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EVIDENCE That Oswald NEVER Fired A Rifle! | JFK: Destiny Betrayed | Altitude Films
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- In the aftermath of JFK assassination, the New York Times pins the crime on Lee Harvey Oswald. This comes one day after Oswald’s murder by nightclub owner Jack Ruby, who the Warren Commission concludes acted alone. But contradictions and falsehoods say otherwise...
Oliver Stone’s four-part deep dive into the infamous Kennedy assassination and what happened afterwards, bringing to light the truth behind the lies.
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If Oswald did it alone... then there would have been no need to silence him..
Oswald acted alone, thought he had been set up. Which is where the "Patsy" comes from and yes he was silenced because of what Oswald saw from the sixth floor window. Lee knew what had actually happened, Ruby carried out his job to perfection and the American public has no damn business knowing the truth. You have a good day sir.
@@markdelgado8963 An absolutely enormous amount of evidence of conspiracy before, during and after the assassination. You can literally go down any of the various rabbit trails and quickly realize that "coincidence' doesnt apply here
A maintenance man said he saw Oswald eating lunch downstairs while it happened - he was never questioned by the Warren Commission. Of course, the Warren Commission is a neat package, that makes you believe only certain things.
Bullshit--good riddance.
They say the RFK ASSASSIANTION WAS A CONSPIRACY BUT NO ONE SILENCED SIRHAN SIRHAN...
How on earth does a man accused of killing a policeman and a president not have legal representation not to mention how does a guy just walk right thru security and kill Oswald in front of millions
And stalking him the whole time he was custody
Ruby was well known by the Dallas police dept. and not perceived as a threat at the time.
@@liljimlambert7According to the Wikipedia article on LEE HARVEY OSWALD:
- G. Robert Blakey, chief counsel for the House Select Committee on Assassinations from 1977 to 1979, said: "The most plausible explanation for the murder of Oswald by Jack Ruby was that Ruby had stalked him on behalf of organized crime, trying to reach him on at least three occasions in the forty-eight hours before he silenced him forever."[252]
@@JohnnyNation and I have plenty of swamp land to sell you in Florida if you believe the Warren report. It was a COUP !
@@haroldbrown5308 I never said I believed the Warren report/ I still think Oswald was the fatal shooter even if there were others involved.
I am British living in England and I was 17 at the time of the assassination. The very minute I saw on the news that Ruby had killed Oswald, even as a teenager, I never believed that Oswald did it, and certainly not that he was working alone. Nothing that came out later about who Ruby was, and nothing in the decades since have altered my mind. Quite the contrary.
That makes no sense; "I never believed that Oswald did it, and certainly not that he was working alone.": First you say he didn't do it, then you say he did but not alone.
@boxyboy46 Don't believe? Then 1) Name the assassin not Oswald 2) Describe the methodology employed 3) Identify the weapon used 4) Explain what happened to it and to the bullets or bullet fragments therefrom, since only those of Oswald were ever found. Then explain how in over half-a-century, every one of so many conspiring lips has remained ever so tightly sealed. You and yours have had 59+ years to do those things. Still having trouble?
Wouldn't it make more sense that someone shot Oswald because he HAD done it? Why shoot him if he hadn't?
@@peterfraser9070 Cut from illogical whole cloth, JFK conspiracy theories (all of them) are bound to make no sense.
@@peterfraser9070 Because he was the patsy, got to take out the patsy.
Doesn't matter who actually pulled the trigger, our Intelligence Community was responsible. Either directly or in their failure to prevent it. So they are either corrupt or incompetent, in any case they need to be stripped of their duties and we should start over. Our Federal law enforcement is rotten to the core, current events are proving this true.
True
Matt Ruby was part of the Jewish Mafia. JFK was opposed to Israel developing nuclear weapons and sympathetic to the plight of the Palestinians. Incompetence doesn't come into it. They wanted him gone !
Yes, it DOES matter who actually pulled the trigger. It matters a lot, otherwise this crime will never be solved.
Ditto
@@Joylibelleagreed
Ruby just said why he killed Oswald, because of the people around him that would benefit from it and he would not be vindicated. This was just ONE of many cover-ups in the history of our government. This was 1963, how bad is it now??????
substantially worse now.
@@JGrogann YEP
I guess Ruby knew he was dying of cancer and so shot Oswald for the mafia and the CIA.
His family were prob well compensated.
@@grissom2023
that's seems likely, wonder if there is any evidence of such an occurrence, money in the Rubenstein (ruby) family or something like that.
Also possibly the CIA induced him with cancer to get rid of him. they couldn't very well have another prisoner shot, could they?
@@grissom2023 Probably
At the age of 89 I never believed the Warren Commission, at the time or now, and I never met anyone who did believe it. Ruby was extremely well known by every local cop as the local head of the mafia. Yet he got into Police headquarters armed.
I'm 75 and I believe the Warren Commission. I actually read it 15 years ago. Those who say they don't believe the Commission's report never read the damn thing. I retired early and had lots of time on my hands. The volumes of the Report were difficult to wade through, but those investigators were very thorough. We know now that they did not cover all the possible bases, but what committee does?
@@Dr.Pepper001 I've been studying the JFK killing for 40 yrs and the Warren commission was a bunch of garbage and yes I've read it myself..and seen interviews.. archive footage.read almost everything about this subject and I can tell this commission was formed to cover up this great tragedy LBJ himself didn't believe a word of it.and neither does 85% of the American people to this day..you keep right on drinking the government Kool aid sir !!!
@@Dr.Pepper001 I'm a natural born skeptic, as kid I questioned everything from the church I attended to the politicians running for office. I'm 60. One day, about 10 or 12 years of age, I asked my dad about the JFK assassination and that I sincerely thought the shooter could in no way have fired off 3 shots in 6 seconds and hit JFK's head in a moving car with that rifle. I knew about the rifle because my dad told me about it and also we used to go target practice a lot with my brothers, my dad owned a few rifles, I knew a little about guns , anyway, long story short, he said he felt strongly that the Warren Commission was a cover up, that it didn't sit well with him.
I have not read it, but have read a couple of books on the subject.
Probably the main reason I didn't read through the drudgery, that is the Warren Report, is because of one man...Allen Dulles. And I think you know why.
Sir, the fix was in.
"It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority"
- Benjamin Franklin
@@alwagner9722 -- There were 3 shots in 6 seconds. Oswald had the rifle cocked with a round in the chamber by the time JFK rounded the corner. He aimed in on his target and pulled the trigger. That was the 1st shot. It's at that precise second that the 6 seconds begin. He only has 2 more rounds to fire over those 6 seconds, not 3 rounds. He cocks the rifle again, aims, and fires the 2nd round. He cocks again, aims, and fires the 3rd round. At that precise instant, the 6 seconds end. Most people say to themselves, "In 6 seconds he had to cock, aim, and fire the rifle 3 times during those 6 seconds." No, he didn't. He had to cock, aim, and fire 2 times. I was in the Marines from 1964 to 1968. I trained and qualified at the rifle range with the M-14, which fired in the semiautomatic mode. Oswald had a bolt action rifle that, like the M-14, was a fairly high powered rifle. It had recoil so after each shot he needed about a second to get the rifle scope cross hairs back on target. It was definitely possible for him to fire off 3 rounds in 6 seconds. After I left the Corps I bought a Mauser bolt action rifle. I took it to a rifle range near Salt Lake City and duplicated what Oswald did. Using the same scenario as I described above, I hit a stationary target 3 times in 6 seconds. Don't tell me it's not possible.
@@alwagner9722
Oh Lord.. Somebody from the intelligence community was gonna be on that commission.. So, what’s the problem?.. lol..
I’d give weight to that gripe if I didn’t know for a fact you guys would be suspicious of whoever made it on that commission from the intelligence community.. Because you’re crackpots..
I was 13 years old, used to come home after school and when JFK did a news conference, it was pure joy- The day of the assassination is still one of the worst for this once teenager.
Just imagine if we knew in the Sixties we suffered a Coup?
same here!
Ruby came down with a case of that mysterious fast-acting cancer which has plagued a number of other potential witnesses, government actors, people with close connections, and agent provocateurs; not only in this case ... but in a number of others, as well.
Nothing to see here, though, folks.
Let's not forget Martha Mitchell...wife of U.S. Attorney General John Mitchell during Watergate.....who claimed agents held her while she was forcibly given a shot. SHE then died of cancer soon after, just like what happened to victims described by Judy Vary Baker, the scientist who was supposedly Oswald's lover and who worked on the weaponization of virulent cancer to be used by the CIA. In the end, Watergate was about the Kennedy assassination and fear that the truth would come out.
