I'd love to see more videos on screaming/singing vocals alike. I always think I need so many vocal tracks to sound big/wide, and I do find myself deleting tracks and it sounding better, but it's still sometimes lacking the width, power I hear on professional records.
I stumbled across your video while researching that reverse echo thing that people use to lead into a scream in a vocal track. This was a really helpful for mixing/producing. Great video. I am found this out by accident on not just screaming vocals, but many other vocals as well. Great technique and explanation. Thanks!
This is so fu**ing true! I got my best mixes when i used less guitar tracks and now i only double track my guitars and bring in more guitars just when need to. Great video as always! \m/
I know this is an old comment but the vocalist is Blake Prince, from the southern Ontario Canada area, and everything the dude touches is gold. He was also the vocalist of the band straight reads the line, as well as this band, Skynet, and the former was probably one of the best local bands we ever had here.
But if I have scream vocals only on the chorus (Linkin Park style, with clean vocals in the verses) wouldn't it be good to have the stereo doubles for the choruses (with the harmonies maybe sung clean)?
me: i only overdub the important phrases, i hope he's not gonna tell me to double everything this guy: affirms that my whole spitballing so far has been just right
@Hardcore Music Studio Can you or someone clarify what he means by "using left and right" doubles? Do you mean left and right channels by panning left and right? What does "single tracking the lead vocal" mean? Center channel (no panning) in mono?
Yes, you got it right. Instead of recording multiple takes of the same part and layering the takes in top of each other, you just have a single mono take for the lead part. Then a left panned and right panned take, just where you want emphasis on certain words. So you'd have three or four total vocal tracks, main up the middle, backing hard panned left and right.
Hardcore Music Studio OK thanks. Again great advice. I am mixing my own album now and it sounds big and good on almost every device I test it on...thanks to mix vault that I purchased awhile ago 🤘🏻
From my experience (which isn't too expansive lol) I've had a lot of success simply using a combination of a strong compression with very fast attack/release and large ratio, solid EQ, and a small amount of stereo widening. It sounds like on this video with his vocal tracks, he's also using a distortion effect on the vocals very slightly just to add a bit more grit and aggressiveness to the tone, which can help, but I tend to stay away from distortion plug-ins on vocal mixing personally.
Less is more but the vocalist is either very controlled or the vocals are highly compressed. But yeah, a lot of time what makes a thing sound muddy or un-energetic, it's because there's TOO MUCH competing for space/sound, and so NOTHING gets the space it needs to really ring and be brilliant.
Jordan, thanks so much for all your useful information. I’m on the email list and your channel has proven to be quite a valuable resource for me. Quick question with this video: one of the dub tracks is stereo, while the rest are mono. What’s the reason for this? Thanks so much
I think he explains it at 3:12. For emphazising parts, he is using double tracks in stereo and if there is also a low vocal line, he puts it mono in the middle.
Kevin Schattevoi Forgive my rookie questions, but did that stereo track start out as 2 separate mono takes that were somehow turned into one single stereo track? If so, why not keep them as two mono tracks panned hard left and right?
@@HollerAtcherBoi probably I don't know more than you. If u are recording with the same mic I guess it doesn't make any difference. Maybe he just put it into one track for a better overview?!
sorry for the confusion on this. They were recorded as two separate takes, and then at mix time I combined them on to one stereo track. You can do this in pro Tools by just dragging to mono clips onto a stereo track.
Well, i don't know. Looks like very stupid idea - screaming all the time.. I mean, if you sings about something sad and then screaming, just for contrast, its cool, but yell like a half-cut all the time - its so boring to hear!
Can crying Millennials die already? More outdated than crying Millennials in 2017. Don't like it, don't listen to it. I know... you'd have to make a decision on your own, but, it can be done.
Something that is a fundamental vocal technique can’t be outdated. That’s like saying singing is outdated despite it being a core element of most music. Metal uses aggressive vocals for a reason, if you don’t like it just don’t listen.
I love it when you tell me I'm already doing things the right way.
This mix sounds soooo thick yet sooo clear. The less = more approach works yet again, thanks Jordan!
I’ve been recording for about 10 years, but today is the first day that I’ll be mixing screamed vocals. You’re videos have been invaluable! Thank you!
*your
I love how simplicity works greater.
I'd love to see more videos on screaming/singing vocals alike. I always think I need so many vocal tracks to sound big/wide, and I do find myself deleting tracks and it sounding better, but it's still sometimes lacking the width, power I hear on professional records.
I stumbled across your video while researching that reverse echo thing that people use to lead into a scream in a vocal track. This was a really helpful for mixing/producing. Great video. I am found this out by accident on not just screaming vocals, but many other vocals as well. Great technique and explanation. Thanks!
This is so fu**ing true! I got my best mixes when i used less guitar tracks and now i only double track my guitars and bring in more guitars just when need to. Great video as always! \m/
Im a vocalist and must say, that i really enjoyed the Vocal Performance. Good intensive takes, great job!
I know this is an old comment but the vocalist is Blake Prince, from the southern Ontario Canada area, and everything the dude touches is gold. He was also the vocalist of the band straight reads the line, as well as this band, Skynet, and the former was probably one of the best local bands we ever had here.
Makes sense! Thank you.
Very cool. I was always told to always double screams, it is refreshing to see a single take up the center. Cheers! Great video.
Can you make a video about your signal chain? Like what Di box, interface and preamp youre using... Thanks for the tips!
This is seriously the best page on youtube. Thanks so much Jordan.
