What Is Happening at Man United?! | Crisis Explained
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1:48- Injuries
4:31- Season Comparison
5:20- Games per Season
7:15- Gary 0'Driscoll
13:36- Fa Cup Final
20:30- What happened at start of Season?
21:30- Sancho
30:00- Erik ten Hag: Stay or Go?
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What do you think is to blame?! Comment Below👇
Tired of all the trust in Ten Hag, I’ve been fed up since October, he’s gash. We need a new manager bounce if we’re gonna avoid a complete shafting at Wembley. Let’s get an interim in and try and win the cup FFS. Ole has a good record against Pep’s City, he’s not doing much… get him in quick on a 4-match contract.
No more over-hyped flavour of the month “tactical geniuses” who only know how to play one ineffective way and fall out with half the squad. ETH is the very definition of overhyped. We all fell for it, but gradually people are waking up.
This is 85% down to the players, 15% down to ten Haag. They are unprofessional, overpaid/hyped, some lacking required technical ability/had it but passed it. They need to go before any manager. Ineos recruit the players going forward, Ten Haag to play what's been identified - like it was at Ajax. Sell these weak players, play the new ones and if this fails after a few months next season then yes - EtH should go then - BUT NOT before these players!!
All of it, but the playing staff and medical staff have to be first replaced. The culture needs to completely change. I can imagine half the injuries are just players not wanting to play
Ralf said open heart surgery…..but it feels like Ten Hag hasn’t been given an anaesthetist and the operation keeps getting postponed.
Dejavu..... Sak
every manager... Players bigger than the club🤣
Remember when onana got lobbed against lens in pre season and we all thought "that's going to happen a few times this season" onana has been stuck on his goal line ever since with a back four standing on his toes.
It was a shot to his ego.
Ste will disagree and I’m sure he’ll have some stats to “back himself” but I think he’s been awful.
Just the basics. Diving correctly, foot movement etc.
Remember when he gave the defenders a bollocking lol hes fecking useless
@@ianmcdonald3053 It's worse. He picked Maguire out of everyone because he knew he was already being scapegoated. Onana is a clown.
He was told never to leave his box ever again 😅
@@MrKajjaGG yeah he went for social media clout doing that, he’s definitely caused us some bad juju
Started around the league cup win. Been average to poor to awful to diabolical ever since. Something happened in around that Cup Final, which fundamentally fucked things up.
Sabitzer was much much more better than Mount …. He was motivated every time he played more motivated than many players on the pitch now ..
Guys, honestly, this Malacia situation is actually so worrying. It's baffling to me that we haven't seen/heard anything from him aside from this supposed injury. Even with 2 ACL injuries he should've been seen by now. We have only seen articles and old photos saying he's supposedly back at Carrington. Something happened that summer because we were on cloud 9 and looking forward with excitement until the first game of preseason.
Go have a look at who the head of sports medicine is at utd and look where hes come from and the period he was their (Arsenal 09-23) I.E. wilshere , diaby , rosicky, hleb, sagna, van persie, vermalen + a million other players who were constantly injured throughout that period and never recovered from injuries they sustained
Swear he only came in 2024, how does that explain the injuries in the first half of the year?
Wow😮. This needs more attention
@@BigPurp9 he came in 2023 [ || ]
Alright, it doesn't matter when he arrived. It's a factor that hasn't been discussed. I agree. Needs to be sorted
Ole said after the Everton game a lot will have played their last match and we nodded along, Ragnick said 10 players min and we agreed. Years later the same players with the same problems are still here.
Spent 500mil since Ragnick hahahah
Same players? 7 of ETH signings started last night plus Garnacho and Mainoo. Safe to say that's 9, Dalot has been one of United's best players under ETh. So that leaves AWB
since Ragnick left More than 10 players have gone 😂😂
Mata Matic Ronaldo Cavani Fred Pogba Lingard Henderson Elanga Telles Tuanzebe De Gea Mengi Williams Bailly
"same players with the same problems are still here" yeah right..
