I love the simplicity (in today’s standards) of the MX-5 with the 6-speed manual and normally aspirated engine. And by the way, the 2019 MX-5 has been rated no. 1 in reliability by Consumer Report, beating all the Toyotas including the Corolla. I have a 12 year old MX-5 and it’s the most reliable car I ever had and I’ve had 13 cars for more than 40 years.
Awesome, I cant wait to turn in my 2018 Acura ilx for a miata . I've had only honda and acuras as my commuters due to reliability but I need something fun . I'm putting too many miles on my mustang because the ilx is so boring .
I just wanted to say thank you. I watched this review and many others before buying my 2020 club. I never knew I could love a car quite this much. We went in 50/50 on the roadster vs RF and drove home with the roadster. The RF just felt like a lot of compromise, plus more money, complexity, weight and blind spots. I see a lot of reviews that minimize that weight penalty, and in most cars that would make sense, but on a car so light, it seems egregious.
I got caught in a HEAVY downpour on the interstate in my Roadster with the top down. I rolled up the windows and barely a drop got on me, crazy. (2019 base model) I was running the 16" base wheels, Yokohama Advan Sport stock tires and was able to comfortably maintain between 60-70 MPH.
Good review Brian ! The ND / ND2 are amazing cars in the world today as its price is affordable & there are not many of roadsters that you can say that about. Mazda is changing their infotainment system but its on the CX-9 & soon the CX-5. Eventually the MX-5 will get the updates. I didn't buy my 2016 MX-5 Club for the infotainment system. It works fine so does the navigation system once you find out the quirks. No car before this one has provided so much driving fun ! Even in the cold weather put the winter tires on & its almost as fun in snow. Love this car & what Mazda engineers designed. That Hush O Matic cat back active exhaust was a great mod from Flying Miata !
Thanks, Alan. As long as I can have CarPlay, the infotainment doesn’t matter to me. It’s effective and, most importantly, not distracting. Flyin Miata does good work!
That is one good looking MX-5👍👍. My 16 Club with a Good-Win exhaust, Karcepts sway bar, adjustable Koni’s...just about perfect. Yes, I would like to have the 18 more hp, but not cost effective to me to trade. Agreed with your take on the car. It is a “drivers” car. Great sports car road and scenery👍😎 Nice review, Thanks👍👍
I am picking up a 2023 MX5 GSP w/sport package (Club) on Monday! I traded in my 2017 MX5 GSP. Hopefully I will see a difference in performance and handling as the new one has the KPC programming. Let’s see! If you are ever in Montreal and want to shoot an updated review let me know as it would be my pleasure to have you use my vehicle. Cheers!
"if you some how miss a shift that's your mistake" 5:25 True. Just bought a 2019 and I came from my '97 cobra 5 speed. I have been consistently shifting second to fifth, instead of second to third. Not used to the tighter gates of the six speed on a much smaller car.
Here in Cali that CarPlay upgrade is $500 from the dealer. And, you’re stuck with Apple's crummy Maps app. The MX-5's native navigation app bites too. Google Maps is all I use anymore: it’s on all my devices, along with favorite destinations, my contacts list, etc., and it looks great on my iPhone RX's screen. How do I get all my favorite apps, including podcasts, Apple Music, Google Maps, Waze, and other valued traveling companions to pair up with Mazda's quirky infotainment system? The solution for my ‘19 Miata is to use the (free) Bluetooth feature to successfully run all my apps, not just the ones Apple thinks will be best for me. Another benefit: I kept Mazda from gouging me out of $500 for a feature they should be including as standard equipment.
John, I negotiated CarPlay/Android Auto upgrade as a condition of purchase. Contrary to your misperception, I have Google Maps, Waze, and Apple Maps to choose from on my ND2's screen.
Japanese aftermarket is great, too. LEG Roadsports and AutoExe Roadsports has some good support for the ND2. Flyin Miata has great instructional installation videos on bolt on modifications which is great
I just came across this review and thought it was excellent, really enjoyed your delivery and opinion. This being said, i wanted to ask if how would you rate an NC2 in comparison to this on driving dynamics? ND right now is outside my budget and I actually really like the looks on NC2. I'm very much interested in your take on that, so do let me know.
I love this guy, Check out his other video”Base is ace” . One of the purest car video I’ve seen. No one ever looks at the base model, after watching his video I honestly want a base model, because it really fits my needs. Really, how many of us lives next to a race track or even track our cars.