Hilarious paranoia.
He was injected
(literally) nothing to read here folks, you mean
@@aaronz7056 maybe you should look up vaccines with SV40 in them or the fact laboratories use the metal nickel to give mice cancer.
The greatest coverup in American history. Oswald himself said it best.... " I was a patsy".
(Almost) the greatest coverup in American history.
@@davidwoods358 How could I forget 2020?
Then who killed officer Tibbits ?
@@danielhartin7680 Spot on Sir !!
@@robertramberg8219 Oswald because the little Marxist was scared out of his damn mind. The reasons for which he was silenced by Ruby, because of what Oswald saw and knew. By the way, watch Ruby's assassination of Oswald. It is a textbook mob hit, as Ruby had been a foot soldier in both the Chicago and New Orleans mob. He was a seasoned killer, period. Which is why Ruby was ordered to silence Oswald and carried out the hit to perfection.
Ruby had strong ties to the mob. Oswald wasn't just killed, he was silenced!
Silenced? About what? He didn't have a clue as to what was really going on except to perform an unprovable story that incriminated him along with a personal history that played into a pattern of being guilty.
The 'Times' proves it; the media hung him before ANY body was even cold yet.
And you have absolutely no evidence that the mob killed Oswald.
@@higbeedoug What a stupid question. Silenced about what??????
@@donjindra Show EXACTLY where the OP said mob silenced LHO. He just said there were ties and that's true. CIA works w. mob all the time. They're called 'assets'.
@@lukecage3569 There was a clear implication that the mob silenced LHO: "Ruby had strong ties to the mob. Oswald wasn't just killed, he was silenced!" Why mention the mob and silencing if there was no connection between the concepts? Of course that's what he meant.
the paraffin test was positive for nitrates found in the ink in the books and boxes he had been loading by hand on to carts to be shipped out but the test was negative for gun shot residue this means two things he had not washed his hands to remove the nitrates and he did NOT fire a rifle or pistol that day
Thank you. And how did he wash his cheek (which was negative), without using his hands.
he didn't he had nitrates from the inks in the books and boxes of books but no gunshot residue@@lindagiovannazambanini6218
Oswald didn't fire a rifle nor a pistol, that day.
THANK YOU. someone who isn't a maroon or mockingbird asset finally
@@lindagiovannazambanini6218 washing doesn't help anyway, the grains get stuck in the pores of the skin
Just looking at the parade route is a tip off that there was a conspiracy; open windows, a kink in the parade route, minimal secret service. I think it's interesting that at the first shot, Johnson hit the floor of his limo (when most people thought it was a firework) and Connelly exclaimed, "They're going to kill us all!" What did these men know?
they're: THEY'RE !!!....
@@johanconradie2120 Worry about the subject being discussed and not spelling as it makes you look like a Karen.
@@johanconradie2120 Another THEY'RE Stop telling the TRUTH" We want this Secret Kelp for Another 59 year's....
Everything.
I always wondered why they just didn't go straight through Dealey Plaza. But instead made a right turn, then a hard left in front of book depository.
Seems odd
Oh yeah, Ruby who had mob connections, who the Kennedy's back stabbed, was just so upset that someone killed Kennedy he had to go shoot him. I'm still amazed everyday at the stupidity of people.
Its not the mob you think of. It is the highest Mob of the land and the world even. Jacob Rubinstein was a member of the fraternity that killed JFK.
Same stpid MFR'S that believe 911 happened just because of some camal jockeys with box cutters.
Stupidity--please look who was freshman congressman Nixon's FIRST hire in l946--Jack Ruby! Nixon knew the mob and was sent to silence LHO on Sunday morning!
Exactly.
Exactly. The mob has a tough enough time keeping the Feds off their backs for the normal crimes they are involved in, do you think they are going kill the President? Dumb!
The assassination of Kennedy was a text book "cover your tracks" scenario when Ruby shot Oswald, who was not supposed to have gotten caught. With Oswald in custody there was no way the planners of the crime could allow him to be interrogated so enter Jack Ruby who had a checkered past which could be used as leverage against him and would have access to get close enough to Oswald to take him out. Otherwise, what motive would Ruby have for killing Oswald therefore ruining his life unless someone put him up to it.
I dunno, maybe because he was as big a wacko as Oswald, as Ruby's friends always firmly stated?
True, but the only damaging Oswald had to say was that he never hit Kennedy in the head. That as he aimed his third shot the head exploded. Which is why called himself a patsy.
That's why the police officer was taken out. Because they didn't want the police to take Oswald alive. They figured that would get the job done. But they were wrong.
@@aaronz7056 Hey its you again. For someone that doesn't believe this stuff you sure are in a lot of these videos. It's almost as if it's your job to keep the lie alive. 😉
@@feedyourmind6713 Oswald was a sheep dipped patsy and was the fall guy. He didn't fire any weapons that day.
Poor Oswald was a deer in the headlights of history. I certainly believe him when he said "I didn't shoot anyone, no sir!" The media, as it turned out, was very selective in publicizing Ruby's comments. He was widely quoted as as saying he killed Oswald to spare Jackie a trial, but everything else he said - things like "If Adlai Stevenson was VP this whole thing wouldn't have happened" - were, of course, ignored.
That’s why Ruby killed him, not to silence him for any conspiracy but because most Americans would have shot him given half a chance.
Oswald shot and killed Officer Tippit in his desperate bid to escape, escape what?
Oswald fired the rifle from the window, ran down the stairs and blended in with the crowd.
Look at how conspiracy theories balloon, some comments here about 9/11 being a conspiracy too, complete madness.
Ruby stated clearly that it was a conspiracy. He said it was timed exactly by seconds. And if it was timed that way then someone in the police department I in guilty of telling me what time Oswald was coming down. And if it was a conspiracy then that little girl was a part of it.
Anyone know who that little girl was?
Karolyn Karlin.
@@paulflemming732 Ruby also "clearly stated" he could hear "Jews" being tortured in the cell next to his.
Let’s not forget that Dorothy Kilgallen was interviewing Jack Ruby about the assassination and she was found dead in her home under suspicious circumstances!!
As were many other people who knew information about the assasination.
Kilgallen is just another one of those coincidences in a VERY long line of coincidences concerning the JFK assassination...Why should any of us be so suspicious about it ?...Because our Spidey Senses are SCREAMING conspiracy, and have been for a long time now, that's why !
@@ronaldholmes8525 No doubt Ronald - this was a professional hit (Oswald just didn't get lucky) and was planned out in advance. People knew there was some very politically unhappy people in Texas so why would you have the President riding in an open car. No FBI in the buildings - none behind the fence in the grassy noel. Most FBI agents were out late getting drunk - a total screw up by those who were supposed to protect the President.
There was never any "interview" of Jack Ruby by Killgalen.
@@apointofinterest8574 exactly!!!
Never did believe Oswald killed Kennedy . He was the fall guy that had to be silenced .
Buurrp
Your fall guy was caught red-handed trying to shoot a cop.
@@aaronz7056 Hey Aaron …..I truly want to thank you for for clearing that up for me . I didn’t know he had the cop confused with Kennedy . 🥴
TRUE. HE EVEN TESTED NEGATIVE FOR POWDER BURNS NOV. 23
@@mikelldaley9078 He tested positive.
Anyone with half a thought of their own has always known Mr Oswald did not do it.
In that case you will now explain how the people framing this innocent man could have known:
- he would show up unexpectedly at the house Nov. 21, otherwise they can't pretend he smuggled the rifle Nov. 22
- nobody would ever find any bullets or fragments that don't match to his rifle
- he would lie to police about his whereabouts
- he would immediately flee the crime scene
- he would decide at the last minute to put a jacket on, then discard it
- an imposter who looks so much like him he is guaranteed to fool the nearly dozen witnesses who ID Oswald needs to be hanging around 10th and Patton
- Officer Tippit won't simply outdraw and capture his attacker
- Oswald will agree to help frame himself by getting caught red-handed trying to shoot a second cop
- Oswald will fight so violently 3 officers get injured just disarming him
- Oswald will observe, "Well, they say it only takes a minute to die" after asking about the penalty for cop-killing
- Oswald will turn down help from the President of the Dallas Bar Association
- Oswald will act so smug he even convinces his own brother he's guilty
- Oswald will just shrug a hollow, rambling reply when asked on live TV, "Did you shoot the President?"
