@@silva81 That's not very optimal because you need to play at least 5 copies of 3 mana do nothing AND draw them as well, also 4 mana for catalogue and imperfectionist...
I made a Caitlyn Watery Grave deck, to mix results but still a ton of fun. Flash bombs go on top, watery grave takes out the bottom, plus you got the flash bomb and draw package to work with.
I played an insider knowledge Caitlyn version of this instead of deep just a few minutes ago lol. And the win rate was actually pretty good as well. I see potential in watery deep.
Janna Norra is amazing deck idea. If you haven't tried it yet please do. It's more the new landmark, The Sunken Temple, than Janna and more Mr. Thrift than Norra but they are the champs so it's what I would see people calling it if it was an actual deck. It's like the Norra Swindler deck but instead of milling you basically just add cards to your deck non stop. It's not op by many means cause you can low roll and not get any Mr thrifts or your opponent is playing control and removes every single one of them. Why I also run 3 evil k's to print things cause you can need more than 3 of something more often than not and worst case you just print the new bursting backpack. Basically you get a thrift down a portal or 2 then you landmark and basically it become round start fill your hand after a few turns 3 if you only have a thrift down and 1-2 portals in deck before you landmark. it's normally like turn 7-8 i can do that unless i completely brick even with all the draw. you will burn a lot of cards cause you draw so many portals but the main way to prevent that is just playing every thing you can (use all the portal units at least) every turn cause 3 cards in hand will quickly become a full one next round start lol. Also you never loose out on portal units because they just get put back into the deck before they are discarded which is nice. You can add infinite cards to your deck with this but good luck not drawing as many as you add lol. For like how are you meant to win it tends to be one of 3 things. 1, Opp FF's which is the most common. 2, You kill them with shrooms. 3, You kill them with a wide board/elusives. And a very rare but in theory is possible you play big unit with big stats and have a never ending supply so you win that way. But with Volibear you have basically zero chance of that happening in that matchup. Also another rare one is you end up nuking them with flash bombs which is funny but not likely to win the game for you. My version 100% isn't the best and needs some more removal as I don't think 3 Howling Gales and 3 Poison Darts is enough but IDK what would be better other than just Mystic Shot. A more optimised version would probs run less printing and draw and more removal but that's less fun for me. My version's deck code: CQDACBIKUQAQCBIEBIAQMBBKAEDQUFADAYFA6EIVAQEAIAICBAEQEAIHBIJACCAKAUBQCBQKEAAQOCQPAEEAMHA (I hope I didn't post this too late after this video went live. I wanted to play with the deck more before recommending it. Also I hope I see something like this in a video cause it would be great content IMO.)
Thank you for showing some light to Maokai ! I personally think he’s a big sleeper champion right now especially with the edition of Watery Grave further helping his win condition . A deck i’ve been using a lot is Maokai / Evelynn
I swear watery grave puts karma sett shadow isles back on the map seems really easy to just build the entire deck to not die and put 2x watery grave in as a wincon to double with karma and run your opponent out of gas
Have you tried Mr. Thrift + Sunken Temple? The portals in hand help level Janna. You don't mill yourself thanks to Mr. Thrift and excess portals in hand get shuffled into the deck. I've been running Teemo, Norra, Janna, and Mr. Thrift of course. A couple of Corinas, and Bursting Backpacks or whatever for a puffcap win condition as well.
Speaking of decks you weren't expecting janna is surprisingly a good pair with Diana I was doing PoC run with janna and got Diana the deck just felt right still refining the deck though all what I have to say is sunken temple is MVP
Given how janna and her package is a draw engine, I can see mill and teemo decks as pretty good anti meta picks. Also day 4 for asking for a Janna Vayne video
@@7thcolumn604 Mostly built around the fact that vayne has cost reduction in the form of the dog/her tumble. Parts made whole is a pretty good card as well, and the PNZ darkin has cost reduction, while the pnz cultist creates a free spell (which is really additional value attatched to a pretty good body).Not meta by any means, but it feels good to wall weenies while being faster than voli.