That game yesterday had 7 ETH signings and 2 academy graduates... Still battered 4-0...
@@geedub2019 spot on..
Mad how we both made the same comment at the same time but it's 100% facts...
@@geedub2019 amrabat ? Evans ?
Was mount and Hojlund his first choice ?
Gentle reminder for Howson that the 90s were 30 years ago.
Ten Hag not being arsed about the volume of shots against us is truly bizarre and indefensible
It's worrying when managers start acting delusional. He spoke sense generally when he first joined United.
@@THEremiXFACTORHe knows he's running out of time so he's getting desperate and delusional
Who are you going to swap Ten Hag with?... Not even pep could get this team a champions league spot
Exactly. It's ridiculous! It's clear this job is too big for him. We are the only team in both Epl and Championship with no style of play. I watch this team and I can't understand what they do in training at all! You'd think they round up drunks from a bar every match day to play.
I don't think it's delusion so much as worrying about completely losing a team of fragile egos ala what happened to Rangnick
I could tell casemiro had gone pre season. Jumping into tackles late, completely slow. I called it that he could cause problems this season if we're relying on him
Guy was wearing gloves yesterday. His mind is in sunny Saudi, not cold and wet England
He got fat in the off season and never lost it.
@@diddlysquat88 guy was wearing gloves last season.. Whats your point
@@akeemguy7331 Its May and he clearly hates this climate and wants back to Spain or Saudi. His mind is elsewhere!
@@diddlysquat88 lmao... I aint have time to argue about nonsense...
Can I say it actually all started after the league Cup final? We actually were quite lucky to win the final but the signs were there. Post the final it has been just downhill
This is not said enough.
I agree. For me our problems started when Andy Caroll injured Erikson in the Reading game. I felt that the performances after that were scrappy with a few important wins scraped (like the Caraboa final).
We've also missed Fred in the middle of the park this season. So we neither have control nor legs in midfield.
Can't remember the last time they finished the season well.
True. Rashy went off the boil after that and we limped over the line last season and were lucky to finish where we did. It’s not just a this season.
How many different center back parterships did we have in the 7-0 loss 6-3 loss & 4-0 to Brentford games last season? Were we decimated by injuries in those games too?
Can we dispel this myth that last season was miraculous? It was a good, solid season. But the way some of you act like it was tremendously amazing, lol. We didn’t beat a SINGLE team away in the top 9. We scored less goals than Brentford. Fair enough, we won a league cup by beating a bunch of championship sides at home, before beating Forest in a semifinal and Newcastle with Karius (3rd choice GK) in net. We took some serious batterings away at Brentford, City, Liverpool, Villa, Sevilla. It wasn’t unbelievably good. We signed a world class DM, a right winger from Ajax, cb from Ajax, eriksen as well, we probably SHOULD have finished where we were.
We literally beat all the top teams at home last season.
Yeah, it’s really started to get on my nerves as well. The idea that top 4 and a Carabao is some massive overachievement for United is madness. Remember even Lampard managed to get top 4 and an FA Cup final with a transfer ban at Chelsea.
The teams' form fell off a cliff after the cup final starting with a 7 - 0 drubbing from the bin dippers and people seem to forget about the end of the season.
I thought it was just me …
@@daviddeepred8446 that’s why it was a GOOD season. But no United team should go an ENTIRE season without failing to beat a top 9 team away. That’s shocking. Our form after the cup final
Is there for all to see.
Because the Owners are crap, the coaches are crap. The manager is crap. The players are crap. Basically everything is crap. There’s no point in sugar coating anything. It’s all CRAP.
CR7 was right. Everything is rotten from top to bottom!
It's all about the players really. They're not good enough, that includes recent favourites like Garnacho and Mainoo. Only acceptable United level players right now in 2024 based on what other teams are doing are Bruno Hojlund and Martinez.