@@aaronz7056 I always thought the fact he took off from the book depository building asap was suspicious enough. If he really had nothing to do with it (or the ludicrous one that he was an FBI informant); then he would have stayed out and given a statesmen of what he saw or heard to the authorities!
None of these conspiracy clowns have ever addressed Guus when I brought it up.
LBJ's own brother said "You want to know who killed JFK? Ask Lyndon".
Or Lydon's daughter's boy friend--they all know that it was a coup!
lbj had his own hitman, thats all you need to know about that pos
@@seanwhitehouse2274 POS he was!
LBJ said that it HAD to be a conspiracy - then he is put out of commission. He was a part of it and a beneficiary of it, but once he started talking - they had to put him to an end. Even the HINT of opening their mouths while having been a key player - such as succeeding president, would influence the public to totally believe whatever he said. Even if he were merely trying to take himself out of it for fear of the plot being uncovered, he was running his mouth, so he had to go. Funeral timings with testimonies and running mouths, are never coincidences.
The most dishonest guy I've ever met is a guy named WARREN COMMISSION
The corrupters in the government were the mastermind of deceptions, lies and coverups.
You misspelled the name Chu, it's the Warren Omission
@@haimlevy1950 Good point
Trust me, you've met worse!
@@johnd7435 I trust neither WARREN nor you if you trust WARREN
So we're supposed to believe that Ruby acted out of his great patriotism? What nonsense.
You mean you don't believe that Jack Ruby would sacrifice all, his freedom , his nightclub, and possibly even his life if a cop had shot HIM, just to spare Jackie Kennedy from a horrible trial ? Never mind that Jackie just two days prior had seen her husband get part of his head blown off and that she was covered in blood and brain matter from her husband ...Nothing could be more horrible than THAT !
I'm pretty sure that Jackie could have withstood a trial to get some justice for her dead husband....You mean you really don't believe their made-up narrative of why Ruby did what he did.? ...I'm sure your government is very disappointed in you . THEY worked so hard creating this fairytale.
@@ronaldholmes8525
The scary part is that the government story was swallowed whole by (it seems) the whole ruling class. Hard to believe they all were part of a plot. So why did they all go along?
frrss idiots actually believe oswald acted alone
AMEN. HE WAS MAFIA
Im not even convinced he died of cancer in prison. Im not sure if there is real actusl proof of his death or not. He could have just been released under that guise.
They made sure Ruby could never expose the truth.
Jolly West
Trusting the government is like trusting your enemy.
the government is the enemy!
The magic bullet. Went through multiple people and remained in tact. Yeah no conspiracy here. Anytime they call you a conspiracy theorist they want to silence you. Stand your ground.
This was the beginning of what’s happening today.
Things are about to get a lot worse…
Deception
Sounds like a CIA hit not the mob!
@@haroldbrown5308 Yep
Had dirt on the Clintons???
Vietnam, 9--11, Covid. It never stops.
Ruby is a fascinating person. His mob connections are indisputable. He was an FBI informant. And all three agencies including the CIA and Secret Service were aware of Oswald and yet no one thought they should tail him on the day of the parade or have the windows shut on the parade route at the most obvious point. Either they are incompetent or corrupt. Your choice. I think a little of both. But Ruby? He practically spent the weekend at the police station and everyone there knew him. They knew he was a pimp and part of the mob, and yet they didn't even try to stop him. Actually, they enabled his opportunity. Having the entire exchange covered by dozens of media figures? A wide-open garage? with 50 people or more there? Unforgivable. They have no credibility whatsoever.
Many police officers were regular clients at Jack Ruby's Carousel Club. He knew them well, they knew him too. Without a trial the NYT already decided that Oswald was the president's killer. Like today, the media was part of the conspiracy and of indoctrinating the narrative.
Theyre not incompetent. They knew exactly what they were doing. As time goes on, more and more comes out linking Oswald to the CIA, the mob, he grew up in the homes of some of those mobsters, he was connected to Ruby, all the strangeness of connections to and interactions with George Demorenshildt, Bush with Arbusto Energy, and their ships, and mob and casinos in Cuba, and Miami, Florida, New Orleans, his time in New Orleans, and all the Sheep Dipping, and Allen Dulles. Its crazy. No Oswald did it alone. I don't even think he did it at all. He was a patsy. He didn't fire a gun that day.
and Nixon hired Jack Ruby to be his committees first hire as the investagator! Just chanace??
Kennedy himself had mob ties.
@@ultramagapurebloodpride8294 Well, his father definitely did and they did help him in the election. But most of all, Bobby was an arch-enemy of the Mob and they had to have seen him as a threat.
So JFK was allegedly shot by Oswald. Then before Oswald could talk, Ruby shot Oswald. Then before Ruby could talk, he died in jail.
Nothing going on here folks!
You're right, nothing going on here.
"Before Ruby could talk..." he'd had over 3 years to talk, including at his trial where he could have come forward with any public statement he wanted to make.
@@aaronz7056 Do you know what Operation Northwoods is? (Beyond just the Wikipedia article)
@@justinmadrid8712 Do you know what "crackpot paranoia" is?
@@aaronz7056 And here you are accusing another person of paranoia. (shaking my head)
Actually, Ruby did talk a bit and was the basis for his contracting a fast-acting cancer (even though he had regular routine check-ups, which showed he was in good health).
Pretty sure Lyndon Baine Johnson had everything to gain out of that.JMO
Aquilla Clemons said TWO men were there when Tippit was shot...neither of whom resembled Oswald . Then 2 days later an investigator came and said she should NOT tell anyone or she might get hurt. No conspiracy, huh?
Oswald did have a revolver on him though when finally arrested in the cinema.
@@barriewright6727 Conspiriacies revolve around dishonesty
Clemons didn't see the shooting. She saw the aftermath. And every person who did see the shooting (five) said it was one man who shot Tippit. All the bullets from Oswald's gun were removed from Tippit's body. Do a little more reading on the subject.
@@bruceberman761 Clemons was utterly clear...and was told that harm could come to her. THis is a constant theme of the literal hundreds of rabbit trails connected to the conspiracy
@@barriewright6727 But isn't it true that when he tried to shoot a policeman, it malfunctioned and wouldn't fire? In other words, wasn't he given that gun to make him a defenseless and easy target?
Also in question is the "source" of Ruby's cancer! He did, in wanting to be taken securely, to D.C. indicate he was in fear of his life. He said too many people had too many ways to kill him!
Yes I remember in the movie Ruby that is mentioned as well. We know you can in fact introduce cancer cells into people. Dr Sam Shepard who was eventually proven innocent allowed researchers to put cancer cells into him while inprisoned.
Mary's Monkey! Look it up
@@kenwaring th-cam.com/video/8bYSQ20vlLo/w-d-xo.html
I watched the Tonight Show when Martha Mitchell said men broke into her Hotel Room, held her down and injected something into her! She died of Cancer shortly after!
There have been a lot of people who the powers that be would like to have shut up, and conveniently they end up dead of rapid and aggressive cancer.
Also, Mark Lane's "Rush to Judgement". Great book!
Book is packed with fabrications and Lane was a total con artist, demonstrably so.
Witnesses like Charles Brehm called him "a despicable liar" and John Connally "evil."
He was soundly condemned by the investigation for misleading them with conspiracy theories he couldn't back up with evidence.
He disgusted interview subjects by twisting their words.
Don't miss Bob Katz's Mother Jones article "Mark Lane - The Left's Leading Hearse Chaser."
I read 3 of Lanes books. I always wondered why when Oswald was begging for someone to come forward and represent him why didnt Lane???
@@dereksanders7359 he was denied representation
If any lawyer came forward, it wouldn't have changed anything too his death. He would never make it too a courtroom.
"The men who killed Kennedy," and "JFK unsolved; the real conspiracies documentary." Both a must watch.
Men Who Killed Kennedy is an hilarious joke made by paranoid and gullible producers who swallowed every crackpot conspiracy theory told to them and which gives loads of screen time to *demosntrable* liars, grifters and con artists like Robert Groden, Bev Oliver, Gordon Arnold, Jim Garrison, Jean Hill, etc.
"The commission has functioned in a fashion which totally disregards the rights of the accused." Sounds familiar? What about those "accused" and remain in prison regarding Jan. 6, 2021?
Those fuckers (Traitors) should rot.
Some things never change.
The fact remains , if you do not know your rights , you will be abused ! The only rights you have are those which you articulate .
