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- Dave replaces a cracked 5th gen iPad touch screen. Content rock bottom? But child happy, and one less new iPad that needs to be manufactured.
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UPDATE: The button seems to be a crap design. The tactile switch requires that backing plate to be solidly glued to the front panel. It came loose and the button didn't work any more. I had to take apart again and epoxy the backing plate in place to the front glass.
And it should help to use tape over the broken glass to prevent fragments flying everywhere.
Welcome to post Job’s Apple products
Its Crapple, think different, think broken.
You might be able to get a gig at Ipad Rehab now Dave :)
It reminds me of the first time I replaced an iPad screen back in 2015. took half an hour and i ended up having to manipulate the back plate too because one of the corners was too messed up to receive the new glass. obviously found that out after peeling off the strips on the adhesive. oh well, you have to start somewhere, lol
Are other tablets of comparable quality any different though? I feel like that's the price you pay to make it so thin.
I'd say good job for a 1st timer repair, about the one thing I'd suggest would have been to cover the shattered display with packing tape. It's a common trick to keep shattered displays in one piece with alot less shards to vacuum up afterwards. Other than that, everything works, so good job (for a manure hauler).
Yep, didn't think of that.
And apply heat to the back first / as well
As a tech that does this kind of thing every day for a living, you did a bang up job for the first time!
Thanks.
I love how Dave gives excuses for owning an Apple product.
I feel dirty.
@@EEVblog we need "right to repair legislation" provision of spares and schematics.
@@isoguy. Why don't we push for it?
Look at the ACCC's attitude towards aftermarket car parts. If installed correctly theyon't void warranty! Why shouldn't this apply to electronics?
@@transkryption Agree, the UK Goverment believed that people would put off repairing their veichicles if parts cost too much. Convincing the Government that an un-repaired phone or laptop may become dangerous will be interesting.
@@isoguy. I was referring to the Australian Government's Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC)
I was really hoping you'd peel off the screen protector at the end
It has really bugged me since Watching this that he didn't :D
Very deliberate, to trigger people :-P
@@EEVblog consider me triggered! haha
That'd be a paid content
Anyone else leave the installation screen protector on for the customer to rip off to give them the satisfaction lol.
Help for newbies to this:
Use a heated mat, it warms the whole pad making it very easy.
Use a little isopropyl alcohol, it really helps loosen the glue.
As others have suggested, cover the whole screen with parcel tape.
When you get hold of a piece of double sided tape sticking it down you should gently pull it, makes the job easier.
As Dave said, always resin down the home button plate or it’ll come loose.
Use 3m fabric tape and don’t trust the adhesive that comes with the digitiser.
Make sure the iPad is switched off when you plug in the lcd or you will blow the backlight.
Hope this helps a few people, I’ve probably missed a couple of things but there are so many things.
I was thinking, doesn't he have a reflow oven to heat it overall?
Ken Mason it is but it’s also harmful to plastic and can cause things inside the iPad to melt.
Ken Mason it’s a shame there are so many cowboys doing it now with no sense of QC. I only do micro soldering myself but work with plenty of uk shops with good ethics, you’d be surprised how they can charge a fair price for a quality service. I’ll try the tesa tape and see how it compares to my usual 3M 👍
Dave, you say that this isn't your day job but actually that makes it better for someone else who is trying to do this for the first time. When you see videos of this being done they tend to use specialist equipment and gloss over things that they take for granted. I have one to repair for my granddaughter and have a heat gun so knowing the settings you used will help me. Thanks for sharing
20:23 "focus you bastard"
Very nice first time repair Dave, well done!!! 10/10
I used to have a fly-by-night business repairing ipads and phones. You have managed to hit all the the snags that caused me to close up shop... minus the low paying, price haggling pricks that are texting you every half hour "is my device coming along ok??"
@Ken Mason I never was able to manage customers that way, I was too nice, let them walk on me. Wish someone had bought me a sammich... or just been a little appreciative of me picking up and delivering devices for no extra charge.
Louis Rossman chewed the tip of his tongue off watching this! 😀
Why? He personally doesn't work on apple mobile products.
@@xenonram Jessa did then
Thanks. I have to replace my battery, this was useful to see where i’m going...
Good on you Dave. And a big thumbs up.
I like the fact that you did this for the first time as others will try to attempt as well. You really show that it can be done by a novice that does not have a lot of experience replacing these panels.
I did one of those for a friend a couple of years ago and had the same experience; 3 hours cleaning glass shards stuck to adhesive out with isopropyl and Q-tips under a microscope, then 10 minutes to put it back together again.