Don't forget the fans as they are the crappiest of the lot. 😂😂
Let's all laugh at scum.
Hojlund misses so many shots from crosses that are put into him that his conversion rate is skewed. He needs to start showing he can control a ball.
Wait...Hojlund gets crosses? It does depend on the quality of crosses as well though.
@@mikester4896 Even if you watch the game against Palace, he had several chances and missed the ball completely. And yes, he's had plenty of quality crosses all season that he's missed.
ur bugging
@@Pandafro13 Not really. Just watch the Palace game.
Crosses from who? It’s the lack of width and accurate crosses that we’re missing from players like Antony and Rashford.
If its true that pretty much everyone has been told the proper graft starts next year, get yourself a new club if you dont fancy it, I can easily see the Palace game as a performance from a bunch of players who realise the gravy train is finishing and they either cant be arsed or cant step up and have just tossed it off knowing another contract isnt coming
If what you’re saying is true then it’ll be a case of good riddance to bad rubbish as we want professionals that are up to the task and put a shift in and it’ll help if we had more leaders that can read the game as what we’re seeing from the players is not professional! 🤨
@@jaysparrow6631 true, but it does mean we're in for an awful run and if we finally get the exodus we need it's not easy to get enough new players in
@@ADHDean.indeed as it’s what is needed even though it’s not wanted as these deadwood players need to go first before the manager as once the players get on that pitch then the managers job is done but it’s also his job to make substitutes when a player is not performing to expectations and here’s the catch 22 it’s been impossible to implement that standard when there’s no proper backups due to injuries and that’s what’s killed our season.
Putting a lot of faith in ineos hardly turned their other football teams into mega teams.
Lol, it started with the Lens game. If you have time go back and watch that game again. That game showed the midfield gap, but also showed our quick transition from the goal Antony scored.
injuries in defence are so much worse than in attack.
reckon we could have at least had a proper shape with a settled back 4.
remember look at when lp and salah was dominating and they lost the best cb in the league and funny that salah scoring spree stopped.
Doesn't explain why there's no midfield ever.
@@garethdeere4822 sort of does the mid and att cant be organised to a high standard when you have a def so mashed together. Erik is not a natural dm so def work is harder. Can say why not play amrabat but he not played well either.
@@garethdeere4822 The defence is the backbone of any team these days, they all play out at the back so when you have defenders are physically and technically incapable of doing so they can't control the game or get the ball to midfield and the team falls apart. Issue is we have players that can't win balls either so when it gets pumped up field we lose it majority of the time. The squad is fucked, you can blame Ten Hag all you want but it's the club and upper management that's allowed this to happen.
Thank you PSG for bumping up Sancho's price
The comparison between 2-3 big injuries in past seasons and the fucking 65 injuries this season just doesn’t wash.
Bringing Ole back for the final would be genius. He would live in Pep's head rent free the days before the game
No he wouldn't
I really think it's a simple question to answer. Injuries, tiredness, and a few players coming to the end of their career. Nowadays, we over analyse everything so much and put too much emphasis on the influence of managers and the tactics they use. 9 times out of 10, it's the best players in the best physical condition that win football matches.
Depth, form, competition, rotation. What this season was lacking from last season. Also the players brought in this season was an open admission of taking a step backwards because he brought in a new goal keeper who’s completely different, a retired cb, a loanee mid and 20yo striker who was from the beginning called a project. Last season United had competition at practically every position, this season, almost none besides on the rw. And the rw’s aren’t good. Idk if ETH is definitely the guy but we’ve seen this movie before. I didn’t want to fire Jose, Ole or now ETH. I wasn’t happy Rangnick didn’t stick around either. It’s the club structure, that’s changing and the squad, change that.
This day 2 years ago, we lost 4-0 to Brighton away under Rangnick which confirmed our worst Premier league season - ended overall on 58 points. 2 years later, we will potentially get even lower than that. Massive rebuild needed where everything has to be ripped apart.
