I Cleaned Valuable Coins & Sent them to PCGS - Results!
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The Professional Coin Grading Service (PCGS) is a renowned organization dedicated to the authentication, grading, and preservation of coins. Established in 1986, PCGS has become a global leader in numismatic services, offering expertise in coin grading and restoration. Their services are highly regarded by collectors, investors, and dealers alike, providing a trusted framework for evaluating the condition and authenticity of rare and valuable coins.
PCGS employs a rigorous grading process that involves examining coins for authenticity, determining their condition, and assigning a grade based on established industry standards. This grading process is crucial for establishing the value and marketability of coins. Coins encapsulated and graded by PCGS are widely accepted and trusted within the numismatic community, offering assurance to buyers and sellers alike.
One key aspect of PCGS's operations is coin restoration. This process involves the careful preservation and enhancement of coins to restore their original appearance while maintaining their historical integrity. Coin restoration can encompass various techniques, depending on the condition of the coin and the desired outcome.
The restoration of coins is a delicate art that requires specialized knowledge and skills. PCGS employs experts who are proficient in numismatics and restoration techniques to ensure that coins are treated with the utmost care and professionalism. The goal of coin restoration is not only to enhance the visual appeal of the coin but also to safeguard its value and historical significance.
The restoration process typically involves several steps:
1. *Cleaning and Preservation:* The first step in coin restoration is often cleaning and preserving the coin's surface. This may involve removing surface dirt, debris, or corrosion that has accumulated over time. Specialized cleaning techniques are used to avoid damaging the coin's surface.
2. *Conservation:* Conservation involves stabilizing the coin to prevent further deterioration. This may include applying protective coatings or using methods to inhibit oxidation or corrosion.
3. *Re-Toning and Enhancement:* In some cases, coins may benefit from re-toning or enhancement to restore their original luster and appearance. This process requires careful application of techniques to achieve natural-looking results without altering the coin's authenticity.
PCGS follows strict guidelines and ethical standards in its restoration practices to ensure that coins are treated responsibly and with respect for their historical value. While restoration can enhance the appearance of a coin, it is essential to maintain transparency about any interventions made during the process.
For collectors and investors, PCGS's restoration services offer an opportunity to preserve and enhance the beauty of rare coins while safeguarding their investment value. Coins that have been professionally restored by PCGS can command higher prices in the market due to their improved appearance and authenticity.
Overall, PCGS plays a vital role in the numismatic community by providing expert grading and restoration services that uphold the integrity and value of rare and historical coins. Through their dedication to excellence and innovation, PCGS continues to set the standard for coin grading and preservation in the industry.
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0:00 Intro
2:52 How To Clean
9:53 After Cleaning
10:17 Results! - บันเทิง
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I always give my silver coins an acetone bath before sending off for grading. Mainly to get rid of dirt, grease, pvc, etc. I have never used the more aggressive cleaners like MS70 or EZEST. I need to give those cleaners a try. If PCGS can restore a coin there is no reason a thoughtful and careful collector can't do the same.
Great video. Your videos on this is why I clean most coins before I send to pcgs. So far never got a cleaned detail grade. Thanks for all your videos.
Glad to hear that! Thanks for watching
Love vids like this....when a person proves the "doubters" WRONG!! Ironically, the "restoration process" with these grading companies is probably very similar and you just saved yourself a lot of time and money by doing it yourself. Coins turned out beautiful
Thank you!
I did a video on PCGS restoration. In that video I said I can do a better job and had haters come at me for that lol. But this proves it!
Man that sucks that PCGS took the 1880 CC out of the GSA holder. Having the coin in a GSA holder usually makes CCs worth more.
If I remember right my holder was cracked. They gave me the option to holder the entire GSA holder, but I said not to. I didn’t know they did that when I sent it in.
@@rockysramblings oh yeah.NGC just puts a band around them with the grade. ANACS does something similar. PCGS is the only one that encapsulates the GSA capsule lol
@@rockysramblings ANACS, NGC, and PCGS will all grade GSA coins in the holders (soft and hard). NGC will also grade blue and brown Ikes as well as Redfield hoard morgans in their original case
Well done on the 1899 getting MS65. Excellent result.
I use Dawn detergent to take off the initial oils and environmental grime before I dip. Amazing soap for cleaning even without scrubbing if you know how to use hydraulic agitation.
This is what my LCS told me to do to get the decades of dirt & grime off mine.
