metal571 what headset you think is better M40x with blue snowball ice Shp9500 with blue snowball ice G4ame one Or another headset without a mic for 80-90 or a 150 headset with a built mic.
+sean milrad M40x junk for gaming. No soundstage. SHP9500 also not good for gaming. Closed back soundstage in an open back. G4ME One is a 558 with a very good attached mic. Highly recommend that one. However you'll need at least some kind of decent mic input since getting good quality out of 3.5mm mics is quite difficult. If you don't want a headset an ATR2500USB with mic arm and pop filter and a 558 will do the trick nicely. Might blow budget a bit but the 558 actually has a wider soundstage than the 600 making it ideal for gaming.
metal571 so what are your final thoughts. G4ame one or the 558 with that mic you listed? I know the game one is 160 dollars but how much the headset and mic combo costs (with a pop filter off course)?
metal571 i just want to get the most from my budget but i dont understand in headset.all i now i the built quality and mic by using it.never compared headsets by sound (dont know why maybe i am bad with all them basses and sound stages)
Could not disagree more. None but the very best open backs are better than the SHP9500, imo. Treble and mid accuracy are much better on the 9500 than all but the very best, and imaging and soundstage are certainly better than the hd600 (which sound flat and closed to many people) and basically on par with all but the very best. The accuracy is astounding. :-) Even rtings have them rated higher than most higher tier headphones, and they are way more comfy, as you must know. SHP9500 is indeed an $80.00 miracle. Heck, they are considered by many to be 98% as good as even the HD800S for 1/25th the price, and much less harsh in many respects. The Shp9500 would be praised and respected even more if they were priced at $399.00. People can't get it into their heads that more expensive does not mean better. I believe they are ridiculed by some because they are miraculously inexpensive, so can't be good, but in blind tests they would be better than almost any other open backs including all but the top hifimans and a couple other "luxury" models. It's funny how real blind tests are so rare in the audiophile headphone world. :-)
couldnt agree more , picked these up for 70 bucks lol and they sound better than my other 400 dollar audiophile headphones lol , insane its only 70 bucks
The EQ settings help a lot, even though they're fine without it. These aren't the best sounding headphone I own but it gets a ton of playtime because of how goddamn comfortable it is.
SHP9500 has a 50mm driver vs. HD600 & HD650 has 40mm driver. The is no compensation for displacement. ;D The 9500's are not 'better' than the HD600/650... but they are among some of the best price/performance cans out there. Philips did an excellent job with these cans.
LOL! I haven't heard that, but I like it. The only thing that I can say is that the way we hear things is subjective. These might be great to one person, and hot garbage to another. I got started in this terrible, money sucking hobby with the SHP's. These will always hold a spot in my heart.
Honestly I do not think its that hyped if there is not thousands of people buying it compared to other high end headphones (judging on the low amount of reviews on amazon compared to the better known headphones). The 9500/9500s is definitely is a diamond in the rough for performance and price.
They are buying it for the price, plain and simple. They are amazing for a $60 headphone, but very weak compared to a $300 headphone. The majority of us who are into this hobby do not make purchases solely based on price.
Problem with the headband/ear pads is sweat takes awhile to dry and since it's made of cloth it can not be wiped off. Best headphone at it's price point. Superb quality. Philips did a great job with the audio.
metal571, glad you reviewed these. Zeos recently briefly compared the SHP9500 to a LCD-4 during an amp review and called them basically equal (that guy sometimes lol). I no longer have to burn $52 bucks to satisfy my curiosity. Thank you sir.
My ears do not touch the insides. They comfort is amazing. They are the most comfortable headphones I have ever worn. I am super sensitive to pressure/comfort so if I think they are the most comfortable I really mean it.
Have you used the shp9500 for games? I'd like to know if they'll serve me better than any gaming headset. I'm currently eyeing the Coolermaster MH751 which is an "upgraded" Takstar Pro 82 as they say.
best headphone under $1k?...best headphone cost no object? I have 10 pr of headphones as it is not to mention the 2 prs i have coming to me..i dont think Ill be buying many more "cans" other than perhaps a "refined" set
If one wants the hd600 with cleaner sub bass the 650 seems to have an upper hand there with lesser distortion and more quantity. I am amazed how well the SHP9500 seem to punch at 50$ based on your impressions:)
I don't get it why people associate good quality with metal and bad quality with plastic. In reality, a good plastic can be way more flexible and resistant than normal metal, and its also way more expensive.
I absolutely love SHP9500s. They really benefit from an amp, just make sure it has low output impedance. Not so much for volume, but the bass will be bloated if you don't use a low impedance amp.
Uh? shp9500 have bad imaging and no soundstage? Maybe the rigs being used with these cans are a factor in this, but I own both hd600 and shp9500, and there is no comparison, the philips do have soundstage whereas the 600's don't. The 600's are not as wide or deep. Also, imaging! The 9500 are not bad at all! I hear good instrumental separation and localization in these cans. Sure, nothing astonishing like hd800, or stax, etc.., but imaging is definitely there, and it is not confused. Also, aside from the bass roll-off issue, which is common to both 9500 and 600, bass on the 9500 is tighter, more material than on the 600. On the other hand the 600 wins in the mid range, more liquid and classy, and the treble is also more controlled and more elegant; the upper midrange (and its emphasis at 4-5K) is the weakness of the 9500 to me. But they still have more air and resolve a tad more than the 600. It is totally true that the 9500's take eq-ing way better than the 600, but that is to be expected; they have a 50mm diaphragm (vs 40mm), and in general a driver that's some 20 years more modern, so bass can be eq-ed really well on the 9500 whereas it easily distorts or gets boomy on the 600.
I don't know about you but with my Cavalli Liquid Carbon X the SHP9500s sound beyond amazing. Besting both AKG K712pro and my recently returned Hifiman He-560 v2 (balanced). The sound stage and imaging is astonishing and not to mention incredible sub-bass with a bit of EQ. I only wish I bought 10 of these when it was sold for $50. To my ears, it pissed all over the he-560 v2 However, a proper amp is required to maximize the 9500s potential like the Carbon X did for mine.
Wow I play DOOM with this headphones and I love the soundstage so much, better than any other "gaming" headset. If you say the soundstage is bad I don't want to know how the good ones sounds. Which are your gaming headphones?, I play on PC with a DAC.Thank you for the video.
metal571 Ah hahaha now I see why. That must be sounding paradise. Thank you, one day I will reach that level for now I'm looking at the M1060. I'm glad I found your channel.
I thought these were pretty good for gaming as well. Bought them at the same time as the 598 SR's to use for gaming, and felt the 598's had a bit better positional coverage, but the 9500's were great.
Better air, better base, equal in the mids and the treble loses, sound-stage loses (although 600 is known as not having a good sound-stage) 50 bucks vs 300 bucks.
I was worried when I was ordering the Philips SHP9500 because everyone complain about the bass. The bass is great, heats even harder than my old Sony extra bass.
It's a cheap open back dynamic headphone. It's going to roll off in the sub bass because that's how physics works, but for this one it's an exceptional amount of rolloff there. Saying it is like an XB950 is dangerously misleading. Also I found the soundstage to be really disappointing on the 9500 personally
They are outstanding for gaming. Very wide soundstage. Very good imaging. On DOOM, they give me goosebumps because you can play them loud without sounding bright or irritating. The negative effect is that I feel vibrations from the drivers when playing loud and it distracts from the experience.
You're absolutely right, hence why there are no responses. I'm so sick of people saying these have no Soundstage that it almost offends me. When I'm sitting there playing a game and get up because I perceive a knock at the door, how is that not good Soundstage? And I'm not even exaggerating. I literally took my headphones off, went over to the door and looked through the peep hole and no one was there. Kind of felt dumb actually lol.
Apparently some sites list the Philips SHP9500 but are really selling Philips SHP9500S that has a 1.5m cable and 6 - 35 000 Hz instead of 3m and 12 - 35k hz. also lists the plug as being rubber instead of gold plated. A lot of positive reviews about the comfort of this thing. I kind of want this just to have a cheap open back pair of headphones
As someone who was fortunate to try out a pair of Audeze LCD-4z, the SHP9500 are a great headphone. Sound is subjective, so the fact I enjoyed the experience from a $60-90 headphone versus a $4000 pair speaks volumes.
@@metal571 lol worse is bad usage of the word. One is meant to be used with a dac the other removes the need for one. Sorry I should've clarified, if you got money for $4000+ pair of cans pick up the value SHP9500. Won't be a disappointment.
@@TheRealChilly yeah that wasn't specific enough. 4Z is worse in grain, especially in the treble, and the stage is not as wide, yet costs the same as the full LCD-4. SHP9500 is fine for $50. More than that and the $99 HD 599 is a far better headphone, then there's the 6XX above that quite easily, LCD2 above that, etc.
@@metal571 hi man, for first thanks for all the amazing videos, I can clearly see your competence. What do you still think about Sen HD 558/559 ? I've seen they have a quite flat frequency response and I can find them around $60-70. Is it a good option at that price point or is there actually something better (over personal preference) ? Consider that I could use them for casual listening , and eventaully home mixing and mastering (maybe there are better closed headphones at that price but I really don't like them) On budget I've heard really great things about → Koss Porta Pro/KSC 75, Superlux HD 330, 681, 668B and iSK HF-2010 PRO82 (Takstar PRO82 clone) ← but never experienced them. So I'm curious about your opinion.