😂 those are traitors caught on camera assaulting police. False Equivalency.
@@PennyLane-wc3iq Watch alot of NBC , CBS , and ABC do we ?
And Texas is just or more corrupt as it was at that time. (I am 93 yrs. old and live with it every day). Latest incident was last week where 19 children and 2 teachers were killed in Uvalde as Police stood inactive in rescue.
th-cam.com/video/oqG1EGYB-fU/w-d-xo.html
(Recent TH-cam upload): th-cam.com/video/cLebrWsq1KQ/w-d-xo.html
When news like that crosses the pond, I switch off, otherwise i'm depressed for days.
Yes but odds are it was orchestrated from D.C. as was the JFK killing.
That I believe without a doubt...
all you need to know is how many of the warren commission members became high ranking elected officials...
and the fact that allen dulles was on the commission!
And, the paraffin test would have shown gunshot residue as a result of Officer Tippet’s murder as well. That murder left no time for a clean up when he was arrested at the movie theater. Impossible!
tippet shot at about 1:15-1:20 Lee in the theater at exactly 1:00pm
Ruby killed the patsy and ended up being one himself.
"The people who had to have so much to gain, and had such an ulterior motive, to put me in the position I'm in, will never let the true facts come above board to the world." -- Jack Ruby
"Are these people in high positions Jack"? Jack Ruby then answers, "YES."
Dale, you brought up one of the most important pieces of the puzzle. Jack Ruby’s testimony was quite telling.
Yes. That answer by Ruby pretty much confirms conspiracy/cover-up. Nuff said.
G.H.W.B.
???
Here's one for you ...when does a head fly backwards and part of that head lands behind the body...when shot from behind, doesn't happen.
It does when a skull explodes, physics takes over, and pieces of skull fly straight up in the air while the car is moving forward.
Have you ever seen the Zapruder film with a bullet trajectory added and coming from the storm drain? Looks pretty much perfect to me, splatter, movement and all.
@@markdelgado8963
I don't think prices of the skull would fly straight up. do you have any science for this theory?
The direction a person's head goes after being shot is meaningless regarding what direction the bullet came from. Kennedy's head goes slightly forward at the instant of impact and blood and gore went in all directions.
@@aaronz7056
we don't really have the blood spatter evidence in this case because law the limousine was ruined as evidence by the executive branch of the u.s. govt. and probably same thing with the corpse.
We are from the government and we are here to help, terrifying words
Even worse "I'm Chris Hansen....."
The one question that remains unanswered is: Why did someone who [allegedly] assassinated the president of the US and [allegedly] killed without reason officer Tippit have to go into a movie house and see a movie he had not seen? This makes Lee Harvey Oswald one of the most peculiar "assassins" in the history of crime.
that was where his handlers said to go
“For some time I have been disturbed by the way the CIA has been diverted from its original assignment,” “It has become an operational and at times a policy-making arm of the Government" wrote former president Harry Truman in the Washington Post on December 22, 1963. It was exactly one month after the assassination of President Kennedy.
This is a very interesting comment from Truman. Kennedy had vowed to put the brake on the CIA - fired it's head.
I have studied this case for several years I have seen hundreds if not thousands of documentaries about this case. I just hope that I will get all the information and all of the details of what actually happened 11-22-1963 before I pass away.
I think many of us feel that way. Millions still living (I was 11) have resigned ourselves to the fact that (what used to be America) had a coup. Period.
Sorry, that isn't likely...The assassination was covered up extremely well by a lot of evil people, and too much time has gone by to expect to know the full truth of what happened that day in Dallas , and the immediate days afterwards. They say a case begins to go cold after just 48 hours . .Imagine how cold this case is after nearly 60 years. But the clues we have that conspiracy WAS involved are many , too many , to think otherwise. God knows the whole truth ....Maybe someday we'll hear it from Him.
The truth will come out--it was a coup!
@@haroldbrown5308 Would hope so Harold but doubt will ever see light of day til our generation is gone. Imo it WAS so nefarious, so traumatic; if ever it'll be a sidenote to (almost) ancient history. People will have far bigger fish to fry in that era. Only God knows what they'll have to be dealing with then. "JF who??"
The snow ball started to roll when no legal counsel was given Oswald.
It's hard to find anything that was done right in accordance with our laws.
"That's how a conspiracy works. Those boys on the gressy knoll, dead within three hours. Buried in unmarked graves out past Terulingua"
"You know this for a fact?"
"Still got the shovel."
Levon Helm - "Shooter"
You must have seen SHOOTER also
OK 🆗 enough already Oswald killed Kennedy ruby killed Oswald cancer killed ruby. That's it end of f...king story
Oswald was executed to keep the truth from coming out. He and Jack Ruby knew each other very well. There are many eye witnesses that saw them together at a wide variety of venues.
Weren't they also both seen socializing with Tippit?
@@youtuber5305 most certainly . . .
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Names of these supposed eyewitnesses? You people lie so much.
Read a little, girls worked there ID them
I believe Oswald was supposed to be killed by the police when they found him after shooting a Dallas police officer. Unfortunately for the planners of this situation, Dallas police department followed protocol and arrested Oswald which caused a new situation that had to be dealt with quickly. This is where Ruby comes in.
How does a conspiracy know:
- Oswald will immediately flee the TSBD
- Oswald will successfully escape Dealey Plaza
- Oswald owns a revolver
- exactly where the revolver is
- Oswald will definitely go specifically to Oak Cliff
- a cop will be killed at 10th and Patton at exactly the right moment for Oswald to get blamed for it
- the cop won't simply outdraw and capture his attacker
- every cop who happens to be among the first ones to arrive at the theater in answer to a tip about a suspect in a cop-killing is likely to slaughter the suspect at the scene
Etc.?
Oswald had a Revolver... The bullet casings found at the Tippit crime scene were out of semi automatic pistols, Pistols, There were Two Different Casings found... Also, Revolvers do not eject the fired rounds, they store in the Revolver...
Besides, before the Revolver disappeared, tests performed said the Firing Pin on it was bent...
Ruby was killed by Dr. Jolly West
@@montydaniels1054 Revolver did not disappear, the firing pin was fine, and bullets were matched to it. Who the heck do you *think* shot Tippit, for goodness' sake?
Lee Harveys 2nd cousins neighbors ex wife once worked with a distant relatvie of J Edgar Hoover. Now get this, Hoovers childhood teachers brother-in-law was in New Orleans at the time of the shootings and actually picked up and read one of the Communist leaflets Oswald had passed out.
Now this is where it gets weird. The man who printed those leaflets...well his grandfather was friends with a women whose boss once dated a women that knew someone that knew Lincolns assasin...Booth.
Now if that doesnt convince you of a conspiracy then keep watching the countless similar conspiracies.
There is a photograph out there showing Oswald in a completely different place when Kennedy was shot.
share the photograph
Assuming you mean in the entrance of the TSBD, that was Billie Lovelady, as Lovelady himself quickly confirmed at the time.
"There is a photograph out there showing Oswald in a completely different place when Kennedy was shot."
No there isn't. There are two photos that I know of which have been mistakenly claimed to show Oswald. The Altgens photo is one of them, and the man shown in that photo who has been most frequently claimed to be Oswald was irrefutably proven way back in the 1970s to have actually been Billy Lovelady. You are repeating an old, old conspiracy myth that was conclusively debunked more than forty years ago, but which is still today mindlessly regurgitated by some people who have done nothing even remotely similar to proper research on this subject.
One thing I've heard is that a police officer went into the school book depository immediately after the shots were fired where he encountered Oswald in the breakroom several floors down from the place he supposedly fired from. In this account it stated that Oswald would not have had enough time to reach the breakroom by the time the officer arrived had he fired the shots. Has this account been verified either way?
@@CC-uh3zn Thank you for confirming. It's a detail that I seldom see mentioned because it seems to go against the narrative they want to establish.
Nope just the opposite.
Yes Oswald's boss at the school book depository was with the officer when they ran into Oswald in the break room
@@robertdickerson3083 Yes Baker recreated it for the WC i believe.Oswald made it pretty easily.
This has been verified indeed.
He pissed off alot of people. But none more, than the ones who would be affected most by his proposal to 'change the federal reserve notes'. Unable to launder millions of useless 'notes'.....just....gone. 'They' couldn't let that happen.
Cosa Nostra.