Was hopping you would do this. Thank you for the science
I use EZest I reduce it with distilled water. Rinse and dip in distilled water bath. Hairdryer. No dry rubbing! Perfect way works for me. I have never used ms70 sounds like I'd give it a try someday
I feel like ms70 is good for the heavier gunk. Some coins don’t look that dirty but you’d be amazed how black the swabs get. Then EZest is a nice way to shine them up!
It’s the easiest
Wow, I learned something here today. Beautiful coins.
Thank you!
Excellent video, you did an awesome job! Thanks for the excellent information!
Thank you!
Great job and nice video.
Ty for the lesson. Appreciate you brother
Ty for watching
Useful information. Thanks
Good job Rocky.
Thank you!
Cautionary note: The E-Z-Zest will etch your stainless steel sink.
Yeah, I found that out really quick!!
Thanks for your documentation - similar to my experiences. You may also try ammonia (clear) and experiment on some coins you don't care about. Especially nickel or copper-nickel.
My best was an ANACS 66 to PCGS 69PL on a 1980 0.500 gold Panama coin...
Dang! Nice upgrade!
Great info
Excellent
There is no reason cleaning them should hurt the value. I cleaned all mine the same way.
❤Interesting stuff!
I just got a ddo fs-103 kennedy back in 67 I used ms-70. And I use it regularly
Keep the videos rolling bro! HAGD!
Man we appreciate your time, money and effort you've put into this. I've been waiting to see a video like this for a long time. I personally don't clean my coins however you've found a way to beat the system to a degree 😂. You might want to be careful the tpgc might put a hit out on you. Awesome video!
Haha well if they take me out I hope I become a saint to the coin world for becoming a coin martyr 🤣
P.S. I am not suicidal 😆
😂
Thanks!
Good deal !
You know what's coming from the naysayers now... "That'll never get past CAC" 😆
I just ordered a bottle of MS70 to give it a try. I've tried ezest, and you are so right, it can fubar a silver dollar if left in too long. It gives it a dull ,off white color and takes away any semblance of cartwheel affect.
I'll be happy to take that other 94 off your hands 🤗
Enjoyed the video 👍👍
Thanks for watching!
I had a GORGEOUS Franklin half which just had a nasty carbon spot on it. The fields were so slick the coin almost looked proof-like. So I took some coin cleaner and a Q-tip and tried to get the carbon spot off. I did not use much pressure, either, or so I thought. The Q-TIP ALONE scratched the coin surface!!! I have kept this coin as a lesson to myself for my screw-up.
What cleaner did you use?
I cleaned proof coins in another video and it went great 🤔
@@rockysramblings MS70?
@@rockysramblings Long time ago. I just could not believe COTTON could scratch METAL.
I started collecting a long time ago. When ngc and pcgs hijacked our hobby making themselves instantly the experts. When ANNACS was around longer but a few guys got together and made these grading companies. But when they started with it was cleaned , but not by us so we're letting everyone know. That's hijacking our hobby.
Yeah I do believe it’s a scam to a degree as well. You can go right on their app and see the pictures of their high graded coins and I have many times had nicer coins then what they’re showing and they give me some low ball grade. The big players get the good grades. Also the subjectivity in the grading is really messed up. With AI now there should be an easier, faster and more uniform way of grading.
Oh mine!! ❤
I like the term "conserve" which really doesn't have a bias to it. BTW, I had one modern gold coin that went from ANACS66 & after conserving with ammonia (not for all coins!) went to PCGS 69PL! I don't understand the bias against ANACS as if they are not perfect certainly represent a viable option.
FAKE 'grading'!
I just got a bunch of coins including Peace & Morgon SD’s from my mother that were my father’s. He passed away 40 years ago and I didn’t even know they existed. Anyway, I’m so confused trying to figure out what to do with them so I started watching videos. I was thinking of starting by going to the library and use the “red coin book” to get an idea of value, and then maybe pursue getting them graded? ANACS has a deal at $14 per coin for 10 coins and they are in the Chicago area in August. This video seems to show that cleaning the coins might not be the best plan because PCGS didn’t grade one of your coins and gave it a cleaned designation?
The coin they graded as cleaned was heavily worn and PCGS will pretty much give a cleaned grade to any coin they see some lines on without considering if it was normal wear or not. The others were in uncirculated condition. The easiest research you can do is to assume a grade and then check eBay for the values. If you think it’s worth it then maybe get them graded. Usually if they aren’t in high grades they won’t be worth paying to grade. Or you could take them into a coin shop and have them look at them but beware if they seem too eager to buy them off of you. Even a worn coin on certain dates can be big money.
Having them cleaned. They look good but the dirt makes it look original.
