taking the piss. The Damned have been acting cute and trend hoping for decades. "New Rose" and "Neat Neat Neat" were SO revolutionary.
@@ejtattersall156 mate that's a terrible reason for thinking they're the "least" interesting. Come back to me when you find out a well thought out reason for not liking a band instead of being sarcastic nob or you really are just taking the piss lol
@@judian9643 You could have just said, "Nuh-uh!" Then you'd be as boring as the Damned.
If you follow legs McNeils train of thought then Australia is in the running for inventing punk with The Saints who formed in the early-mid '70s like the Ramones, their debut 45, a major plus is that 'I'm stranded' is also a record that the sun will always shine on.
My pops was in a band with Kirsty McCall called the drug addix 77-79
R.I.P., Kirsty..
@kyfaydfsoab because he is from that generation obviously, he said his father was a punk , read and comprehend
Fairytale of New York . Great song
@kyfaydfsoab n ur pictures? Waste
One of the best things about these documentaries is that kiss never existed ,or disco the daydream of it warms my heart
Kiss formed after they were inspired by the New York Dolls
I realised years ago that it doesn't matter where punk started because the time difference was just months apart by maybe a year at the very most, and the three earliest countries all had different approaches towards what would become known as punk, Australia like the USA wasn't so much into the visual aspect whereas the with UK version the look was initially just as important for impact, the USA version had people who were older than the UK and Australia bands.
The Australian version was generally nearer to the UK version than the more muso USA bands.
But really it doesn't matter what country started it, so the Ramones started a few months before the Sex Pistols, who cares? Who SHOULD care? No one because it's irrelevant.
Plus lots of the American bands still looked like Hippies until they realised that they could sell more records in the UK than they ever could back home in the USA, that made them cut their hair and ditch the flares!
I remember bands like crass,discharge, dead Kennedys getting records in the national charts in uk.
what a time to grow up in, i maybe old and fucked now, but its only on the outside,in my heart i still want to rip it dolwn and start again,
The Ramones are my favorite!
I haven't seen this said elsewhere, but the "punk rock" phenomenon owes it's name to Legs McNeil, the guy at the beginning here who says his mother told him "punk started in England." The music scene forming at CBGB and Max's Kansas City in New York City was first called the "NY Underground Rock" scene. Then, John Holmstrom came out with a magazine covering that scene. In devising a name for the magazine, Legs McNeil, Holmstrom's friend, suggested calling the magazine "PUNK." Because the magazine was writing about the new bands, particularly the Ramones, the term "punk" became a simple name to attach to the entire scene happening at CBGB/Max's Kansas City. There were other bands in other cities developing in the US who would later be seen as having similar goals and influences as many of the NYC bands, and so "punk" was applied to those bands and those scenes as well. So, "punk," so-called, was without question born in the US, and, particularly, in New York City.
We’ll I guess punk started in America then.. I think the point is missed, punk was just a term for it the genre . The sex pistols are the band that everyone talks about for good reason !! They were much more hardcore than the New York scene. If you were take the pistols out of it you would have just had a magazine called” punk” which is an American term for what happens to rookies in the prison showers . The whole scene in England was different but the two countries scenes got wrapped up under the same umbrella
Not a bad thing though.. as allies we tend to throw music back and forth
The terms "punk rock", "punk music" and "punk" (to describe a style of r n' r) had been in use since 1969 or 70. So Legs didn't coin it but yes the genre probably got its name from the magazine
Well, yes, of course. I didn't suggest Legs coined the term "punk" or the first to apply it to rock music, but his suggestion to name their magazine "Punk" is what caused that term to be applied to the NY music scene at CBGB and Max's. It is much more to the point than "the NY Underground Music scene," which was the term being used to describe the scene. The band SUICIDE even billed their shows as "punk music" as early as 1970.
There is an American band called The Punks and they were playing punk in 1973.
MC5 in the 60’s, counter culture, hard rock, anti authority. I guess it’s not “Punk” until you find the rag writer that put it in print? There it is, 1973…BEFORE the Ramones OR the Pistols.
For a band to be punk it has to have a rock beat and electronics like guitar distortion and synthesisers before integrated circuits came along they used valves and they called new wave progressive rock it’s almost impossible to find the first proper punk band but the punks are the earliest band that I found that sound like proper punk.
