New York's CBGB Birthed The Icons of Punk | History of Punk | Amplified
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- Punk: Attitude is a documentary on the history of punk rock in the U.S.A. and U.K. The film traces the different styles of punk from their roots in '60s garage and psychedelic bands (Count Five, The Stooges) through glam-punk (New York Dolls) to the '70s New York.
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Even though I was a tunnel kid I still managed to go to cbgbs and Max's Kansas City at least 3 times a week between 1977 and 1979. Saw the Dead Boys at least 40 times, Ramones maybe 20 times, nearly every band mentioned plus many not mentioned were on my radar.
Not enough room here for even half my stories but I do have some proof since I can see myself in many photos and videos right at the front of the stage.
I don't get the arguing going on in the comments, if you were lucky enough to be a certain age at a certain time it should be celebrated, shouldn't be trying to one-up each other. We all have our own stories if we were there, and they're all valid if true 😎
I was at a punk rock party in Bpston & the 2 guitarists from the Plasmatics showed up and I got wasted with them until 7am.
Saw the Ramones at cbgb's in 77 and they blew me away. Hard driving I couldn't resist and I was a jazz fan at the time. Interesting era for a college student. Punk sure beat disco for excitement.
Good documentary.I saw live the Ramones twice, Black Flag twice , Plasmatics twice., Fear, & the Cramps.
I saw The Cramps. Most disgraceful performance I have ever seen. It was absolutely fantastic!
I had a subscription to Cream magazine and in this one issue Andy Warhol said, 'The best album I've heard this year is, Talking Heads 77'. That day, I bought it. I loved it. Andy was right.
IGGY AND THE STOOGES
THE CRAMPS
BAUHAUS
JOY DIVISION
and forget The talking heads ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
Andy Warhol was sitting at the table next to mine one night at cbgbs, I believe it was a Steel Tips show. Steel Tips have a video on YT, Crazy Baby is the name of the song, anyway there were 2 artists in the band, Joe Coleman (check out his wiki page) and Patrick McDonald who went on to create the comic and books, Mutts.
My friend was married to the bass player Stanley, the band was mostly from Edison NJ.
CBGB should have been given historic landmark status from NYC.
I felt the same way about that. I went inside that place when it later became a high-end value clothing store that would sell ripped pants for $150, but call it the punk look still. I walked out with a tear in my eye thinking the same thing: If they only just turned it into a museum with wax figurines of the first bands that started and founded punk there. THAT, in my opinion, would have been the greatest tribute and memorial.
I thought they did give it Landmark status.
Max’s Kansas City was just as important to the birth of NYC music scene as CBGBs.
and the Mudd club. But yea Max's were there first
But CBGB's has a logo!😂
Also mother's, trash and vaudeville and countless others
What's a mud club?
@@th1agu lol logo's are what sells haha
I heard my first punk rock song on kxlu FM here in Los angeles. My mind was blown and it changed my entire life! I mean seriously changed my life!
I've always felt like the Detroit area started punk...The Stooges, MC5...Death....All influenced their predecessors...
I think Detroit is very undervalued for all kinds of music. Sure there was Motown but many hard edged bands came from Detroit or became really popular playing in Detroit. MC5 in my opinion was way ahead of what became punk in New York. Detroit embraced a lot of bands from outside. Just think Kiss in the early days getting major play in Detroit and then writing Detroit Rock City as a tribute. The J. Geils Band said Detroit was like their second home because of the support they received playing there. I know I'm not talking about punk but Detroit was either a launching point for new bands or the straw that stirred the drink for up and coming bands and Detroit should be recognized for its place in rock history.
Very lucky to say I played there frequently in the 2000s right up to the close🥲. Remember watching the Toasters and looking over and who’s standing right next to me. Mr. Gotta Look Sharp himself, Joe Jackson! I just stayed shut and enjoyed the moment. So many wonder surprises at Cb’s……..especially that famous bathroom lol!
