Just decided to buy my own ball and shoes and get a bit more serious. This is the best video I've found so far and I think it's great how motivating this coach is!
Howdie USBC; my name is Steven Whitehouse. I am a disabled athlete. And started this past Monday I began practicing bowling with the Manchester Alley Cats of Manchester, NH at Spare Time in Manchester, NH. I will be watching these videos to improve everything about the way I bowl. In my first ever practice game with the Team. I scored a 163 (in 2 games). 93 for game 1, that i includes 2 spares. In game 2 my score was lower It was 70 with 1 strike. for a total of 163 (2 games). I will be practicing with the Manchester Alley Cats for the next (8 Mondays). The tournament is Saturday, November 18, 2017 at 1pm also at Spare Time in Manchester, NH. So I want to say thank you for these teaching videos. As I said, I will be watching them everyday so that I can improve my game.
I was watching other bowlers recently to get an idea on how to bowl properly but I realized everybody is different. Everybody has their own style. So once I found what was comfortable for me I started bowling a much better game.
My timing is something I've had to work on a lot. I would always get up to the line and the ball would still have a ways to go before release, so this is helpful to have. I'm getting way more serious about form and timing and stepped it up with a better ball. I ended up getting a really good app someone recommended to me so when I go bowling with my partner he can catch in slow mo how my form is. Practice makes perfect!
Notice how he holds the ball higher for the slower throw and lower for the faster throw. Like he said it’s a matter of matching up the upper body and the lower body for optimal timing, but he wasn’t the best on explaining how. When you want to throw faster, you want to change speed with your legs because it’s more consistent to walk faster than to throw harder, and the that’s same with throwing slower because it’s hard to maintain consistent muscle tension everytime, and you want to be able to repeat shots and adjust. The old theory was that holding the ball higher for more swing would be more consistent. New theory is that if you want to throw the ball faster, stand farther back because you will naturally have larger/faster strides to get to the foul line, but you also want the upper body to match that timing. To do so when throwing faster, hold the ball lower since holding it higher or the same will cause the ball to be behind your feet and late since you’re walking faster. When wanting to throw slower, stand farther up to naturally slow your approach to the foul line and hold the ball higher because you will take longer to approach the foul line. If you don’t hold it higher, you might end up being too early in timing and having your ball in front of your feet when you reach the foul line. Also, you want to make adjustments holding the ball higher or lower by 6in. It is also the best to move back and forth by one foot length at a time.
Thanks! We don't know who any of these commentators are, but DamonHo makes sense. Hope I can find your comment again when I get frustrated. (Am a novice, but need an easy swing...am 70 years old and want to join a league for fun.)
Love this video I was self taught bowler this helped me I was a 147 average bowler now I’m a 216 average bowler. It is about being patient and practice learn it and breath it take it one frame at a time
Yep.. excellent info. I started bowing this week. but I figured I need some training. I love going to bowl. It's so much fun for me but I seem to hit and miss on the strike thing.
I keep coming back. I have great days and then it seems I forget how to Bowl. I am desperately trying to learn so when I can be consistent in how I bowl.
Low ball has less potential energy, so in order to have it swung higher, you need to pull it hard thru the bottom of the swing arc. What would happen, had you low ball and slow feet? Let me tell you. It wouldn’t swing and rise any higher than the initial push in the beginning, if you didn’t pull it hard. Far easier just to let the ball momentum work in favor for your high back swing. Back swing as high as the initial height at the start and let it swing freely.
Watching tons of videos where people are saying to relax and let gravity move the ball then have huge back swings and low push aways. In this video they talk about slowing down the ball speed and having a high back swing. That has to be done pulling the ball back. Coached are either skipping a piece of their coaching explanation, aren't being truthful, or have found a method to deny laws of physics
@@sven8633 , I think quite a number of coaches in many sports has only the sports spesific jargon to rely on and their own experience. Being a top athlete doesn’t spell understanding all the physical basics, why things happen, but echoing the phrases being said and in relation to their own execution.
I'm confused because coaches usually teach letting the ball swing the arm (pendulum feel) to get a smoother swing, which is a great tip. I would think that holding your ball higher in the pushaway would cause a longer higher backswing and and a lower start position to shorten it. It seems to work that way for me when I raise or lower the balls starting position. 🤔
I found this video very helpful because it was just giving a simple technique and breakdown of how to hook a bowling ball so I try using the football and putting my hand under the ball to make it spin and I was throwing it into the couch and sure enough when I went to the bowling lane to try to hook the bowling ball that technique work for me. Thank you very much. #PEACE✌🏾
Giving a nod to Coaches Ross and Borden in doing a great job in moving the sport of bowling back to legitimacy, I have to say it may be more helpful to some bowlers to have you experts develop and use a formal descriptive vocabulary. References to "high backswing" relative holding the ball "lower" for example is hard to mentally visualize without a good reference point. Yeah, I know he says "about waist high," but without an understanding of any relationship to high or low, people can get lost rather quickly. The same applies to folks using o'clock references to hand release positions without explaining the orientation or perspective. IMHO Bowling is a physical sport. The approach to using hard science that you guys bring is appreciated. The physics of launch and entry angles, rotation, axis tilt, velocity and data collection need to be supplemented with anatomy, physiology and kinesiology and presented in a uniform way that makes sense to folks looking to improve their game. Speaking in terms of crankers, strokers and tweeners doesn't help without a proper way to describe what those terms mean.