The width of the soundstage is not there? Boy, do we ever hear differently! The width was the first thing I noticed. I gave it to my sister and she immediately reversed the cups because she felt the orchestra was behind her rather than in front. No width? Please, listen again. As for the rest, I've owned just about every headphone there is over the last 50 years and the Philips is phenominal. If anything it reminds me of the Stax Sigma I owned once in giving a slightly distant perspective with (again) hugely wide soundstage. If I have a criticism of the Philips it's that the treble suckout just before the peak causes a lack of attack or punch in the presence range, leading to a lack of excitement on some tracks, but that conversely has the effect of lending a pleasant smoothness or sheen to the sound, particularly massed strings (I'm into classical). Overall I would rate the Philips as up there with some of the best phones I've heard like the Beyer T1 and T90 , HifiMan HE500, Senn 650 etc. Frankly, your review leaves me totally confused.
Agreed. It's the number one thing that these things really nail. Beats a *lot* of other open backs. Not the exact imaging, but man certain live concerts and recordings sound spacious as hell.
Love your video reviews... in-depth, fair, can tell you know what you're talking about... oh, and the breathy talk-laughs (see 6:57 for example lol) which are sprinkled throughout.
Thank you! Finally, someone, I can finally agree with. I own both the HD600 and SHP9500s. Totally agree with the treble (fake detailed; artificial) and soundstage. I find that the SHP9500s lacks the detail and sound separation that HD600 provides when audio gets "hectic". But, for the price, the headphones are really good. But, I do not agree with people when they say are can replace the HD600's.
I have the SHP9500 and I agree with absolutely everything you've said! I also have the Status Audio CB1, and the CB1 is definitely better. The bass is better extended (closed back), but it is much more balanced, and even though the SHP9500 has a boost in the highs, sometimes the CB1s reveal more detail. The ONLY thing the SHP9500 does better than the CB1 is comfort; they're extremely light on the head and comfortable, but honestly, the CB1 isn't far behind for comfort, at a cheaper price. And also, the soundstage between the two are nearly identical!
thanks for commenting on the edm genre, keep up the fantastic work! and I also have the ad 900x, love them for there female vocals and fps shooters, and just that full sound, you know what I mean.
I recently subbed to your channel, and am really enjoying your reviews more than a lot of others. You give a lot of sound quality information that is useful, and it seems more informative than some 'everything is great!!1' channels like your buddy Z. :)
+Jeffrey Makuch Z is a cool guy and a good source of entertainment but I strongly feel my channel is geared much towards actually trying to help you with serious purchase decisions lol
Hi Metal571! I own a pair of SHP9500(s) for 2 years. I like its fast/transient sounding, but the "confused" sound stage/imaging is definitely a big problem for me. Just comparing with the headphones leveling next to SHP9500 I owned (K701/Q701/K7XX, HD650, DT880), the first thing I notice is SHP9500's treble sounds fuzzy/gritty. It might not be very obvious in music, but definitely shows itself after a short period of listening to TV/Movie/narrative in RPG games. The characters' narrative are confused and mixed around background, all over the place. It is a sense of of accumulated uncomfortable/annoying. A rational implemented headphone like K701 or HD650 will present the narrative in front of you, and the background sound effect around organically. Fortunately, RTing has their measurements on SHP9500. I think the main problem lies in the harmonic distortion. SHP9500 has a level of THD not the same league with K701 series, HD600/HD650 or DT880. www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/philips/shp9500-hifi-precision-stereo
Hi, Metal571. 1 month ago i bought a Samson SR950. Great Headphone for the price ($32 there in USA). I foun it far superior to the ATH-M50X. Although the treble is acceptable, only slightly elevated, I wanted a way to tame it a little bit, especially the mid-highs, wich sounds a bit bright in some (few) female voices. After searching, I found a way: Tame the treble with Kitchen Paper Towel in front of the drivers. After several attempts, I believe I have found the perfect point: One ply o towel paper (of the most strong - Brands Scott or Kleenex) with a 4,5mm diameter hole in the middle. You can adjust the size of the hole, depending of the Paper Towel that you are using: a smaller hole if the paper is more permeable or larger hole if it is less permeable. Anyway, after the mod, the sound became quite warm, neutral and organic. I compared recetnly the moded SR950 with a Sennheiser Momentum 2 and the Samson was far superior: More detail overral, Much bigger soundtage (almost like an semi-open), more defined bass, more neutral mids and similar, and more detailed treble, being never simbilant. It would be great to see you do a review of this headphone, especially after modifying it with the paper towel and comparing it, for example, with the HD600, with is the king of neutrality. Thanks in Advance.
I have the open back version the SR850, unfortunately they have the most uncomfortable stock pads in the history of headphones. Do yourself a favor and get some HM5 pads, or anything that fits K240s.
I thought the stock pads (velour) comfortable enough. But thanks for the suggestion. I intend to by soon the brainwavz round sheepskin pads. I have the pleather hm5 in another headphone and they are great.
They aren't the same pads then. The pads I had felt like something they put on the outside of bumper cars, after 30 minutes it turned them into a medieval torture device. Velour doesn't isolate sound hardly at all, that's probably why yours sound semi open. Other materials definitely would change the sound signature. Here's a video of a guy talking about different pad options for those headphones th-cam.com/video/loCK9DsqeJQ/w-d-xo.html
Rode NT1 is an XLR condenser microphone, and I run it into a Behringer UMC404HD USB microphone interface. These are recorded using that and a webcam via OBS
I just got them today. Just finished 4 hours of a/b testing with my AKG K550. And to be honest.....there wasnt the OH MY GOD I CAN FINALLY HERE THE MUSIC moment. Is it because the k550 is "so good"? Bought it a few years back and used it since with my 60€ SMSL dac/amp. And was pretty satisfied. Now today the 9500 comes in. With a/b testing it feels like the 9500 doesnt even have treble AT ALL. Its crazy. So I dont know if the k550 is just THAT over emphasized in the treble? Or does the 9500 just lack of treble? In the bass I cant hear that much of a difference. The k550 seems to have more punch since its closed but the 9500 is more....defined I would say. So I also ordered a Fiio E10k and a iFi Nano LE for testing. And.....MAYBE I can hear a suttle difference with the iFi being a bit more spaceous but just a little touch. But nothing worth a $150 more. So I probably will stay with my SMSl since its a desktop dac/amp and both of the others are designed for portable use. But I still dont know if the 9500 is just lacking of treble or the music just sounds right now and the K550 was crazy over emphasizing. Opinions? And the HD600/650 sound really similar? Like....not worth spending another $300 for it? I havent had the chance to listen to them. I fairly new to the hifi game anyway. I was just using my Ultimate Ears 900 since a few years on my HTC One M7 (which is supposed to have a good dac and tbh I couldnt really hear a difference on my SMSL dac either. Except for crazy noise without music, usind an airplance adapter fixed it tho) and now on my Moto Z which only has USB C port and came with a USB C to 3.5mm adapter (i guess the dac is inside the cable?! but theres no electronic, how does it work?) and was satisfied over the years. Now my UE900 broke and I bought quick replacement in form of the ATH E40s and....well they sound different, but I dont know if better? More bass punch but not that defined. I guess theyre just not that neutral as the UE900s.....well....yeah. So far. I like them (9500) for their comfort. And I can hear a bit more headroom and soundstage compared to the K550 but honestly no world changing difference as I hear it in almost every review. So now im a bit....confused? Or disillusioned? As I hear everybody talking in so many reviews what they can hear in different dacs and amps and god knows what. Am I just a...bad listener? I was planing on buying a pair of M1060s in the future. I guess I have to pre-listen now as Im not expecting the world changing difference in those. Or spending money on a additional dac (Pro-Ject Dac Box S2+ [32bit/768kHz, DSD, MQA,...]) and a balanced class A amp with balanced cables. Whole package would be about $1000. Lets see what CanJam Berlin brings for me.... Thanks for the review!
Okay now I watched your review....im quite confused even more. You (and apparently everybody else too?) finde these bright and over emphasized in the treble?? Geez. Now I wonder whats wrong with my K550 or my ears?! Am I deaf already? Hm.
+easo91 they usually do with their odd 2k peaks. But the K550/553 actually has the most accurate of any of their cans that I've heard, much moreso than any of their open backs
I just had comparison of SHP9500, AKG K371, and Sennheiser HD58X several weeks ago. SHP9500 is good value, but no comparison to the other 2, other than the sound stage. Upper-mid is recesesed, and with elevated upper-bass(almost 15db difference in FR chart), that resulted in a V-shaped preception(more high & bass than mid). K371 has the best timber, but I cannot stand the narrow sound stage. 58X is the most neutral, even, and sound stage is reasonably good to differentiate the details. Eventually I chose HD58X cuz I also used it for playing my synth, which cannot be EQ'd as the laptop can.