Great job man on your music your doing a good job keep up the good work
Excellent as always
This song is incredible. Mix is amazing. Vocalist is a fucking god
I’m new when it comes to recording vocals and this helped so much! Thanks!!
Thank you for this I'm happy I was doing it the right way I also learned alot
This Was A Very Helpful Video🔥
Blake Prince
good stuff ! depending on my finances next year I may be tempted to get hardcore tracking as it did look pretty sweet :)
But if I have scream vocals only on the chorus (Linkin Park style, with clean vocals in the verses) wouldn't it be good to have the stereo doubles for the choruses (with the harmonies maybe sung clean)?
"Can you make a video about your signal chain? Like what Di box, interface and preamp youre using... Thanks for the tips!
" Yes plz !
me: i only overdub the important phrases, i hope he's not gonna tell me to double everything
this guy: affirms that my whole spitballing so far has been just right
@Hardcore Music Studio
Can you or someone clarify what he means by "using left and right" doubles?
Do you mean left and right channels by panning left and right?
What does "single tracking the lead vocal" mean?
Center channel (no panning) in mono?
Yes, you got it right. Instead of recording multiple takes of the same part and layering the takes in top of each other, you just have a single mono take for the lead part. Then a left panned and right panned take, just where you want emphasis on certain words. So you'd have three or four total vocal tracks, main up the middle, backing hard panned left and right.
I don't get where your stereo vocal came from? Did you record a take with 2 mics?
When I hear that loud click I always want less of it but then on real speakers it sounds fine
Skynet! So fire
Jordan how do you record the stereo vocals? With 1 stereo mic (or 2 mics next to each other) or do you use 1 mic and let the singer sing it twice?
One mic, separate takes. I just combine them into a stereo track when I mix, since I want them panned out hard left and right.
Hardcore Music Studio OK thanks. Again great advice. I am mixing my own album now and it sounds big and good on almost every device I test it on...thanks to mix vault that I purchased awhile ago 🤘🏻
that's awesome! thanks dude
how did you mix that 6:33 coming back part?
How do you make a single vocal take up the middle sound beefy/thick enough without going ultra wide or layering too much?
From my experience (which isn't too expansive lol) I've had a lot of success simply using a combination of a strong compression with very fast attack/release and large ratio, solid EQ, and a small amount of stereo widening. It sounds like on this video with his vocal tracks, he's also using a distortion effect on the vocals very slightly just to add a bit more grit and aggressiveness to the tone, which can help, but I tend to stay away from distortion plug-ins on vocal mixing personally.
Less is more but the vocalist is either very controlled or the vocals are highly compressed.
But yeah, a lot of time what makes a thing sound muddy or un-energetic, it's because there's TOO MUCH competing for space/sound, and so NOTHING gets the space it needs to really ring and be brilliant.
Jordan, thanks so much for all your useful information. I’m on the email list and your channel has proven to be quite a valuable resource for me. Quick question with this video: one of the dub tracks is stereo, while the rest are mono. What’s the reason for this? Thanks so much
I think he explains it at 3:12. For emphazising parts, he is using double tracks in stereo and if there is also a low vocal line, he puts it mono in the middle.
Kevin Schattevoi Forgive my rookie questions, but did that stereo track start out as 2 separate mono takes that were somehow turned into one single stereo track? If so, why not keep them as two mono tracks panned hard left and right?
@@HollerAtcherBoi probably I don't know more than you. If u are recording with the same mic I guess it doesn't make any difference. Maybe he just put it into one track for a better overview?!
sorry for the confusion on this. They were recorded as two separate takes, and then at mix time I combined them on to one stereo track. You can do this in pro Tools by just dragging to mono clips onto a stereo track.
what's the song on spotify?
What song is this? sounds great lol
I think i really need the spl plugin...
This song rips
Dude for fucking real. What is this song?!?
@@br00talzd00d Skynet - Heart Burn
Architects new Single?
Every time I record vocals, singing or screaming.. the waves forms are never even, they’re all choppy and uneven sometimes. Any thoughts? Thanks man!!
Compress on the way in
What’s the song called??
What's the song an band??
Skynet-heart burn
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Hey! I wrote this! 🤘
What is the title of this song ? It sounds wow !
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Although not relevant to this video, I would have liked to hear this "Filtervox" channel, too! :)
What's the app name?
What’s this song???
Any tips for clean singing layers? Would this work well for layering clean vocals?
I definitely think this approach works with cleans as well. From my experience at least
WHAT BAND IS THIS
Idk if you ever got the answer but it's Skynet
Just a LITTE more
If everything is big, then nothing is big…
Nice
Is he doing frys?
Yes
The singer must be very angry.
Did he really say to get a "clean" mix?!
Well, i don't know. Looks like very stupid idea - screaming all the time.. I mean, if you sings about something sad and then screaming, just for contrast, its cool, but yell like a half-cut all the time - its so boring to hear!
Thanks for the Awesome video but an Emo rock with Djent guitars , 00000000 riffs and nonsense screaming is not metal.
Agreed, it is obviously jazz
music 🤦♂️
it's metal
Can screaming metal vocals die already. More outdated than hair metal in the 90’s.
Can crying Millennials die already? More outdated than crying Millennials in 2017.
Don't like it, don't listen to it. I know... you'd have to make a decision on your own, but, it can be done.
found the dad
You know you didn't have to watch the video right?
Might I ask, what do you listen to?
Something that is a fundamental vocal technique can’t be outdated. That’s like saying singing is outdated despite it being a core element of most music. Metal uses aggressive vocals for a reason, if you don’t like it just don’t listen.