Really I didn't know this .but that is a strong contender for his assassination. Hoover I'm not sure what to think about him, definitely Mafia tho . 👁️👁️
Josey Wailer, There you have it! Nice to see someone else that sees that connection. By signing executive order 11110 JFK actually did have several hundred thousand dollars worth of REAL US currency printed, backed by gold and silver. I Actually remember looking at one as a child of 7-8 and noticing that where it now says "Federal Reserve Note" it said "Silver Certificate" and asking my father what that meant. Also the little stamped insignia was red not green. Yeah JFK pissed off a lot of powerful people, CIA, the Mob to name a couple but few people connect the dots to the FED and the private bankers that own it. If Kennedy was allowed to continue printing real interest free money (the way it's supposed to be) it would have eventually knocked the Federal Reserve scam out of business. I believe it's by design that nobody even knows about that pesky little fact. They want everyone pointing fingers at the Mob or CIA or Hoover's FBI, or LBJ as a distraction. My theory is they all played a willing role in it but were just the hired guns....
@@Emondotcalm I entirely agree with you . This puts it all in the picture . lol . This was the missing pieces .😎
@@lloydbeattie9370 and military industrial complex--Coup!
I just realized that we live in a banana Republic. That's been the real secret since 1963
About Jack Ruby -> His real name was Jacob Leon Rubenstein... which he had legally changed to Jack Ruby, less than a year before he shot Oswald.
Every time, eh?
Look up the word PATSY and they’ll be a picture of Oswald
If you look up the word pasty you get a much better picture
Government tells you what it wants you to know. A lie or true.Understand God says put no trust in man
Your patsy was caught red-handed trying to shoot a cop.
@@GovernorRiffRaff For the amount of time he spent in Cuba you'd think he'd have a better tan.
I was surprised on reading the Report how biased against Oswald it felt....as those his guilt was a foregone conclusion. I was a young child when all this happened, and I've always questioned Ruby killing Oswald as a patriotic act from the day it occurred.
The whole thing is monstrous garbage. Even though I know it's a lot more than The Mob,Charles Brandt's new book shows how it's just a bridge to far for our Academics and So Called Historians to acknowledge that 1. You can't trust a Supreme Court Justice 2. Likewise FBI Director. 3.Likewise Former CIA Director. 4. Vice President and then President at all on the Death Of our President at the time for the WC.
FYI LHO TESTED NEGATIVE FOR POWDER BURNS NOV 23
Yeah, that's how I saw it too.
I can't imagine the ongoing pain to the Kennedy family.
I always thought it was interesting that when they asked Jackie if she wanted to get out of her bloody dress, she refused and stated “I want the world to see what THEY did.”
Yet, in the 30years she lived after the horrible event neither Jackie, or the President's brother, who lived 45 more years, never gave specifics.
Jackie was just trying to save her own skin as always. She scrambled to get out of the Limo when the fatal shots blew her husbands brains out.
My gma roomed with LHO mother at the time. She told me before things aren’t what they appear. I agree with this.
Very odd .
Jfk dead , ruby dead , Dorothy dead , Oswald dead .... if I didn’t know, I would say the wizard of Oz is out for revenge.
In about 10 years, EVERY witness was dead! Read the book, High Treason" by Groden and Livingstone.
if they only had a brain... and jack ruby slippers too. great observation Eliza.
@@AbsurdityViewer and wicked witches from the North, south, east and west
I get Dorothy, who are the others supposed to represent?
@@AbsurdityViewer
Ok. Got it. Thanks
But why would the wizard of Oz kill himself? (Oswald)
1. Kennedy assination, 2. Bobby assination, MLK, Malcom X, assinations, 3. Chinese Wuhan Coronavirus, all cover ups!
You forgot the Diem brothers (s.vietnam) that's where it started
Anyone else think it's quite the coincidence that Ruby died of cancer? The same thing they had experimented with to take out Castro? 🤔
''Jack Ruby: Everything pertaining to what's happening has never come to the surface. The world will never know the true facts, of what occurred, my motives. The people had, that had so much to gain and had such an ulterior motive for putting me in the position I'm in, will never let the true facts come above board to the world."
Ruby was a patsy just as L H O the hero of the soviet union
They didn’t find Oswald’s fingerprints on the rifle until after he was killed.
I don't think it was fingerprints.. it was a palm print..rigor mortis had set in so they had to settle for a palm print ....
Never did find finger prints, they claimed the had a palm print.
@@michaelhayes9773 Right. But you get it. They took a palm print from a dead man!
They murdered Jack Ruby in prison. Injected him with cancer. Killed gum before he could testify at his new trial.
They never found his fingerprints on the rifle, it was his palm print and it was the only print found on the rifle. The print was located near the butt of the stock, which is not where the palm would be during firing. This would indicate that the shooter wiped it down after the shooting but before it was found in order to get rid of their own fingerprints. This in turn would indicate that an individual other than Oswald actually did the shooting!
Oswald did his best to remain silent on his CIA/FBI connections and involvement. He kept saying he was waiting for someone to "come forward and provide legal assistance". I think he was wondering why his handlers hadn't cleared the whole matter up already behind closed doors. So when he said, "I'm just a patsy", I believe he misspoke. I believe he meant to use the word "scapegoat", because he had been in Russia. Ironically, a patsy was precisely what he actually was.
Oswald didn't say one word about any conspiracy to his family, to any cop, or to a TV audience of millions.
There is no evidence he was part of any conspiracy or had any "handlers."
Watch the entire clip and he only says he's a patsy in relation to being hassled by the cops for having lived in Russia, not because he thinks a coup is sacrificing him as the assassin of the President.
@@aaronz7056 If Oswald had been part of a CIA op designed to stage an ATTEMPTED assassination on Kennedy and tie the weapon to Cuba (which it did), an op that somehow went wrong, WOULD Oswald have told his family, a cop or a TV audience? No. He would have done what he did, stay silent (for the time being) and plead for help.
I wish Oswald had blabbed away and said how he was framed. He was probably a cia informant and was so loyal that he thought he would be saved. A true patsy. I used to think he was one of the shooters but I no longer do.
Asked point blank on live TV if he shot Kennedy, he doesn't make the slightest attempt to blurt out one word about any conspiracy clearly sacrificing him and instead just gives a hollow, rambling reply that all but dodges the question just before complaining the cop he was caught red-handed trying to shoot having had the nerve to hit him.
As Woody Allen said "I'm working on a non-fiction version of the Warren Report".
I still remember the day before watching the noon news talking about Dallas. I 100% KNEW the bubble should have been on the Lincoln. I was a month before my 10th BD.
If voting mattered they wouldn't let you do it. - Mark Twain
It has been said investigating Oswald he was a marksman in the marines...that is the lowest award for qualifying with a weapon...he couldn't have been that accurate repeatedly....sorry..I know cuz I was expert everyone of my 10 years
Oswald scored 18 out of 20 in rapid fire at targets 200 yards away in the Marines, and 3 shots over 8-9 seconds at a target a maximum of 88 yards away is well within his capabilities. The shooting was also successfully recreated by investigators using the same rifle.
It's possible that maybe Oswald was exactly what he said he was a patsy! Oswald was supposed to be a communist and a defecter who went to the Soviet union if he was communist what was he doing in the Marine Corp? In the Marines Communists would be shot by a firing squad! I believe that when he went to Russia the government sent him over there and when he was a marine Oswald was taught the Russian language they wouldn't do that unless they were training you for a job! I firmly believe that after the Marines Oswald started working for the CIA and maybe he was part of the assignation of Kennedy but the man that really shot Kennedy was standing in the grassy knoll area and maybe only Oswald knew who the man was And that's why they silenced him for forever
Without a DOUBT, we NOW know, LHO WAS a CIA asset; BEFORE he "defected"-- go find my response above, regarding the question of Roy Truly and the police officer. I think you also posted a reply there. Was LHO ONE of the shooters? No. Why? Because as Mark Lane said in this video clip (which is the first time I SAW it), the paraffin/GSR test on Oswald was "negative". LHO, true to his statement, "...didn't shoot anybody". Given LHOs level of competence in shooting (barely qualifying) with a SUPERIOR semi-auto rifle [the M1 Garand], shooting at STATIC targets, shooting at a MOVING target, with an old [20+years], Italian, MilSurp, BOLT-ACTION rifle, and HITTING anything would be like shooting at the moon. And as Jim Garrison wrote in his book, "Those who would kill the king, MUST...NOT...MISS." Nobody running such an op, would jeopardize the success of the mission, by 1/3; failure is NOT an option. It's real easy to blame a deadman. And then the CIA uses cancer, to kill Ruby, inside the jail. Read the books "Dr Mary's Monkeys", and Judyth Vary Baker's, "Lee an Me". Foreword is written by Jim Marrs ("Crossfire", one of the two books Oliver Stone used for his JFK movie). LBJ was not the planner, and probably didn't know, until the day before, when he had dinner at a TX oil man's home, named Clint Murcheson. Nixon was there, as was J.E. Hoover; according to the domestic help at the time. LBJ was relied upon for the cover-up, AFTER the fact, as HE was the one who appointed the members of the Warren Commission. Do you think "the fix was in"...?