It depends. The 599s are almost twice the price, and IMO, the 9500s are capable of competing, but the 599s win overall.You better check more reviews of both before making your decision
+dnalekaw they are very very different sounding headphones but the DT880's crisp and strong detailing in the highs without being as piercing as the 770 or 990 are what sets it apart
How come lot of people say this has good soundstage but you go to complete opposite saying its bad? do you have anything better for soundstage with the same price 70$
Because that's what I heard from it when I listened to it. I am not going to lie to you on purpose or align with other reviews if my ears disagree. That's always the way this channel has been. At that price it's hard to find any really good open backs, but I'd buy Porta Pro over shp9500 and even the X2 every single time. Your best bet is to look for a used HD 558 if you want the best stage for that price though
@@metal571 thanks for the respond! What about hd559? i see those are around 70€ where i live dont know if theres a major difference between them and the 558
Hey @metal571, really like your reviews because you seem to know what youre talking and not overhyping anything, i just saw your review on this and i really need your help! I was sure that ill get DT770 Pros till i saw this. The price difference isnt the main factor, it surely is better if i spend 1/2 money but if the DT770 is better i wont feel sorry for it. How would you compare those two? How would you compare the sound, and specially the soundstage? What would you recommend me? I'd really appreciate the help, im in a huge dilema now
Haven't tried the k240, but you're comparing 2 different types of headphones. www.rtings.com/headphones/tools/compare/philips-shp9500-vs-akg-k240-mkii/371/387?usage=8866&threshold=0.1
Have both, Philips SHP9500 thrashes AKG K240 in neutral sound profile but the K240s has a flavor that makes certain genres sound good whilst sounding underwhelming on others. I like both but I'm no expert in this field so take me words with a grain of salt.
@@MainstreamBean I picked up the 599s for $99 on black Friday and really like them. very comfortable and much better sound then my old headset. Gonna keep buying Senns from here on out
I owned one before but sold it and mind you its not good for metal. It cant really cope up with the aggressiveness of instruments playing. Treble is out of control and sub bass is noticeably lacking. imo this headphone works best on jazz and classical music.
@@metal571 i can get dt770 for 50$, its still bad? But they on my way now, you think i need to cancel? And i had seen this one www.head-fi.org/threads/headphones-for-metal-music-ultimate-solution.715478/, and for this thread dt770 stay higher than CAL! Im confused..
@@akajeetv6100 Sorry i havent tried the dt770 yet. But if the reviews/your reference says so its not bad then. $50 for a beyerdynamic is pretty much steal. Just stay out of the shp9500 it was my worst blind buy if youre into metal genre.
I think you totally nailed these. I was surprised at how relatively thin the soundstage was when I owned these. I've owned closed-backs that felt a bit wider.
What would you say is worth £100 for gaming? I've been strongly considering these or the HD558's vs Hyper X Cloud's for the 100 margin but now I'm not too sure..
i dunno for me as one who owns a 9500's, formally a HD600, replaced it the HD650. Its definately does have more harsh treble, not so much harsh but harsher than the hd600s and hd650s. There is a rollof but its something that i dont mind. In an imaginary spectrum its a more centered headphone while the 600s would be flat/wide and the 650s geared to the left. Prob why i replaced my 600s woth 650s. But i do think that maybe overtime the soundstage gets better? To me it doesnt sound like it has much much less soundstage than the 600, 650. Otherwise great review. I still love my 9500s i like it with like light rock.
im looking at this headphones to replace my 1st ever headset (hyperX cloud core) for pc use, and im really getting the impression from your review and from others that this has very good sound quality for its price and its comfort is amazing. would you still recommend this at the 80-60$ roughly price range (on my country)? also would you know if there are a lot of fakes of this headphones? i see a lot of variation with the pricing on my country so im not sure if they are legit
hi metal571, do you know about the measurement on rtings (www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/philips/shp9500-hifi-precision-stereo)? According to this, the 9500 does not have good imaging but has very good soundstage. The same happens to HE400i, which is said on many forums to have narrow soundstage. It seems weird, but the measurement of HD800s on this site also indicated that it has very good soundstage too, which matches with what other ones heard.
That site is pretty neat. But I don't know man lol. Some of the stuff on there seems all over the place. HD600 #4 rank for sound stage??? Above the hd 650(#8)? Above K712 (#11)?!?! There's something seriously wrong with their test procedure. Regardless there seems to be a wealth of new information on this site. Thanks for sharing sir. was looking at www.rtings.com/headphones/tests/sound-quality/soundstage btw.
+Vinh Nguyen Toan I don't know how they can measure soundstage on there. Not sure if what they are doing to attempt to measure soundstage really correlates to what people hear
For me it's like this. If you want to spend $300-$500(depends where you live, shippping fee will drive me insane), then buy hd600 and also get a $100+ dacamp, and you'll be happy and content. But if you want a cheap copy of it and will only use it for phone and casual listening, buy the shp9500, no dacamp, no worries. Also buy boom pro mic for gaming. Total price is $100 btw, $100 vs $500, your choice. It would be silly to spend $500 for music found only in spotify and youtube, like for real brah?
Spotify at 320k OGG is actually pretty good quality. Honestly I would recommend the Aurvana Live over the SHP9500 every time though for the cheap setup. The "budget endgame" is 6xx with an sdac/D30 and jds Atom now
Hey Metal is this your best recommendation Open back under 70$ my preferences are mostly natural neutral sound I don't like fun sound I prefer polite sound
Im looking into these headphones and the Audio-Technica ATH-MSR7BK for gaming on PC. Wich ones do you recommend? Im going to paired them up with the V-MODA BoomPro mic. There is like 100 bucks of difference and want to know if its worth it
Edgar Palma Murillo That's a big jump. $70 Neutral open headphones for home use and $200 closed slightly u-shaped headphones geared towards mobile use. What'll be using them for? I'm pretty knowledgable of the headphone market, and while I don't own many headphones I can try to help from what I've heard from other people. But yeah, the MSR7s and SHP9500s are polar opposites.
DeltaWolf X Thanks for the reply bro. I just want to use them as my gaming headset. No plans of taking them out with me. I know that they are totally different because of the open and closed designes, but to tell you the trouth, i have never had the chance to try them either. Hope you can give me some advice here
From close to a decade of reading reviews the very best for gaming in terms of directional and distance accuracy is the ADX line (500X/700X/900X/1000X/2000X). I have the 500X and they are really great (though could use a bass boost). However adding a mic could be a problem (I just use a CAD U37 on my desk). The 9500 does come close, if the 500x or 10/10 I would grade the 9500 9/10 for competitive gaming, and with the detachable cable the BoomPro is a nature fit. I'll link a review of a guy who says the M40x are really good for gaming (I've never listened to them) and also is a natural fit for the BoomPro. I would rather have a 9500 and an M40x than one MSR7BK (open back is nice, but sometimes closed is a necessity, plus you have two separate sound signatures), but for only one the 9500 is the best way to go. edit: almost forgot to link to the M40x review th-cam.com/video/X6wBv03B1nk/w-d-xo.html
Metal571 are those any good for metal ? if not can you recommend headphones for rock, metal and guitar driven music ( I play guitar too) for around 100$ - 150$ ?
metal571 now I'm listening through 50$ iem and I'm always feel the sound in my head .I really don't like that so I'm considering to get open back headphones. I'm looking for a clear punchy sound , I listen to lamb of god , trivium Metallica. Thanks for the help
+idan haviv I would snag a K553 then if you're in the US, K550 mk2 if outside the US. Like I said in the review the SHP9500 does not have a good soundstage despite being open back
metal 571 thanks for the reply. i cant get the k553/550 mk2 from where i live. do you have another recommendation in the 100 rage $? also, can the takstar hi2050/koss porta pro be suitable to me ?
IMHO best first open back headphones are still Superlux HD330 + Beyerdynamic velor pad . In this configuration they cost around 50 euro/dollars, and you can mod the crap out of them. They are very easy to disassemble and change everything inside.
I'm still relatively new to headphones, but have been listening a lot (in stores and to one's I've owned - which have included B&O H6, AKG 553, Fostex T50 MKIII, Philips X1, Fostex TH-XOO's, Audeze iSine 10's, and a couple others). In-store I've listened to many more, usually briefly, including some really high-end cans like Audeze LCD's and Focal Utopias. Haven't had a lot of time with any of those, but have had a taste, and a few (like the Utopias) I was able to sit and listen for a little while to a few kinds of music with. Anyway, the point is that, while I'm not a headphone or hi-fi expert, I have had a bit of experience at this point, and based on my experience I feel that the soundstage on these is epic. Maybe not necessarily from a critical listening point of view in music, but certainly in terms of surround-sound-like effect. When watching movies/tv with these I literally jumped and looked behind me for the longest time (until I got used to it) when there was dialogue/effect happening behind or to the side of me. So I was really confused to hear Metal say soundstage was poor and not recommend these for gaming. I think he may be confusing imaging, separation, and soundstage a bit (I'm sure he knows the difference, but just ito of his speech here). I agree these don't have the best imaging, and that separation is so-so, lacking some tightness and clarity, but soundstage, ito the sensation of being immersed in the music and having it come from all around you (even if the sound itself isn't super tight and accurate), to me seems phenomenal. Would like to hear everyone's opinions, especially from those with a lot of experience in the hobby. Maybe I just haven't heard the right cans? Or haven't spent enough time with the high-end ones? But to me soundstage on these (though not imaging or separation) still seems excellent, and not just for budget cans. There is a lot of air (which I think of as a related thing), and I definitely have the sense of music being open and coming from all around me (though I do tend to notice it most with movies and dialogue). Honestly, my opinion about these cans is that (while I would tweak a a few things, and skew them little more neutral and little up in the bass, like he also seems to feel), I generally like the sound signature, love the soundstage, but just want faster attack/decay and crisper, tighter, cleaner, more accurate and analytical sound - basically a similar thing with higher end drivers. In other words, maybe closer to the HD600's, but without giving up the more open, immersive, and relaxed quality that I (and not Metal, apparently) seem to feel that these have. Am I the only one?