HRYBCA : Very good points made. Proper use of terminologies and explanations of the science of bowling has always been a problem . There's many ideologies, approaches and techniques to an ever changing game. It can be quite confusing for a beginner or someone seeking advice.
I’m not very good with ball comparisons but I do have a question or anyone that is good with this. I have a Motive Talon and I’m really looking to get something with more backend. I have more of a tweener style so I know I wouldn’t get as much hook as a cranked/two-handed. My question is what are some of the best balls out there for high backend hook?
I have a Motiv Rouge Blade. It has a very strong hook on the backend of the lane. I recommend it especially if you have a sort of tweener style. I’m a young two handler that is transitioning to a one handed tweener style as well. I definitely don’t use that ball for two handed though... it goes dead straight, hooks a bit then reacts extremely aggressively as soon as it leaves the oil... this is why I’m not using two hands anymore.😂
Hello and thanks for the question. Changing the surface of your bowling ball can get you the desired result with out purchasing a new ball. www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/making-adjustments-to-the-surface-of-your-bowling-equipment-005550/ Comparing weaker and stronger bowling balls and knowing the differences is key to understanding what you need in your bag. Check out this video from our coaches to learn the difference. www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/picking-the-best-bowling-balls-for-your-arsenal-009311/ Thanks for watching!
Im laying here late at night, all alone, and I can't figure out if I should crank or stroke? Where is the best spot for me to position ball during my stroke/crank? What speed to I go? So many questions.
Here's several ideas for playing better cricket : Allow enough time. Use internet guides. Practise with severl people and ask for their opinions. (I discovered about these and more from Mackynzie cricket system site )
hit the head pin at a 6 degree angle at 17 mph or 27.3 kph. you should choose a style that is the most comfortable for your body. ball should be held just above the waist, below the shoulders. you should walk at a natural pace.
I didn't find this very helpful, except for the revelation that early timing leads to a drop, late timing to a hang-up which in 50 years of playing I hadn't grasped. However, some more tips about how to adjust your timing when it is off would be good.
Me either.I thought the "misnomer" was Borden saying holding the ball lower gives you a higher backswing?That's impossible without forcing the ball into the swing.Which is exactly what I was taught NOT to do.I'm "old school"A "stroker".The arm swing is supposed to be loose,natural and unforced.But not in todays game.Not the way these guys teach it.It's all about dropping the shoulder and opening up the shoulder to create that high,forced back swing and revving the shit out of the ball.Wish I was 20 and just learning. :- (
Jeff Bear Jeff, you're right that it probably doesn't make much sense if you think about it in terms of old school bowling. This video is VERY good at showing how ball positions relates to swing height. You're right about one thing, if you hold the ball low and you create a highbackswing, there is some muscle involved. What they don't explain in this video is how as little muscle as POSSIBLE is used to create that high backswing, and then on the way down there is NO MUSCLE USED. That's the key. Once the downswing starts, the best players let gravity bring it down. I can guarantee that bowlers who have high backswings and use muscle on the way down are not as consistent. This method also relates a lot to spine angles, which is really important for staying consistent and balanced throughout the approach. Imagine having a high ball position to start AND a high backswing. It would be very unnatural in a lot of ways. Hope this helps a bit. :)
***** I've tried to open the shoulder and have a higher backswing.I'm too old and can't do it now.If I was 20 and just learning it'd be another story.Physically I'm struggling because of weight gain.And some issues that causes are making me struggle really bad right now.
If your body doesn't let you do it, there's no sense fighting it. There are many bowlers so have small, compact games that are very successful. Guys like Brian Voss, Norm Duke and Doug Kent are guys you should look at for hints on what do with your game. They all do the basics incredibly well and don't necessarily do anything 'fancy" with their swing. I hope that helps and I hope your game improves!
@2:00, i wish they werent called strokers only because Mr Italian on the left likesa ta talka witha his handsa. Seriously though, thank you for explaining all this stuff to a straight roller.
Amazing everything you talk about is me. No one has ever said what is your timing what is good to you not what is the person that is trying to help you
I wish I could get a personal lesson from Fred Borden but I live in the Philadelphia area. Can you recommend someone reputable in the Philly area that I could go to? I did spend 5 days at the Dick Ritger bowling camp in 1999 and have held on to some of what I've learned, most importantly that an unusual 5-3 delivery works best for me. I'm now 66 years, have a 205 avg, and would like to have someone that knows what they are doing to help hone my skills for me.
Got a big problem, I bought a Revolver ball, but it doesn't revs at all, Does that mean its drilled wrong? I'm a lefty medium 13-14 mph throw. The proshop that drills it wont even listen..What can I do?
+Erwin Ocampo depends on how you throw it. If the ball has at least a few revolutions with axis tilt, it should hook. Could be the condition you're on as well. If not, then I'd say the pro shop is bad.
+Joe Netzel not a single rev, I have inferno and hammer and just fine i get revs, its just this new ball is pretty bad. complaint on the proshop and says it has nothing to do with them, I showed comparisson on balls that I have thats drilled by other shop works fine, they wont reimburse or replace my ball ugh!!