Awesome video! Just ordered a 2020 MX-5 earlier in the week, and can't wait for it to arrive. Got almost the exact car featured in this video: Club trim, soft top, manual, in red. The only thing I didn't get was the Recaro/BBS/Brembo package, as I didn't fit comfortably in the Recaros, and for 2020 you can no longer get the BBS/Brembos as a standalone package without the Recaros as you could in 2019. Gonna drive it stock for a while though, and then I can always go aftermarket if I feel like I need more.
Thanks, we don't disagree, but don't tell us, tell your friends, share it on Reddit and your social, and hit up our merch store! You probably don't need to tweak it unless there's something specific you're looking for. Good thing the aftermarket is deep.
Great review!!! I completely agree with you. I have the same fun everytime I drive my NC. Even our NA gives nearly the same fun to drive feeling, although its 28 years old! If you don't have a MX5, buy one, you won't regret it! I would like to have an ND, but hate to sell my NC. And 3 mx5's? Mmmm maybe I can convince my wife. haha would be nice..
@@BrianMakse You got that right Brian. I have a set of dedicated winter tires Michelin X-Ice 3 for my 2016 Club. Its amazing that this car thrills in just about ANY weather.
Enjoyable as always, Brian. I have a question for you: While driving aggressively, especially through curves, should a driver try to keep his hands on top of the wheel in front of them, (I’m a 9/3 or 10/2 guy) and slide the hands slightly, or should they allow their hands to cross and even get under the wheel? I watched another car review of the new McLaren GT, and the reviewers hands were crossing severely in higher speed curves, even to where his wrists were turned or cocked under neath the wheel. I asked about it and his answer didn’t make sense to me. To me, if you are crossed up or maxed out physicality in a turn, and then debris or an animal, or God forbid a person appear in that curve, how could you then turn more to avoid the obstacle??? You could only turn less, which could put you into oncoming traffic? I hope you understood my need for clarification and respect your opinion. That just flew in the face of what I understood to be the case.
Great question! And thanks for watching. Getting out for my first round of golf tomorrow. A little late in the season, I know. Anyway, always 9 and 3. I don’t know about any other reviewers on TH-cam, but I’ve been racing and teaching the craft for over 20 years. Cars are designed for 9 and 3 because it works for modern cars. Anything else is legacy nonsense that’s been passed on from older generations that pre-date power steering, modern tires, and suspension calibration. Stick with 9 and 3!
Man, I loved the video. The shots, your radio voice and the message was amazing. Would you consider driving 350Z/370Z or the oldest Fiesta ST? I would want to know your opinion on them and comparison to unbeatable MX5. Cheers mate, great job!
Thanks. I had fun with this one. Access to these cars is the thing. I'm persona non grata at Nissan, so that precludes any Z-car action and Ford certainly doesn't have any Fiesta STs sitting around. Great car, that FiST, but times have changed and there are other options now.
I will never give up my '04 Mazdaspeed Miata, but I would love to have an ND2 as a stable mate. BTW, is the brandname "Miata" history now? Is it the MX-5 only from now on?
@@BrianMakse I don;t track but I still want to drive like a sport car that grips the floor. Coming from an f80 m3 in my garage. I drove the club from the dlr loved it but never drove the sport yet. So wonder if it's a big diff and worth the extra spend?
Like the demo, but why bring up stuff like entertainment system all the time? That has nothing to do with driving/handling or feel of a sports car. It has everything to do with a motorcar that's pushing < 13 lbs./horsepower. Now, as for the exhaust sound... I went with the Racing Beat Power Pulse muffler. You won't be sorry for spending about $470.00 for it. I originally bought it for the 16 MX-5 automatic, then I transferred it to the 17 manual, then to the new 2019 w/manual trans. So far, close to 90K miles on the muffler and no problems.
Mazda is trying to get up there in the Luxury segment so it’s good to note it real quick (it’ll weed out the tech nerds too). If you want better infotainment go for the CX- line the Miata already has the best infotainment system: legendary handling and top down fun.
The 2019 2.0 liter is already two upgrades over the original engine. The JDM version gets a 1.5 liter with only 132hp. The USDM got the 2.0 and then this year got the hp boost in the upper end. Mazda explained that they could not fit their 2.5 liter into the Miata chassis (for production. I know Flyin' Miata shoehorns a V8 in there.)