Nope, still sounded like a small soundstage to me, wasn't just imaging that wasn't good but also the soundstage width. I don't know, my test songs I run through all headphones made it pretty obvious. I wish I could get at least 3 units of each headphone I review to see if there's any variation, because sometimes that can skew the reviews.
metal571 hey, thanks for the reply. I suppose it could be the individual set. Do you think it's also possible that something like soundstage is just subjective based on the shape of someone's ear and the structure of their auditory nerves, Etc.? I know people are saying his reviews are less critical, which in some ways I agree with, but Z also praised their soundstage, thought they'd be great for gaming, and definitely thought they had more width than the 600's.
I would really like to hear your thoughts on how they compare to the AKG K240. Here in Brazil they have quite a similar price. Cheers and thanks for all the great reviews.
+Marina Soares thanks and a best of 2017 video is on my list still. Until then stay tuned for my next q/a session where I tend to answer a lot of those kinds of questions
I don't know about gaming but for music the shp9500 is way better than hd668b even with upgraded pads/mods. Zeos talked about the ultra wide Soundstage on the hd668b,I'm not an expert, but I did not hear it. I also think the Soundstage is pretty good on the 9500's but certainly not very wide.
I don't agree with you at all on the Soundstage. For gaming, these have been by far the best headphones/headset (pairs amazing with the VMODA BOOM PRO) I've owned for position cues, etc. (I've gamed on several known gaming headsets through the years, and my loved Creative CALS (for when I needed an okay, closed headphone for lan parties)). With the 9500, I always know where an enemy is placed and on which floor (in Overwatch and Destiny, these are god mode). That said, I haven't gamed with 600/650s or X2s (know for soundstage). I'm now starting to compare my 9500 to my Z7s and m1060 to see which can reigns supreme in games. Two Qs 1) Which games if at all did you play these on and did you use anything to provide surround sound (like an astro) 2) Can you recommend a better headphone for soundstage?
Hey Sean, you are looking at two completely different experiences here. The m40x are closed cans, where the shp9500 are open. For soundstage, opens are king (though some closed cans are good). The increase soundstage will make it tremendously easier to get an understanding of where enemies are at AND just how far away they are. Closed cans really jam everything together so distance to me is harder to pull out. The distance between objects in games matter (games tend to lower the volume to give you assumptions of separation/ distance (and to what degree), but they are not 100% best). If you need a headphone that has to block out all noise (can't hear anything in the room and nobody can usually hear what you're listening to) then the m40x are worth your consideration. If you are not going to play in a noisy environment, don't care if others hear your sounds/music/anything...then the shp9500 are damn hard to beat for the price (Newegg just had them for $50 bucks). Caution for the m40x: The 3.5 input I believe is unique to that headphone and I'm not sure if a standard 3.5 will fit. The vmoda boom might start to insert but may not make full contact. Any closed headphone you may want to purchase, I would look for a standard 3.5 input. Some mods can make the 3.5 doable or you may get the connection to work, however, it may also be unstable or easy to pull out - just a word of caution. If I was in your shoes and you can do open, the 9500's are just so, so good to begin your adventures with. Music sounds great given its pricepoint too :)
Jordan Hayes i know that open back gives better sound stage. I play on a room with not a lot of noise so i prefer the open back for better sound stage. I saw the hd558 got a better one so i thought about spending more on a headset and buy the vmoda boom pro instead the blue snowball ice.thank you very much for responding.
If I remember right the 558's can't use the vmoda. I also prefer the 9500 over the 558 and 598s. The price difference, though not huge, is IMO totally not worth it. 9500...go go go! ;)
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+Zimtron I figured a picky and critical approach based on value for the money overall would attract people who actually care to watch a review for the details and not just entertainment. Thanks.
Funny you should say that... I still watch Zeos because his videos are truly entertaining, and I'm always curious about his opinion on equipment, but they are only very occasionally enlightening from a critical or technical standpoint. I like how you really talk about the headphones.
+Tim Garcia very appreciated, Z and I are actually buds IRL and I still watch him sometimes, especially to learn about all the features certain amps or speakers have. And of course he's entertaining to watch as usual
Entertaining yes, once you get more experienced into this hobby you can't take him serious. Don't get me wrong I still love his videos but the appeal slowly dies.
Zimtron Well obviously these won't beat a $600 headphone. But SHP's soundstaging has very good depth compared to $150 - $200 headphones such as HD 558, ATH M50. In fact, when I spent that $150 on the m50, it felt like my investment didn't bring huge upgrade in sound quality. It definitely sounded better than the SHP due to calmer treble but I ended up returning it
Build 0:22 Comfort 1:00 Sound 2:54 Bass 3:00 Midrange 4:34 Treble 6:00 Soundstage 8:01 Genre Pairing 9:35 Amp Needs 10:10 Conclusion 10:30
These or HD580's?
metal571 what headset you think is better
M40x with blue snowball ice
Shp9500 with blue snowball ice
G4ame one
Or another headset without a mic for 80-90 or a 150 headset with a built mic.
+sean milrad M40x junk for gaming. No soundstage. SHP9500 also not good for gaming. Closed back soundstage in an open back. G4ME One is a 558 with a very good attached mic. Highly recommend that one. However you'll need at least some kind of decent mic input since getting good quality out of 3.5mm mics is quite difficult. If you don't want a headset an ATR2500USB with mic arm and pop filter and a 558 will do the trick nicely. Might blow budget a bit but the 558 actually has a wider soundstage than the 600 making it ideal for gaming.
metal571 so what are your final thoughts.
G4ame one or the 558 with that mic you listed?
I know the game one is 160 dollars but how much the headset and mic combo costs (with a pop filter off course)?
metal571 i just want to get the most from my budget but i dont understand in headset.all i now i the built quality and mic by using it.never compared headsets by sound (dont know why maybe i am bad with all them basses and sound stages)
Could not disagree more. None but the very best open backs are better than the SHP9500, imo. Treble and mid accuracy are much better on the 9500 than all but the very best, and imaging and soundstage are certainly better than the hd600 (which sound flat and closed to many people) and basically on par with all but the very best. The accuracy is astounding. :-) Even rtings have them rated higher than most higher tier headphones, and they are way more comfy, as you must know. SHP9500 is indeed an $80.00 miracle. Heck, they are considered by many to be 98% as good as even the HD800S for 1/25th the price, and much less harsh in many respects. The Shp9500 would be praised and respected even more if they were priced at $399.00. People can't get it into their heads that more expensive does not mean better. I believe they are ridiculed by some because they are miraculously inexpensive, so can't be good, but in blind tests they would be better than almost any other open backs including all but the top hifimans and a couple other "luxury" models. It's funny how real blind tests are so rare in the audiophile headphone world. :-)
couldnt agree more , picked these up for 70 bucks lol and they sound better than my other 400 dollar audiophile headphones lol , insane its only 70 bucks
The EQ settings help a lot, even though they're fine without it.
These aren't the best sounding headphone I own but it gets a ton of playtime because of how goddamn comfortable it is.
Amen!
SHP9500 has a 50mm driver vs. HD600 & HD650 has 40mm driver. The is no compensation for displacement. ;D
The 9500's are not 'better' than the HD600/650... but they are among some of the best price/performance cans out there. Philips did an excellent job with these cans.
4eyescreative SHP means Super Hyped Phones :). It's very good for the price though.
LOL! I haven't heard that, but I like it. The only thing that I can say is that the way we hear things is subjective. These might be great to one person, and hot garbage to another. I got started in this terrible, money sucking hobby with the SHP's. These will always hold a spot in my heart.
Super Hyped is right.
Honestly I do not think its that hyped if there is not thousands of people buying it compared to other high end headphones (judging on the low amount of reviews on amazon compared to the better known headphones). The 9500/9500s is definitely is a diamond in the rough for performance and price.
They are buying it for the price, plain and simple. They are amazing for a $60 headphone, but very weak compared to a $300 headphone. The majority of us who are into this hobby do not make purchases solely based on price.
Problem with the headband/ear pads is sweat takes awhile to dry and since it's made of cloth it can not be wiped off.
Best headphone at it's price point. Superb quality. Philips did a great job with the audio.
metal571, glad you reviewed these. Zeos recently briefly compared the SHP9500 to a LCD-4 during an amp review and called them basically equal (that guy sometimes lol). I no longer have to burn $52 bucks to satisfy my curiosity. Thank you sir.
John Johns can you point the link, I haven't seen that. It would be interesting.
That's hilarious. The LCD4 is in an entirely, crazily, different league.
My ears do not touch the insides.
They comfort is amazing.
They are the most comfortable headphones I have ever worn. I am super sensitive to pressure/comfort so if I think they are the most comfortable I really mean it.
They are super comfy if that's the case, I agree
Owned these and thought they were decent for the price - as you say if you're new to open headphones and want to dip your toes these do well..
I have the hd600 and Philips shp9500. For me I prefer the Philips for sound quality and comfort.
Have you used the shp9500 for games? I'd like to know if they'll serve me better than any gaming headset. I'm currently eyeing the Coolermaster MH751 which is an "upgraded" Takstar Pro 82 as they say.
@@agoogleuser9025 No I just use for movies and music. These would be good for gaming just add a mic.
@@agoogleuser9025 you're comparing open back headphones to a closed back headset. Depends what you prefer.
I love this headphone. Clarity, soundstage, tuning, exciting. Perfect for rock and metal
i have to stop watching this stuff
Yeah stop watching and start buying more cans LOL
best headphone under $1k?...best headphone cost no object?
I have 10 pr of headphones as it is not to mention the 2 prs i have coming to me..i dont think Ill be buying many more "cans"
other than perhaps a "refined" set
+herbyverstink the HD 800 can be found just under a grand nowadays at times. Over that the best I've heard so far is the SR009
HAHAHAHA same
@@metal571 shp9500 better than sr80e?