You know that is Shane MacGowan in the union jack jacket, right?
Why put a part of the documentary here while the full documentary is on TH-cam too ?
The Saints 1976 "I'm Stranded" Aussie Punk. ✌️🤘🏴🇦🇺
Was chatting to Glen Matlock on Tues eve … his band was on at new venue in Denmark St W1 : The Lower Third his band played…. This doc must be at least 15 years old?
Older. It's probably 25-30 years old.
Siouxsie still looks beautiful🥰
The opening shot is of Shane McGowan of the Pogues.
When he used to have all his teeth.
We were Americans, my dad was in the Airforce and our family got stationed in England in 1977-i was 10 yrs old and remember all of this!!! The military families and men loved to take trips to London just to look at the punks!!!
Is the woman speaking at 6:15 Caroline Coon?
More billshut about punk history! Like they were on the internet all day comparing musical notes between the U.S. & crappy England under Thatcher.
Remember, AC/DC were considered punks when they lobbed into town - as if they had no idea in another hemisphere or country.
It doesn't matter what city punk started in, it happened in 74/75/76 in the USA, UK and Australia.
And France.
1964 In Perú to be honest.
"Born in the US, thrived in the UK", that describes most of the music that's dominated the world for the last 100 years.
Music constantly travels back and forth between the two giants of the English diaspora and just gets better for the journey.
The thing is punk came from bands like the stooges and then transcended to the ramones, but what was happening in Britain at the time perfectly captured what the youth had to do monarchy, thatcher, the economy etc and they adopted punk
You couldn't be more wrong if you tried Sad youve learned anything from documentary & Stooges were 60"s / early 70's & Ramones were fast 50"s bubble gum pop played bit faster But Punk Started in London
@@woody5831 No, started in the US in the 60s. There is no define start to punk.
@@3dandyrandy3 That is correct, it is an evolutionary process.
@@woody5831Sorry, like other forms of modern music the Brits were influenced by “Underground” (as it was termed before Punk) bands like MC5 and the Stooges. All punk is: fast rock and roll made by bands that were making their OWN scene anyway…mainly four bar blues.
Rubbish! Total missed the most iconic moment of PUNK history ever the first punk song every released paving the way for the Brit bands, September 1976 The Saints "I'm stranded".
Love the strapped pants
I think Chrissie Hynde meant Steve Jones at the end, there.........
And the stooges not the ramones…..
@@midwestoutdoorstv9235 I dunno. The Ramones were an influence, as were the Stooges and the New York Dolls/ Johnny Thunders.
@@davidwhite4874 The Sex Pistols started Aug. 1975. The Ramones had never recorded or been in London or Europe, or had any radio play. The first Pistols gig was in 1975. The Ramones had still not crossed the Atlantic, nor did they have any recordings. The first Ramones play in London came in April 1976, when the Sex Pistols had already been touring headliners for months.John wrote a song specifically attacking the Dolls called New York. Yes, the Stooges were an influence. The rest is lies. Johnny Rotten said of the Ramones: " "[The Ramones] were all long-haired and of no interest to me. I didn't like their image, what they stood for, or anything about them"; "They were hilarious but you can only go so far with 'duh-dur-dur-duh'. I've heard it. Next. Move on."
dI think she meant Jones listening to the Dolls. He said as much himself.
@@lencolby4605 John trashed the Dolls in "New York". People assume all these bands as influences for the Pistols, but you know what a band likes by their covers.
Sex Pistols covers:
No Fun; Stooges
Road Runner; Modern Lovers
No Lip: Dave Barry
No Substitute: The Who
Stepping Stone: (Various artists)
What'Cha Gonna Do About It: Small Faces
I wish more docs would explain why the pistols went off on TV...that garbage presenter said some stuff to the girls there that deserved a telling off.
Punk isn't just about shocking people...it's about common sense and not being a garbage person. Seriously, there's no punk without logical people getting pissed off at the illogical ruling class.
The Pistols "went off" because they were drunk and because it was fun.
@@mjh5437 reductive as fuck
Everybody around do tell that Grundy was also drunk AF and being provoking all the way, he was fired a while after this.
When "I'm stranded"- The Saints September 1976 came out, Malcolm McLaren heard it and started to take interest in the Punk seen he soon got the Pistols and others who were already around in the studio. That was the beginning of PUNK.