Thank God there are still manufacturers who are not fucking up their cars with damn turbos. More than likely this engine's lifespan (if you take care or your car) will be eternity plus one day. So no, we dont need a turbocharged engine. If you really need it there are a shitload of custom options out there in the market
The RF is 113 pounds heavier on the back of the car and has slightly stiffer springs in back to compensate. That's almost 5 percent of a 2332 pound car. Brian, does the soft top really handle "significantly" better? Is it that noticeable?
Brian Makse like it! I live in Ojai (O-HI), in Ventura County, just North of LA County. I’m surrounded by twisting, mountain roads like these you were driving in.
@@HackerMan46 Sheesh, there are rumours about everything going electrified, but we aren't going to find the truth in the comments here, that's for sure.
This is an excellent review! One of the best i’ve seen for this car. Well done! Subscribed!
Thanks, but don’t tell us, tell your friends and share on Reddit. And be sure to hit up our merch store!
I love the simplicity (in today’s standards) of the MX-5 with the 6-speed manual and normally aspirated engine. And by the way, the 2019 MX-5 has been rated no. 1 in reliability by Consumer Report, beating all the Toyotas including the Corolla. I have a 12 year old MX-5 and it’s the most reliable car I ever had and I’ve had 13 cars for more than 40 years.
Awesome, I cant wait to turn in my 2018 Acura ilx for a miata . I've had only honda and acuras as my commuters due to reliability but I need something fun . I'm putting too many miles on my mustang because the ilx is so boring .
The improved production quality and camera positions have served you well Homeslice!
Onward and Upward!
I shot this in May.
I just wanted to say thank you. I watched this review and many others before buying my 2020 club. I never knew I could love a car quite this much.
We went in 50/50 on the roadster vs RF and drove home with the roadster. The RF just felt like a lot of compromise, plus more money, complexity, weight and blind spots. I see a lot of reviews that minimize that weight penalty, and in most cars that would make sense, but on a car so light, it seems egregious.
I’m not sure how I helped, but I’m glad you’re happy. The roadster is the way to go. Enjoy!
The day they add a green option is the day I wont be able to resit buying one....specially if it is a medium-dark green metallic.
Brilliant I am going to get one to complement my WRX wagon to relive my MGB TR
I got caught in a HEAVY downpour on the interstate in my Roadster with the top down. I rolled up the windows and barely a drop got on me, crazy. (2019 base model) I was running the 16" base wheels, Yokohama Advan Sport stock tires and was able to comfortably maintain between 60-70 MPH.
I remember getting caught in that rain storm…
Good review Brian ! The ND / ND2 are amazing cars in the world today as its price is affordable & there are not many of roadsters that you can say that about. Mazda is changing their infotainment system but its on the CX-9 & soon the CX-5. Eventually the MX-5 will get the updates. I didn't buy my 2016 MX-5 Club for the infotainment system. It works fine so does the navigation system once you find out the quirks. No car before this one has provided so much driving fun ! Even in the cold weather put the winter tires on & its almost as fun in snow. Love this car & what Mazda engineers designed. That Hush O Matic cat back active exhaust was a great mod from Flying Miata !
Thanks, Alan. As long as I can have CarPlay, the infotainment doesn’t matter to me. It’s effective and, most importantly, not distracting. Flyin Miata does good work!
Brilliant I will buy one to relive my 2 MGBs a TR, & Fiat 124 sport days & to complement my current WRX wagon thanks for your great reviews 👍 Paul
That'll be a great garage! Glad you enjoyed the episode.
Subscribed! Love your channel and coverage on fun cars. Also admire your FWD/RWD racing insight and experience.
Cheers! Thanks, BD!
That is one good looking MX-5👍👍. My 16 Club with a Good-Win exhaust, Karcepts sway bar, adjustable Koni’s...just about perfect. Yes, I would like to have the 18 more hp, but not cost effective to me to trade. Agreed with your take on the car. It is a “drivers” car. Great sports car road and scenery👍😎 Nice review, Thanks👍👍
Glad you enjoyed our work. That was a fun episode to shoot.
Visited Flyin' Miata today in Palisade, CO! It's in the middle of orchards.
Pretty cool, isn’t it? Great roads out there, too.