If one wants the hd600 with cleaner sub bass the 650 seems to have an upper hand there with lesser distortion and more quantity. I am amazed how well the SHP9500 seem to punch at 50$ based on your impressions:)
+Pedro Almeida agreed
I don't get it why people associate good quality with metal and bad quality with plastic. In reality, a good plastic can be way more flexible and resistant than normal metal, and its also way more expensive.
This is definitely true
Maybe they like rust
I absolutely love SHP9500s. They really benefit from an amp, just make sure it has low output impedance. Not so much for volume, but the bass will be bloated if you don't use a low impedance amp.
Wich amp/dac do you use???
How about a fiio k5 pro that’s what I have would that power them good 🤷♂️
@@johngotti8544 Yes, very good.
Uh? shp9500 have bad imaging and no soundstage? Maybe the rigs being used with these cans are a factor in this, but I own both hd600 and shp9500, and there is no comparison, the philips do have soundstage whereas the 600's don't. The 600's are not as wide or deep. Also, imaging! The 9500 are not bad at all! I hear good instrumental separation and localization in these cans. Sure, nothing astonishing like hd800, or stax, etc.., but imaging is definitely there, and it is not confused. Also, aside from the bass roll-off issue, which is common to both 9500 and 600, bass on the 9500 is tighter, more material than on the 600. On the other hand the 600 wins in the mid range, more liquid and classy, and the treble is also more controlled and more elegant; the upper midrange (and its emphasis at 4-5K) is the weakness of the 9500 to me. But they still have more air and resolve a tad more than the 600. It is totally true that the 9500's take eq-ing way better than the 600, but that is to be expected; they have a 50mm diaphragm (vs 40mm), and in general a driver that's some 20 years more modern, so bass can be eq-ed really well on the 9500 whereas it easily distorts or gets boomy on the 600.
I own both the SHP9500 and HD600 also and agree with you!
I don't know about you but with my Cavalli Liquid Carbon X the SHP9500s sound beyond amazing. Besting both AKG K712pro and my recently returned Hifiman He-560 v2 (balanced). The sound stage and imaging is astonishing and not to mention incredible sub-bass with a bit of EQ. I only wish I bought 10 of these when it was sold for $50. To my ears, it pissed all over the he-560 v2 However, a proper amp is required to maximize the 9500s potential like the Carbon X did for mine.
Wow I play DOOM with this headphones and I love the soundstage so much, better than any other "gaming" headset. If you say the soundstage is bad I don't want to know how the good ones sounds. Which are your gaming headphones?, I play on PC with a DAC.Thank you for the video.
+Jun Boo HD 800
metal571 Ah hahaha now I see why. That must be sounding paradise. Thank you, one day I will reach that level for now I'm looking at the M1060. I'm glad I found your channel.
I thought these were pretty good for gaming as well. Bought them at the same time as the 598 SR's to use for gaming, and felt the 598's had a bit better positional coverage, but the 9500's were great.
Jun Boo gaming headphones are usually too V shaped for music listening...in my opinion..
What dac you use?!?!?
Better air, better base, equal in the mids and the treble loses, sound-stage loses (although 600 is known as not having a good sound-stage) 50 bucks vs 300 bucks.
sh00termacg For classical music I guess the hd 600 should sound much better.
9500 are grainy as hell and way less clear
I was worried when I was ordering the Philips SHP9500 because everyone complain about the bass. The bass is great, heats even harder than my old Sony extra bass.
This answered my worry
Lol this is just not true and easily verifiable as such via measurements taken by Rtings
@@metal571 yeah I checked RTINGS too, so bass really is that lacking afterall huh?
Do you still recommend shp9500 if I prefer more bass or is ths sound stage worth it
It's a cheap open back dynamic headphone. It's going to roll off in the sub bass because that's how physics works, but for this one it's an exceptional amount of rolloff there. Saying it is like an XB950 is dangerously misleading. Also I found the soundstage to be really disappointing on the 9500 personally
They are outstanding for gaming. Very wide soundstage. Very good imaging.
On DOOM, they give me goosebumps because you can play them loud without sounding bright or irritating. The negative effect is that I feel vibrations from the drivers when playing loud and it distracts from the experience.
You're absolutely right, hence why there are no responses. I'm so sick of people saying these have no Soundstage that it almost offends me. When I'm sitting there playing a game and get up because I perceive a knock at the door, how is that not good Soundstage? And I'm not even exaggerating. I literally took my headphones off, went over to the door and looked through the peep hole and no one was there. Kind of felt dumb actually lol.
Apparently some sites list the Philips SHP9500 but are really selling Philips SHP9500S that has a 1.5m cable and 6 - 35 000 Hz instead of 3m and 12 - 35k hz. also lists the plug as being rubber instead of gold plated. A lot of positive reviews about the comfort of this thing. I kind of want this just to have a cheap open back pair of headphones
As someone who was fortunate to try out a pair of Audeze LCD-4z, the SHP9500 are a great headphone. Sound is subjective, so the fact I enjoyed the experience from a $60-90 headphone versus a $4000 pair speaks volumes.
The 4Z is noticeably worse than the real LCD-4 unfortunately, which is another league altogether
@@metal571 lol worse is bad usage of the word. One is meant to be used with a dac the other removes the need for one.
Sorry I should've clarified, if you got money for $4000+ pair of cans pick up the value SHP9500. Won't be a disappointment.
@@TheRealChilly yeah that wasn't specific enough. 4Z is worse in grain, especially in the treble, and the stage is not as wide, yet costs the same as the full LCD-4. SHP9500 is fine for $50. More than that and the $99 HD 599 is a far better headphone, then there's the 6XX above that quite easily, LCD2 above that, etc.
@@metal571 hi man, for first thanks for all the amazing videos, I can clearly see your competence.
What do you still think about Sen HD 558/559 ? I've seen they have a quite flat frequency response and I can find them around $60-70. Is it a good option at that price point or is there actually something better (over personal preference) ?
Consider that I could use them for casual listening , and eventaully home mixing and mastering (maybe there are better closed headphones at that price but I really don't like them)
On budget I've heard really great things about → Koss Porta Pro/KSC 75, Superlux HD 330, 681, 668B and iSK HF-2010 PRO82 (Takstar PRO82 clone) ← but never experienced them. So I'm curious about your opinion.
@@PeterCarmaicol go with the 558. The 559 is more like a 518 and is a different tuning
I got these as a gaming headset along with a V-MODA BoomPro in-line mic, works beautifully for me.
BoomPro!
First i smash that like button, then i watch in peace :) love yer vids mate!
The width of the soundstage is not there? Boy, do we ever hear differently! The width was the first thing I noticed. I gave it to my sister and she immediately reversed the cups because she felt the orchestra was behind her rather than in front. No width? Please, listen again.
As for the rest, I've owned just about every headphone there is over the last 50 years and the Philips is phenominal. If anything it reminds me of the Stax Sigma I owned once in giving a slightly distant perspective with (again) hugely wide soundstage. If I have a criticism of the Philips it's that the treble suckout just before the peak causes a lack of attack or punch in the presence range, leading to a lack of excitement on some tracks, but that conversely has the effect of lending a pleasant smoothness or sheen to the sound, particularly massed strings (I'm into classical). Overall I would rate the Philips as up there with some of the best phones I've heard like the Beyer T1 and T90 , HifiMan HE500, Senn 650 etc. Frankly, your review leaves me totally confused.
Agreed. It's the number one thing that these things really nail. Beats a *lot* of other open backs. Not the exact imaging, but man certain live concerts and recordings sound spacious as hell.
Love your video reviews... in-depth, fair, can tell you know what you're talking about... oh, and the breathy talk-laughs (see 6:57 for example lol) which are sprinkled throughout.
Thank you! Finally, someone, I can finally agree with. I own both the HD600 and SHP9500s. Totally agree with the treble (fake detailed; artificial) and soundstage. I find that the SHP9500s lacks the detail and sound separation that HD600 provides when audio gets "hectic". But, for the price, the headphones are really good. But, I do not agree with people when they say are can replace the HD600's.
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My hd600's got wrecked from someone accidentally sitting on it then I bought the shp9500, further proves that the 9500's can replace the hd600's.
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I have the SHP9500 and I agree with absolutely everything you've said! I also have the Status Audio CB1, and the CB1 is definitely better. The bass is better extended (closed back), but it is much more balanced, and even though the SHP9500 has a boost in the highs, sometimes the CB1s reveal more detail.
The ONLY thing the SHP9500 does better than the CB1 is comfort; they're extremely light on the head and comfortable, but honestly, the CB1 isn't far behind for comfort, at a cheaper price.
And also, the soundstage between the two are nearly identical!
The CAL is even better than the cb1 but that trades off more comfort also
@@metal571 The CAL? I'm not familiar with that of which you speak.
@@VenVile Creative Aurvana Live
thanks for commenting on the edm genre, keep up the fantastic work!
and I also have the ad 900x, love them for there female vocals and fps shooters, and just that full sound, you know what I mean.