Ste is on it with these vidoes. When he is in a group of more than 2, his need to take over the whole chat makes videos unwatchable. One on one and talking into the camera, he is second to none on United fan channels. Btw, watching back that watchalong, ans seeing McKola destroy every fan chat kills me. What was that endless singing about? I don't know why this channel refuses to take the watchalongs and group chats more seriously. The inability of McKola to just stfu about random garbage is actually insane and is hurting the channel because who beyond the teenagers can be arsdd with it?
I have barely watched anything from McKola for years now.
lol I still remember mckola said he atom would be our no.1 keeper
@@singsangsung9022 whether I agree with a "take" is really not the point here. Not everyone shared my opinions I genuinely don't care.
@@tooshlong here he is whinging again .. beIIend 😂
@@HLDN2K this sp*stic is actually following me around youtube 😂😂
Everything will be analysed at the end of the season including off field matters and all the periods in games with 45mins of a style and then imploding,loss of form of Rashford,Antony and Casemiro,injuries,poor subs etc.
When you look at everything without emotions,the manager needs more support in the club inorder to perform!
I believe winning the FA cup is not a factor in decision making and the management team have already decided to work with ETH next season! It would be risky bringing in another manager who is unaware of all the issues or understanding how the club works to come in and start from scratch!
Emotions won't influence top decisions,only data, analysis,reports and feed back from the technical staff and coaching staff are important!
Ste is much more palatable in a 1on1
Your podcast has quickly become one of my favorites. Always looking forward to the next episode!
Give Ten Hag the time Klopp and Arteta got. It's that simple. Until this squad are players _he_ wanted and _he_ is happy with he can't be judged too harshly.
Ten OUT 🏝️
I wonder if Joe still thinks ETH still knows something we don’t 🤣🤣
Joe is a saapi
Well, despite what we see, he probably does. Hence is being here, and ETH being there.
The problem is the players, the press, the supporters dont have no patiënt to build, every 2 years its the same bull 😢, this is going on for about 10 years, no stability no consistent, how long will it takes to get utd back on top, i quess another 10 years 😢
Do you think the players have written off this season in their minds? And do we really want them putting in 100% for the last few games, which may put us in the euro conference? Would it be better to lose those and save ourselves for the cup final?
Turned off the moment they started crying about Rashfords "broken back".
Dr Rashford fed the hungry kids, give him a break 😂
A legitimate excuse yea?
I can't counter agrue with anything said by Howson and Joe.
Spot on lads!
Ole says in the podcast with Neville that after coming 2nd, switching from counter attacking style to possession based style was important to even think of going toe to toe with City, and thats where he failed last season.
Ten Hag was effectively brought to do exactly that- take that next step of implementing possession style. He could have switched to counter attacking this season and salvaged the season somewhat, but even at its best, we would come 4th. And then we will waste the next season again trying to force this style..
Now we have atleast 7 or 8 players in our team who have gone through this style for a season and are functional to somewhat good. Once we sign better defenders we can confidently go in next season with better expectations even if we're not in Europe for the year
I as a keen runner would suggest all these injuries reek of a team not training like the athletes they’re paid very well to be
Like.its been said 7 of his players started, 2 he promoted, if u can't get a style of play from 9 out 11 players then you're done, yes injuries at the back hurt but what excuse is that to have no style of play and no threat of attack
How many of those players were brought in for squad depth and how many had their value tripled in the transfer market because the club is run by monkeys?
The truth is this manager is taking the fall for everything. The same things people have blamed the board for they’ve suddenly switched and blamed him. Players have made individual mistakes in games, thrown away good results and the manager gets the blame. Stop saying trust the process when the process doesn’t look how you want/think it should go. Get the right people above him, get the right players in and out of the squad and then we can judge him. Are there things he should’ve done better with this season - yes, but football fans like to oversimplify things way too much when they don’t understand the day to day complexities of manager managing a team.