Nice job! I did a similar thing to iphone 6S, but with LCD already glued to touch screen. The button bracket was screwed to screen, so it holds better, but the glue on button membrane had worn out and does not feel the same anymore. I would have cleaned the LCD better as I can see debris in video. Anyway great job, one more piece of usable tech saved from dumpster and back to good use.
I hate trying to reconnect flat flex cables, they always give me problems. Pretty bang up job for your first try!
Nice first repair!
The tape on glass tip is actually very useful as others pointed out
Not a big deal but I would avoid working in devices that are fully charged, you never know
And lastly I do not recommend buying a screen with a home button pre-installed as you will loose the TouchID functionality. The little chip next to the button is cryptographically tied to your motherboard, hence the need to transfer it in order to keep the biometrics working.
Useful info. Thanks.
Dave fixed something hooray!
Wow, that brought back some painful memories of my first tablet screen replacement attempt...
Nice video though and congratulations on your success!
Well that was faster and more painless than my attempts at a glass only repair on an Experia Z... The short n' curly of it is that it didn't end well and we ended up just throwing in a new screen kit instead
This is a useful video, Dave. I've got a locked iPad lying around, that I need to salvage the lcd and digitizer from, to replace my daughters cracked iPad, and this was a great help.
I don't have a heat gun, though, but I assume a hair dryer will do the trick.
Nice repair video 👍 I like it
You tested the rear camera, not the front one, open the app again and tap the camera swap button, it’s probably fine though
Maybe possible to have the heat gun held in place with some kind of stand or tripod? That would leave you with both hand to rotate the iPad, and using the pick to remove the screen.
This couldn't have come at a better time :)
I love watching videos of first time people do this kind of thing. Why? Because when I go to do it. Its going to be my first time at some point too, so I’ll likely make the same/similar mistakes.
Everyone knows the Crocodile Dundee knife is the proper tool for removing these screens
And as always, I hoped you learned something.
Oh wait, wrong channel! :D
plzbro reflow
The bigger the blob...
S. The better the job!
Nice job. You should try another one.
Need to apply more heat Dave.
Also, the temperature isn't right.
Airflow isn't right either.
Nozzle is on the small side.
What are you thinking, jeeeeez
Sorry, I had to. lol
Hahaha, where have I heard this before...
lol, there's a sticker inside my van, goes something like:
Hourly rates: Normal - $90/hr. If you've attempted it - $120/hr. If your mate's attempted it - $150/hr. Look over my shoulder for the entire job - $270/hr
Exc GST.
For comments just like yours, except I know you're joking. I assume you're in one form of the service industry or another?
@@Jimmeh_B We had one that said, "Fee if you want to "help": $65/hr."
@@Jimmeh_B
Yep, been in the service industry all my adult life!
@@rossrobotics6342 figures :)
We all have similar senses of humour!
The suction cup is used to lift enough to slide a pick in.
With cracks and the suction cup, you will need to put some wide tape for the cup to stick to.
My S7 Edge just requires 10 seconds of heat with my hot air gun.
I heated the piss out of my s7, and I couldn't get the screen off without damaging it. WAY longer than 10 seconds. I used a heat gun and not a hair dryer or hot pads. There's no way you could even heat soak the glass, all the way around the phone, in 10 seconds.
@@xenonram Mine goes to 550c and I used a direction funnel. 10 seconds of heat is enough to soften to adhesive and I never broke the screen.
You did just fine.
It pay to be cautious when you’re unsure of how it’s done I feel. Better to add more heat gradually than melt something with too much heat at the beginning.
Good job Dave. Anyone can do them :)
When trying to do that with my iPad mini I managed to damage the LCD to the point of it being gonski, so be careful!
I'm positive you left some bits of yellow looking dust/small things under the glass in the centre, my CDO is well and truly triggered now.
Had some success with a (2500w) flatiron, just heat it up a few seconds and turn it upside down (and put it in a vice or something else to hold). Put mobile phone or tablet on it and let it sit for a while. For better heat spreading, move it around on the iron. You can also attach a flat metal plate to the flatiron (upside down) to increase the heat surface (easier when service tablets) however needs a longer time to heat up. After a while take off the device (wear gloves when doing this!) and I was able to rip it off in one go! Very easy.
dave, it looks like you enclosed a big speck of dust or something the first time you put the "lid" on. ;)
Speaking of screen, any news from the µsupply custom LCD ?
I would setup a stand that keeps the heat going while i'm prying
Nice job , that home buttons are a pain
not quite content low. its a kind content we havent seen you do alot. it will be interesting to see your take and comments on it.
