2019 Mazda MX-5 RF // Now more fun for the whole fam- wait, no, still just you.
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Meanwhile the Toyota 86 is now even slower than the Miata. Great job Mazda! Showing the big companies who not to be lazy
Blake Swan toyota lost its magic years ago. And honestly I'd get a Veloster Turbo(2nd gen) over the super slow and expensive 86 or the two seater Miata.
The Miata was already faster, now it's just quite a bit faster. And please no don't compare a Veloster Turbo to this. I had a Veloster Turbo and that was a quick econobox, not a fun roadster. The Veloster was only fun once it was extremely modded.
The Adventure Mazda I was talking about the 2nd gen veloster and Veloster N. I get why you're upset since you're a Mazda fan but the truth is always harsh.
Jun Tak I havent been able to drive the new Veloster so I cant make a full comparison, but the engine is the exact same and it was a dog before...very laggy. I was a huge Hyundai fanboy before I test drove a Maxda3 because my VT was falling apart on me. Leaps and bounds better driving experience, I could never go back.
I drive 10th gen civic, which I like driving as I find it fun. How would you guys describe and compare it to Miata and Veloster? Idk much that's why I'm asking
Tell you what, you pronounced Matsuda pretty accurately, good job.
You had me at telescoping steering wheel. That's all I ever wanted from the MX5. This will be my summer mid life crisis car.
Sooo did you get it? How is it?
@@cantsolvesudokus He flipped it and died.
Reason I got the ND2, plus android Auto, and higher redline
I haven't seen a bad review on this car yet. Good job Mazda.
me too...
There isn’t one. Literally every review is drooling over it.. I’ve watched like 100 reviews too lol.. not a single negative one
The only complain (that was expected) was the trunk's capacity but lets be real, who fills his trunk on a daily basis?
I’ve seen them out there. Some complain it’s too soft of suspension and has too much body roll... that maybe be the case but just put coilovers on and strut tower bars and your good.
@@daldrete01 Honestly, the trunk space is pretty damn good for what it is. I daily drive mine and can fit a completely full cart's worth of groceries in it. I can't imagine needing to haul more than that. If you need to get some large luggage to the airport or something, you'll just have to call a shuttle.
This refresh feels really akin to the NA miata's 93' to 94' refresh when it got the 1.8 motor
Best review so far for the 2019 MX-5. Answered all my questions and then some...
engine, flywheel, steering wheel, exhaust, RF wind noise, recaro seats, drive impression, comparison to 2018. Overall just an excellent detailed review. Subscribed.
Ditto. Subscribed. Any chance for a 370Z Nismo review?
Im watching this video... while my ND RF is in my driveway... actually brb
I want one so bad. I think I'll wait for the first batch of used ones to show up for a nice discount. That being said, the 2016's are starting to become a serious bargain on the used market.
What are you wanting for get a used ND 16, 17, the 19 is not a big difference. Just tune, headers and exhaust and you'll get more power than the 19
Best fun affordable car mx5ND I might just save the cash and get a 16 or 17, yeah.. I like high revving motors though, and the fact that the new one is balanced better is appealing as well. That makes a big difference in how refined the car feels. But still, a 16 would be roughly 10k cheaper hard to beat that.
Best fun affordable car mx5ND redline is much nice than extra power.
Just do it! I got a 2016 2.0 Liter for a big deal! I'm in love
Andrea Bonezzi buy me one daddy
It has more charm than a box full of tiny kittens.
Its legendary reliability, and sublime handling, all at sedate sensible speeds,
Heads will roll, if the Hiroshima plant, introduce any silly hybrid or electric version.
keep it simple, and petrol driven, and us customers will continue to worship it.
Just drove my manual (why does this car even come in automatic?) 2019 MX-5 RF in Soul Red home tonight. Delightful.
For ppl like me where i due to health issues i can only drive an automatic ...thank god ...😉
11:50 You can also adjust the volume with your left thumb on the steering wheel, much easier.