Well no, The Saints were early but there was a whole background from Wilco Johnson's guitar work, the USA scene with MC5, so no despite the Siants being v good they weren't the beginning
You're way off, McLaren had his finger on the pulse way before 76, he witnessed what was taking place in New York especially, during early 70's. Plus, so much of the music was gravitating towards a rawer sound, with more relevant lyrics. Punk as it is now known was inevitable, just as the Hippy scene was too, just as the Rave scene was, etc.
Everything's so watered down now due to the sheer explosion of diverse cultures and the internet itself. I've never understood why so many focus on one type of music though. I can listen to so much from the late 50's up to present. There were always rebels, and good songs around, and great music too; powerful, miles away from the bland mainstream rubbish.
Sex Pistols formed in 1975.
Lmao fucing nonsense. Malcom Mclaren came to America and saw what the NY Dolls and Richard Hell where doing.
Punk was not born exclusively in the US and thrived in the UK. In France, as early as 1972, there was a small subculture of hip folks who liked to dress in black and were into Lou Reed and heroin, who called themselves Punk. In Italy, in 1973-74, certain local singers-songwriters with a definite attitude and musically more rock than their peers (like Edoardo Bennato) got called "Punk" by the press. In Australia, bands like The Saints and Radio Birdman, roped in the Punk movement but never considered themselves as such, started out in roundabout 1973-74. And all this without even considering all the 1960s outfits around the world, who, bearers of a wild sound, got dubbed posthumously Punk (like Los Saicos from Peru). The term has been coined without a doubt in the US and appeared for the first time in the monthly music magazine Creem in 1969 when talking about those mid-1960s bands who, inspired by the British invasion, developed a raw and hard sound and had one or two regional hits before fading into obscurity (like Chocolate Watchband, the Sonics, Count 5, the Music Machine, etc.). I a process of synergy and unbeknownst to each other, is seems that the word was picked up at the same time by many movements in different countries. So to give paternity to one sole country is incorrect and short-sighted.....
Good to see someone out there knows what they’re talking about 🎸👏🏼
Great summery to which I'll add some more. The 1960s were an explosive era of ideas, rock music merged with folk & roots, jazz, country, soul and add acid to the mix and it was boundless creativity. The 1970s put an end to all that with Arena Rock, basically a simple formula that proved successful, there would be no more deviations or new ideas, just the same old donkey n ho shows featuring the greatest guitarist of all time (each band had one). Rebellions against this were happening simultaneously across the globe. In NYC for example you had dozens of bands from across the country, each with their own unique sound and style, no two bands looked or sounded alike and none of them would fit in the mainstream. So, it's not a question of where Punk started, it was happening everywhere and anywhere people wanted to do something out of the mainstream.
Punk began Right and always will be.
@kyfaydfsoab Not too seriously. So did Ska and Rap.
Packed a lot into 18mins. A good documentary.
Why would you do a story about punk and not include The Saints?
sure would be nice to know the names of the people who are talking, some of them are pretty deep historical figures and you miss a lot without the context of knowing how they are
As much as the UK punk bands derided pub rock, many of them descended from that form of DIY music as they did anything being done at the same time in the US. The term 'punk' may be an American word but the underground movement it was to subsequently be labelled was by no means a strictly American invention. If you don't believe me ask John Lydon.
You mean the scene John Lydon only found out about when Malcom Mclaren came back from NYC?
@@pmaigotthat7211 No, I speak of a movement that was already developing on the back of pub rock over here. I thought I'd made that clear?
Talking about Vivian Westwood and I can't remember his name. + Does nobody think Paula Edwards and Bob Geldoff are worth a mention?
no
Many punks in their late 60s now.
And early 60,s 🤘🤘
Rave was also born in the US and thrived in the UK ❤️
And you were too young for it
@@layditms2 you literally have no fucking idea how old I am
I'm an American and I love the Ramones, Heartbreakers and the Stooges and tons more, but I think that the Sex Pistols nmtb is the best punk lp ever. I prefer the stuff across the pond! It may have started here, but English bands were better. The Pistols went after the dawn parliament 😢😂
Their album changed rock n roll for good!
I went to school with a dude named Mike Hunt.
We never got the humor in it.