I like toning but not a fan of dirt or crud on them 🤷🏼♂️
congrats. ive been curious on how people restore coins
I have a 1891 morgan proof cameo ms 64 that has a lot of Haziness on the reverse. Would you recommend sending it to pcgs for restoration, or should I try restoring it myself.
Are you sure it’s a proof or a DMPL? I’ve used this process on proof coins as well.
Yes, it's a PR64CAM. After watching your video, I'm considering cleaning my coin myself and sending it to PCGS for raw grading. However, I'm concerned that it might be returned without the cameo designation or be graded lower due to cleaning.
I recall that not many years ago the grading services would notate cleaned on the holder and not assign a grade
Yes. They still do. If they can tell if it’s been cleaned
Those cleaners are not for copper .. fine on gold and silver .. but apparently when conserving copper coins .. the grading companies use some other stuff ... Copper is a very tricky substance... after using even copper cleaner it turns them a pinkish colour...
I did use it on copper in another video. It passed inspection however I wouldn’t use eZest on copper for the reason you stated. I do use ms70 and it doesn’t seem to change its color.
I've used Coin Care & Verdi-Care on cooper and had really good results.
Omg look how dirty that Q-tip is just from that one side......ty I all ways like learning new things
I agree Pcgs just wants you to pay them 300 a hr to do it that’s all it’s about I believe
Quick question, if there's a scratch on the coin and you do this, would it make the scratch look like a brand new scratch and give it away as recently cleaned?
I am not sure. None of these coins are flawless, but If it’s a big enough scratch they’ll call it details/scratched anyway.
Thanks for the education
This video is just stating the obvious we have all known this for years now don’t leave it in to long or dip more then once got to be careful a lot times coins have been dipped before then you dip it again and it turns out to be one to many dips but people have been doing this for long time
Greetings
Great video. Thanks!
Have you ever tried BU PLUS?
Nope. Never heard of it 🤔
Good morning.
Hope you’re doing well.
There is a video on this platform named “BU Plus Residue Remover and Brightener Instructional Video”
It’s a good one as well.
I’ve used this product and works pretty well. However, it can’t remove carbon spots as the its creator or the product says.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Did PCGS force you to insert that long disclaimer in the video description?
No. I don’t even know what it says. I use Chat AI to write a long description that has keywords in it 🤣
Ok, first I want to say I absolutely love your videos showing that coins absolutely can be "restored " without creating or causing damage to the point itself. I see so many discussions on this and the negativity towards it that it's become at a point to where nearly makes me sick. Then you have those that are trying to clean them with things like ketchup and toothbrushes and toothpaste and so on and so forth that also makes me sick!
Anyhow the reason for this comment is because I realized that you are into the high dollar coinage and can obviously afford to do so however for those of us that do coin roll hunting and things of such nature and pennies nickels dimes quarters 50 cent pieces and the modern dollars which are obviously mostly circulated when you're doing wild hunts like that and I would absolutely love love love love love love to see a video of your cleaning excuse me " restoration " to the circulated more modern cornage found in the wild and or circulated as referred to. I believe I've watched all of your videos regarding this subject and have yet to find anything where any type of modern circulated coinage found in the wild... For example '70s pennies '80s nickels '90s quarters you get the idea anyways I would love to see even just a short short video of you doing those type of coins for those of us that can't exactly afford to even purchase a single Morgan let alone several. LOL
Thank you for watching! So for anything post 1964 using metals like zinc or nickel in the composition, basically all the modern stuff, I have used MS-70 to clean them and have no received details graded. I did use eZest on a copper penny in another video and it makes it more pink than red and I was concerned but I also did not receive a details grade from ANACS. I worry about eZest on Pennie’s tho. Just because of the color change. It makes it suspicious to me. I am not really into modern coins but if I ever do a cleaning on one to send in I will definitely do a video for you! Thanks again!
@@rockysramblings wow! I am so impressed with you! 1) I didn't expect ANY reply, let alone so quickly!
2) I love how you show true CARE for your subscribers thoughts and suggestions. Even those of us not so fortunate as yourself! THANK YOU, YOU'VE MADE MY DAY!
I too used eZest on a copper and it did the same thing, pinkish and ugly! Oddly, both acetone (pure), nor eZest made any changes to the (clad) state quarter, (clad) National Park quarter, (clad) Kennedy, nor to the Sacagawea! Not a single change...positive or negative.