Absolutely they put Oswald together like a puzzle to be a patsy and making him out to be a communist and a traitor,in reality he was a USA Marine, like I said why would he be in the Marines if he was a communist? Communists would be shot by a firing squad in the Marines! Jack Ruby shot Oswald on TV inside of a police station with 70 armed cops all around at point blank range! Anybody with 1/4 of a brain would know that the whole thing was a set up conspiracy! Only a embasol would believe what the warren commission said!
If there ever was a mystery man, it's Lee Harvey Oswald....I wonder why that is ?
The film taken by Abraham zapruner showed very clearly that Kennedy was shot from the right which is toward the picket fence on the grassy knoll there were 51 witnesses that said they heard shots come from there including a young couple the Newman's in 2013 when it was the 50th anniversary of the assassination the Newman's now a elder couple still said they heard the shot come over their head and strike Kennedy and it came from the picket fence area and a police officer stopped his motorcycle and ran to the grassy knoll after it happened because he thought the shot came from there as well said that he smelled gunpowder like someone had just fired a rifle
Finally--it was a coup
Conspiracies do exist the only crazy people are those that believe they don't.
Except for the fact they pick the wrong ones~
Ya got that backwards bro.
If it was just a coincidence that President Kennedy was killed in the home state of the next President, his Vice President Lyndon Johnson than why is it that the President killed before him, President McKinley was killed in the home state of the next President, his Vice President Theodore Roosevelt? If they were just a coincidence than why is it that out of all the Presidents and presidential candidates in the last 120 plus years since McKinley, the only other assassination was President Kennedy's brother, Robert, while Johnson was still President, in the home state of the next President, another Vice President, Richard Nixon? If they were all just a coincidence than why was it that Vice President Al Gore, running for President was politically killed by a voting controversy in the home state of the brother of the next President, Bush43, the son of a Vice President that wanted to be President again, Bush41? Coincidence or evidence of home state conspiracy of Vice Presidents that wanted to be President?
I've never met a person who could keep a secret. Still, people insist that everything is a conspiracy. Whenever a group of people do anything, someone always opens their yap. Usually things are exactly what they seem. Thinking otherwise is just your fear of the world around you.
@@markevan1 Well said-- i now leave this task of dealing with these boneheads to you. There is yet hope.!
You should read up on Dorothy Kilgallan and her investigation into the JFK shooting and also her death.
The HSCA and the authorities investigated her death and found zero evidence of foul play. Her "investigation" was only going to be one chapter of a much larger book on other cases she had covered which she wasn't planning on publishing for months, hardly an urgent expose.
I have seen the 2 retired secret servicemen who were closest to Kennedy interviewed. No way they said. Oswald did it. Its never been explained how Oswald could have got off the 2 shots that were almost simultaneusly.
Victims' reactions in the Zapruder film alone clearly demonstrate 3 shots over 8-9 seconds with several seconds between shots.
@@aaronz7056 in your own mind
@@mikealvord55 Sigh... anybody reading this: just watch the film, assuming it's playing at a realistic speed, count the seconds between JFK and Connally looking around on hearing the first shot [which is what Connally said he did] and the first actual wounding, then count the seconds between the first actual wounding and the fatal head shot, and decide for yourself.
An unrelated unfortunate coincidence of course.( That no one talks about) LBJ's illegitimate son and a few other "undesirables" in the Dallas area also died from a "fast spreading cancer" in this same time period. There is a video somewhere suggesting that this "cancer" was caused by an "injection"
@@artistjeannem Actually, it was a covid vaccine shot. Unfortunately no data on if it was a booster or his 2nd jab.
@@artistjeannem so you dont think Ruby was fed LSD while in jail? AND you think Ruby suddenly got a fast spreading cancer from the stress of being in jail? Do you also think Ruby was not told to kill oswald? Do you think Ruby acted alone out of concern for the country?? AND of course the Zapruder film was not hacked by the FBI? AND you want me to believe the BACK of JFK's head was blown off by a bullet that entered from the REAR?
@@artistjeannem oh goodness dj, I am guessing you got vaccinated, hence taking my joke so personal. I wonder if dj is actually short for Karen. lol
@@insertnamehere313 yes AND the Dr. who visited ruby was LATER Charles Mansons Parole officer
"Suggesting...."
One thing I can't get out of my head is how close to Jackie that last shot was. Mere inches away from her face. I've always wondered how it affected her. I would've soiled my clothes for sure. The killers were ruthless since they had to know if they missed, they could've hit her.
Your comment would fuel the flames of those who believe that JFK was shot at short range from the front by a pistol.
@@youtuber5305 No, I believe it was a rifle. The still picture taken by Mary Moorman, after years of studying and magnifying, shows "badgeman" at the exact moment of the kill shot. After all these years, there are so many books, documentaries and studies of 1q/22/1963, it is now ludicrous to me to believe Oswald killed Kennedy or even fired a shot. The Warren Commission Report is a fictional tale.
You think the killers cared? They were ordered and paid murderers--it was a coup! Viet Name here we come!
shot from knoll entered and exited back of head on the right, missing her
She feared for the lives of her children which is why she married Onassis and lived on his protected island for years.
How could it not be "premeditated?" He was stalking oswald days prior posing as media.
Oswalds finger prints were never found on the Carcano rifle. A partial palm print was found on the gun AFTER his death. Would he have time to wipe down the rifle and get down to the lunchroom before the cop and supervisor showed up?
Lies on your part.
@@johnd7435 Facts
They have sworn testimony of mortician at the funeral home where Oswald body was at the fbi came and took palm print of Oswald by placing Oswald’s hand on stock of rifle.
@@charliewebster8555 They didn't put Oswald's palm on the rifle, they put his palm on an ink pad. Still highly suspicious.
You are lying; plain and simple. Keep fantasizing if you like-- No sworn testimony--got it?
I've always wondered, why didn't Oswald shoot while the car was slowing to make the turn, instead, waiting for the parade to be going away from him while speeding up. I have not been able to find anywhere this is discussed.
The shot came from the sewer hitting JFK in the head and knocking him backward! I've been to the spot! A man could stand (did stand) in it very comfortably, and walked out to the other side of the overpass into a wooded area. The sewer is directly beneath the 'grassy knoll'. When the shots were fired the smoke rose giving bystanders the false impression that the shots were fired from behind the knoll.
@@MajorWolfgangHochstetter What I asked is, if Oswald were the shooter, full stop, then why didn't he shoot as the car was at a crawl right below him, I would think, a much easier shot.
Oswald was not on the 6th floor that day and did not fire any gun.
@@MajorWolfgangHochstetter Interesting - but I think the last shot came from behind the fence at the grassy knoll. The gunmen who fired that shot had secret service credentials - he threw the gun into the trunk of his car after he shot Kennedy and flashed his credentials to anyone who questioned him.
Oswald could have easily reversed his position at the window ( IF it was Oswald ) and taken those shots at Kennedy as he came down Houston Street ...Those would have been much easier shots. But the conspiritors had to wait until Kennedy got in the exact position in Dealy Plaza in order to open up on Kennedy from different directions. This isn't really rocket science, folks.
Wow, 2 days ago, I brought this up🤔 my comment was "did you blame the gun when Kennedy was shot?" No, you blamed the man"
Just imagine what two thirty round clips could have done only on semi automatic.
Nice point. If a man with a single shot rifle can assassinate our president, why the hell would we wanna let the next guy use a 50 round drum clip?
@@odalayme guns are meant for a tyrannical government. Let that sink in a minute
@@odalayme because our military has that and better
@@odalayme any more?
Oswald was seen on the street at the time of the shooting standing in a doorway
That was Billie Lovelady, as Lovelady quickly confirmed, this was settled generations ago.
The logical question would be : how could Ruby be so sure that Oswald was murderer ? He was still just a suspect ?
You call that evidence ?!