I recently subbed to your channel, and am really enjoying your reviews more than a lot of others. You give a lot of sound quality information that is useful, and it seems more informative than some 'everything is great!!1' channels like your buddy Z. :)
+Jeffrey Makuch Z is a cool guy and a good source of entertainment but I strongly feel my channel is geared much towards actually trying to help you with serious purchase decisions lol
Hi Metal571! I own a pair of SHP9500(s) for 2 years. I like its fast/transient sounding, but the "confused" sound stage/imaging is definitely a big problem for me. Just comparing with the headphones leveling next to SHP9500 I owned (K701/Q701/K7XX, HD650, DT880), the first thing I notice is SHP9500's treble sounds fuzzy/gritty. It might not be very obvious in music, but definitely shows itself after a short period of listening to TV/Movie/narrative in RPG games. The characters' narrative are confused and mixed around background, all over the place. It is a sense of of accumulated uncomfortable/annoying. A rational implemented headphone like K701 or HD650 will present the narrative in front of you, and the background sound effect around organically. Fortunately, RTing has their measurements on SHP9500. I think the main problem lies in the harmonic distortion. SHP9500 has a level of THD not the same league with K701 series, HD600/HD650 or DT880. www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/philips/shp9500-hifi-precision-stereo
You are describing the treble grain, yes. But it doesn't always correlate with THD in my experience
7:52 What ever happened to the M40x review?
What would you rate this vs SHP600? I found soundstage better and overall sound better on the 9600.
Hi, Metal571. 1 month ago i bought a Samson SR950. Great Headphone for the price ($32 there in USA). I foun it far superior to the ATH-M50X. Although the treble is acceptable, only slightly elevated, I wanted a way to tame it a little bit, especially the mid-highs, wich sounds a bit bright in some (few) female voices. After searching, I found a way: Tame the treble with Kitchen Paper Towel in front of the drivers. After several attempts, I believe I have found the perfect point: One ply o towel paper (of the most strong - Brands Scott or Kleenex) with a 4,5mm diameter hole in the middle. You can adjust the size of the hole, depending of the Paper Towel that you are using: a smaller hole if the paper is more permeable or larger hole if it is less permeable.
Anyway, after the mod, the sound became quite warm, neutral and organic. I compared recetnly the moded SR950 with a Sennheiser Momentum 2 and the Samson was far superior: More detail overral, Much bigger soundtage (almost like an semi-open), more defined bass, more neutral mids and similar, and more detailed treble, being never simbilant.
It would be great to see you do a review of this headphone, especially after modifying it with the paper towel and comparing it, for example, with the HD600, with is the king of neutrality. Thanks in Advance.
I have the open back version the SR850, unfortunately they have the most uncomfortable stock pads in the history of headphones. Do yourself a favor and get some HM5 pads, or anything that fits K240s.
I thought the stock pads (velour) comfortable enough. But thanks for the suggestion. I intend to by soon the brainwavz round sheepskin pads. I have the pleather hm5 in another headphone and they are great.
They aren't the same pads then. The pads I had felt like something they put on the outside of bumper cars, after 30 minutes it turned them into a medieval torture device. Velour doesn't isolate sound hardly at all, that's probably why yours sound semi open. Other materials definitely would change the sound signature. Here's a video of a guy talking about different pad options for those headphones th-cam.com/video/loCK9DsqeJQ/w-d-xo.html
this headphone is so rare in my country and I'm glad I can buy this headphone with "normal" price
What kind of microphone are you using? Is it for camcorder or computer? Both?
Rode NT1 is an XLR condenser microphone, and I run it into a Behringer UMC404HD USB microphone interface. These are recorded using that and a webcam via OBS
I just got them today. Just finished 4 hours of a/b testing with my AKG K550. And to be honest.....there wasnt the OH MY GOD I CAN FINALLY HERE THE MUSIC moment. Is it because the k550 is "so good"? Bought it a few years back and used it since with my 60€ SMSL dac/amp. And was pretty satisfied.
Now today the 9500 comes in. With a/b testing it feels like the 9500 doesnt even have treble AT ALL. Its crazy. So I dont know if the k550 is just THAT over emphasized in the treble? Or does the 9500 just lack of treble?
In the bass I cant hear that much of a difference. The k550 seems to have more punch since its closed but the 9500 is more....defined I would say.
So I also ordered a Fiio E10k and a iFi Nano LE for testing. And.....MAYBE I can hear a suttle difference with the iFi being a bit more spaceous but just a little touch. But nothing worth a $150 more.
So I probably will stay with my SMSl since its a desktop dac/amp and both of the others are designed for portable use.
But I still dont know if the 9500 is just lacking of treble or the music just sounds right now and the K550 was crazy over emphasizing. Opinions?
And the HD600/650 sound really similar? Like....not worth spending another $300 for it? I havent had the chance to listen to them. I fairly new to the hifi game anyway. I was just using my Ultimate Ears 900 since a few years on my HTC One M7 (which is supposed to have a good dac and tbh I couldnt really hear a difference on my SMSL dac either. Except for crazy noise without music, usind an airplance adapter fixed it tho) and now on my Moto Z which only has USB C port and came with a USB C to 3.5mm adapter (i guess the dac is inside the cable?! but theres no electronic, how does it work?) and was satisfied over the years. Now my UE900 broke and I bought quick replacement in form of the ATH E40s and....well they sound different, but I dont know if better? More bass punch but not that defined. I guess theyre just not that neutral as the UE900s.....well....yeah. So far.
I like them (9500) for their comfort. And I can hear a bit more headroom and soundstage compared to the K550 but honestly no world changing difference as I hear it in almost every review. So now im a bit....confused? Or disillusioned? As I hear everybody talking in so many reviews what they can hear in different dacs and amps and god knows what. Am I just a...bad listener?
I was planing on buying a pair of M1060s in the future. I guess I have to pre-listen now as Im not expecting the world changing difference in those. Or spending money on a additional dac (Pro-Ject Dac Box S2+ [32bit/768kHz, DSD, MQA,...]) and a balanced class A amp with balanced cables. Whole package would be about $1000. Lets see what CanJam Berlin brings for me....
Thanks for the review!
Okay now I watched your review....im quite confused even more. You (and apparently everybody else too?) finde these bright and over emphasized in the treble?? Geez. Now I wonder whats wrong with my K550 or my ears?! Am I deaf already? Hm.
+NighteeeY K550 is also pretty bright. Prominent 10k peak. My old pair is still floating around the office and its mids are quite forward also
The newer cheaper 9500S is said to have more treble and less bass so wonder if you would notice the difference.
+easo91 they usually do with their odd 2k peaks. But the K550/553 actually has the most accurate of any of their cans that I've heard, much moreso than any of their open backs
I just had comparison of SHP9500, AKG K371, and Sennheiser HD58X several weeks ago. SHP9500 is good value, but no comparison to the other 2, other than the sound stage. Upper-mid is recesesed, and with elevated upper-bass(almost 15db difference in FR chart), that resulted in a V-shaped preception(more high & bass than mid). K371 has the best timber, but I cannot stand the narrow sound stage. 58X is the most neutral, even, and sound stage is reasonably good to differentiate the details. Eventually I chose HD58X cuz I also used it for playing my synth, which cannot be EQ'd as the laptop can.
What is the point of this EQ? There is a small difference in the sound. Should we use it or not?
Use whatever sounds good to you
Will the shp9500 work well with razer 7.1 and is this better than the gsp 300s?
This or the sennheiser hd599?? Which one is better for music listening??
It depends. The 599s are almost twice the price, and IMO, the 9500s are capable of competing, but the 599s win overall.You better check more reviews of both before making your decision
What are you're EQ settings on peace ? I tested mine off of reddit from shield42 on "shp 9500 tuning" Thanks
How do I try out your eq? My peace EQ doesn't really line up with the eq you've provided in the video description.
Great thorough review. Would you say the SHP9500 or the DT 880? Is the price differential justified? Many thanks.
+dnalekaw they are very very different sounding headphones but the DT880's crisp and strong detailing in the highs without being as piercing as the 770 or 990 are what sets it apart
Z reviews says it has better soundstage than the hd600s and you say otherwise >:(
which one is it?!
Z like friend talk to friend bias hype not technical but fun
@Piyath hater?
Which ones would be better? Philips SHP9500 or Sennheiser 599?
Hd600 or he400i for listening music (acoustic, instrumental, jazz, electronic music with female vocal)? Thanks
How come lot of people say this has good soundstage but you go to complete opposite saying its bad?
do you have anything better for soundstage with the same price 70$
Because that's what I heard from it when I listened to it. I am not going to lie to you on purpose or align with other reviews if my ears disagree. That's always the way this channel has been. At that price it's hard to find any really good open backs, but I'd buy Porta Pro over shp9500 and even the X2 every single time. Your best bet is to look for a used HD 558 if you want the best stage for that price though
@@metal571 thanks for the respond! What about hd559? i see those are around 70€ where i live dont know if theres a major difference between them and the 558
559 is more like a 518. Not the same sound, much warmer and not really in a good way
I'm with metal on this. Never understand what the hype is about. These phones sound really closed in an nasal.
Hello
thank you for these honest and great reviews.
Have you changed your amp/dac?
If so what were the old ones replaced with?
+Hooman Z only upgraded to Magni 2 Uber Modi 2 Uber
Hey @metal571, really like your reviews because you seem to know what youre talking and not overhyping anything, i just saw your review on this and i really need your help!
I was sure that ill get DT770 Pros till i saw this. The price difference isnt the main factor, it surely is better if i spend 1/2 money but if the DT770 is better i wont feel sorry for it. How would you compare those two? How would you compare the sound, and specially the soundstage? What would you recommend me? I'd really appreciate the help, im in a huge dilema now
Which one did you buy? Im in the same situation as you!
I share your opinion on this headphone esp on the soundstage and treble area. "A confused close headphone" nails it
what is the best Philips SHP9500 or AKG K240 MKII?