Really like that the review includes some tougher driving with views from both inside and outside the car. Thx.
Glad you liked it! This is one of the literal handful of channels where the host can actually drive, so we work to showcase that as often as possible.
Fantastic review
Glad you liked it!
I am picking up a 2023 MX5 GSP w/sport package (Club) on Monday! I traded in my 2017 MX5 GSP. Hopefully I will see a difference in performance and handling as the new one has the KPC programming. Let’s see! If you are ever in Montreal and want to shoot an updated review let me know as it would be my pleasure to have you use my vehicle. Cheers!
Do you know if the Recaro seats offer any more or less legroom? I am 6' tall and could use the slightest amount more.
"if you some how miss a shift that's your mistake" 5:25
True. Just bought a 2019 and I came from my '97 cobra 5 speed. I have been consistently shifting second to fifth, instead of second to third. Not used to the tighter gates of the six speed on a much smaller car.
That'll come with practice. Enjoy!
Great video! I remember watching your flyin’ Miata video, glad you’re still making reviews
Thanks. How much longer we make vids is tbd.
I am waiting my 2022 mx5, cominh to dealership in few weeks. Cant wait!
You’ll love it!
Really good review as usual.
Thanks. I had a tremendous amount of fun with this one.
The same retrofitting upgrade that gets you Apple Carplay will also get you Android Auto. Completely worth it.
Here in Cali that CarPlay upgrade is $500 from the dealer. And, you’re stuck with Apple's crummy Maps app. The MX-5's native navigation app bites too. Google Maps is all I use anymore: it’s on all my devices, along with favorite destinations, my contacts list, etc., and it looks great on my iPhone RX's screen.
How do I get all my favorite apps, including podcasts, Apple Music, Google Maps, Waze, and other valued traveling companions to pair up with Mazda's quirky infotainment system? The solution for my ‘19 Miata is to use the (free) Bluetooth feature to successfully run all my apps, not just the ones Apple thinks will be best for me. Another benefit: I kept Mazda from gouging me out of $500 for a feature they should be including as standard equipment.
John, I negotiated CarPlay/Android Auto upgrade as a condition of purchase. Contrary to your misperception, I have Google Maps, Waze, and Apple Maps to choose from on my ND2's screen.
Japanese aftermarket is great, too. LEG Roadsports and AutoExe Roadsports has some good support for the ND2. Flyin Miata has great instructional installation videos on bolt on modifications which is great
I like their ND V8 the most!
Excellent video, I just purchased a 2020 Club with Brembo package/Recaro seats. Thank you for the excellent review
Congrats! Glad you enjoyed the vid. Testing a base MX-5 this week, coincidentally.
First time seeing your show fantastic work really good quality and good narrating
Thanks and welcome!
Sincerely excellent review
I just came across this review and thought it was excellent, really enjoyed your delivery and opinion.
This being said, i wanted to ask if how would you rate an NC2 in comparison to this on driving dynamics?
ND right now is outside my budget and I actually really like the looks on NC2.
I'm very much interested in your take on that, so do let me know.
I have very little NC2 experience beyond race cars. I don't recall driving one on the road, actually. That said, buy what you like!
Solid review. Really considering picking one of these up next spring for a toy.
Do it!
Good job. Enjoyed watching the car. Not too much talk. Covered the essentials as I see it.
Thanks for watching! Hope you stick around!
I love this guy, Check out his other video”Base is ace” . One of the purest car video I’ve seen. No one ever looks at the base model, after watching his video I honestly want a base model, because it really fits my needs. Really, how many of us lives next to a race track or even track our cars.
Thanks, M! Much appreciated!
Very nice review. Makes me wish it wasn't snowing, so I could get the Miata out.
That’s a great time to take your Miata for a spin.
Brilliant review with lots of good information.
Thanks. Hope you stick around.
Awesome video!
Just ordered a 2020 MX-5 earlier in the week, and can't wait for it to arrive. Got almost the exact car featured in this video: Club trim, soft top, manual, in red. The only thing I didn't get was the Recaro/BBS/Brembo package, as I didn't fit comfortably in the Recaros, and for 2020 you can no longer get the BBS/Brembos as a standalone package without the Recaros as you could in 2019. Gonna drive it stock for a while though, and then I can always go aftermarket if I feel like I need more.
Thanks, we don't disagree, but don't tell us, tell your friends, share it on Reddit and your social, and hit up our merch store!