+Scott Johnson Thanks for the reply its verified it was faulty drill. I was setup the wrong bowler hand I am lefty and got drilled righty specs. Its sucks that he wont pay me back on my ball.
what would you suggest for something to do who bowls in a wheelchair? when Mr. Borden said "match your feet speed with your swing speed" is something i just dont do since i am a wheelchair bowler.
Super terrific video! This coach Borden is an expert. I had to replay sections of the video repeatedly on each style to be able to grasp all of the detail of his explanation. Readjusting my timing has been my most major and critical task recently. It has produced surprisingly great results but lack of understanding what I am been doing has prevented me from locking in on the proper form. This video helped me to understand what actions produces which results and given me more confidence in my direction. Anxious to get back on the lanes to put this learning to use. Thanks coach! Hope you got more videos out here on You Tube. I be looking for them.
Were can I get my ball done Right I have one right hip it was broken too times and I would like to know how to get a better ball dill my ball the right way i go too is their ball to get i had a 198 now i have a 133 this year i would like to be able to get a better ball to be better at this time play better games and get better so i can get better and more 300 or better games like a 800 or a 900 game but i would like to get a better ball or something different like new shoes for me my left side is the way it same level is the not the same as my left side so when I get a better ball
Jonathan Kent - Have some respect! Jamie is the only person on Earth working on bowling a 900 game. Now I don't know about you, but I would like to see that.
well work on your English first before you think about doing a difficult sport such as bowling please or else your gonna trip all over your feet like you are with your words😂
Hi Terry. There are different styles of hook and learning to curve the ball can be a great experience. The Bowling Academy has videos to help learn how to hook a ball. Here are a few links to videos about hooking the ball.8 Tips for a Better Bowling Release | USBC Bowling Academy (www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/8-tips-better-release-015225/)Release Drills for a Better Bowling Finish Position | USBC (www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/release-drills-for-a-better-bowling-finish-position-009336/)Discover Bowling Release Styles - Bowling Training Video (www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/versions-of-the-bowling-release-005673/)Perfecting The Bowling Release: Thumb Positioning - USBC (www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/the-bowling-release-thumb-positioning-005834/)Bowling Ball Release Tips | USBC Bowling Academy Video (www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/ball-release-005531/)Bowling Approach Steps For A Proper Release | USBC (www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/proper-bowling-approach-steps-009284/)Optimum Release Techniques (www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/optimum-release-techniques-011481/)Bowling Release Tips for Consistency and Increasing Average (www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/bowling-release-tips-to-provide-consistency-and-increase-your-average-005558/)It may be easier to have a certified coach on hand to help with your specific needs. Look for a certified coach to help work with your game specifically. Visit www.bowl.com and use the “Find a…” tab (top right of the page) to locate a coach. Enter your zip code and a radius then click “search.” To locate a certified pro shop operator in your area use the IBPSIA website and search using your zip code. Here’s their address www.ibpsia.com/go/find_shop/type/shop/by_state.Thanks for continuing with the Bowling Academy.
He moved his ball up and down in his set up.....but I find it interesting that they did not note how he moved his feet back and forth on the approach when he changed up the other things too. You can see it from the side view.
I have my hand and looks like what's to bowling ball hold on it and dose not keep my hands straight I need to help someone to keep My hands straight what should I do when i'am bowling
Great Bowling Tips - Thank You For This Valuable Information. We Have Tips Too. and Will Be Share and Posting Your Videos On Our Fanpage and Websites and Blogs!
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The first, Gregs(?) first shot was in time, but the examples are really out of timing. Low position at start would be in time with low back swing, were it neutral. Low start, high back is manipulating. Look at his steps and acceleration on the approach. He actually halts in between the acceleration phase of the approach to wait for the ball to enter the correct timing spot of his swing. Understanding, the mid approach timing check-point would benefit the mannekin as well as any bowler from beginner to major winner. The old person talking the video thru is really nobody to teach people how to swing a bowling ball. He is an expert on throwing the ball, but obviously doesn’t understand the basic physics of moving a heavy object.
Anybody, how do you get a high backswing holding the ball low in the setup. I like to hold the ball low but I have a low back swing. I have to drop the ball from waist height or higher to get a high backswing Can anyone help? One last thing, surely the top priority in bowling must be accuracy, you never get many videos on how to actually aim the ball. How do you aim ?
Hello,The solution to your low back swing woes is to open your hand up while the ball is in the back swing.Your thumb should go into a position that will point up at the ceiling when you are at the top of your backswing. So from your starting position, your hand will begin to move as you are entering your push away completing the turn at the top of your backswing. Now that you have a higher backswing it is imperative to not try and muscle the shot from the peak of the back swing down.Check out this video for backswing tips.www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/proper-bowling-arm-swing-005529/ Thanks for watching!
AT 6:27 . ONLY 1 THING WRONG IN THIS VIDEO. A "MISNOMER" IS THE WRONG "NAME" FOR SOMETHING; e.g., "ROBBED" THE HOUSE VS. "BURGLARIZED" THE HOUSE. A MISNOMER IS NOT THE WRONG IDEA OR CONCEPTION. MISNOMER LITERALLY MEANS "BAD NAME".