I can't help but think we are on the precipice of something huge. Eth has the fergie factor, ffs have a little faith and patience. If we listened to the fan base we would NEVER had fergie. Think the fuck about that
This has been a great discussion lads! I wish talk sport went to this level of sensibility instead of just aiming for the negative headlines!
such a good point about wolves. We literally played shocking in the first game
Class episode we need more 👍🏻
1974 was the year United were relegated. Their stats for that year were: Won 10, Drawn 12, Lost 20, Goals For 38, Goals Against 48.
Almost a full circle, this is the legacy of 18 years of the Glazers as no other owners would have-mis managed United as they have.
Great show lads🎉
When everyone was back from injury we had good run of games where we did look good, but then they got injured again and back to this. Just need next season asap.
I think the huge list of issues he has had does excuse him. It gives him the right to expect a season at least with a structure behind him and a say in getting rid of bad players aswell.
Nothing will improve until they bin many of these players. These are the same players that complained about the influence of McKenna , who has proven he is a class manager and coach.
Hit the nail on the head. Last season we didn't play the style/formation ETH ideally wanted, but it worked. He swapped it all round this season it hasn't worked, and even despite injuries he hasn't swapped back to the style that we know works.
That's where the blame is on him as well as the players, and it's one thing I'll give in favour of the players.
Ole says in the podcast with Neville that after coming 2nd, switching from counter attacking style to possession based style was important to even think of going toe to toe with City, and thats where he failed last season.
Ten Hag was effectively brought to do exactly that- take that next step of implementing possession style. He could have switched to counter attacking this season and salvaged the season somewhat, but even at its best, we would come 4th. And then we will waste the next season again trying to force this style..
Now we have atleast 7 or 8 players in our team who have gone through this style for a season and are functional to somewhat good. Once we sign better defenders we can confidently go in next season with better expectations even if we're not in Europe for the year
Part of the problem I think is that EtH believes that if he set us up to shore up defence will be even more crap at creating and he doesn’t know how to get our players who are clearly less fit and worse on the ball than most other squads to execute that effectively
Ten haag is no doubt a top coach but the MAIN thing is him not signing physical midfielders he can play in prem like ajax days schone and donny as midfielders we lose every midfield battle we play and that leads to shots on goals plzzz sign midfield legsssss
Fergie having a couple of injury prone players is not the same thing as 70+ seperate injuries in one season.
Shaw was injury prone after his leg break but hadnt missed much over the previous 3 years. Varane wasnt that injury prone until he played for us. Malacia and martinez had no history of being injury prone. Neither did hojlund, mount, maguire, awb, rsshford, mctominay or linndelof.
Something is not right.
We literally signed Hojlund while he was injured. Mount literally missed two months in 22/23. What are you even saying? 🤣
@@MrKajjaGG all players get injured at some point so mount missing 2 months last season doesn't make him injury prone. Hojlund has been injured since that first injury and looks like he's playing with minor knocks. Well done anyway, picking 2 players from our squad completely proves me wrong. It's totally normal to get 70+ injuries isn't it? Silly me.
@@mundolioknows6447 you tried to claim none of these players had injury concerns prior to joining United.
@@MrKajjaGG learn to read. "Injury prone"
Varane was injury prone since his early days in Real + last FM I've played was FM16, even there (when scouted) his cons we're "injury prone", in red, remember it like it was yesterday lol.
You guys touched on a lot of good points but as usual with you paddock lot, you spoke about everything else that has gone wrong ie: tacticsc, court cases, injuries EXCEPT the elephant in the room: these players doing to Erik what they do to every other gaffer. ten Hag didn't just forget how to coach in one season.