I have currently best times with Teemo deck _(pure puffcaps, no flashbombs)_ because of ton of draw from the opponent. 😀 I played against the mill deck and won because I waited with _backpacks_ in my hand to have no cards in my deck, then shuffle them over and over again. 🤣
Never poo poor Twitch Chat's ability to collectively make an amazing deck that at face value doesn't seem great. I'll never forget the Guardsman Bob stream where his chat built him an Alarm-O-Bot deck and he just spent the whole time climbing with it. It worked beautifully.
it would be hilarious if watery grave was fast speed, and you play it on top of your opponent casting a draw spell, so you fully mill their deck before their Glimpse Beyond resolves
As happy as I am that people are this interested in the game, I still can't wrap my head around the fact that even after 3 days of the expansion coming out, there are still server issues. For the love of god, I only want to grind them Path of Champions quests for the event pass to get the new cards, I don't want to restart the game 6 times every 30 minutes! "Small indie company" my butt!
Hi Snnuy, love your content, I'm not missing any of your videos. I don't know if you've tried any wildfire deck so far, and i've been spamming it for two days straight until i found a version that wins against voli and samira decks. It's funny that if Iascylla is on the field on turn 6, you need only 3 wilfires to deal 24 direct damage to the enemy nexus. No one expects to be OTK with 3 mana gems only. If you're interested to try it, i'll put the deck link just below. It'd be an honor !
hi! i've been working on a guide for a wildfire printer and i'm currently at 82% winrate in 12 games. it'll be on youtube fairly soon CEDQCBAEA4AQKBAMAEDAIKQBA4CASAIIAMFQGAIEAEOC2BIIAQAQMCAJCMAACAIIAMGA
@@silva81 thank you! Do you want the deck code? It's not really a good deck because you're only win condition are the Champions, in they kill Janna you just lose, but when it works it's really fun
You could get rid of the deep side, and lean in more towards defense or control. I mean I know thinning your deck out before printing them may let you have 12 of them on the bottom of your deck but, idk if the Maokai/Deep is really helping it. I guess you have possibility the dream play of, level Maokai + watery grave.
Thing is thinning the deck out before shuffling copies of watery grave in is what makes the deck consistent. There were occasional misplays from snnuy in this video, like there was one time he could have obliterated his sea scarab at the perfect moment but didn't
Snnuy I love you man but every time I fight against this deck I want to peel the skin of my opponent because of how horribly annoying it is to lose to it
No idea how Waterly grave made it into the live game, card is broken and cancer af (lot of ppl already abusing it since day 1...). Cant wait to see it nerfed into something like "enemy throws 3" or so. It really feels like the balance team of this game dont understand you can combine 2 regions while building decks and release cards as if you could not...
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Chat adds a card to the deck? Lets put the zaun diva wich has never seen any play. They truly love their streamer
I played against a Norra Maokai version of this and boy howdy was it PAINFUL. I fear the day someone finds an optimal decklist for this abomination
Is that very optimal?
@@silva81 That's not very optimal because you need to play at least 5 copies of 3 mana do nothing AND draw them as well, also 4 mana for catalogue and imperfectionist...
@@JanTft I changed my comment your reply will match the context better
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I made a Caitlyn Watery Grave deck, to mix results but still a ton of fun. Flash bombs go on top, watery grave takes out the bottom, plus you got the flash bomb and draw package to work with.
I played an insider knowledge Caitlyn version of this instead of deep just a few minutes ago lol.
And the win rate was actually pretty good as well. I see potential in watery deep.
Janna Norra is amazing deck idea. If you haven't tried it yet please do. It's more the new landmark, The Sunken Temple, than Janna and more Mr. Thrift than Norra but they are the champs so it's what I would see people calling it if it was an actual deck. It's like the Norra Swindler deck but instead of milling you basically just add cards to your deck non stop. It's not op by many means cause you can low roll and not get any Mr thrifts or your opponent is playing control and removes every single one of them. Why I also run 3 evil k's to print things cause you can need more than 3 of something more often than not and worst case you just print the new bursting backpack. Basically you get a thrift down a portal or 2 then you landmark and basically it become round start fill your hand after a few turns 3 if you only have a thrift down and 1-2 portals in deck before you landmark. it's normally like turn 7-8 i can do that unless i completely brick even with all the draw. you will burn a lot of cards cause you draw so many portals but the main way to prevent that is just playing every thing you can (use all the portal units at least) every turn cause 3 cards in hand will quickly become a full one next round start lol. Also you never loose out on portal units because they just get put back into the deck before they are discarded which is nice. You can add infinite cards to your deck with this but good luck not drawing as many as you add lol. For like how are you meant to win it tends to be one of 3 things. 1, Opp FF's which is the most common. 2, You kill them with shrooms. 3, You kill them with a wide board/elusives. And a very rare but in theory is possible you play big unit with big stats and have a never ending supply so you win that way. But with Volibear you have basically zero chance of that happening in that matchup. Also another rare one is you end up nuking them with flash bombs which is funny but not likely to win the game for you.