What's missing from this video is very crucial - his starting position. The faster he wants to throw it, the further back on the approach is his starting position. That is key aside from the ball placement in his starting stance. Good vid nonetheless.
@ 250 RPM I've always tried to square my shoulders up to the foul line upon release. Is this why my revs have stayed low? And is that why my track seems to my straighter?
Hi Jonathan. Here are five video’s you should find helpful. Thanks for watching! www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/proper-bowling-arm-swing-005529/ www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/bowling-release-tips-to-provide-consistency-and-increase-your-average-005558/ www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/launch-angle-bowling-tips-007622/ www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/bowling-ball-types-track-identification-005790/ www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/tracking-bowler-statistics-simple-tools-012573/ Thanks!
Bro I slide too much and I tried the wire brush. I'm only 155 pounds so need more stopping power. I've tried all the different soles on my s2 and it's too much slide. Should I try sneakers? Lol
I dont bowl 1 handed i bowl 2 handed like jason belmonte this helped me a lot i used to hold it higher i didnt do as good as when i started holding it lower i have been doing better
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I took a couple of lessons from the pro who was very adamant that I only use 4 steps, and to use that to gauge how far back from the line I should be when I start my run up to the release point. He also taught be that the steps should all have the same timing. This meant that I do a mental countdown while taking them.
Sorry but this is just .... I dunno.... confusing ? Sean Rash and Chris Barnes don't hold the ball low down but they have good high back swings. Read Mark bakers book if you want a good clear explanation of timing. Also whats the deal with the chair ?? Why doesn't he just throw a ball and show us. Does he ever throw a ball come to think of it.
trickcigar I have to agree with the "Read Mark Baker's book" comment. The centerpiece of understanding leverage and the swing according to Baker is where the ball and arm is positioned when the bowler's slide foot first touches the ground". Understanding early/late timing in relation to leverage is key to getting the roll you are looking for.
Chris Barnes and Sean Rash hold the ball high because thy are hingers. Hingers hold the ball higher because they don't push the ball away. Instead they either take 1 step and hinge if it's a four step. Or if it's a 5 step approach they take two steps and hinge the third step. Hinging you basically naturally let the ball get going in the swing with no push, key to the hinge is you don't want to drop it. But at the same time don't control it. Sean Rash holds the ball up high so when he hinges the ball will get natural momentum on it as it falls into the swing. Basically it's a way of getting good timing on your shots and what both Chris and Sean do equal out to a pushaway. If they didn't hold the ball up high and if they didn't hinge later into the approach they would be early to the line every time. Hinging you get the ball into the swing way earlier than you would in a traditional pushaway. When you hinge you need every bit of delay as possible.
Just decided to buy my own ball and shoes and get a bit more serious. This is the best video I've found so far and I think it's great how motivating this coach is!
just remember to keep working and revolve your equipment around your game not revolve your game around your equipment
I agree!!
Very good coach👍👍
Howdie USBC; my name is Steven Whitehouse. I am a disabled athlete. And started this past Monday I began practicing bowling with the Manchester Alley Cats of Manchester, NH at Spare Time in Manchester, NH. I will be watching these videos to improve everything about the way I bowl. In my first ever practice game with the Team. I scored a 163 (in 2 games). 93 for game 1, that i includes 2 spares. In game 2 my score was lower It was 70 with 1 strike. for a total of 163 (2 games). I will be practicing with the Manchester Alley Cats for the next (8 Mondays). The tournament is Saturday, November 18, 2017 at 1pm also at Spare Time in Manchester, NH. So I want to say thank you for these teaching videos. As I said, I will be watching them everyday so that I can improve my game.
I was watching other bowlers recently to get an idea on how to bowl properly but I realized everybody is different. Everybody has their own style. So once I found what was comfortable for me I started bowling a much better game.
Good conclusion
thank u
My timing is something I've had to work on a lot. I would always get up to the line and the ball would still have a ways to go before release, so this is helpful to have. I'm getting way more serious about form and timing and stepped it up with a better ball. I ended up getting a really good app someone recommended to me so when I go bowling with my partner he can catch in slow mo how my form is. Practice makes perfect!
Cool👍👍
Notice how he holds the ball higher for the slower throw and lower for the faster throw. Like he said it’s a matter of matching up the upper body and the lower body for optimal timing, but he wasn’t the best on explaining how. When you want to throw faster, you want to change speed with your legs because it’s more consistent to walk faster than to throw harder, and the that’s same with throwing slower because it’s hard to maintain consistent muscle tension everytime, and you want to be able to repeat shots and adjust. The old theory was that holding the ball higher for more swing would be more consistent. New theory is that if you want to throw the ball faster, stand farther back because you will naturally have larger/faster strides to get to the foul line, but you also want the upper body to match that timing. To do so when throwing faster, hold the ball lower since holding it higher or the same will cause the ball to be behind your feet and late since you’re walking faster. When wanting to throw slower, stand farther up to naturally slow your approach to the foul line and hold the ball higher because you will take longer to approach the foul line. If you don’t hold it higher, you might end up being too early in timing and having your ball in front of your feet when you reach the foul line. Also, you want to make adjustments holding the ball higher or lower by 6in. It is also the best to move back and forth by one foot length at a time.