Once I discovered Iggy and the Stooges as a teenager they opened me up to so many great bands that as a brittish kid I wasn't all to familiar with. I mean I was brought up on the Dammed, Sex pistols and The Buzzcocks but I never paid as much attention to where it all started. For me the LAMF album turned me into an obsessed Johnny thunders fan that wanted to know everything about him and the bands he played in. I never get bored of documentary films of how Punk Rock came to be.
Hi, I made the same experience. I got the original Raw Power in 1973. Highly impressive and incredibly beautiful, still today. Unbeatable. My eternal number one, followed by the New York Dolls, Flamin' Groovies, The Frost. First Ramones-LP a real killer. Enjoy your life!
@@connystardust9957 Thanks man. You have excellent taste in music. I love the flamin groovies myself and love anything to do with the Dolls. Take care bro.
"Dammed, Sex pistols and The Buzzcocks but I never paid as much attention to where it all started." That's because those bands had nothing to do with New York. And Iggy, yes, he was big to the British scene, but he was from Michigan.
@@ejtattersall156 He was big to every scene. The stinky toys from France The Saints from Australia. I love it all. Iggy and the stooges and the mc5 were idols to every punk band that started. Be that in the states or europe.
@@iamthewalruscuckookachoo1372 Iggy, yes, MC5, no. Iggy was huge in Britain, that's for sure. So was the Velvet Underground. I never heard anyone in the Pistols Clash or Damned bring up MC5. Johnny did No Fun by Iggy and Roadrunner by Modern Lovers. Never a word about MC5. MC5 were really heavy hippie music, and was really not the sort of thing people listened to. I think later on their influence was exaggerated.
Man, Johnny Thunders was the coolest cat around there ever so briefly ...
Yes he was he even had Steven Tylors girlfriend for awhile. I read it in the Please kill me book written by leggs McNeill. He was very talented it's a shame how he met his demise.
Yeah I like heartbreakers the most then dolls and his solo stuff he was so cute in the dolls though 😍
Interesting. I was introduced to what I thought of as early punk (sex pistols, social distortion, black flag, the misfits etc) but didn’t realize it started out a lot earlier than all that.
Check out the album "The Stooges" from 1968. Iggy Stooge as he was known then and The Ashton brothers released what is considered to be the first punk rock album. The term punk rock came from a bad review that the album got from a journalist from the psychedelic flower power 60's.
In 1979 I got up onstage at CBGB as an announcer for my NY friends awful band. Never saw any of the famous acts there as most had moved on, though backstage there were still stamps on the walls: “You’ve Been Arrested by the Police”. Two years later backstage at the Paladium got pictures of David Johansen with his friend Joe Perry.
Even though it maybe wasn't in its prime, our band from Cincinnati , The Drumbones, played at CBGB's the week before Christmas, 1985.
I was a punk in the 70s and 80s, and I wish with all my heart I had gone to NYC.
i love Punk Attitude the Don Letts documentary...they cud have included a few other scenes that happened in other countries...here in Melbourne, Australia we had a cool punk/post punk scene that gave Nick Cave and The Birthday Party onto the Bad Seeds, The Saints, Radio Birdman, Go Betweens, Triffids and on and on....
YOU ARE A CROCODILE DUNDEE ... you might listen to COSMIC PSYCHOS
😀😀😀😀😀
Bad Brains-Unforgettable !!!
This was a great video! Growing up in the late 70’s/early 80’s listening to Punk was not mainstream for sure. You almost had to listen it to it
“underground”. Living in Canada we cut our teeth on bands like The Forgotten Rebels, The Diodes and DOA to name a few. I was fortunate to see a concert at CBGB’s before it closed down in the mid 80’s. I saw China Crisis there. I’m in my mid 50’s now and still wear my Doc’s. Oi Oi Oi.
I went to a few CBGB shows in the mid 2000s. That's the last time New York punk really felt like a scene in my opinion. This is fantastic
I was a raving fan of the Ramones, back in the 1970s- galvanizing music! That said, just read a biography on the Ramones, written by one of the Johnny Ramone. It had some sobering facts.