My favorite Mazda by a country mile - what a beautiful ride. Wish all of the MX-5s could have the RF modifications!
All the MX-5s *do* have the RF modifications! What are you taking about?
Great review Kudos Mazda, for making the MX 5 even better
lol, love how blunt you were on all the pronunciation silliness. Overall, excellent review and thanks for sharing.
My brother just bought a 2019 Club softtop. I am just so sold on these now that I've driven one.
Just got a 2019 2.0L MX-5 RF ...great fun , every trip is a delight 😀
Im between an ND2 Miata or Veloster N :(
@@Aurablade77 same
I have one thing to say, excellent review, thank you.
Easily the best review I've seen on the new Miata by a mile. Awesome job!
It was good, but Alex on Autos always knocks it out of the park.
All MX5 reviewers get caught smiling a lot when driving them - enough said.
Good review! Makes me miss my NBv2, but I look forward to picking up a NDv2 soft top in its 2nd production year (still sore about the NBv2 "155hp" claim).
BTW, single mass and dual mass flywheels don't really refer to the overall mass/weight of the flywheel per se, but to different designs (albeit the dual mass FW tend to be heavier, yes). Thus, I'm not sure you should be looking at the rate of engine speed change to determine the difference. Maybe observe how the clutch engages and whether the drivetrain is smoothed out during normal operation?
Subscribed! I like the way you review cars. Emotional, informed, detailed. Keep up that quality!
The MX-5 RF is a wonderful little drivers car. I own the 2017 and i am still flashed on every kilometer it moves.
So all you sporty drivers...Do not order the recaro seats. Forget about wind noise - its an "into the elements car". Enjoy the telepathic manual transmission and the precise steering. Get your hands on the ND!
Why not recaros?
Yeah why don't you recommend the recaro ? For comfort ?
Lodoïs Raux For shape and comfort reasons. They're too small and bent for drivers above 1,80.
Recaros hold you in place perfectly but the are not for the more generously proportioned among us.
These Recaros are just fantastic for people all around the globe, pot. as you said despite the US/Canada as you guys are, let’s say, somewhat „bigger“ Gentlemen… please continue with your great reviews, some of the best in the industry✅
Mazda worked tirelessly to remove weight from the car then you ruin it with your fat ass
Great review, subscribed. Keep up the good job!
Welcome!
Used to have a '67 Chevelle SS with '66 Corvette engine that was well built - 8,000 RPM redline. That's an awesome sound!
Nice video, thanks! I'm looking to pull the trigger on a 2.0 RF sport nav. I've driven the 2018 and it was an absolute blast especially with the top down. 2nd gear is my favourite. 3rd is a bit more slow burner. I do like to rev hard and go through the gears. I thought the 2018 sound was great and it seemed to have plenty of power and excitement. I'm not sure about the trade off between higher revs and more usable gears. I think I'm settled on ceramic metallic but am going to see the eternal blue and red this weekend. I'm still unsure whether to go 2018 or 2019. The best price I've found the 2019 new is about £25k. The 2018 I can get new one for £21k or 22k so roughly a 12%-16% saving. What do you think?
I just did a video on why I picked up the 2018 over the 2019 and what you start talking about at the 4-minute mark is why I went 2018 over 2019... especially when coupled with thousands of dollars in savings. Anyway, I’m still glad Mazda is investing in and improving upon the Miata platform.
Give us the link mate.
You are fast becoming my favorite YT auto reviewer. Keep up the good work.
Nice video. If you live in a warm weather climate would you spend the extra $2k (US) and get the RF or go for the soft top?
I love my 2004 Mazdaspeed NB miata I'll make it my secondary if I could the 2019 RF should be on par with it.
I found it funny , at 14:00, that you mention the NC and how it fits you better than the NA or NB. In 2018 I lusted after the ND RF , but at 6’2” I just couldn’t make it work. Thus the NC PRHT in my garage....and I get hydraulic steering to boot.
Fine review. I had an NC years ago.