I would love that, IF you ever do any cleaning on anything more modern, such as is in "today's" back rolls, pocket change, ECT. I'm otherwords, cheap. LOL (forget the zinc, they are worthless and fall apart without doing anything with them lol) but like for example I'm trying to put together a state and national Park complete P&D set (clad)
You're only ever meant to handle a coin by its EDGES!! Cowboy!
Why does it matter? If I can touch them, clean them and send them to PCGS and get the grades I was shooting for….. then why? Where’s the logic?
@@rockysramblings You're American, that's why! You clowns ALL use that PCGS 'slabbing' crap, with FAKE 'grading'!! Why do you want to take ALL the character out of your coins?? I own a superb Uncirculated George IV 1824 Shilling with the most beautiful BLUE toning - why would I want to CLEAN it!!?????
1899 is a great score especially cracking from accugrade
Yeah I was pretty happy with it!
ultrasonic might not be a bad idea either, suspended in a baggie full of clean solution. that and a blast of steam is used to clean accumulated crud off of jewelry, one just has to know which gemstones can't handle that kind of abuse.
I noticed that you clean your coins with only 1 end of a Q-tip. That one Q-tip end gets very dirty. It appears that you are spreading that filth/dirt all over the surface of the coin evenly. Is that the idea? Does that help to maintain a look of originality? What would be the result if you used a clean end of the Q-tip and dipped it in MS70 and then went over the surface of the coin with a clean Q-tip?
The rinse gets all that grime off. If it gets really dirty I will swap ends. I’m just trying to make the most of the Q-tip. There’s no strategy behind it. That MS70 is slimy and somewhat thick so when you rinse it off you can feel the slimy stuff on the coin and I keep rinsing it until I don’t feel the slime anymore. Also why I use warm water to help rinse the slime off.
Grading coins by PCGS Europe (is located in Paris) is very expensive where i live (i live in Switzerland). At least 100 swiss francs. That's why i don't do it.
Wonder how that would do if laser cleaned
🤷🏼♂️
So why do you clean your coins other than they are more pleasing to look at, and it would save you some money from having someone else/grading company clean them? Does it make the coin more valuable?
Eye appeal can increase the value of a coin. Besides I just figure if it’s going to get encapsulated it may as well look its best
8:59 wow that's a huge difference it'll be interesting to see how they score
Polishing compound and a microfiber towel
Never tried it
If you want to ruin your coin…
You double dip?? The dirty q-tip back in the MS-70? What!
It’s okay, it’s still using the same chemicals. It loosens debris from the surface. The rinse is what really gets it off.
That 1894 was already cleaned before you dipped it
Never clean or dip or use anything on copper coins
I used MS70, acetone and eZest on Pennie’s in another video. I thought the eZest would come back cleaned but they all got a straight grade to my surprise.
Hope PCGS never sees this video & makes CLEANED notes on those verification #s.😵
They’re too lazy to do that
@@rockysramblings ~ Hope PCGS never sees your followup comment calling them LAZY. 🙃😂
Those chemicals are doing a number on your fingers.
I’ve had far worse
And my first question is why have a circulated details 1894 Philadelphia in the set just to have one it’s does not make sense to just have a coin in there don’t think it benefits you to have a details coin in set just very confusing most people who put coins in set registration are trying to build the number 1 set
I doubt I’d ever get the #1 set of Morgan’s. I don’t have that kind of money. I do it just to have a complete set. Even if it’s cleaned. It’s a key date 🤷🏼♂️
You’re seriously over estimating the “one or two pounds” of force you’re using on the swab. I couldn’t get to 3/4 pounds before breaking a swab. One or two ounces is even on the high side.
Well I didn’t use a scale. But I’m not applying a whole lot of pressure. I’ve seen videos where people say to roll it across but it’s im trying to make the point that it can be dragged over the surface without marking it. Dragging cleans it a lot better than rolling it.
Try Clay Bar, game changer
Have you had them graded afterward?
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first coin, there is a D stamped in the R
🤔 care to elaborate?
@@rockysramblings
What is there to elaborate on? there is a D stamped into the R on the first coin you showed. I dint know why its there.. you are the one teaching people about coins so I pointed out my observation to get the expertise opinion as to why. But it was really just a blanket statement observation rather than a question. whether you care to know why or nor, Is not on me. its not my coin. Maybe a security detail? who knows but Im not going to lose sleep over whether or not I know why there is a D stamped in your coin..
Hows that for elaboration.? Half the time these get deleted anyway.