@@TNT-km2egnot evidence, but it's a valid point. Regardless, to think Ruby did this to avenge the killing of JFK is naive.
Also, it seems 911 has faded into obscurity, a lot of questions need to be answered about that day too, cell phones that were impossible to make. Hijackers that do not appear on flight manifests. A huge airliner that disappears after hitting the pentagon. Reporting building seven had collapsed after even seeing it in the television news report. Supposed hijackers found still alive in Saudi Arabia. What was on the bottom of that plane that hit the second building. Insurance payments amounting to the billions. Punt options investments before that tragic event. Need I go on?
Watch the info/pics on PSA flight 182 San Diego 1978. This is what really happens when a fully loaded passenger jet crashes. There are flying body parts everywhere along with the other debris.
Wait till you see the truth about MLK and RFK you will know for a fact they did JFK and 9 one one
@Mark Ross: 100% correct sir. Far too many inconsistencies, coincidences, and occurrences that defied the Laws of Physics. If I may add one more.... The approach of United Airlines Flight 175 before it hit the South Tower was recorded by civilian FAA RADAR towers at a speed of 582 mph, which is impossible for that particular aircraft at such a low altitude. According to Aeronautical Engineers, it would take SIX TIMES the thrust its engine were capable of producing to reach that speed at that altitude, and the aircraft itself would most likely have broken apart before reaching that speed.
@Mark Ross I agree. No alleged hijackers appeared on any video footage at the airports involved. Time stamped images would have been shown if they had been there.
Fucking lies-Do you work for Jazeera?
....... and the United States has been in steady decline ever since.
The agents that usually stand on the running boards were "called off" when JFK left the airport, why?
So they wouldn't be hurt when the bullets were flying, and would have fewer men protecting the president.
@@rickemmons7300 Exactly what I was thinking.
I have been watching stuff on the JFK assasination for a long time and literally just saw that video a few days ago! I already 100% believed it was a conspiracy, they had everything planned out to the smallest detail.
Well, I'm certainly glad that you cleared all of that up.
Paraffin test is an old police technique. Oswald would have had to have been wearing gloves up to his elbows. Pre-disposing the test was done correctly and on Oswald.
Fire 3 shots in 8 seconds, with a bolt action rifle wearing gloves up to his elbows, might make things just a little complicated.
HE DID TEST NEGATIVE NOV. 23
It is so obvious that Oswald never acted alone. LBJ definitely had a lot to do with it. I have no doubt in my mind about this. If you dig deep you'll find all of this to be true by just what's out there.
If you actually dig you'll find the Warren Commission got it right.
@@donjindra I bet that you think that the 2020 election wasn't fixed too and still wear that worthless mask in a car by yourself. AmIright??? Do you know what a woman is? How many genders are there?
@@donjindra Wrong.
@@donjindra Dig Don dig
@@jimwatson4812 I'm so sick of you deranged conspiracy nuts. There must be 1000 popular conspiracies these days and virtually no evidence for any of them. You folks are corrupting society.
The Book store was behind Kennedy, the fatal head shot came from the front..thats all you need to know!
Now, think about the credibility of the 911 commission 🐟.
Exactly. Phillip Zelikow researched the Warren Commission and the rest is history.
From one cover up to the next.
Amazingly, they were so positive that Harvey was the only shooter that LBJ felt perfectly safe enough to hang around for over two hours until a judge could be found so that he could be sworn in on Texas soil. In the famous picture of LBJ being sworn in the chief of the Dallas Police dept is in the photo behind him, He's the one to the right of LBJ with the glasses on, if you look close he doesn't look very happy with or fond of LBJ, Whats going on? Why is he there? Why isn't he out looking for possible accomplices? How did he know there was nothing to worry about, and he didn't need to be at his job ???
LBJ did not hang around till they next afternoon. They left in a big rush the same day
He was sworn in on Air Force One en route from Dallas to Washington that afternoon.
Idk. Why did George W hang around that school in Florida after 2nd plane hit the WTC?
Well, Oswald WAS the only shooter. LBJ was flown back to Washington on Nov 22. He did not hang around Dallas.
@@nicholasmuro1742 He didn't plan it but was involved and made sure to let it happen. He's been caught lying about that day several times.
Did you know LBJ resigned from his job as Navy intelligence leader immediately upon being sworn in? Military intelligence and the military industrial complex were tied to each other
LBJ was part of the coup--ask his daughter or her boy friend who was a House page! He knows it was a coup!
this really set them back a few years !
Oswald said it himself “Im just a patsy.”
Oswald was killed because dead men tell no tales.
For years I was involved in compatition shooting. My friends and I had purchased some Italian Carcano's rifles, the same kind Oswald supposedly used. Thay we're new in the crate. I did tot think much of them. In fact I thought thay we're the most generic gun I ever saw. Well put all aside we took them to the range. What junk. Nobody could hit anything. It was a quest to get this gun to hit what I was trying to hit. I was defeated . I gave up. What a piece of junk.
You are full of crap; and you are insulting Italians.. Fish in a barrel shot, it was.. 60 years and you crazy people won't quit.
@@johnd7435 you are the one who is full of crap.
I have nothing against Italian,s. My wife is off the boat Italian. But facts are facts. Not one of the 10 rifles would group at 100 yards. And 100 yards is a starting standard for center fire rifles. We also had British, Russian, Swiss, and German WW2 rifles, with war surplus ammo. Thay all shot with much accuracy.
@@martintodd8219 so, you are saying they make crappy rifles !
I saw a meticulously researched documentary on British TV some 7 or 8 years back. The maker had high resolution audio analysis which discerned the number of shots, I THINK, it was 3, In 6 seconds? Anyhow, He then hired the current best USA competition rifle marksmen, equipped them with the exact model of rifle said to be the 1 used by Oswald. None of them got anywhere close to the number of shots in that timescale due to the reloading and refocusing accuracy required. It concluded that all the shots came from more than 1 source.
Further research demonstrated the 1st shot hit the tarmac, the 2nd entered the car and struck an official and exited his arm at the elbow. The 3rd shot hit Kennedy's head from behind. The documentary maker interviewed and analysed film of including the pathologist at the establishment Kennedy was rushed to. The pathology lab man said a lot of brain was still within the shattered skull, it had lots of fragments of what in his experience were DumDum bullets. Then, Secret Service agents burst into the lab and removed him from the scene. When he was allowed back in, Kennedy's brain had been removed, but he noticed there were still some bullet fragments in the skull.
Oswalds rifle did not have that type of bullet according to the shells found at his position.
It was possited that only Secret Service personnel were routinely armed with that type of ammunition.
The pathology lab man surmised the brain removal was to cover up the presence of DumDum bullet fragments.
Further analysis of film footage of the scene, showed Secret Service agents piling out of the following security limo when the shooting started. A discharge of a weapon by one of the egressing agents was clearly seen. That is what it was said, struck Kennedy's head, killing him.
It was subsequently found, that the agent had not had the safety catch engaged on his weapon, which ACCIDENTALLY discharged and by a fluke the bullet hit Kennedy.
The agent who fired the fatal accidental shot was named in the documentary, but I cannot remember his name. He was removed from Secret Service duties and demoted to Traffic duties until his retirement.
Thus it was said, the Secret Service knew it was a terrible accident and an immediate cover up to remove/ change/fabricate evidence was enacted to prevent loss of face and confidence.
This documentary was shown on British TV ,Channel 4 in ???? 2013 14 15 16. Don't recall exactly which of those years. It may be possible to find the documentary online?
Ruby so far is right.
"No one will know the true facts."
Ruby had a favor to return & it was killing Oswald, who definitely did not kill JFK, no matter how the commission diluted & disheveled the truth by omitting the Grassy Knoll shooter who blew the skull off JFK with a close range side shot & also vigorously pinning it on an innocent man located 300' behind where a high power close range direct side shot was an impossibility. This country or whatever is left of it should exonerate Oswald of this dubious distinction and either give up the guilty party if known or leave it as unknown/unsolved to get this historical scourge against Oswald removed.
This country? You mean the “United Socialist States of America “?
Oswald I think got a shot off but I don’t think it was the kill shot remember other people were also hit and I’m not just talking about the governor also I question who killed jd Tippett too
@@dannydillon4144 Wasn't any shot! Oswald did not kill JFK from the Grassy Knoll PERIOD!
@@bobbeezel2593 United Mess of America!
@@edwardanthony7283 No one is claiming that Oswald was on the grassy knoll . JFK was shot from the front .