Haven't tried the k240, but you're comparing 2 different types of headphones.
www.rtings.com/headphones/tools/compare/philips-shp9500-vs-akg-k240-mkii/371/387?usage=8866&threshold=0.1
Have both, Philips SHP9500 thrashes AKG K240 in neutral sound profile but the K240s has a flavor that makes certain genres sound good whilst sounding underwhelming on others. I like both but I'm no expert in this field so take me words with a grain of salt.
IUVENIS and what about AKG K245?
Have you reviewed the Philips Fidelio X1 or X2?
+Jon Marinos not yet
These or HD 599 from Sennheiser?
By far the HD 599 from my experience. Own both headphones, and I rarely ever pick up the SHP9500's anymore.
@@MainstreamBean I picked up the 599s for $99 on black Friday and really like them. very comfortable and much better sound then my old headset. Gonna keep buying Senns from here on out
Yeah definitely the 599, no question there
@ROMERO { 115 } enjoyment is pretty subjective but yeah there's no contest against the Sennheisers there, or the LCD-1 and Sundara
Hey nice review metal, too bad you stopped doing videos i would've liked to hear your take on the SHP9600. Which one would you recommend though?
Are they good for mixing and mastering? If not which would you best recommend.
+Haze Prod. I would get a K553 for a budget mixing headphone
have you compared the shp9500 to 9600 or x2s ? im curious which one of the 3 is better for gaming
Nope and I don't review anymore so unfortunately you'll have to find that info elsewhere
How they for metal? Heavy, Trash, Speed, Progressive? Detailed? Not slow?
I owned one before but sold it and mind you its not good for metal. It cant really cope up with the aggressiveness of instruments playing. Treble is out of control and sub bass is noticeably lacking. imo this headphone works best on jazz and classical music.
Yep what 3J said, I'd get an Aurvana live for that
@@prince_adobo i can get dt770 for 50$, its still bad? But they on my way now, you think i need to cancel?
@@metal571 i can get dt770 for 50$, its still bad? But they on my way now, you think i need to cancel? And i had seen this one www.head-fi.org/threads/headphones-for-metal-music-ultimate-solution.715478/, and for this thread dt770 stay higher than CAL! Im confused..
@@akajeetv6100 Sorry i havent tried the dt770 yet. But if the reviews/your reference says so its not bad then. $50 for a beyerdynamic is pretty much steal. Just stay out of the shp9500 it was my worst blind buy if youre into metal genre.
hey metal571, can these headphones be adapted to become wireless?
I think you totally nailed these. I was surprised at how relatively thin the soundstage was when I owned these. I've owned closed-backs that felt a bit wider.
Headphone Go: Gotta Review Em All !
It’s all relative to the listener. Just like speakers. One person hears one thing, others don’t, so for the price it’s pretty hard to beat.
Yeah exactly. Ears are shaped differently, and brains interpret differently.
How dare you talk sense and logic broooooooo
What would you say is worth £100 for gaming? I've been strongly considering these or the HD558's vs Hyper X Cloud's for the 100 margin but now I'm not too sure..
+Azra 558s are a lot better
Best reviews I've ever watched. Very good channel !
Which headphone should I buy under 200$?
Philips SHP9500 vs Senn HD599? Price doesn't matter. I tried the HD650 and didn't like the unfocused vocals and little bass. Any advice please?
+Ph3nomen0N you won't like either of those then
Just got the HD599, love them more than the 650. My search is over.
i dunno for me as one who owns a 9500's, formally a HD600, replaced it the HD650. Its definately does have more harsh treble, not so much harsh but harsher than the hd600s and hd650s. There is a rollof but its something that i dont mind. In an imaginary spectrum its a more centered headphone while the 600s would be flat/wide and the 650s geared to the left. Prob why i replaced my 600s woth 650s. But i do think that maybe overtime the soundstage gets better? To me it doesnt sound like it has much much less soundstage than the 600, 650. Otherwise great review. I still love my 9500s i like it with like light rock.
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im looking at this headphones to replace my 1st ever headset (hyperX cloud core) for pc use, and im really getting the impression from your review and from others that this has very good sound quality for its price and its comfort is amazing. would you still recommend this at the 80-60$ roughly price range (on my country)?
also would you know if there are a lot of fakes of this headphones? i see a lot of variation with the pricing on my country so im not sure if they are legit
It was fine at $50, not $80. Porta Pro is better if you want an open back for music
@@metal571 okay! ill check that out, what about for general use not just music, so for watching movies, and playing games? thanks for the response!
Works ok for everything as long as soundstage is not a big deal
@@metal571 great! thanks for the recommendation. im checking it out now :) i hope we have this in our area/country
I actually like how they touch my ears. Is that odd?
hi metal571, do you know about the measurement on rtings (www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/philips/shp9500-hifi-precision-stereo)? According to this, the 9500 does not have good imaging but has very good soundstage. The same happens to HE400i, which is said on many forums to have narrow soundstage. It seems weird, but the measurement of HD800s on this site also indicated that it has very good soundstage too, which matches with what other ones heard.
That site is pretty neat. But I don't know man lol. Some of the stuff on there seems all over the place. HD600 #4 rank for sound stage??? Above the hd 650(#8)? Above K712 (#11)?!?! There's something seriously wrong with their test procedure. Regardless there seems to be a wealth of new information on this site. Thanks for sharing sir. was looking at www.rtings.com/headphones/tests/sound-quality/soundstage btw.
+Vinh Nguyen Toan I don't know how they can measure soundstage on there. Not sure if what they are doing to attempt to measure soundstage really correlates to what people hear
Are these worth the price + shipping aroud 120 USD? BTW, I'm not living in the US.
+RhythmCaster no way. 80 bucks or less. At that price you should be getting a 558
Thank you metal571.
For me it's like this. If you want to spend $300-$500(depends where you live, shippping fee will drive me insane), then buy hd600 and also get a $100+ dacamp, and you'll be happy and content. But if you want a cheap copy of it and will only use it for phone and casual listening, buy the shp9500, no dacamp, no worries. Also buy boom pro mic for gaming. Total price is $100 btw, $100 vs $500, your choice. It would be silly to spend $500 for music found only in spotify and youtube, like for real brah?
Spotify at 320k OGG is actually pretty good quality. Honestly I would recommend the Aurvana Live over the SHP9500 every time though for the cheap setup. The "budget endgame" is 6xx with an sdac/D30 and jds Atom now
Certainly won't hurt. Many people prefer the 580 or 600 to the 6XX
Hi Metal571, those are brighter than the Beyyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro???
Hey Metal is this your best recommendation Open back under 70$ my preferences are mostly natural neutral sound I don't like fun sound I prefer polite sound
Porta Pro
Im looking into these headphones and the Audio-Technica ATH-MSR7BK for gaming on PC. Wich ones do you recommend? Im going to paired them up with the V-MODA BoomPro mic. There is like 100 bucks of difference and want to know if its worth it
Edgar Palma Murillo That's a big jump. $70 Neutral open headphones for home use and $200 closed slightly u-shaped headphones geared towards mobile use.
What'll be using them for? I'm pretty knowledgable of the headphone market, and while I don't own many headphones I can try to help from what I've heard from other people. But yeah, the MSR7s and SHP9500s are polar opposites.
DeltaWolf X Thanks for the reply bro. I just want to use them as my gaming headset. No plans of taking them out with me. I know that they are totally different because of the open and closed designes, but to tell you the trouth, i have never had the chance to try them either. Hope you can give me some advice here
From close to a decade of reading reviews the very best for gaming in terms of directional and distance accuracy is the ADX line (500X/700X/900X/1000X/2000X). I have the 500X and they are really great (though could use a bass boost). However adding a mic could be a problem (I just use a CAD U37 on my desk). The 9500 does come close, if the 500x or 10/10 I would grade the 9500 9/10 for competitive gaming, and with the detachable cable the BoomPro is a nature fit. I'll link a review of a guy who says the M40x are really good for gaming (I've never listened to them) and also is a natural fit for the BoomPro.
I would rather have a 9500 and an M40x than one MSR7BK (open back is nice, but sometimes closed is a necessity, plus you have two separate sound signatures), but for only one the 9500 is the best way to go.
edit: almost forgot to link to the M40x review th-cam.com/video/X6wBv03B1nk/w-d-xo.html
Metal571 are those any good for metal ?
if not can you recommend headphones for rock, metal and guitar driven music ( I play guitar too) for around 100$ - 150$ ?
Depends on the sound you are looking for. Whether any headphone works well for any genre is totally subjective.
metal571 now I'm listening through 50$ iem and I'm always feel the sound in my head .I really don't like that so I'm considering to get open back headphones. I'm looking for a clear punchy sound , I listen to lamb of god , trivium Metallica. Thanks for the help
+idan haviv I would snag a K553 then if you're in the US, K550 mk2 if outside the US. Like I said in the review the SHP9500 does not have a good soundstage despite being open back
metal 571 thanks for the reply. i cant get the k553/550 mk2 from where i live. do you have another recommendation in the 100 rage $?
also, can the takstar hi2050/koss porta pro be suitable to me ?
This is basically the HD600 without that signature Sennheiser veil.
IMHO best first open back headphones are still Superlux HD330 + Beyerdynamic velor pad . In this configuration they cost around 50 euro/dollars, and you can mod the crap out of them. They are very easy to disassemble and change everything inside.
Hi can you point me on the right direction to learn the correct way of headphones equalization?, thank you.
+Jun Boo look at my EqualizerAPO video
metal571 Yes, thank you. You have a new subscriber.