Thanks! We don't know who any of these commentators are, but DamonHo makes sense. Hope I can find your comment again when I get frustrated. (Am a novice, but need an easy swing...am 70 years old and want to join a league for fun.)
Good stuff
Love this video I was self taught bowler this helped me I was a 147 average bowler now I’m a 216 average bowler. It is about being patient and practice learn it and breath it take it one frame at a time
Great video demonstration and instruction. Plain and simple. Greg's demonstrations very helpful.
Newly serious 39 year old lefty roller practicing at St. Lucie Lanes. Appreciate this video and may visit the Jupiter Lanes in the future.
Yep.. excellent info. I started bowing this week. but I figured I need some training. I love going to bowl. It's so much fun for me but I seem to hit and miss on the strike thing.
I keep coming back. I have great days and then it seems I forget how to Bowl. I am desperately trying to learn so when I can be consistent in how I bowl.
Low ball has less potential energy, so in order to have it swung higher, you need to pull it hard thru the bottom of the swing arc.
What would happen, had you low ball and slow feet? Let me tell you. It wouldn’t swing and rise any higher than the initial push in the beginning, if you didn’t pull it hard.
Far easier just to let the ball momentum work in favor for your high back swing. Back swing as high as the initial height at the start and let it swing freely.
Watching tons of videos where people are saying to relax and let gravity move the ball then have huge back swings and low push aways.
In this video they talk about slowing down the ball speed and having a high back swing. That has to be done pulling the ball back. Coached are either skipping a piece of their coaching explanation, aren't being truthful, or have found a method to deny laws of physics
@@sven8633 , I think quite a number of coaches in many sports has only the sports spesific jargon to rely on and their own experience. Being a top athlete doesn’t spell understanding all the physical basics, why things happen, but echoing the phrases being said and in relation to their own execution.
great video really made me think about how to lower and increase ball speed and be more comfortable in my shots
bowling is a game of patience and if bowlers dont want to take the time to learn the game thats their problem and thats why they will never be good
Yes, it takes the patience but still not help it. It is how to FIND, CORRECT AND SOLVE THE WRONG WAYS.
I'm confused because coaches usually teach letting the ball swing the arm (pendulum feel) to get a smoother swing, which is a great tip. I would think that holding your ball higher in the pushaway would cause a longer higher backswing and and a lower start position to shorten it. It seems to work that way for me when I raise or lower the balls starting position. 🤔
Awesome lesson and thank you for sharing your video ❤
I found this video very helpful because it was just giving a simple technique and breakdown of how to hook a bowling ball so I try using the football and putting my hand under the ball to make it spin and I was throwing it into the couch and sure enough when I went to the bowling lane to try to hook the bowling ball that technique work for me. Thank you very much. #PEACE✌🏾
Just started working at my local alley... Just bought a ball (2nd hand)
This dude makes it sound so friggin easy! :o
Ayrton Hockaday - This information can only be used properly by intermediate bowlers who already have an idea of their current style.
Giving a nod to Coaches Ross and Borden in doing a great job in moving the sport of bowling back to legitimacy, I have to say it may be more helpful to some bowlers to have you experts develop and use a formal descriptive vocabulary. References to "high backswing" relative holding the ball "lower" for example is hard to mentally visualize without a good reference point. Yeah, I know he says "about waist high," but without an understanding of any relationship to high or low, people can get lost rather quickly. The same applies to folks using o'clock references to hand release positions without explaining the orientation or perspective. IMHO Bowling is a physical sport. The approach to using hard science that you guys bring is appreciated. The physics of launch and entry angles, rotation, axis tilt, velocity and data collection need to be supplemented with anatomy, physiology and kinesiology and presented in a uniform way that makes sense to folks looking to improve their game. Speaking in terms of crankers, strokers and tweeners doesn't help without a proper way to describe what those terms mean.
HRYBCA : Very good points made.
Proper use of terminologies and explanations of the science of bowling has always been a problem . There's many ideologies, approaches and techniques to an ever changing game. It can be quite confusing for a beginner or someone seeking advice.
I’m not very good with ball comparisons but I do have a question or anyone that is good with this. I have a Motive Talon and I’m really looking to get something with more backend. I have more of a tweener style so I know I wouldn’t get as much hook as a cranked/two-handed.
My question is what are some of the best balls out there for high backend hook?
I have a Motiv Rouge Blade. It has a very strong hook on the backend of the lane. I recommend it especially if you have a sort of tweener style. I’m a young two handler that is transitioning to a one handed tweener style as well. I definitely don’t use that ball for two handed though... it goes dead straight, hooks a bit then reacts extremely aggressively as soon as it leaves the oil... this is why I’m not using two hands anymore.😂
Hello and thanks for the question.
Changing the surface of your bowling ball can get you the desired result with out purchasing a new ball.
www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/making-adjustments-to-the-surface-of-your-bowling-equipment-005550/
Comparing weaker and stronger bowling balls and knowing the differences is key to understanding what you need in your bag. Check out this video from our coaches to learn the difference.
www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/picking-the-best-bowling-balls-for-your-arsenal-009311/
Thanks for watching!
Im laying here late at night, all alone, and I can't figure out if I should crank or stroke? Where is the best spot for me to position ball during my stroke/crank? What speed to I go? So many questions.