This is becoming a yearly segment about manchster united, "what went wrong", "what the h### happened", "crisis talks"
If I'm ever in court can I request that Joe acts as my lawyer. I'm not sure he'll win my case but he'd never give up on me😂
I dont think ten haag is to blame fully, the players look like they dont want to be here. Start giving more of the unders 21's an oppertunity.
Its like what Fergie used to say. In football, eight players - not 11 - win games, because everybody has off-days, the issue is this season the whole 11 has had off days.
Excellent stuff gents
I love how professional and sensible Joe is with Ste but a big kid with Jay lol
81 goals conceded in all competitions (Most in a season since 1976-77)
13 Premier League losses in 35 games (First time in club history)
317 PL shots conceded since Jan 1 (Most among all PL teams)
Very balanced! 💯
My whole issue with the injury excuse is if you’re going to use it. Game by game less assess the injury levels of the opponent. For example vs Palace they were also playing a midfielder in defence due to injury. Bruno was missing but so is Docucure
They lack cohesion, a strong player base of around 8 or 9 reliable players that know and feel eachothers movement. It's not even guess work, they can find eachother no problem. Once you have that you can start to add or subtract and play around with tactics. But I think to a point it's not there yet, you need a strong base to build from. If a youngster or someone new comes through they also will understand the shape and the structure of a team much more.
Appreciate a bit of balance and avoiding repetition which is all everyone is doing at the moment on Twitter etc.
Thats all i have on Ten Hag is that you look at someone on the bench for a few games (amrabat) and think, can he honestly not do better than what we are seeing? It was the same with sabitzer, at times with amad.
Last season we played rubbish and escaped so many time with a moment of individual brilliance or blind luck with a deflection goal. Our squad is heavily suited to counterattack football with a coach who doesn’t play that style so we are a dogs breakfast again this season without the “moments” and to make matters worse, we’ve had a bad season of injuries. Manchester United cannot be a counterattack team. The only way out of this situation is to get rid of the counterattack players first and see where we stand after that. Fingers crossed our new management team are able to identify the right type of players to get a proper assessment of ten hag.
Utd have injuries but they're still playing international or experienced premier league players, other clubs are playing kids from the academy that nobody has heard of.
ETH is calling these players out in a very subtle but obvious way, we finally have a smart manager, back him
You both forgot the other huge impact of the keeper Onana.. he has been awful for most of the season let's be honest, Individual errors have also cost United big time ! I can't remember another season where they have made so many.
I too can’t believe how we are not talking more about Onana. I have tried being patient but he is (i’m sure) the worst keeper i have seen play actively. He is insanely slow, reactions slow, handling bad, insecure and can’t dive. Positioning could have help in lack of diving abilities but that too is horrendous. The amount of times i’ve seen Onana planting his feet and just watchinh the ball curl in the net is above 10+ times. Don’t get it.
@@IceColdMoet agree.. I believe it had a huge destabilising effect on the players and that was even before the injuries hit the squad. Ten Hags worst decision was replacing David with Onana.
Maybe something between ten hag and Sancho happenend during pre season, much earlier than what we saw publicly.
Let’s carry on with Sunak as PM because we don’t want to carry on flip flopping….there’s so many hard working folk waiting for an opportunity, do your research and hire the right people
Thank god for Joe and logic! Howsen and this obsession with ole back for 1 game is embarrassing
The sad thing is that it’s a simple but also a complex answer.
The simple is that it’s 20 years of severe mismanagement and the owners not giving a toss at every single level of the club.
It’s complex because if you say that to your average angry fan at a weekend, they don’t want to hear it, SURELY it’s something that we can change with a new manager? Or new players
And so the argument goes back and forth, it’s the players! No it’s the coach!
It’s actually harmful imo because it’s neither, we’ve had multiple coaches and actually multiple sets of players. Multiple top managers and top players come here and end up like shit.
The entire house is rotten and it doesn’t matter how many pretty new bits of furniture we get.
15 years of incompetence in the boardroom where profit and dividends were more important that football matters.