You probably don't need to tweak it unless there's something specific you're looking for. Good thing the aftermarket is deep.
Just to consider Flyin Miata made 16hp & 8 ft lb with just an axle back/mid pipe from the 2019.
Great review!!! I completely agree with you. I have the same fun everytime I drive my NC. Even our NA gives nearly the same fun to drive feeling, although its 28 years old! If you don't have a MX5, buy one, you won't regret it! I would like to have an ND, but hate to sell my NC. And 3 mx5's? Mmmm maybe I can convince my wife. haha would be nice..
I don't recall testing many NCs, but I did race a few. Just buy an ND2 and be happy!
The ND has the best chassis and engine of all miatas. Maybe consider it haha
Any thoughts on driving this vehicle in the winter/snow with the appropriate winter tires? Tx.
It’d be a blast!
@@BrianMakse You got that right Brian. I have a set of dedicated winter tires Michelin X-Ice 3 for my 2016 Club. Its amazing that this car thrills in just about ANY weather.
Great review, thanks! Love the Ghost Speedo
It’s magic!
Sold my Ferrari 360 Spyder and awaiting delivery of my new Mx5 soft top.
Do you think the Eibach lowering springs would make the handling even better?
Dunno. Depends if they are a match for the standard dampers' compression and rebound curves. For anything aftermarket, start with Flyin' Miata.
Great review, really wow
Enjoyable as always, Brian.
I have a question for you: While driving aggressively, especially through curves, should a driver try to keep his hands on top of the wheel in front of them, (I’m a 9/3 or 10/2 guy) and slide the hands slightly, or should they allow their hands to cross and even get under the wheel? I watched another car review of the new McLaren GT, and the reviewers hands were crossing severely in higher speed curves, even to where his wrists were turned or cocked under neath the wheel. I asked about it and his answer didn’t make sense to me. To me, if you are crossed up or maxed out physicality in a turn, and then debris or an animal, or God forbid a person appear in that curve, how could you then turn more to avoid the obstacle??? You could only turn less, which could put you into oncoming traffic? I hope you understood my need for clarification and respect your opinion. That just flew in the face of what I understood to be the case.
Great question! And thanks for watching. Getting out for my first round of golf tomorrow. A little late in the season, I know. Anyway, always 9 and 3. I don’t know about any other reviewers on TH-cam, but I’ve been racing and teaching the craft for over 20 years. Cars are designed for 9 and 3 because it works for modern cars. Anything else is legacy nonsense that’s been passed on from older generations that pre-date power steering, modern tires, and suspension calibration. Stick with 9 and 3!
Man, I loved the video. The shots, your radio voice and the message was amazing. Would you consider driving 350Z/370Z or the oldest Fiesta ST? I would want to know your opinion on them and comparison to unbeatable MX5. Cheers mate, great job!
Thanks. I had fun with this one. Access to these cars is the thing. I'm persona non grata at Nissan, so that precludes any Z-car action and Ford certainly doesn't have any Fiesta STs sitting around. Great car, that FiST, but times have changed and there are other options now.
Will installing the Flying Miata parts affect or void the warranty?
No. If you’re in the US, there are specific laws that protect you.
Love this review.
Glad you enjoyed it!
RF model for me. I think it looks so much better with the roof on.
It’s not about looks, it’s about the drive.
I will never give up my '04 Mazdaspeed Miata, but I would love to have an ND2 as a stable mate.
BTW, is the brandname "Miata" history now? Is it the MX-5 only from now on?
They seem to be flip-flopping on the naming of this car. It was the MX-5 when they launched it, now it’s this.
which should I buy sport or club???
How are you going to use it?
@@BrianMakse I don;t track but I still want to drive like a sport car that grips the floor. Coming from an f80 m3 in my garage.
I drove the club from the dlr loved it but never drove the sport yet. So wonder if it's a big diff and worth the extra spend?
Yes. IIRC you’ll want the Club because it comes with all the desirable bits.
You get bilstein dampers, bbs rims, and Brembo brakes with the club.
Great review. Long Road Racing is another great option for doing the right after market mods.
Not any longer. They’re closed.
Brian Makse Dang, I’m out of the loop. That’s to bad.
Where is this trail sir? Love to try it in my club.
Where do you live?
Save the manuals
Is the gas pedal mounted to the floor?