I’ve had my 2022 Miata for about a year now and I thought the same as you about those seats. But after awhile it kind of breaks in and it doesn’t push into my legs as bad anymore. Much more comfortable now.
That Mazda Pronunciation comment made me instantly subscribe lol
great video, and very fun little car
Forget the power or the new electronic gizmos... what I really want from that car in my 2017 ND is the telescoping steering wheel. My arms are a bit too short for my height (about a cm or two) and I can't find a completely satisfying driving position in my car, no matter what I try. I'm either too far from the wheel to steer properly or too close to it to comfortably work the pedals. It's not a huge deal, but it is noticeable in a daily driver.
1SaG do you find yourself desiring to eat raw meat and run in packs? Do you have a large tale? How did you outsmart that huge meteor around the cretaceous period 165 million years ago? This is fascinating.
There was a guy on the miata dot net forum who was building a spacer kit. Not sure if he ever finished it.
"High revving engines are my favorite thing in the world."
Proceeds to shift at 4k.
he's Canadian 🥴
4k metric is like 8k US.
It was a new test vehicle he’s not gonna redline it when it’s still in its break in
Great review..l wonder if Mazda made a sun visor that flips up and then extends above the winds screen line above to deflect the oncoming air.That may solve the wind howl behind your head.Just a simple idea..May work..Down under Australia
Love the title haha 😂
3:00
That kinda sounded like a 4age for a moment. Woah!
Great review!
Great review, well presented and interesting, thanks
My wife loves her 2020 RF and holy hell when I drive it, it makes me feel like a kid
Remove the rear plastic wind blocker and it will let air flow through the cabin more, cutting down on turbulance and buffeting. Better visibility our the rear too.
Great video mate. I love my 2018 RF, but I would sell body parts for the recaros, brembos and the new engine.
New engine only more powerful above 6000 rpm. Actually less powerful up to 3500 rpm. Definetively agree with the Recarro's. Sure I wouldn't mind the new engine, but it is a bit up to how you drive it.
Bought a RF-GT mx5 2020....best car ever
This was awesome
Great outdoor footage.👍
Great review 😎👊
Tip from a 2021 RF Club owner- take out that wind diffuser and it's actually a bit quieter.
Finally drove 19 MX-5 RF GT (sadly no GT-S package on this one) and 18 Abarth back to back.
I thought I'd get my answer driving them both but I definitely didn't.
I like Fiat's seats, steering wheel, steering feel and weight more, I like that the clutch and shifter are heavier and require more effort, and it's mid-range turbo torque is probably better for city driving. It also can be easily tuned to get more power (and maybe make the power band broader and reduce turbo lag). And I think I like the exhaust note more. Plus I've only seen two or three of them on the road vs lots of miatas.
I don't feel like 19 Miata is any slower than Abarth at my elevation (4000+ ft), even though Abarth does pull harder with its extra torque. Miata's engine is more enjoyable/fun to rev out up to 7500 rpm whereas Fiat has a nice punch but then runs out of breath at 5000 rpm and the redline is much lower as well. All inputs (steering, clutch, shifter, and other pedals) are much lighter than Fiat's (that I prefer) but the car feels lighter/smaller and more tossable overall. Miata also has softer suspension with a little more body roll. The clutch is easier to use than Fiat's. Telescoping steering column is nice but not a deal breaker.
There are certain things I like more about the Fiat but I think Miata makes a better package as a whole. Miata is soft, progressive, and better balanced, and Fiat is more in your face and a bit sharper/edgier.
I am not entirely sure which one I like more. I think I'm leaning towards a soft top GT-S since it's a bit quicker and lighter.
And I am sure S2000 (owned an AP1 previously) still is a better car for fun purposes and I'm trying to make myself not consider one (I am so tempted to just go get an AP2) since it's not that great when it comes to noise levels, fuel economy, range, and features (my car is used for road trips since my wife's 2016 Mazda 3 hatch GT is a lease).