1. Joey was a manic-depressive with a lot of clinically weird manias
2. Dee Dee Ramone, who wrote most of the songs, was hooked on drugs and died young because of same
3. Marky Ramone was deeply alcoholic and was fired because of it
So, if the music was that good (and it is), did it require that the band members be that mentally disturbed? Makes a person think.
Wow, quite a few ghosts in this documentary. RIP to all.
Yeah, seeing Kane and Sylvain Sylvain interviewed together was great!
Went to CBGB’s in 2003 and have some AMAZING pictures of the inside… saw New York Dolls with Kiss and Motley Crue at Pine Knob in ‘12… love this… I should add I’m only 39
So freakin' amazing where the influences later on for The Rolling Stones Mick Jagger and The Ramones both singing tones came from The New York Dolls. Creepy how it all sounds alike now, but it's awesome.
This Clip is from the film Punk:Attitude .
I cannot believe this video just ended that way mid sentence
N.Y. Dolls at the whistle test is still very LETHAL...it's KILLER ! 📢🎼🎵🎶🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🖖👍🤙🏻
I miss hanging out at CBGBS !!! Philadelphia USA
It must have been nice.
I need to look into the history of this bar. I thought it was out of business in the eighties. Here in Missoula, MT we had a "punk" bar called Jay's Upstairs. It was a tiny little room above Jay's Bar, and oh my god it was loud. It kind of started out as a practice space for rock cover bands that played at other venues. Robin Dent, the manager, decided she was only going to book bands that played original music. The scene just basically made itself.
1980 in a small town south of Atlanta I met one of the coolest kids who had just moved there from California. God rest his sole he was not long to this world, but his punk rock and new wave influences totally shaped the soft young malleable minds of that town. Len Todd you were the GOAT and I truly miss your fun loving free spirit. 😮
This is really cool
Many were alive and well still looking fabulous when this was put together.
My God it hurts growing old
Cannot believe David is the only Living Doll... stay with us David Jo
This video is just a section from Don Letts Punk Attitude documentary.
Man 73-78 might be the absolute peak of rock. Some of the most influential music came out in those 5 years, from glam to punk I think overall New York was the most important scene and that 5 year run is the most important 5 years in rock history.
Awesome! Thank you!
Until you discover the Stoogies. Your not looking for the First so called punk music. Try 1969 By the Stoogies. Ann Arbor based band. Detroit Grit 🇺🇸
the Stoogies?
You mean the stooges right?
Until you discover the Who circa '65-'67 then you ain't got the whole Picture, friends . Thank me Later 😎👍
The Three Stoogied woob woob woob woob
@@hankworden3850 heyy What's the Big Idea ❓ whadaya a Wise Guy o sumpin'
My band The Klitz played there in August 1979🎸 long live CBGB'S 🧷
would love to see a feature length doc about this scene
this is all from the feature length documentary 'punk: attitude'
@@mj.l oh neat, thanks!
There's an excellent film about CBGB's based on Hilly Krystal's memoir, I believe. Really great. Not a documentary, but feels close to the truth.
Oh how I loved Television
Yeah my favorite
On my honeymoon September of 82… Virginia Beach.. We walk into a bar , the Rocks I think..with about 13 total people in it.. I grab a drink at the bar and the band comes out on stage… it’s David Johansson… he could’ve given a shitty performance since it was so dead… instead he and his band blew my socks off.. it was what a consummate professional would do.. I swear he was playing for me.. thank you David!!
The band that made arena rock look damn silly. Sad that they didn't all realize that they were the kings of early proto-Punk. You had the Velvet Underground, Iggy & the Stooges, and the NY Dolls. Even early Alice Cooper were related. It was a small scene that never thrived at the time, but left an awesome scar!
Remember going to New York 96, the only place I wanted to go was CGgb's..got there was stoked.saw band, no idea who..was not the point..it was a real s hole..you could feel the history ,smell it..brilliant
These guys are so New York City!
Watching from Greece.hi everybody.
Great video.
PUNKS NOT DEAD.
RIP Arthur
Weird! David Johansen doing a Mick Jagger impersonation started punk or was it Iggy Pop impersonating Jim Morrison?