Wow
Punk needed an image and vivienne and malcolm were instrumental
British Oi! And American Hardcore saved Punk and gave it the kick in the butt it needed.
The winter of discontent and the garbage strikes were after the first wave of UK punk.
When "I'm stranded"- The Saints September 1976 came out, Malcolm McLaren heard it and started to take interest in the Punk seen he soon got the Pistols who were already around in the studio.
@@philcollins4520 what absolute bollocks
This "what country invented punk?" Question is ridiculous, Chaucer's 'Canterbury tales' has many situations and people we would recognise today and call punks and the way it's written has a punk attitude towards to dumbness of life.
So, according to 'the question' Chaucer was an early Proto-Punk, meaning it got its real start in England.
Less about what that drug does to people and more about what hanging around with Thunders and Nolan can do to people.
I always thought Legs McNeil was a dork . The clue is in his name for a start .
The velvet underground were the original punk prototype band and in school in the late seventies uk punk scene pistols stranglers jam x ray spex 999 buzzcockz subway Sect were the best most well known
likeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.. amazing
Just CoooOL,and Out ta da Rage Us,nah! CRANK IT UP!Jcs
UK band "Dr Feelgood" were the original punks, predating the Ramones by 3 years. Also on another, but similar note, white English kids were (what can be described as "breakdancing") in clubs like the Wigan Casino, the Torch in Stoke, and Manchester's, Twisted Wheel, over a decade before Black American Kids took to the streets of New York or LA.
Some of my favorite bands are uk punk, but…
Punk in the UK = there’s still a monarchy.
Nobody can name 4 songs of the clash.😂
White man in Hammersmith palias
London calling
Guns of Brixton
Bank robber.
Possibly the best musical, punk band ever, the clash had everything going and in my eyes would say the most successful, other than the pistols.
Im sure yall know, but that doosh jumpin round in the flag suit at start was guna go on and help create a fkn gr8 band! Its sad that it took him so long to get sorted... genius!
I like very much all the music from the US punk but all these bands were a niche , seen by a small group of people. What the Sex pistols have done to punk they gave it social and politics issues that moved a generation felt doomed. The punk phenomenon raised in Uk and spread all around the world and changed it.
No mention of Ian rubbish and the bizarros?
I wish i did hear some better songs of the punk genre
My life can end if Lydon is knighted. I will have seen everything.
I wouldn't entirely rule it out - I mean if Vivienne Westwood is a 'Dame of the British Empire', and she was one of the ringleaders, after all, in a "Here Sid, this is a brick. That over there is a rozzer (cop). Go and cause some bovver while me and Malc get offside!" kind of way×
Also, as far as I can see, Johnny didn't take the opportunity to pogo on 'Old Liz' ' grave when she passed away a couple weeks back, something some might see as a sell~out but I thought it revealed an element of class.
×A _metaphorical_ brick, of course...
I......don't see that happening. 😆
@@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music But the news of the day everyday tells us anything is possible. ANYTHING.
He tried entering this year's Eurovision... he did butter commercials on TV... took part in the Survivor reality show... immigrated to the US and praised Trump... getting knighted is really close!!!
Does anyone know, the song around 2:16?
What’s my name - The Clash
11:24 can someone please tell me this song I can’t find it anywhere
Where are the punks today standing up for freedom?
We’re all riddled with arthritis or whatever. That’s if we survived the ravages of amphetamines. You want freedom stand up for yourselves, we ain’t your saviours. Listen to Mark P in this video, times have changed but motives of authorities haven’t. There is no authority but yourself. Get off your arse.
They never went away
Note how the majority of band members looked like reasonably respectable everyday people, clothes, haircuts etc. Whereas the """hardcore""" punks out on the Kings etc tried so so hard to look like something out of a technicolour version of Mad Max and spending large sums of money in the process.
Rubbish! Total missed the most iconic moment of PUNK history ever the first punk song every released paving the way for the Brit bands, September 1976 The Saints from Australia "I'm stranded".
Hey John Cooper Clarke… I know a great dentist!