My version 100% isn't the best and needs some more removal as I don't think 3 Howling Gales and 3 Poison Darts is enough but IDK what would be better other than just Mystic Shot. A more optimised version would probs run less printing and draw and more removal but that's less fun for me.
My version's deck code:
CQDACBIKUQAQCBIEBIAQMBBKAEDQUFADAYFA6EIVAQEAIAICBAEQEAIHBIJACCAKAUBQCBQKEAAQOCQPAEEAMHA
(I hope I didn't post this too late after this video went live. I wanted to play with the deck more before recommending it. Also I hope I see something like this in a video cause it would be great content IMO.)
31:00 ok guys he did this to himself, let's force him to play Kennen/Ezreal
Thank you for showing some light to Maokai ! I personally think he’s a big sleeper champion right now especially with the edition of Watery Grave further helping his win condition . A deck i’ve been using a lot is Maokai / Evelynn
Deck code on description imports Leona/Kayle into the game
I swear watery grave puts karma sett shadow isles back on the map seems really easy to just build the entire deck to not die and put 2x watery grave in as a wincon to double with karma and run your opponent out of gas
This is what I call asserting total dominance ! nice video as usual ;)
Have you tried Mr. Thrift + Sunken Temple? The portals in hand help level Janna. You don't mill yourself thanks to Mr. Thrift and excess portals in hand get shuffled into the deck. I've been running Teemo, Norra, Janna, and Mr. Thrift of course. A couple of Corinas, and Bursting Backpacks or whatever for a puffcap win condition as well.
I was so happy when I suggested Most Wanted and it clutched a win, knew itd be in the video
Speaking of decks you weren't expecting janna is surprisingly a good pair with Diana I was doing PoC run with janna and got Diana the deck just felt right still refining the deck though all what I have to say is sunken temple is MVP
Given how janna and her package is a draw engine, I can see mill and teemo decks as pretty good anti meta picks. Also day 4 for asking for a Janna Vayne video
what's the idea behind janna vayne?
What does janna vayne do?
We’ll need to see what the meta is once it actually settles, but it’s definitely a possible option
Vayne packgae can help janna level-up with discounted tumbles and the faithful dog. Is it worth it though..
@@7thcolumn604 Mostly built around the fact that vayne has cost reduction in the form of the dog/her tumble. Parts made whole is a pretty good card as well, and the PNZ darkin has cost reduction, while the pnz cultist creates a free spell (which is really additional value attatched to a pretty good body).Not meta by any means, but it feels good to wall weenies while being faster than voli.
I have currently best times with Teemo deck _(pure puffcaps, no flashbombs)_ because of ton of draw from the opponent. 😀
I played against the mill deck and won because I waited with _backpacks_ in my hand to have no cards in my deck, then shuffle them over and over again. 🤣
This is triggering repressed memories of my friend playing Mill Druid against my Handlock deck back when we still played Hearthstone.
The horror...
Never poo poor Twitch Chat's ability to collectively make an amazing deck that at face value doesn't seem great.
I'll never forget the Guardsman Bob stream where his chat built him an Alarm-O-Bot deck and he just spent the whole time climbing with it. It worked beautifully.
it would be hilarious if watery grave was fast speed, and you play it on top of your opponent casting a draw spell, so you fully mill their deck before their Glimpse Beyond resolves
Great deck, Sad about the slime murder though, Also wish I could find the song at the end of your video it’s a very nice song!
Second game felt so dirty holy moly
17:51 what a chad
Chime slime? Evil? You are off your rocker brother
If Sunny could have played a card that uninstalled the first opponent's game, he would have.
As happy as I am that people are this interested in the game, I still can't wrap my head around the fact that even after 3 days of the expansion coming out, there are still server issues. For the love of god, I only want to grind them Path of Champions quests for the event pass to get the new cards, I don't want to restart the game 6 times every 30 minutes! "Small indie company" my butt!