Just a kid from 99’s but love 70’s era, specially the ramones was my fav band and shoutout to new york dolls , jhonny thunders and the heartbreaker also the clash 🔥
70's kids are the 90's generation
Awesomeness ❤️
MUY BUENO!!!
The Country Blue Grass Bar!
Thanks
CBGB was integral--that's beyond dispute. But Suicide (the first group to self-identify as punk) and Wayne County were performing at the Mercer Arts Center before CB's had even opened.
What is funny is that even the ramones didn't call themselves punk. They didn't like that label.
And The Sonics and Los Saicos were performing anywhere from 1960 to 1964…before any of these bands were even a dream.
@@MrJett1971 1965, just like several other garage bands around the world.
Back in the day in 1978 we listened wxrt in chicago punk rock was really under ground I love a lot of these tunes .✌️🤘😎
I was a bit too young to get to see the Dolls live, but as soon as I could, I'd take the train into the city, find my way down to the Bowery and get myself into CBGBs - I was 14, but they didn't seem to mind. All those Ramones clips? The kid you don't see at the foot of the stage was me...
Perhaps the above story is true. But I’m sure the amount of people who said they saw The Ramones at CBGBs could fill MSG when I’ve heard CB’s could hold 200 if they squished them in like sardines.
@@ASM881 The Ramones played there are lot. A lot. I saw them at least three times there (and a couple dozen times elsewhere). There's nothing to be jealous about, I just happened to be in the right place at the right time. I'm sure you've done interesting things in your own life. Öh, and I went to a bunch of concerts at MSG too.
@@M_C79 that was a beautiful response MC. Clearly I am envious of your experiences and I admit that I have mythologized that era of NY history within the leviathan of my own mind. I love The Ramones. I think that they created a wonderful legacy and I am very sorry that I missed them play Vancouver at the end of their career when I was old enough to see them. It’s nice to hear from thoughtful and mature people in a TH-cam comment section. You are a Unicorn in the TH-cam world. Cheers, from Vancouver.
@@ASM881 Funny, I stopped listening to the Ramones after Road to Ruin. Still a huge Suicide and Television fan though.
I forgot Jerry Nolan always played pink drums
Played at both Max's and CB 4 or 5 times in the early 80's with various bands. CB was tiny and Max's medium. Dressing rooms in both had a flophouse bathroom vibe. CB was much better because it was ground floor. Schlepping drums and amps up Max's stairs was a killer.
CBGB was bigger than Max's
Something very French about television I'm not sure what it was.....
Couldn't have been the French lyrics or Arthur rimbaud references or anything like that I just I don't know they were so French!
Hahaha. And Tom Miller renaming himself Tom Verlaine. Still. I can’t figure out why they seem French. 😆
The New YorK DollS did not play at CBGB. The one who did play was Johnny Thunders but with the Heartbreakers once they separated, the already named NYD. I tell you this for your group from the beginning and the title of your video ☺😉
Yes, they did. Saw their "farewell concert" in 1977. They came on a little late. Johansen announced last call (4AM) before the first song.
Got my CBGB’s tee on right now. 🤓
Ah, yes, CBGBs. I actually sang in that club with my brother's band. They played there twice; once as opening act for The Dictators; once to open for The Ramones. I can't quite remember which show it was, but after one of them, I went out front and peed into the gutter right in front of the club. I just discovered a few minutes ago that Bon Scott once did the same thing; ahh, not at the same time, of course.
i did a giant rail off the bar on the right in its final days of closing
Better than the back of the toilet, cheers.
Very interesting but I prefer the LA bands: X, Circle Jerks, Black Flag, Los Lobos, The Blasters, Social Distortion. But love the Ramones. Saw them numerous times. Just the best of all time.
I was a Dead boys fan. Sonic reducer. Classic stuff.
One of my fondest memories was from a time I saw the Dead Boys play in a shitty dive bar out in the middle of nowhere NJ. I was hanging out outside when the guitarist came out to take a leak against a tree. Except he was so wasted, he couldn't. So his girlfriend helped him out by aiming for him. "That," my 15-year-old self said to himself, "is what true love is." I was also there for the Dead Boys' New Years Eve show at the CBGB Theater - we trashed the place!