Hey Capt. Buzzkill, want a sticker?
Geno Luv woah .. harsh
Here's several ideas for playing better cricket :
Allow enough time.
Use internet guides.
Practise with severl people and ask for their opinions.
(I discovered about these and more from Mackynzie cricket system site )
hit the head pin at a 6 degree angle at 17 mph or 27.3 kph. you should choose a style that is the most comfortable for your body. ball should be held just above the waist, below the shoulders. you should walk at a natural pace.
xBleuGuyx exactly the same question which position do they think the right to start haha
I didn't find this very helpful, except for the revelation that early timing leads to a drop, late timing to a hang-up which in 50 years of playing I hadn't grasped. However, some more tips about how to adjust your timing when it is off would be good.
Me either.I thought the "misnomer" was Borden saying holding the ball lower gives you a higher backswing?That's impossible without forcing the ball into the swing.Which is exactly what I was taught NOT to do.I'm "old school"A "stroker".The arm swing is supposed to be loose,natural and unforced.But not in todays game.Not the way these guys teach it.It's all about dropping the shoulder and opening up the shoulder to create that high,forced back swing and revving the shit out of the ball.Wish I was 20 and just learning. :- (
Jeff Bear Jeff, you're right that it probably doesn't make much sense if you think about it in terms of old school bowling. This video is VERY good at showing how ball positions relates to swing height. You're right about one thing, if you hold the ball low and you create a highbackswing, there is some muscle involved. What they don't explain in this video is how as little muscle as POSSIBLE is used to create that high backswing, and then on the way down there is NO MUSCLE USED. That's the key. Once the downswing starts, the best players let gravity bring it down. I can guarantee that bowlers who have high backswings and use muscle on the way down are not as consistent. This method also relates a lot to spine angles, which is really important for staying consistent and balanced throughout the approach. Imagine having a high ball position to start AND a high backswing. It would be very unnatural in a lot of ways. Hope this helps a bit. :)
***** I've tried to open the shoulder and have a higher backswing.I'm too old and can't do it now.If I was 20 and just learning it'd be another story.Physically I'm struggling because of weight gain.And some issues that causes are making me struggle really bad right now.
If your body doesn't let you do it, there's no sense fighting it. There are many bowlers so have small, compact games that are very successful. Guys like Brian Voss, Norm Duke and Doug Kent are guys you should look at for hints on what do with your game. They all do the basics incredibly well and don't necessarily do anything 'fancy" with their swing. I hope that helps and I hope your game improves!
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@2:00, i wish they werent called strokers only because Mr Italian on the left likesa ta talka witha his handsa.
Seriously though, thank you for explaining all this stuff to a straight roller.
Thanks!!!this will help me improve my game!!!
What would be the timing for a neutral pace bowler?
whatever it is
Just what I needed to see. Thanks! Well done.
Amazing everything you talk about is me. No one has ever said what is your timing what is good to you not what is the person that is trying to help you
Glad this was helpful!
Excellent video
I wish I could get a personal lesson from Fred Borden but I live in the Philadelphia area. Can you recommend someone reputable in the Philly area that I could go to? I did spend 5 days at the Dick Ritger bowling camp in 1999 and have held on to some of what I've learned, most importantly that an unusual 5-3 delivery works best for me. I'm now 66 years, have a 205 avg, and would like to have someone that knows what they are doing to help hone my skills for me.
Great score Lisa...
Jason Hamrick thank u
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i'm not seeing his body position or exactly where the ball is dropping....advice is helpful....but i'm not seeing exactly how he is moving...
Just now getting into bowling. I know nothing about bowling, but as a beginner I noticed I intuitively did the curve thing. lol
I wanna hear more about the stroker.
heh hehehhh hheeehh hhehhehhhh hheh hehhh heeehh hehhhehhheehhh hhehhhh. stroker lol hhehhhehhh heeehh
This is a beautiful video. I'm so glad you all took the time to make this
Looks to me like the backswing was just as high regardless of the ball position. The pushaway was the real diffrence
Got a big problem, I bought a Revolver ball, but it doesn't revs at all, Does that mean its drilled wrong? I'm a lefty medium 13-14 mph throw. The proshop that drills it wont even listen..What can I do?
+Erwin Ocampo depends on how you throw it. If the ball has at least a few revolutions with axis tilt, it should hook. Could be the condition you're on as well. If not, then I'd say the pro shop is bad.
+Joe Netzel not a single rev, I have inferno and hammer and just fine i get revs, its just this new ball is pretty bad. complaint on the proshop and says it has nothing to do with them, I showed comparisson on balls that I have thats drilled by other shop works fine, they wont reimburse or replace my ball ugh!!
+Erwin Ocampo Has little to do with the ball. It's mostly how the ball is timed and released.
+Scott Johnson Thanks for the reply its verified it was faulty drill. I was setup the wrong bowler hand I am lefty and got drilled righty specs. Its sucks that he wont pay me back on my ball.
what would you suggest for something to do who bowls in a wheelchair? when Mr. Borden said "match your feet speed with your swing speed" is something i just dont do since i am a wheelchair bowler.