Hi Snnuy, love your content, I'm not missing any of your videos. I don't know if you've tried any wildfire deck so far, and i've been spamming it for two days straight until i found a version that wins against voli and samira decks.
It's funny that if Iascylla is on the field on turn 6, you need only 3 wilfires to deal 24 direct damage to the enemy nexus. No one expects to be OTK with 3 mana gems only. If you're interested to try it, i'll put the deck link just below. It'd be an honor !
CEDQCBIEDEAQMBBOAEDQICIBBABQWAIIAQDAEAIEFU2AGBAEAQDRABABAQCAYAIGAQLACCAEBABACBABFYAA
hi! i've been working on a guide for a wildfire printer and i'm currently at 82% winrate in 12 games. it'll be on youtube fairly soon
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@@Snnuy Thanks a lot ! cheers
I'm the opponet in game 3, it was so fun playing against snnuy, ggs!
Nice master yi deck lol
@@silva81 thank you! Do you want the deck code?
It's not really a good deck because you're only win condition are the Champions, in they kill Janna you just lose, but when it works it's really fun
@@zev6459 no, thanks
@@zev6459can i have it? it's really cool ngl
@@schrodinger_neko sure here you go!
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Sorry not updated with the standard cards but can we request to have it noted always in caption if standard or eternal? Sorry avid fan follower here
from now on I'll have it in the first line of the description of the video
Made some changes and the deck works as intended... I only have to stop tossing Watery Grave x6 every game... would be awesome.
You could get rid of the deep side, and lean in more towards defense or control. I mean I know thinning your deck out before printing them may let you have 12 of them on the bottom of your deck but, idk if the Maokai/Deep is really helping it. I guess you have possibility the dream play of, level Maokai + watery grave.
Thing is thinning the deck out before shuffling copies of watery grave in is what makes the deck consistent. There were occasional misplays from snnuy in this video, like there was one time he could have obliterated his sea scarab at the perfect moment but didn't
Snnuy I love you man but every time I fight against this deck I want to peel the skin of my opponent because of how horribly annoying it is to lose to it
Think Makaoi can flip on 5, so turn 5-6 wins should be there
Hello, can u do a deck with Norah and Janna ? :)
Norra*
Why did that opponent with she who wonders kill themselves wasn’t it their attack token
No, it was snnuys attack token, turn would have to pass to the opponent and they would lose before they get to attack.
@@sirensoulegaming4158 whoops I thought it was opponent attack turn
Ok this idea might be bad but i had an idea for Poro plus kaisa. Pls lemme kno if its any good since ive never really built a deck lov ur contebt.
Snnuy bullying first day peepos using justice riders. TELL THE PEEPO WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN TODAY!
Temple and university of piltover when?
When was the 12 hour stream?
4:39 Why was the Watery Grave destroyed?
less goo love the chimeslime
Deep players probably hoping this deck becomes good
What's the point in printing Deep Sea Grave if you just need 1 for the Maokai lvl anyways?
That second game 😂
Wait can Toss never mill champions? I didn't know that.
Day 4 of asking for an Udyr Volibear deck for all the ursine conaisseurs out there
why lee board ?
i want more PoC content plsss not just once a week
Hey guys i need help since the latest patch i always get the errorcode 100200 can anyone pls tell me how to fix this?
it's due to the very high player count right now, riot has been trying to fix it for multiple days but nothing seems to do the trick so far... :/
@@Snnuy thank u buddy :D
Does sunken triger malki
Muito bom kkk
No idea how Waterly grave made it into the live game, card is broken and cancer af (lot of ppl already abusing it since day 1...). Cant wait to see it nerfed into something like "enemy throws 3" or so. It really feels like the balance team of this game dont understand you can combine 2 regions while building decks and release cards as if you could not...
Why is Snnuy flaming my name? T~T
No se siente bien jugar ese mázo y menos para el oponente, espero pronto un nerf a esa carta de aniquilación.
Actual sociopath
imho that's just another toxic deck to deal with... defensive decks who aims just to destroy deck i just hope it won't be consistent/competitive...
8 card mill is a bit too much for 3 cost tho
its 6
that's the point of the jannas and the evil kays
Snnuy out here cursing my games 😢 why Snnuy whyyy
what did i do 🥲
@@Snnuyyou released a new maokai on me 😭
@@SnnuyI still luv you tho Snnuy I know you do it out of love 🥹
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