@@M_C79 Kind of sounds like a perfect Dead Boys show. That is an amazing memory to have. I wasn't geographically advantaged when growing up so my opportunities to see live acts was negatively impacted. Needless to say, all my Dead Boys vinyl were imports. My mother was really pissed at a 16 year old me when she found my copy of Sonic Reducer in my bedroom in 1979 rural Saskatchewan. Mind you, she completely lost her shit when she found my McLean and McLean album "Bitter Reality" that same year, 1979.
Interesting documentary, but it misses out on one of the main protagonists in the shaping of the early Punk and Underground sound and that was John Cale. Not only was he the main architect of the Velvets then revolutionary sound, but he also produced the debut albums by The Stooges, Patti Smith and The Modern Lovers. Furthermore he produced (the latter two) and arranged Nico's lp triology The Marble Index (1968), Desertshore (1970) and The End (1974), laying the foundations of what was later to become Postpunk and Goth.
I can't think of anybody else being so influential on the future sounds to come. Yet his role as a musical pioneer and influence are still so overlooked, it beggers belief. Possibly only when he eventually dies someday (may that be far in the future), will his story be retold and he'll be credited as one of the real Godfathers of Punk and Alternative music. Without his musical genius the music we all love would sound so much different.
Television rules.
dude at 1:20 was so freaky almost shit my pants
While most punk bands in the 70s were menacing, the Ramones were oddly loveable. Sweet guys trying to be tough & nobody buying it. ❤
Rock n Roll baby
The album bloodbrothers by the dictators is classic punk
I loved their song "Next Big Thing". They were great. In the early 2000's Handsome Dick Manitoba owned a bar in Alphabet City on the lower east side which I visited and had him autograph my Dictators CD. Great memories.
@@supergristmill6195 I liked his solo album. Manitobas wild kingdom. The party starts now is a great tune
@@cjg8604 I forgot he released a solo album. Thanks for the info on it cuz now I'm going to look for it.
Is the dwarf from game of thrones a rockstar? I never knew that !!
I gave Richard Hell advice when he was in high school,that to get anywhere with his band they'd have to move to nyc to get discovered 1975-76 and gave him the name Television,and his tag line"Love comes in Spurts".He married Patty Smyth.1987 I ghostwrote Patty Smyth a whole album.It came out 1992.1995 Ramones played w firecrackers at Delaware club Stone Balloon.I told them I was ghostwriting Private Parts movie for Howard & told them they have "carte Blanche" on Stern show & tell him you want to be in his movie.
Your a Liar
@@samthunders3611 Richard Hell & the Voidoids/Love Comes in Spurts.
@@samthunders3611 McKean high school Dlaware is where he met up with the Television band.
The Dolls ended my interest in Classic rock the first minute I heard them.
David Johansen looks like a punk Joe E. Brown.
Boy, the Dolls are really full of themselves.
They were awesome
No one harder than the dolls in 70’s scene
How? Because they know they broke barriers at the time?
Maybe the NY Dolls were full of themselves, but they had the songs to back it up. David Johansen was a major league Rock'n Roll songwriter.
@@stuartfishman1044 Heck Yeah!!!. Had they been more famous then it's OK to be a bit full of oneself? Jo was only saying that at first glance he didn't realise the worth of the Ramones. Thats a valid and honest statement.
When I heard the early Punk bands who covered the Stooges, I had to go to the source and listen to who actually influenced Punk, The Stooges.
Well... NY punk was a whole lot more than just the Stooges, but yes, the Stooges was important (if only for Danny Fields). Don't forget the MC5!
@@M_C79 The New York scene was long hair hippies who couldn’t play their instruments all that well.
Punk was never really big in the USA , but for 2 years in the UK 76/77 punk was massive but then sold out to the safer more lucrative New Wave. A lot of the original punks died from Heroin as this drug really took off on the UK punk scene.