Picking up my 2024 this Saturday! 👍
drove a "mahzda" and a "mAzda" mx-5 and they are identical.
The issue is, if one is driving exuberantly, one may want to push the car close to redline.
As that happens, in the ND2, one will be going up to the speed limit in second gear itself. In the ND1, one would have been in third at that same speed.
So now, if you need to slow down, in the ND1 one will have to down shift to 2nd, while in the ND2, because you were already in 2nd, you just ease off the throttle.
So the ND2 gives you a choice: don't go near redline and shift more, OR drive exuberantly to redline but shift less.
This is described at 4:00 avove.
Would you trade your NC for new one? I own a 08 NC Grand Touring Power Retractable HT. Love it. Good value!
Any news on the 30th Anniversary ? Videos? Good review BTW!
Nice video! Where's this road? Struggled to find a good long curvy road in ON.
I wonder who will post the first video of a 2016-2018 MX-5 Vs. a 2019 MX-5 on a track to see a side by side comparison the new upgrades to the engine have on lap times.
John Rivas
I would love to see that also. Great idea.
TheStraightPipes did it
Lap times won't be that much different...
Can you please mention at what speed the wind noise starts to get upsetting in your view? I've done a test drive but I was under 60 mph and didn't notice anything out of the ordinary.
Yes, finally another person that appreciates how a naturally aspirated makes you feel. Everyone keeps telling me to get a turbo engine and swap it. But I plan to just build the NA and make it rev higher and make just a bit more power. It has 170hp right now and I plan to break 200hp (crank) with it. That with a manual 6 speed will be so much fun. It’s pretty fun right now because I can R.E.V. it out and it smoothly makes it way up to the rev limiter that bangs (ignition cut off) if I spin it off the line. turbos May be faster and some people like that burst of power (which I hate that) but I prefer a constant and smooth engine. Sure you can learn to keep the car in boost and not have that lag, but it’s just not the same. You can’t get the sound of the mechanical engine working. When you have a turbo drowning it out. Sorry if I offended any turbo owners. Those engines are great too. I just appreciate an NA engine a lot more. Especially the 5 cylinder I drive. The sound is pretty interesting too. Less muffled.
I'm driving a RV tomorrow. Looking forward to it. I wonder about the wind noise. Open tops are noisy plain and simple so I can't help but wonder if some aren't overacting. Perhaps a coupe would suit them better.
I’m buying it!
The paint color of red was tweeted. “More of a deep candy apple 🍎 red “in the year 2019 , It’s undisclosed . Just a few decimals darker . This came from the Mazda dealership repair shop .
Great review! I owned an ‘06 Miata NC with cold air intake, upgraded exhaust, ACT clutch and Bilsteins. How much better is this 2019 car to a modded NC? (I ask because you mentioned that you own an NC). This RF definitely looks amazing and I’m considering upgrading; sounds like you are, too.
Same question as well. I also own a NC w/muffler upgrade. Skipped gen1 ND bc it wasnt as comfortable as the NC.
I'm not sold on the RF. I hear the wind noise (not just in this review) is pretty bad, and it's heavier, and it's more expensive. But the engine is a big deal. Think about it. People have been complaining about the power since 1989 when the first came out. If I bought a 2018 (I didn't) I think I'd be feeling pretty bad about my purchase after watching this review.
Bet that it improves the car same as the mods on the nc.
My dream car😍😍😍😍
I could not agree more, high revving NA engines are the best thing in the world.
Mario Paul pure blue rock meth is
Interesting observation about 2nd gear going to 100km/hr. Offsets impression of ND1 somewhat in terms of more rowing enjoyment whilst retaining one's license.
What road are you driving on, I'm looking for some twisty roads in southern Ontario?
By the way 2 days ago I just picked up a 2019 MX-5 Miata RF club with a brembos BBS and recaros such a fun car.
Thank you for letting us know what the horsepower and torque is.
I'd love an update that discusses the 2022 and KPC both on track and on the road.