All good - I would have used more spudgers when taking off the screen. And also a more thourough cleansing of the screen.
Great job though!
Nice Rossmann move
I brought a damaged gen 3 ipad a while back and then did this wondering if I could refurbish and it was enough that I never wanted to do it again.
Good enough for Australia. If this TH-cam content creator thing doesn’t work out for you it’s good to know you have options :)
Test the front camera too
Forgot that, but yeah it works.
I'd have tried taping the screen to hold the glass together.
A nice tip for the fractured bit when removing - stick kapton tape over those sections and all the little bits will stay kind of stuck in there! Great job though - always interesting to see any repairs of any kind on your channel!
Wonder if applying scotch/capton tape on the shattered glass would have helped with the removal of small broken pieces?
Likely.
Can't believe you'd even compare yourself to Louis without first submerging the entire thing into flux.
You mean flux.
@@EEVblog Clearly; derp.
seems not too difficult, but did you clean the actual LCD? I thought i saw some splinters/shards of glass on there, how did you do that, is there a protective coating on that fragile stuff? Keep up the good work, thumbs up from me :)
Yes I did.
in my country they use a thin metal wire to separate the glass from the lcd.........they slide the wire between the lcd and the touch glass and pull the wire hard !!!!!! and it takes them litterly 10 seconds
You are better of using the original button because using an unpaired one will mean loosening Touch ID because apple paired the button to the motherboard for “security” reasons
just seeing the thumbnail for this brought me agita. my son did his in i think fours times now. did every one and every time it is a super pain.
I have done the same repair and I never want to do it again. (Un)fortunately newer iPads have the digitizer glass and LCD permanently bonded so if you break one you have to replace both. More expensive but there is far less that can go wrong. You're also very lucky that dented corner (which is what broke the glass in the first place) didn't crack the replacement glass.
EDIT: Apparently the newer cheaper iPads are still separate glass and panel. I fixed an iPad Air and gave it away, the Air 2 that replaced it has a bonded screen.
Well done sir!!!
Ive done several iphone screen replacements for my nieces, not fun would be an under statement!!! ;-)
Tip: Save old credit cards and gift cards. They can be cut up and used as prying tools. They come in many different thicknesses too. I even cut them into the shape of collar-stays, to keep my collars laying flat. I cut them into strips to mix 2-part epoxy too. (I lose all the metal ones you can buy.)
Jessa from iPad Rehab will let you open the Aussie franchise now that you've become an expert at replacing iPad screens ;)
You forgot to fold over the part of the touch ribbon-cable that has the tesa-strip on it. That's why it was hard pushing the glas back in.
Also I always recommend to use some sort of spacer between the home button and the backcover to prevent it from being pushed into the device (adhesive of the home button can come loose).
Other than that, I see no major faults. :)
I am doing these repairs to pay for University btw. :D
See my pinned update comment, I had to open again and epoxy the switch backing plate to the front panel, stupid design.
@@EEVblog Indeed. I hope the new Surface from Microsoft shows the world that a Tablet can be high quality and also repairable :)
@@SaabFAN86 The surface is, and always has been glued together just like this iPad. The new surface x and 7 are ARM based, and are not going to be actual PCs anymore, but will be more of a tablet.
Had to replace the screen on my galaxy s8. Forgot to test everything before gluing it all back up. Now it's a bit loose in places and the selfie cam is constantly blurry :( ah well.
+1 on kids and delicate electronics.
Nice vídeo hello From spain
I uploaded it less than a minute ago, you haven't even watched it. It could be shit...
Can you and Louis Rossmann do a teleconference thing where you discuss electronics? I think this could be very interesting
When is the Dave's I phone repair franchise opening LOL
0:58 it's upside down, Dave ... all the emails are gonna fall out...
It's ok, he's in Australia.
Not sure with the iPads, but the home buttons are generally tied to a chip on the motherboard. So any replacement button, even a genuine Apple part, will not work with Touch ID (fingerprint unlock)
Wow, really?
@@EEVblog yes, with every apple product because they say its for 'security'. Every other brand like Samsung or Huawei you can just swap the home buttons with full functionality.
2018 Rossman discussing error 53 (Apple bricks iPhone with non paired button after software update (error later patched)): th-cam.com/video/cDYeby1Vanw/w-d-xo.html
(There are other / newer video options)
EEVblog Yep, its really annoying!! on iPhones 7 and above, there is no physical button because it uses force sensors. if you replace the button you cant even click it!!!