@@rockysramblings What is there to elaborate on? there is a D stamped into the R on the first coin you showed. I dint know why its there.. you are the one teaching people about coins so I pointed out my observation to get the expertise opinion as to why. But it was really just a blanket statement observation rather than a question. whether you care to know why or nor, Is not on me. its not my coin. Maybe a security detail? who knows but Im not going to lose sleep over whether or not I know why there is a D stamped in your coin..
Hows that for elaboration.? Half the time these get deleted anyway.
Mine are all black.!!
What did you use?
As soon as I saw your 'title', I thought AMERICAN!
Why is that?
The fact that you are holding the coin like a complete DA just bothers the sh!t out of me. 😂 Great channel and video man but god just hold the coin on the edge. I get mad at my customers for touching my coins like this. I mean seriously why are you doing that?
In not the holders? Or out? I usually do grab the rims unless I am intending to restore them anyway. If it’s in the holder…. 🤷🏼♂️ holders can be cleaned. Thanks for watching!
I'm not even going to comment this time.
You just did
@@rockysramblings No a comment would include words like NaF Sodium Fluoride and Polymers.
Try metholated spirits to dry coin, instead of clothes, apply with cotton bud. Cheers Robin
if you brocke that out 1880cc you lost a lot ,both pcgs and ngc grades them in holder and so does anacs not as popular but they doit ,
Holder was damaged. PCGS broke it out
You never want use ms70 or ez zest on a circulated coin.
I did. Turned out just fine
@@rockysramblings They won't straight grade is what I meant to say..
@@sob1994 but this video is showing that you can
@@rockysramblings yes on Unc coins you can but on a circulated coins like the 94 it will be too bright to straight grade. I know it was already a details coin, I originally left the comment before seeing that.
But even if you pay to get a circulated Morgan professional conserved by NGC it still won't pass with a straight grade from what I've seen.
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What is there to elaborate on? there is a D stamped into the R on the first coin you showed. I dint know why its there.. you are the one teaching people about coins so I pointed out my observation to get the expertise opinion as to why. But it was really just a blanket statement observation rather than a question. whether you care to know why or nor, Is not on me. its not my coin. Maybe a security detail? who knows but Im not going to lose sleep over whether or not I know why there is a D stamped in your coin..
Hows that for elaboration.? Half the time these get deleted anyway.
What are you talking about old man?
It’s just the upper loop of the R with some dirt in the upper loop still so it accents the shape.
That’s why I called junk silver when you clean coins. You ruined the value when you clean those coins. So are you gonna tell people that you clean the coins when you sell them?
I don’t sell but even if I did, is it cleaned if PCGS can’t even spot it? When PCGS cleans them they call them restored. So if I restore them then it’s junk? Make it make sense.
Dipping coins is how all professionals conserve coins
Stop misinforming novis coin collectors.
Ur a menis to honest coin collectors.
How am I misinforming anyone? I did an experiment and shared the results
No misinformation here. I don't know what you are going on about. He was completely transparent and showed the entire process.
Sorry, but I don't take anyone seriously who can't even spell "menace." SMH.
@@scotts1356 Right!
It’s considered sacrilege for some collectors.
What ever you use remember one thing, Coin Dealers will knock off many dollars off a coin if they can prove it's been cleaned.
If PCGS can’t detect it how will a random dealer? I don’t sell anyway so I’m not concerned but true none the less
Last time i used a q tip on a morgan pcgs coin came back cleaned. M
My guess would be that the coin already had cleaning marks. They are extremely picky about any lines. They don’t take the time to determine if lines are from cleaning or wear like ANACS. Either that or you pushed too hard. I barely apply pressure. Or whatever you cleaned off scratched it in the process.
Every one of these coins should come back with cleaned and environmental damage, a good person would see that
PCGS didn’t see it
Wow must be nice just to have that kind of money to waste. Instead of wasting the money I can give you my number and address and you can just send it my way I could really use it😂😂
It’s for science! ☝🏻😆
You are aware that most Morgan's even very fine ones are only worth scrap value and are still sent to melt
End results, a MS65 and MS64 now came back MS63. And the VF coin is now ungradable. Fantastkc.
Did you watch the video? 🤔
@@rockysramblings 1:53 1890-O MS64
2:03 1899 MS65
2:33 1894 VF25
10:23 1894- Genuine, cleaned, VF detail. Meaning it is now worst then VF25.
16:21 1890-O MS63, which is worse than MS64 and 1899 MS65.
So, overall, two coins ended up downgraded and the third came back the same. You have to stop thinking of grades as "shiny appeal" It is the original surfaces, high points of the detail and lack of scratches that give coins their good ratings. Cleaning them can't help any of that.