Not only because I'm waiting for delivery, but mostly because i'm waiting for delivery of my 2022.
Enjoy your video. I love my nd and took her for a cruise after watching your video 🦅🦅🇺🇸
Sweet Juice!
Should do a review of the 2019 MAZDA Mx5 now and compare it to this 2019 MAHZDA Miata
3:32 Also, 8000 is really close to 9000. This is almost a 9000 RPM motor!
And the. After that, it’s OVER 9000!!!
A few more revs.....that's a 10 grand motor !
Throttle House you’re even cooler now
just don't go past 11k
Forget the power, telescoping steering wheel is huge. The ability to have good ergonomics is a great update.
I can't believe how many people gloss over this fact! The power doesn't mean anything since that's easy to make in the aftermarket for fairly cheap. The telescoping wheel on the other hand!!!!! That is the ONLY reason I cared about the ND2 update to begin with back when news first really started to trickle out.
ALCLCF the driving position in the ND is very good factory for me as well (rare in a Miata, and I'm definitely not tall lol), but I have always wished the wheel could be closer to me without using a spacer on the car (drive an NC now).
I know there are a TON of people who just can't get the perfect driving position in the Miata, and the telescoping wheel is the missing link I think.
FACTS
We are literally talking about apples and oranges when we talk about weight different between NC and ND.. but I digress, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK 🤔? Previous and current owners.
Sold my ap1 s2000 (high mileage,almost 200k lol) and bought a 22 club with performance pack in sole red Manuel. I can’t wait for it to show up
Any updates? Hope you're enjoying your ND!
I've found that wind noise is better if you crack the window open so you have about a 1 inch gap between it's leading edge and the door. Still not great, but acceptable.
I bought a new ‘18 GT in late July 2018, just before the ‘19s with the new engines started arriving. No regrets, because I got a terrific deal on my ‘18. Would it be nice to have more hp? Of course, but I don’t spend a lot of time driving at high rpms where you actually get the benefit of the extra hp. And since torque only went up 3 lb-ft, I’m not really missing that either. Would be nice to have a nicer exhaust note, but I’ll likely buy a good axle-back this spring to improve the sound.
One note about the regular drop-top vs. RF: I got the standard convertible top. The RF looks amazing, but besides the wind noise Thomas talked about, you’ve got a huge blind spots to content with all the time (especially on the passenger side), regardless of whether the roof is up or down. As much as I like the looks of the RF, top up or down, I love my normal drop-top.
Hey brother, I have a 2018 rf gt as well, ulter sport exhaust was probably my favorite mod so far aside from the power roof which lets me put it down at whatever speed under 60MPH that I want. Definitely recommend it, diffuse plus an exhaust for under $900 is a steal
I see you guys are filming these in Ontario. I recently ordered a MX5. Could you let us know some B roads like you filmed this on.
6'0 277 pounds.
I love my 2016 miata.
Your steering wheel looks thicker than OEM???
A light fly wheel would make revs drop faster, so I'm not sure what you mean.
Excellent intake noise in intro. Where did you stick he microphone!
That’s Exhaust noise actually
Yes I am 5’10” as well the seat all the way back and the steering wheel all the way out is exactly perfect. If you are over 6’ this is not the car for u
That new red is so deep and beautiful
4 stage paint looks great! RIP your wallet if you damage it though
not new anymore lol
Albert Maniscalco new since 2018 yes it is
Who are you though?
Gearing is perfect
I am wondering if you can drive this car all year around in a winter country? Thanx, great review!
Sure can. Just get snow tires
Driving my NC PRHT at the edge of the Swabian Jura in Germany. We do get snow here, there are even a few small skiing areas around.
Get good winter tires, maybe chains, depending on the road service you get where you live, and you're all set.
It’s pronounced Mazda not Mazda! Jeez! 😉 kidding, but seriously awesome review. This is my top choice for when I get back in the states next year! Very excited!
In A Merica it’s spelt Mussda not Mazda.