Good chat
Sabitzer and sancho CL finalist not good enough for united 😂😂
I said from pre season that we can't play from the back and some fans slagged me off.
Dan Gore was good in pre-season but never got a game?
Good vid
My feeling overall is we need to just get through the season. Clean out the house and get in new furniture
Getting a new manager in for one game isn’t the worst idea ever since there’s no transfer market on managers. Zidane in for one game and see how he likes it.
Ste missed his Manscape chance there, and I'm surprised Joe didn't bring it up.
Physicality and athleticism:
Akanji, Ake and Gavrdol,
Saliba And Gabriel,
Virgil and Konaté,
Torres and Konsa,
van de Ven and Romero.
Now compare these defenders with the defenders we have at United, Martinez has been injured for the whole season Verane is mr glass.
It makes sense that we are where we are
Sabitizer was a loan signing and hes at the forefront leading Dortmund to a CL final this season
City have got two squads. Fucking bollocks mate. Smallest squad probably in the league.
That feeling after a loss is that at least we have not been humiliated...
15:55 Biggest game in almost exactly 1 year, we were in the same final last year
Everyone associated with the club must unite and work tirelessly to secure victory in the FA Cup. This includes Wilcox and Blanc, as well as Ashworth, former players, and everyone else involved. Only through such collective effort can we achieve our goal. Let us involve the players in tactical discussions and seek their input. Questions regarding past failures can be addressed after the match.
The REAL problem is that the Best performing and the Best paid players in our team are not good enough to play for anyone else in the top 6. Sort that and everything sorts itself
Not gonna repeat myself but this season was a none event after month one you could see it. The Clubs sale has been hanging for months now it's happening everything is up in the air at the Club and even Commercial Model. TIMES THEY ARE CHANGING
Hfeat analysis. You also can't legislate for casemiro drop in form. Weve not a had a normal preseaso for years. In the fergie years fergie use to bunp tours abroad now we need to, to raise money. Your bang on about sancho steve.
The only good performances you've mentioned there were had Martinez and Shaw. I knew our season was done when they only lasted a couple games, thought there was no chance get top 4. I never expected us to have gotten to a final after that.
For the last few games of the season,just stack all 11 players in the goal. Clean sheets.
Its amazing how these people continue to defend Ten Hag after every single mistake over two years,
but can't allow Greenwood a 2nd chance.
It's defo more about injuries and bottling it in game when we should've controlled the last 20 mins or so rather than Ten Haag. 1 win in 8 and that was against Sheff Utd tells the whole story. If we'd won 3 or 4 of those and we're in the push for top 4!
We can get rid of the manager or we can finally get rid of the shit in the squad and let the rest know they're here but better fucking buck up their ideas??
Ten Hag believes he is the man to turn things around at Old Trafford but if he can't admit to making fundamental errors of judgment then how is he ever going to correct these mistakes?
Pretty sure you said mkenna was shit, but now you say he was underrated
Agree - I just keep coming back to the Wolves game. I’ve watched a lot of football but that game was weird and it just never really changed. Overall, I think there comes a point when the only way to change culture is to change a lot of the people
Sancho sabitizer players we should have kept
It's funny that those conversations you're talking about need to happen, most definitely have happened.
Jadon Sancho should not be a barometer on how Ten Hag is judged, the guy has been sitting on his a$$ for a year now, not playing football and is not relatively fresher than most of the competition. Most of the other players have now either been run to the ground or are carrying injuries. Enter Sancho fully fresh, taking on tired defenses at the end of the season and showing off, He did not do this in the beginning of the season, when the players and the competition were fresh . Players with bad attitudes must get out of the club, unless this is done crisis at Manutd will never abate.
Ste i fully agree but if we;'re on -3 now and loss 4-0 then we were on +1 before the game so its not that you didnt remember but you didnt check, its whole psychology of people's fixation on every detail of things when its bad