Great tips! Btw are they still accepting applications?
the way the big boss built you is the way you need to set your timing
aaaall true lol
I have a problem my right hap was done two times and my right hip is 3/4 off want can i do to get better with the people that are dilling
Super terrific video! This coach Borden is an expert. I had to replay sections of the video repeatedly on each style to be able to grasp all of the detail of his explanation. Readjusting my timing has been my most major and critical task recently. It has produced surprisingly great results but lack of understanding what I am been doing has prevented me from locking in on the proper form. This video helped me to understand what actions produces which results and given me more confidence in my direction. Anxious to get back on the lanes to put this learning to use. Thanks coach! Hope you got more videos out here on You Tube. I be looking for them.
The key to this vid is matching up were your ball is at the start and back swing.
Were can I get my ball done
Right I have one right hip it was broken too times and I would like to know how to get a better ball dill my ball the right way i go too is their ball to get i had a 198 now i have a 133 this year i would like to be able to get a better ball to be better at this time play better games and get better so i can get better and more 300 or better games like a 800 or a 900 game but i would like to get a better ball or something different like new shoes for me my left side is the way it same level is the not the same as my left side so when I get a better ball
This is nearly impossible to read without correct spelling and PUNCTUATION.... Also, there are differences between TO, TOO, and TWO.
Jonathan Kent - Have some respect! Jamie is the only person on Earth working on bowling a 900 game. Now I don't know about you, but I would like to see that.
well work on your English first before you think about doing a difficult sport such as bowling please or else your gonna trip all over your feet like you are with your words😂
I wish I could play bowling everyday!
Great video.
I need help how to curve a bowling i am not good hooking a ball
Hi Terry. There are different styles of hook and learning to curve the ball can be a great experience. The Bowling Academy has videos to help learn how to hook a ball. Here are a few links to videos about hooking the ball.8 Tips for a Better Bowling Release | USBC Bowling Academy (www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/8-tips-better-release-015225/)Release Drills for a Better Bowling Finish Position | USBC (www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/release-drills-for-a-better-bowling-finish-position-009336/)Discover Bowling Release Styles - Bowling Training Video (www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/versions-of-the-bowling-release-005673/)Perfecting The Bowling Release: Thumb Positioning - USBC (www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/the-bowling-release-thumb-positioning-005834/)Bowling Ball Release Tips | USBC Bowling Academy Video (www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/ball-release-005531/)Bowling Approach Steps For A Proper Release | USBC (www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/proper-bowling-approach-steps-009284/)Optimum Release Techniques (www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/optimum-release-techniques-011481/)Bowling Release Tips for Consistency and Increasing Average (www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/bowling-release-tips-to-provide-consistency-and-increase-your-average-005558/)It may be easier to have a certified coach on hand to help with your specific needs. Look for a certified coach to help work with your game specifically. Visit www.bowl.com and use the “Find a…” tab (top right of the page) to locate a coach. Enter your zip code and a radius then click “search.” To locate a certified pro shop operator in your area use the IBPSIA website and search using your zip code. Here’s their address www.ibpsia.com/go/find_shop/type/shop/by_state.Thanks for continuing with the Bowling Academy.
He moved his ball up and down in his set up.....but I find it interesting that they did not note how he moved his feet back and forth on the approach when he changed up the other things too. You can see it from the side view.
I literally cannot stop watching this video
Great video
This guy is a good teacher
Nice tips Sir
Same colors as kingpin Max. Interesting 2:48
I have my hand and looks like what's to bowling ball hold on it and dose not keep my hands straight I need to help someone to keep
My hands straight what should I do when i'am bowling
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I’d love to be able to get the ball to spin like that.
Good knowledge
The first, Gregs(?) first shot was in time, but the examples are really out of timing.
Low position at start would be in time with low back swing, were it neutral. Low start, high back is manipulating. Look at his steps and acceleration on the approach. He actually halts in between the acceleration phase of the approach to wait for the ball to enter the correct timing spot of his swing.
Understanding, the mid approach timing check-point would benefit the mannekin as well as any bowler from beginner to major winner.
The old person talking the video thru is really nobody to teach people how to swing a bowling ball. He is an expert on throwing the ball, but obviously doesn’t understand the basic physics of moving a heavy object.
Great performance. Not to old you can learn it. Hilleke can do it.
Just to be clear Marshall Kent has one of the highest rev rates in the PBA almost the same as belmo (600) and a striker has like a 200
Or 300
I could never get a good curve on a ball until last night when I used a 15 pound ball and I was getting strikes left and right, I was mind blown lol
think your only suppose to get your strikes on one side : P
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Anybody, how do you get a high backswing holding the ball low in the setup. I like to hold the ball low but I have a low back swing. I have to drop the ball from waist height or higher to get a high backswing
Can anyone help?
One last thing, surely the top priority in bowling must be accuracy, you never get many videos on how to actually aim the ball. How do you aim ?
Hello,The solution to your low back swing woes is to open your hand up while the ball is in the back swing.Your thumb should go into a position that will point up at the ceiling when you are at the top of your backswing. So from your starting position, your hand will begin to move as you are entering your push away completing the turn at the top of your backswing. Now that you have a higher backswing it is imperative to not try and muscle the shot from the peak of the back swing down.Check out this video for backswing tips.www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/proper-bowling-arm-swing-005529/ Thanks for watching!
AT 6:27 .