It was big in Southern California in the late 70s-early 80s. I don't live there anymore but when I visit I can still see the influence.
It was big, in Cali and NY and areas in Washington , Chicago. Heck look at Seattle, where the influence of punk created grunge music
@@stevecarey2030 Now is lameass imitators
Please no comments cause you will loose ! I'm delco to the core a real punk but keep it up it's just about having fun oh Patti Smith has delco roots also .
All the popular music of today came from the 1970's New York Detroit and England. Hip hop, electronic dance, punk, and metal
I think the Kinks started it all.
The Misfits are Punk and played often in Max's. I think you have to talk about that if you want to show the History or Birth of Punk Rock.
So many talk so much nonsense concerning the times, band like The Stooges, Hawkwind, Black Sabbath, Slade, T. Rex, etc, never get the credit they deserve. Although The Ramones were always honest enough to state them as influences. There was a media backlash, and many later "punks" rejected the actual history of what led to 70's "Punk" which has its roots firmly in the late 50's. People like John Lydon became so egotistical to think they invented it all from scratch. It's so petty. For most of us, "Punk" was natural, it's what we were before there was a music scene.
Black sabbath?
@@dariiofernando Gawd this Anime Shit
Glen Branca looks like Nick Kent
Luigi at 9:00
My dude
❤
Listen to early Hawkwind ....The spitting, anarchistic raw punk was born in the UK...
The dolls were the best dressed band ever
NYC attracts better Artists than it produces. Bohemian privilege by association.
Where do you put Vivienne Westwood and Malcolm McLaren on the history of punk?
The world misses Sylvain Sylvain!
Max's birthed Punk not CBGB. They came onto the scene after Max's Kansas City. Other imp small venues like the forgotten Mother's, 171A and TR3 were vital. CBGB gets all the attention tho from those who prob weren't around during these pivotal times for Punk developing in NYC.
Punk US style was just hard glam rock, bands who chose their live clothing carefully, got their hair seen to, and producers who, at least these days, go on about the """meaning""" of it all and how profound things were etc. In the UK it was a flash in the pan, it was a piss take and only the fashion houses made any money, and maybe Malcolm McClaren!.
In the UK it was spontaneous, rough and ready, in the US the scene had a contrived and image conscious feel to it. When it was over here in the UK a very few bands survived and went on to change their style pretty rapidly because punk just `stopped` it didnt fade away. I have in mind The Police, The Damned and The Clash. The Stranglers were never a punk outfit. They had too much talent. Siouxsi too.
CBGB did not birth punk, try a few blocks north at Max's
You are correct and it's the Velvet Under ground in 1967 at Max's
@@arthurdalton517lmao everything is punk rock now somehow. NUH uh it started with Screaming J Hawkins or some other bullshit 🙄 shut up
RAMONES!!
That $20 wig almost looks like real nylon!🤣🤣🤣
Same footage as ‘Punk: Attitude’ (2003)
Syd Barrett was one of the great pre-punk innovators but never gets credited.
Agree, sad story there.
So were The Seeds w/ Pushin Too Hard.
Anyone remember Teenage Head & Forgotten Rebels?
Stooges ….. NY Dolls …MC 5.,,,,,,,,,,,,😞
All the Punk bands had previously met , in the Mercer Arts Center ( Which actually collapsed from the too loud sound )
NY Dolls The Planets Eric Emerson’s Magic Tramps. Modern Lovers
Groups spawned from these ;
Blondie
Talking Heads
Patti Smith Group
Heartbreakers
Elda Stilleto
( ln Audience were Tom Verlaine & Richard Hell .,… Both ‘ Dolls fans )
You have to consult one of those band genealogy charts .
Thunders forever
@11:35 - Why show Tommy Ramone being interviewed, then a clip with Marky on drums?
PATTI SMITH
you a skreemen ballarena on a spring afternoon
Pretty funny him announcing that the Dictators were first in 74. Fine with that but, what's funny is what do they show them playing but an Iggy Pop song from about 6 years earlier! Good choice.
The Saints invented punk...
Don letts rules