Between SHP9500 and SR80e, which one is better?
+Powertix definitely the 9500
would these be a good upgrade from monoprice 8323?
I'm still relatively new to headphones, but have been listening a lot (in stores and to one's I've owned - which have included B&O H6, AKG 553, Fostex T50 MKIII, Philips X1, Fostex TH-XOO's, Audeze iSine 10's, and a couple others). In-store I've listened to many more, usually briefly, including some really high-end cans like Audeze LCD's and Focal Utopias. Haven't had a lot of time with any of those, but have had a taste, and a few (like the Utopias) I was able to sit and listen for a little while to a few kinds of music with. Anyway, the point is that, while I'm not a headphone or hi-fi expert, I have had a bit of experience at this point, and based on my experience I feel that the soundstage on these is epic. Maybe not necessarily from a critical listening point of view in music, but certainly in terms of surround-sound-like effect. When watching movies/tv with these I literally jumped and looked behind me for the longest time (until I got used to it) when there was dialogue/effect happening behind or to the side of me. So I was really confused to hear Metal say soundstage was poor and not recommend these for gaming. I think he may be confusing imaging, separation, and soundstage a bit (I'm sure he knows the difference, but just ito of his speech here). I agree these don't have the best imaging, and that separation is so-so, lacking some tightness and clarity, but soundstage, ito the sensation of being immersed in the music and having it come from all around you (even if the sound itself isn't super tight and accurate), to me seems phenomenal. Would like to hear everyone's opinions, especially from those with a lot of experience in the hobby. Maybe I just haven't heard the right cans? Or haven't spent enough time with the high-end ones? But to me soundstage on these (though not imaging or separation) still seems excellent, and not just for budget cans. There is a lot of air (which I think of as a related thing), and I definitely have the sense of music being open and coming from all around me (though I do tend to notice it most with movies and dialogue). Honestly, my opinion about these cans is that (while I would tweak a a few things, and skew them little more neutral and little up in the bass, like he also seems to feel), I generally like the sound signature, love the soundstage, but just want faster attack/decay and crisper, tighter, cleaner, more accurate and analytical sound - basically a similar thing with higher end drivers. In other words, maybe closer to the HD600's, but without giving up the more open, immersive, and relaxed quality that I (and not Metal, apparently) seem to feel that these have. Am I the only one?
Nope, still sounded like a small soundstage to me, wasn't just imaging that wasn't good but also the soundstage width. I don't know, my test songs I run through all headphones made it pretty obvious. I wish I could get at least 3 units of each headphone I review to see if there's any variation, because sometimes that can skew the reviews.
metal571 hey, thanks for the reply. I suppose it could be the individual set. Do you think it's also possible that something like soundstage is just subjective based on the shape of someone's ear and the structure of their auditory nerves, Etc.? I know people are saying his reviews are less critical, which in some ways I agree with, but Z also praised their soundstage, thought they'd be great for gaming, and definitely thought they had more width than the 600's.
Z does not have any set criteria for liking things. He is entertainment, but not a reviewer I would use to make a single purchase decision honestly.
what's with the eq present in the description? Is it like making these sound as good as possible
Take a look at my video on EqualizerAPO
metal571 Thanks for the reply!
Great review as usual. If you didn't know the price, just on sound and build quality, how much would you say the SHP9500 is worth ?
+medwatt still between 50-100 bucks all things considered
Nice review BTW
I would really like to hear your thoughts on how they compare to the AKG K240. Here in Brazil they have quite a similar price. Cheers and thanks for all the great reviews.
You mention the K240 in the end, but I'd really like to know if there are specs (comfort or soundstage for instance) that the K240 beats these.
Would this Philips shp9500 do good if I bump the bass up on eq since it doesn’t have bass just regular out the box 🤷♂️
Try the eq in the description, using peaceEQ. I'll get on in a few days and try the eq if the bass is not enough
do you have a recommendations list anywhere? love your videos !
+Marina Soares thanks and a best of 2017 video is on my list still. Until then stay tuned for my next q/a session where I tend to answer a lot of those kinds of questions
Now they're over 100 bucks, still worth it?
79$
@@defaultcamo4288 not in my country.
Does this comment deserve a thumbs up? :D
Fidelio X2 review coming anytime soon?
+Tareq Haider haven't found a source for getting a review unit of that
I hope you do.It deserves an honest review.
Aye i listen hip hop, trap and i wanna focus on monitoring too. What heaphones under 200 would you recommend me? Answer please!!!
+Oscar Méndez AKG K553 will tell the truth
metal571 AKG 553 or Beyerdynamic DT 770?
+Oscar Méndez K553 every time if accuracy is the most important
how would you compare the Superlux HD668b for gaming?
I don't know about gaming but for music the shp9500 is way better than hd668b even with upgraded pads/mods. Zeos talked about the ultra wide Soundstage on the hd668b,I'm not an expert, but I did not hear it. I also think the Soundstage is pretty good on the 9500's but certainly not very wide.
I don't agree with you at all on the Soundstage. For gaming, these have been by far the best headphones/headset (pairs amazing with the VMODA BOOM PRO) I've owned for position cues, etc. (I've gamed on several known gaming headsets through the years, and my loved Creative CALS (for when I needed an okay, closed headphone for lan parties)). With the 9500, I always know where an enemy is placed and on which floor (in Overwatch and Destiny, these are god mode). That said, I haven't gamed with 600/650s or X2s (know for soundstage). I'm now starting to compare my 9500 to my Z7s and m1060 to see which can reigns supreme in games. Two Qs 1) Which games if at all did you play these on and did you use anything to provide surround sound (like an astro) 2) Can you recommend a better headphone for soundstage?
Jordan Hayes do you think the m40x with a vmoda mic will be better than shp9500 with blue snowball ice?
I'd sooner buy a Samson Go than the blue snowball. M40x is pointless for gaming...
Hey Sean, you are looking at two completely different experiences here. The m40x are closed cans, where the shp9500 are open. For soundstage, opens are king (though some closed cans are good). The increase soundstage will make it tremendously easier to get an understanding of where enemies are at AND just how far away they are. Closed cans really jam everything together so distance to me is harder to pull out. The distance between objects in games matter (games tend to lower the volume to give you assumptions of separation/ distance (and to what degree), but they are not 100% best).
If you need a headphone that has to block out all noise (can't hear anything in the room and nobody can usually hear what you're listening to) then the m40x are worth your consideration. If you are not going to play in a noisy environment, don't care if others hear your sounds/music/anything...then the shp9500 are damn hard to beat for the price (Newegg just had them for $50 bucks).
Caution for the m40x: The 3.5 input I believe is unique to that headphone and I'm not sure if a standard 3.5 will fit. The vmoda boom might start to insert but may not make full contact. Any closed headphone you may want to purchase, I would look for a standard 3.5 input. Some mods can make the 3.5 doable or you may get the connection to work, however, it may also be unstable or easy to pull out - just a word of caution.
If I was in your shoes and you can do open, the 9500's are just so, so good to begin your adventures with. Music sounds great given its pricepoint too :)
Jordan Hayes i know that open back gives better sound stage.
I play on a room with not a lot of noise so i prefer the open back for better sound stage.
I saw the hd558 got a better one so i thought about spending more on a headset and buy the vmoda boom pro instead the blue snowball ice.thank you very much for responding.
If I remember right the 558's can't use the vmoda. I also prefer the 9500 over the 558 and 598s. The price difference, though not huge, is IMO totally not worth it. 9500...go go go! ;)
B&O H6 2nd Gen video soon(tm)?
Heads up to fellow Europeans:
B&O H6 2nd Gen for 154 at amazon.es
www.amazon.es/PLAY-Bang-Olufsen-BeoPlay-Auriculares/dp/B01B45RTSK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1500375928&sr=8-1&keywords=bo+h6
Is it better than 598 se ?
You absolutely nailed this review, I cant stand to watch Zeos anymore ... everything is "amazeballs". Keep up the good work!
+Zimtron I figured a picky and critical approach based on value for the money overall would attract people who actually care to watch a review for the details and not just entertainment. Thanks.
Funny you should say that... I still watch Zeos because his videos are truly entertaining, and I'm always curious about his opinion on equipment, but they are only very occasionally enlightening from a critical or technical standpoint. I like how you really talk about the headphones.
+Tim Garcia very appreciated, Z and I are actually buds IRL and I still watch him sometimes, especially to learn about all the features certain amps or speakers have. And of course he's entertaining to watch as usual
Entertaining yes, once you get more experienced into this hobby you can't take him serious. Don't get me wrong I still love his videos but the appeal slowly dies.
Zimtron Well obviously these won't beat a $600 headphone. But SHP's soundstaging has very good depth compared to $150 - $200 headphones such as HD 558, ATH M50. In fact, when I spent that $150 on the m50, it felt like my investment didn't bring huge upgrade in sound quality. It definitely sounded better than the SHP due to calmer treble but I ended up returning it
Facts on the bass & I'm comparin these to the Sennheiser Jubilee's which are supposed to have more bass.
Definitely do, easy to see that on Rtings too
You should do a review of SHP9600 too if and when you have some time, sir.
Audio-Technica M40x or
Philips SHP9500 for music,movies...?
Do you want to use them in public as well? M40X. You wanna use them mostly in your room or somewhere private? SHP9500.
Creative Aurvana Live
Under 100 bucks that's the best there is that I know of regardless of open or closed
@@metal571 CAL one or two?
1 only, the 2 is less balanced. Now that it's out you can also look at the K361