ONLY 1 THING WRONG IN THIS VIDEO. A "MISNOMER" IS THE WRONG "NAME" FOR SOMETHING; e.g., "ROBBED" THE HOUSE VS. "BURGLARIZED" THE HOUSE. A MISNOMER IS NOT THE WRONG IDEA OR CONCEPTION. MISNOMER LITERALLY MEANS "BAD NAME".
Thank you very much!👍
also everyone has their owb style and changing sometimes can do more bad than good
“The way the big Boss built you..” hell yeah! Great video!
I'm a cranker but my girlfriend is a stroker.
Just like was demonstrated at 2:04
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영상 잘 봤습니다🤘👍
timing is the key, thanks for the formula
What's missing from this video is very crucial - his starting position. The faster he wants to throw it, the further back on the approach is his starting position. That is key aside from the ball placement in his starting stance. Good vid nonetheless.
2:06 is the truth.
@ 250 RPM I've always tried to square my shoulders up to the foul line upon release. Is this why my revs have stayed low? And is that why my track seems to my straighter?
Hi Jonathan. Here are five video’s you should find helpful.
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www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/proper-bowling-arm-swing-005529/
www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/bowling-release-tips-to-provide-consistency-and-increase-your-average-005558/
www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/launch-angle-bowling-tips-007622/
www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/bowling-ball-types-track-identification-005790/
www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/tracking-bowler-statistics-simple-tools-012573/ Thanks!
excellent
USBC limit is 16 lbs. Kyle
Bro I slide too much and I tried the wire brush. I'm only 155 pounds so need more stopping power. I've tried all the different soles on my s2 and it's too much slide. Should I try sneakers? Lol
2 min video stretched into 10 minutes. Repeat the same idea over and over and over. Ugh
all the ball were hook shot? i never learn to hook a bowling ball.
Major freudian slip at 2:05 from the wince to the hand motion. LOL get it together my guy
I grew up with a VHS of Fred giving bowling tips. This is virtually the same lesson he gave all those years ago. I'd like to see more Fred.
I have spent weeks researching beginners guide to bowls and found an awesome website at Berts bowls guide (look it up on google)
What a great God centered man !
Nice sport.
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2:01 They have a moment. lol
Looks like the oldie in grey tee is getting filmed for the first time, drama king!
I learn hard hard already 5 times bowling teacher, since 8 years club deaf bowling, play more stop .here France
Cool story bro
What I like doing is to take my time
I LOVE BOWLING!!! highest score is 323
323 eh?
the highest you can get is 300....
make that 372 still a work in progress
Lisa Cyrus Are you talking 10 pin or 5 pin?
you can't get over 300...
He said, “The USBC ‘certification’ program?! Oh no! We’re not allowed to call ourselves certified are we?
I dont bowl 1 handed i bowl 2 handed like jason belmonte this helped me a lot i used to hold it higher i didnt do as good as when i started holding it lower i have been doing better
I don’t get the ball to curve or hook
Just a straight line ball
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can't get curve, tried different ways,
m d have you tried a two handed no thumb technique?
I’m 16 and I throw at 15 mph I take 5 -6 steps before I release I have a problem with pocket consistency
I took a couple of lessons from the pro who was very adamant that I only use 4 steps, and to use that to gauge how far back from the line I should be when I start my run up to the release point. He also taught be that the steps should all have the same timing. This meant that I do a mental countdown while taking them.
Knife guy 375: find some older footage of Fred Borden and he looks like Roy Orbison's twin brother.
Me, High positions, low swing
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Sorry but this is just .... I dunno.... confusing ? Sean Rash and Chris Barnes don't hold the ball low down but they have good high back swings. Read Mark bakers book if you want a good clear explanation of timing. Also whats the deal with the chair ?? Why doesn't he just throw a ball and show us. Does he ever throw a ball come to think of it.
trickcigar I have to agree with the "Read Mark Baker's book" comment. The centerpiece of understanding leverage and the swing according to Baker is where the ball and arm is positioned when the bowler's slide foot first touches the ground". Understanding early/late timing in relation to leverage is key to getting the roll you are looking for.
Chris Barnes and Sean Rash hold the ball high because thy are hingers. Hingers hold the ball higher because they don't push the ball away. Instead they either take 1 step and hinge if it's a four step. Or if it's a 5 step approach they take two steps and hinge the third step. Hinging you basically naturally let the ball get going in the swing with no push, key to the hinge is you don't want to drop it. But at the same time don't control it. Sean Rash holds the ball up high so when he hinges the ball will get natural momentum on it as it falls into the swing. Basically it's a way of getting good timing on your shots and what both Chris and Sean do equal out to a pushaway.
If they didn't hold the ball up high and if they didn't hinge later into the approach they would be early to the line every time. Hinging you get the ball into the swing way earlier than you would in a traditional pushaway. When you hinge you need every bit of delay as possible.
Hey, u forgot that some of us lost our hearing, I can’t hear u please setup captioned lines.
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@2:00 I'm kind of a stroker too. huhh huhh huhh huh huh huhhh huhhh huhhhuhhuhhh hhuuuhhhh hhuuuhhh hhuuhuhhuhhh. stroker.
When you talk about a thumb drop and I use 2 fingers no thumb