Fantastica. Gracias a Dios por El amor, merced, proteccion, y creaciones y gracias a Dios todo los dias mala o bueno y vayan con Dios a todos y yo en el sangre y nombre de Cristo Jesus Rey de reys amen
Amazing. Thank God for His love, mercy, protection, and creations and thank God during the highs and lows and God bless you and all of us in Jesus Christ’s King of all kings blood that was shed and name we declare and name we pray amen 😊
don't forget The Saints ... Brisbane , Australia
Sad to see Paul Simonon is rapidly going bald,he used to look so great.😅
He`s bloody mid 60s ffsake.I`m 10 years younger than him and my barnet is going fast
@@brianmorecombe2726 I`m 58 and still fully thatched 😁
Abit weird ending?
it’s just a section from a much longer documentary
It's really simple....
Punk only had 2 real 'generations'.
77'- 87'- the originators, founders, the first wave. Started by the Ramones, and other underground acts throughout NYC and LA respectively. Devo brought about the new waveish sounds to punk and it flourished.
Even Goth type bands had their moments with the founding fathers of the punk scene. They went toe to toe with pop rock and disco. In some ways it was the first wave of punk that did away with disco altogether.
Heavy metal was a non factor to the scene during this era. But punk's new wave sounds went mainstream more and more.
'New wave' was the music industry's copy cat scene and it reduced punk's influence to fashion. Acts such as Joan Jett popularized the aesthetic.
This gave way to the more street level and rougher 'Crossover generation' of hardcore punk circa 86'-91'.
The Crossover generation brought the scene back underground, introduced 'sport' (Skateboarding/BMX/Dirt bike) and went up against pop rock, Glam metal and the emerging College-underground.
'Grunge' became the mainstreams copycat scene and an entire industry was built on top of it much to the detriment of the Seattle underground. (Seattle kids loathed it)
During Grunge's popularity, the American hardcore punk scene ceased to thrive. And along came the internet into everyone's home
There wouldn't be a 'third generation' of the underground.
The pistols and the Clash's debuts are the benchmark, followed by the Ramones and the buzzcocks debuts. Anarchy in the UK is the anthem for every generation of UK teenagers.🍻♥️
Rubbish! Total missed the most iconic moment of PUNK history ever the first punk song every released paving the way for the Brit bands, September 1976 The Saints from Australia "I'm stranded".
@@philcollins4520 I had that record!! It's a lot better than the stuff you recorded with genesis and solo🤣🤣🍻the MC5 were also quite punky in their day🤬
The benchmark was always The Stooges and the NY Dolls.
@@EF-fc4du I forgot about them😱yes you are correct, I actually saw Iggy pop at the scala cinema in London about a 100 years ago and they were like nothing I had ever seen before, he was rolling around on the stage in broken glass 😱I kind of forgot how good the music was, and the New York dolls are beyond description 😎 totally original. Take care my friend.
Guns of Brixton ! Pete Shelley RIP 🌹♥️!!!!
Yeah, a lot of people are under the impression that punk started in Britain, partly due to all the publicity surrounding the Sex Pistols and partly due to Lydon's big ego mouth, giving many interviews where he said the Pistols started punk. The very first pure punk (not proto punk) LP was the Ramones debut in April 1976. If you to youtube there is a clip from 1974!! showing the Ramones playing punk at CBGB's. Many people might not know that in 1974, The Saints in Australia were also playing punk.
The Sex Pistols already existed in 1974 too...They were called The Strand and The Swankers in those days,before Johnny joined.
Some people consider the Kinks music to be proto-proto-punk: 'You really got me' (and that was 1964!).
Or The Beatles with 'Helter-Skelter' (1968). :0)
Or The Who with 'My Generation' (1965).
@@mjh5437 Were The Strand and The Swankers playing punk in 1974?
Ironic that Shane was wearing a Union Jack blazer yet regretted not taking an active role in the IRA....
Watching from Greece.hi everybody.
Great video.
PUNKS NOT DEAD.
I wish they mentioned the vibrators.
Funny some generation always feels grumpy and disaffected by the current status quo, and need anger Mgmt instead of a history education and a better education with a college major that can pay the expenses of life. News flash chaos and anarchy builds nothing
Its simple. McClaren saw Richard Hell in n.y & went back to England & copied his look, created the Pistols. The Ramones started the whole thing, 💯
Being a punk 77 to 82 , the first punk band was the Beatles simple as listen to helter skelter
Brit Punk Rock 70's Forever. Sex Pistols the King's of World Punx
they r all fighting over who invented it but i wud say punk started with the kinks and the who