My iphone 5S battery is going to die some time and I was wondering if I should take it apart, but I don't have hot air equipment. The only other thing I could think of is getting like a big power bank thing and a long cable, and running it from my pocket.
You can get any corner phone repair shop to replace the 5S battery for you for like $30-$40
The 5s screen isn't glued on like the new phones. You just need a suction cup.
Thanks for all the info. I think it is actually a 5C and I messed that up. I think it was the cheaper one.
Hi Dave, man that really sucks. For around $20 you could've bought an armour type case for it. Then the kids can throw it all they like.
I know because my 6 year old is a ruffian with my Air 2 and if it weren't for the case, I would've had to do several repairs..
y'know, my iPad 1st gen had a wall collapse on it, and still works perfectly. It's just useless because no apps support it anymore. Still gets pretty decent battery time, too.
With everything apart I’d have recommended replacing the batteries. That would give it like-new capacity and you wouldn’t have to do all this all over again when the original batteries start to go bad.
You definitely don’t want glass shards getting around when you go barefoot in the lab all the time!
14:55 - Dave channels the spirit of MyMateVINCE
I don't think anyone was screaming at you, Dave. The screams are reserved for Apple. Every iteration, they challenge themselves to design a product that a) the user is more likely to break (glass to the edges, slippery as possible, etc) and, b) is more difficult to repair than the last. You have got to have a case and screen protector on every iPhone and iPad.
LOL you tested the rear facing camera but not the front facing..
Ok.... I was looking to see who commented first on that blunder. LOL
He did test the front facing too. There is his selfie on the thumbnail near the shutter button ))))
Oops. Wrong. Watched it again. Think, that is a Seguns selfie )))
@@dopeless Smegma selfie???? Yuck, gross.
Maybe buy a protective case ? i have used one for years and never destroyed an ipad even by dropping it on concrete multiple times .
I might have fallen asleep somewhere near the end, did he "bang out" the aluminum frame where it was dented in? It seems like it would have been a good idea.
Feeler gauges are a cheap source for metal spudgers, 2-3 bucks and you get a bunch of them of various thickness. Count your blessings that the glass wasn't glued to the screen, that is a pain to do.
There’s kiosks at the mall that fix these while you have an Orange Julius.
i can't think of another video where you opened something and didn't go over the circuits. Seeing you pull apart a current apple product and walk through would have given me great delight. Bummer,
First, he wasn't very far into the device, and second, the phone circuits are way too small and complicated. Also he's not familiar with them. Watch Rossmann if you want to see detailed apple circuit breakdowns.
You tested the front-facing camera, instead of the camera you re-connected! :-)
ive had to change the screen on my daughters kids (grandkids0 at least 4 times now....good job its easy..lol
Should have gotten her the Amazon Fire kids tablet. First screen repair is free and $70 after that.
It's real hard to get you fingers noticeably cut with gorilla glass. The cuts you do get, heal in an hour or two
Dave did you notice that you tested the back camera, which was nowhere near to being disassembled, while not testing the front facing camera which had all that sticky tape and heat around it? ;)
I was expecting a "and we're in like Flynn" with some bleeding fingers
You should have got Paul Daniels to repair it - He is in Townsville, Australia.
Only 3000 odd kilometres, there’s a repair shop in every shopping centre.
@@mark0la Exactly ! I was always saying that Australia has wrong measuring units for distance.
For Australia you take a distance in days (to travel) not in kilometres, it's easier :)
In my head: **In Louis Rossmann voice** Paul Daniel's software...
You'll like Paul Daniels' repair service. Not a lot, but you'll like it.
Nenad Kralj Yep, 3 day drive if you’re sensible.
First fan out here!
maybe putting some tape over the cracked part would have let you pull up on the intact side and pull the smaller pieces off in one piece.
my kids call those frisbees
EEV: "focus you bastard!"
AvE" that's not how you say that"
And you kept all the dust particles out!
Get them an otter box for it I’ve dropped mine many times still looks like new underneath
Otterboxxen for the win.
Congrats! Now you will be able to replace a car windshield (wind screen).
You should see how those iPad mini 4‘s come apart!!!!! Complete nightmares
Guitar Pick for iPad repair...
Well, i was just thinking why you were so devoted to remove the touch panel in one piece
I would have sent that to Jessa at iPad Rehab and let her do the work, The button has a fingerprint scanner and has either a DES or AES crypto chip.
@EEVBlog What's your take on that darned T2 chippy that Apple are whacking into their current fruitery. Any ideas how we can get around it?
No STS here...!
Shame about all the dust between the glass and LCD...