Dear Throttle, Does the soft top also got the Wind Noisy issue when top down or not ?
Soft top doesn't have it. It's the 1 annoying thing about the RF. If you like to drive top down a lot, get the soft top. Otherwise, RF is fine.
Just bought a 2017 GS Sport with Recaro, Brembo and BBS. My daily is Tesla and I wanted a basic manual drop top. It will be my 8th MX5. My first was a 1990 NA, I also had a 1997 STO, 2004 NB Mazdaspeed, and a 2006 NC GT. Needless to say I like my Miatas. Looking forward to the ND1. I’m not an aggressive driver or need for speed so the ND1 vs ND2 isn’t an issue for me. I’m in Montreal and price is a factor for a Sunday toy. Your channel is fantastic! Thank you.
Call me crazy but I like the hard top NC better. With the top down looks almost the same as the soft top and with the top up its a cool Darth Vader.
Maybe now it's the time to get a 2013-2014 NC at a good price. Yes, less power, worse mpg, but a classier car, and the money you save can pay you tons fuel.
I like them better with the top down, too. With the top up, I do like the ND look tho. But I don't think I could live with not being able to put the roof away completely.
Just bought a PRHT with 30,000miles for less than 16,000. The condition is great. One of the biggest difference between nd and nc hard top is that when you close the top, nc has less wind noise.
Not to mention. The price difference can get me a full upgrade of suspension system, super charger, race sests, great looking bumpers... Wait, I still have some money left?
Agree. I have a 2014 NC PRHT. Love the look and the fact that it’s slightly bigger.
And for those of us that exceed the 6’ height restriction that comes with the ND, the NC is our more comfortable option.
I’m 6’2” , 180lb, and just fit in the NC. I took a pass on the ND when I bought my 2011 PRHT last year because of the tighter confines.
What a great video. :) I need your help. I've got a MAZDA Mx5 RF and my parking ticket that placed on the dashboard fell inside in between the window and the dash. Will there be any hazards If i just leave it there? Can my ticket catch fire or ignite something? The ticket fell on the passenger seat side of the dash.
eskimoblue It will explode the car as soon as you go 120 mph.
5’6”, 140 lbs, 31” waist and I LOVE the Recaros! They couldn’t be more comfortable if a tailor took my measurements and custom made ‘em for me. 😊 Sorry, Thomas, that you don’t fit well but, what can I say? Life’s unfair. 😉
Richard I agree
I've watched video's of the 2016, 17, 18 and now the 2019 MX-5's and all of them complained about not enough power from the engine.... The 2019 has more power. But now they're complaining about not being able to run thru all the gears without going over the speed limit? What if they owned a Corvette or a Camaro? The next complaint is the old problem with wind noise... this is another bullshit item with only one answer for those talking this crap about a true "ROADSTER". As a young man back in the 1960's, I owned, both the '64 and '66 MGB's.. noisy, rough riding and wind noise are what true roadster's are all about. Don't want all that.... buy a damned Cadillac and be done with it. My 1st MX-5 was the 2016 w/auto trans... I'm in my '70's and thought an automatic trans was my speed these days, but I found the automatic trans too boring for my taste, even now. I then bought a 2017 with manual trans. I couldn't stay out of the damned thing! Then they bring out the 2019 with more horse power and some other added things that I couldn't care less about... I've had it about 3 mos. now and I'm right at 4,000 miles so far. I love this roadster more than any other I've owned or just driven in my lifetime.
Can you use regular gas in this model Miata?
What does the ND stand for ?
I’ve owned 3 Miatas and 2 RX7s. My 2020 Miata RF GT is the best Miata by far. The GT now comes with the sport pkg, Apple CarPlay, and the black roof. But not if u get the auto. I’ve tweaked mine with all the mods from MX5things.com. Stuff Mazda should have changed!
Love the 2019.I miss my 2003. But almost $50,000 is a little much mazda. Thats car should topout at maybe $38000
looking for one now....hard to find ,
This is a 2.9 cayman manual?