Ther was too many people involved in it. I think Jack Ruby did it. And framed Oswald for it
Ruby may have kilked tippit b I've researched tht another cop killed tippet it's a small alley way in b2ween those house where tippit was parked in front of...
Two things have always bothered me about the Warren Commission:
1. Hoover did state that (I'm paraphrasing) the commission should find that Oswald was the only shooter. If this isn't "confirmation bias", it will do until the real thing comes along.
2. If Oswald really was just a "lone nut", I see NO reason to keep any part of this crime secret let alone "classifying" it as "top secret".
Good points. Especially if Oswald was a lone nut why is it classified never crossed my mind.
dont forget that allan dulles was on the warren commission, the same allan dulles who JFK had fired from the cia. im sure dulles didnt have any animosity and was totally consumed at finding the truth🤣
It's top secret because they don't want anyone to know the truth.
A shot from a storm drain in front of the motorcade is the ONLY way the head went back and to the left, PERIOD. Studied it for years and to have them want us to believe that a man fired 3 shot off hand from a 6.5 Carano crutch on a moving target with 2 hits in under 9 seconds is laughable.
I BELIEVE THERE WERE 4 SHOOTERS :: ONE BELOW OSWALD ' S SUPPOSED FLOOR , OSWALD 'S FLOOR WAS A SET UP , THE SEWER , THE FENCE BY THE RAILROAD , AND THE BUILDING DIRECTLY BEHIND THE MOTORCADE THE MOMENT THE SHOTS WERE FIRED ❗️ WHOM EVER PLANNED THIS , THERE WERE MANY INVOLVED SND THEY WANTED TO BE CERTAIN KENNEDY WAS HIT & DEAD ❗️ I BELIEVE THEY ALSO INVOLVED IN VARIOUS NEFARIOUS WAYS VIA COMPARTMENTALIZING , SEPARATING ALL FROM KNOWING EACH OTHER , EXCEPT FOR EXAMPLE THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ALL KNEW RUBY & POSSIBLY LATER REALIZED CERTSIN CONNECTIONS BUT AS LOCAL CORRUPTED POLICE DEPARTMENTS ARE WERE AFRAID TO SAY SOMETHING TO LINK OTHERS TO SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITIES OR WRONG DOINGS
AND I BELIEVE WITH CERTAINY THAT OSWALD DID NOT SHOOT ANY RIFLE AND WHEN HE SUDDENLY REALIZED HE WAS BEING OBVIOUSLY SET UP & THAT THE POLICE WERE PART OF THE MOB HE TOOK EVASIVE ACTIONS AND UNTIL HE WAS SUBDUED & BEAT UP HE AGAIN AS HE WAS TAKEN OUT OF THE HOLDING AREA WITH SHOCK REALIZED THIS WAS THE MOMENT HE WAS FORCED TO BE SUBJECT TO BE A STATIONARY (( A TUNNEL OF FEAR )) TARGET FOR SOMEBODY (( RUBY ))
IT IS OBVIOUS THAT OSWALD WAS A DECOY ,, A DISTRACTION , A DIVERSION
I concur with you100% There is another on this thread who states the same as our views on that fatal shot and i said he was the only one who is correct.until i saw your comment. I to have studied this for many years Perfect place ,perfect angle and great hiding spot even the people on the steps say "they smelled and saw gun smoke reachinh them" (And where is the drain? Right below the steps.) The Shooter was Johnny Roselli .
It came from the left of the overpass in front of them.not a Strom drain
My F-I-L always said he was innocent based on the "death walk" that was broadcast of Ruby shooting Oswald . When I asked why he thought that his response was , "When Oswald stepped out of the doorway he scanned the crowd as he was moving , saw someone that he obviously recognized and his whole demeanor changed . He knew he would not make it through that crowd ." Well we all know who shot him so .......... makes a person ask what ties were between whoever he saw (Ruby ?) , himself and how Ruby figured into it .... wouldnt it ?
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Oswald was already aware that he was a dead man walking...That's why he cried out, "I'M JUST A PATSY" . Most people would have said , I'm innocent, I didn't do this, but Oswald specifically said he was a Patsy because when he realized it was him , and only him, that was going down for the assassination , he knew he wasn't long for this world . I think it even surprised Oswald how quickly THEY had gotten to him ...But it had to be quick, VERY QUICK, in order to assure that no one else would be implicated in the assassination . THEY succeeded MAGNIFICENTLY , which is a clear sign that people in power were behind it all. Oswald saying that he was a patsy , Ruby saying that he wanted to be taken to Washington to reveal things....These were CLUES that much more went on here than what the public was being told ...Strange that nobody was listening.
There are no doubt multiple theories about the shooting, but I'm beginning to see sense in the idea that it was all staged, just like the movie North By Northwest in the cafeteria of Mount Rushmore. It's too convenient to have all those cameras rolling in front of the actual shooting, and yet it's unclear who did the shooting, because everyone is rushed away the moment it's over. I have a theory that the CIA / FBI didn't like Oswald being held in custody by the Dallas Police, and putting pressure on him to confess, and even hitting them. So they staged the shooting, and might even have used blanks, because they put a dark sweater on Oswald to hide the absense of blood.
Ruby made trips to New Orleans and had meetings with Carlos Marcello crime family and Oswald’s family members had connections to Carlos.
@@dalie95327 Didn't know about Ruby going to N.O. - I'll have to look into that, thanks.
The fact that the Dallas police interrogated Oswald and there is not one minute of that recorded screams of cover up.
You have the crime of the century, you supposedly have the killer in a room with you (or if you like, the accused) and they tell us that it wasn't recorded?
And how could a newspaper print a story the next day the stated Oswald was the assassin. Newspapers have to print late in the day for the next day edition. So in less than 8 hours, newspapers had the story as Oswald was already guilty?
Boy, that was one hell of a fast investigation. And a Dallas police officer said that a call came in to the station on Saturday night where a man warned about Oswald's safety on Sunday and to take extra precautions. Which they did not do.
Anyone could have walked in there and shot everyone it was so botched, almost as if it were being allowed to happen.
"The fact that the Dallas police interrogated Oswald and there is not one minute of that recorded screams of cover up."
Oh, you didn't know that it was extremely uncommon for police departments to record interrogations in 1963 and that there were still many police departments in the U.S. which were not recording interrogations as late as two decades after the assassination? In fact, in Texas no police department in the entire state was recording interrogations until 1992.
@@Caeruleo The fact that they were possibly interrogating the possible assassin of a president would be ludicrous to not have tapes rolling. What planet are you from? Crime of the decade but hey, let's not keep any records of what the possible killer might say. 🙄
@@monty4336 "The fact that they were possibly interrogating the possible assassin of a president would be ludicrous to not have tapes rolling. What planet are you from?"
More to the point, what planet are YOU from? You are pretending that I haven't already told you that in the United States, which is located in this planet which is called "Earth," it was extremely uncommon, almost unheard-of, for police departments to make audio recordings interrogations. And since it was extremely rare, quite obviously it would not have yet been standard practice for such audio recordings to be admissible in court or to even be attempted to submit as evidence in a criminal trial. And plenty of real murderers had been convicted in Texas prior to the assassination without audio recordings of interrogations being submitted as evidence.
"Crime of the decade but hey, let's not keep any records of what the possible killer might say."
Records can be kept in other ways besides audio recordings. Admittedly Fritz only made notes after the fact, but he was hardly the only person present during at least substantial parts of the interrogations. Thomas Kelley, Harry Holmes, James Bookhout, James Hosty, and quite a few other people were present for either most of the interrogations, or at least parts of them. I suppose you could argue that all or some of them were lying when they stated their recollections of what was said, but that would be difficult to prove in all cases, and on at least some points multiple witnesses corroborated each other on what was said. And I remind you that even today, in 2022, witness recollections of what a defendant said are still often considered admissible in court.
@@Caeruleo 😆 ok junior, you are the crime expert. Have you applied for top position at the FBI yet because you could just solve all their unsolved cases in no time. 🙄
@@monty4336 What a silly reply. I never acted as if I had solved the assassination. I merely pointed out, correctly and truthfully, that it was almost unheard of for police departments in the United States to record interrogations back then, even in the context of the most high-profile crimes. In fact, it was still uncommon for police departments to record interrogations even three decades after the assassination. And I notice that you have posted no evidence that anything I said is incorrect.
My daddy was in downtown Dallas in 1963, he said he heard two different guns go off.
Did he think they were from different areas? The book depository and the grassy knoll?