Don’t recall. Should be a pedal box shot in this video or a subsequent MX-5 episode.
Yes
Mazda should be paying you full time)) fantastic video fantastic car
Glad you enjoyed that, Allan. I loved driving that car in that spot!
Is it automatic??
How can you tell the difference? I’m not sure.
It is sport mode, ALL THE TIME!!!
That’s one way to look at it!
Looks like he's listening to My Type EP from Saint Motel
He has bad and diverse tastes in music.
Mine is getting a BBR turbo kit:)
Curious why you chose that kit.
Can you update how the kit went?
Ok to be a drive around town kind of car ? In this package
This is the not the one. Check my review of the base MX-5.
@@BrianMakse that was a great video ! Ok thank you Brian
I'm counting the days till my Acura Ilx lease goes back . I need a more enjoyable commuter car so I can keep the miles low on my mustang .
Like the demo, but why bring up stuff like entertainment system all the time? That has nothing to do with driving/handling or feel of a sports car. It has everything to do with a motorcar that's pushing < 13 lbs./horsepower. Now, as for the exhaust sound... I went with the Racing Beat Power Pulse muffler. You won't be sorry for spending about $470.00 for it. I originally bought it for the 16 MX-5 automatic, then I transferred it to the 17 manual, then to the new 2019 w/manual trans. So far, close to 90K miles on the muffler and no problems.
All of the time? I addressed it once. It's inexcusably horrific for 2019. Why would you ever buy an MX-5 with an automatic?
Mazda is trying to get up there in the Luxury segment so it’s good to note it real quick (it’ll weed out the tech nerds too). If you want better infotainment go for the CX- line the Miata already has the best infotainment system: legendary handling and top down fun.
What a bummer Mazda didn’t put their 2.5T in this car. It should have been an option.
The 2019 2.0 liter is already two upgrades over the original engine. The JDM version gets a 1.5 liter with only 132hp. The USDM got the 2.0 and then this year got the hp boost in the upper end. Mazda explained that they could not fit their 2.5 liter into the Miata chassis (for production. I know Flyin' Miata shoehorns a V8 in there.)
Thank God there are still manufacturers who are not fucking up their cars with damn turbos. More than likely this engine's lifespan (if you take care or your car) will be eternity plus one day. So no, we dont need a turbocharged engine. If you really need it there are a shitload of custom options out there in the market
Absolutely not. Thank god Mazda knows better than to listed to uninformed opinions like yours.
Rf looks better. and top down give you a wind wing. and handels curves better
1. That’s personal preference. 2. No idea what a wind wing is. 3. Roadster handles significantly better than RF.
The RF is 113 pounds heavier on the back of the car and has slightly stiffer springs in back to compensate. That's almost 5 percent of a 2332 pound car.
Brian, does the soft top really handle "significantly" better? Is it that noticeable?
It sure is. Plus the RF is annoying with the roof open.
@@BrianMakse Annoying in the sense of wind noise? If so, other reviewers have mentioned that too.
Yep, covered that in my review.
Looks like you’re in SoCal.
I get around. My local roads suck as much as the winter weather, so I have to find better scenery.
Brian Makse like it! I live in Ojai (O-HI), in Ventura County, just North of LA County. I’m surrounded by twisting, mountain roads like these you were driving in.
Love Ojai! Kinda jealous. I’m more of an Orange County kinda bloke, though.
Manuals 💯😎😎😎
Save the manuals!
If I was to have an ND I would have the RF actually
370S doesn't have a sport more thank god
I haven't driven one in what seems like a decade.
Cheeky speedo ;)
I vaguely recall what I did there.
I better get the gas Mazda before 2022 how can you shift Battery operated cars
huh?
@@BrianMakse i think he tried to refer to the rumors regarding a possible hybrid Miata for the next iteration
@@HackerMan46 Sheesh, there are rumours about everything going electrified, but we aren't going to find the truth in the comments here, that's for sure.
@@BrianMakse no doubt about that
MAZDA not Mawwwwzda
What?
Wtf
@@BrateTebra123 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
there is NO way this car gets 60hp more from just an exhaust system
There is NO way anyone said 60hp from an exhaust.
@@BrianMakse I thought you said 60 as well but I suppose it was 16 HP. Great review by the way. I'm seriously considering this for my next vehicle.
@@johnnyd768 you should, it's brilliant!