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My Heritage and Ancestry gave me two pretty different ethnicity results 😕 and being adopted I don’t know which one is correct. However I liked what came up on My Heritages more LOL AND I found a sister on their site who was also adopted! Neither one of us knew about each other 😮 this was 3 years ago, we keep in contact regular. She was even at my wedding ❤️
that's sooo cool, i'm adopted too - i only did it on myheritage and got 4 dna matches... but 3 had 0,1% and 1 had 0.2% i'm curious to know what 16,5% north african and 16'3% middle eastern is... I transfered to dnaland but that said "35% egyptian arab" but that's still to vague for me
It's tough to decide which one is correct. Both companies use different reference populations that they are comparing your DNA test to. My wife's results are different on each platform. She's not an anomaly. Thus, we don't advocate taking DNA tests for ethnicity research. Instead, take DNA tests to build your genetic family tree through finding names and using genetic genealogy techniques.
Nihilsea... the websites are comparing to different reference populations. There is no site that's better in determining ethnicity results than another, although they will profess that they are better. Take ethnicity results with a grain of salt. Instead, build a genetic genealogy tree. Now, I recognize you're adopted, but it can be possible. Check out this playlist th-cam.com/play/PLcVx-GSCjcdk1GsAs9NfLWKvACcjE3Afg.html
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics ok I have a question If one of my Ethnicity Estimates is 0% how do I have genetic group results show up if I don't have no % given but yet I have genetic groups showing I don't get it and do these genetic groups mean I'm related to them even tho it's 0% asking for my son cause he's said Ethiopian Jewish and How can you click of the surnames and places , states and countries listed to view it's information and history ? He says his dad's mom said he had Ethiopia Jewish but it said 0% but yet it still gave him genetic matches from Chicago and Ethiopia at very low and high pins percentages but he has no high or low frequency levels options that you mentioned ? Can you explain all this for us cause my heritage says when most of it is all mid levels it won't be viewed sometimes left us confessed more than anything? So basically why does he have 0% ethnicity estimate or DNA results but still have a genetic group labled from the same ethnic group that doesnt show up on myheritage?
I've found My Heritage to have the biggest difference in ethnicity estimates compared to Ancestry and 23andme. I attribute this to how they categorize their groups. They have very limited groups for non-Anglo countries and as their timeline is based on British colonization it doesn't seem to differentiate very well between Native American and Spanish colonization before 1600s. All the sites have an unfortunate lacking in samples from outside the US to properly group non-Anglo or very mixed populations like Latin America. Hopefully as more people test this will improve, but so far I've found Ancestry to have the greatest detail in matching my known tree.
It is true that England, Scotland, and Wales are well represented in reference population databases. Partly because not all counties allow commercial DNA testing. th-cam.com/video/_vsPS5KPrBI/w-d-xo.html
Agree. Not enough as a Latin American and I only got two genetic groups: Chileans in Chile (crazy ik who would have thought?) and Filipino (not true). As well as the fact that I don’t have Ashkenazi Jewish heritage, but since it is an Israeli company I’m sure that Jewish populations are their speciality. Sephardic Jewish, I cannot deny though neither can I confirm it. That would have been more accurate. The other dna percentages were probably accurate, it’s just not that specific.
The thing I like about the MyHeritage genetic groups is that it is the only one out of all of the companies I've taken a test with that identified my connection to the Netherlands and Indian Ocean Islands. I have a grandparent from Mauritius, and I get the French Settlers in Reunion genetic community on MH (more testers from Reunion than from Mauritius on MH but at least in the right area) a 2x great-grandparent from the Netherlands and I get North Holland also on MH. Neither 23andme or Ancestry assign any regions outside of the UK for me. In fact, my Ancestry DNA communities are sorely lacking, I only have 1 community which is Dorset & Somerset which is about 1/4 of my known ancestry, whereas on MH I have 7.
@ribsyrupss8778 my mum has the Asians in South Africa and Eastern China and Southeast Asia Communities as well as her English ones on Ancestry. She has Shona & Nguni Peoples, Madagascar, and Mainland China (Southern Provinces) on 23andme.
I share both Autosomal DNA from MyHeritage and Ancestry and transferred them to MyTrueAncestry, I’ve only shared MyHeritage to Gedmatch not yet shared ancestry to Gedmatch yet, but the ancient deep dives samples on MyTrueAncestry are missing Scythian 2.7% from ancestry where the MyHeritage autosomal DNA had in the ancient deep dives and Germanic ones added into the percentages 🤷♀️
I am trying to discover my maternal grandmother’s parents and ethnicity since she was adopted and we know virtually nothing of her background. That being said, I have had my DNA tested both by Ancestry and 23&Me to get a broader base of information. I have since learned that I can upload my DNA info to MyHeritage to tap into their databanks, which I fully intend to do. Hopefully, I will at last get the clues I need to find the answers I seek. Any suggestions?
Watch my series about researching when you have adoption in your family tree. th-cam.com/play/PLcVx-GSCjcdk1GsAs9NfLWKvACcjE3Afg.html Then ask more follow-up questions in those videos.
I didn't get assigned to any communities on ancestry, but when I uploaded my DNA to myheritage it showed: Flanders, limburg (Netherlands), a part of Germany and the Dominican Republic. this is very accurate and I didn't expect this from myheritage. My percentages are also pretty mixed up. Ancestry says that I have 6% Scottish ,20% English , 4% Iberian and no scandinavian but myheritage says I don't have any scottish and English. And it shows 20% Iberian and 5,4 scandinavian. I know that the germanic regions have similar dna/ migration background but it's very confusing.
It is very confusing because the companies do a poor job of explaining that the estimates are based on comparing our DNA to reference populations. The reference populations outside of the British Isles is VERY small. Thus, you will see wild swings in ethnicity groups between the companies. If the companies can recruit more people to their reference populations, perhaps the ethnicity results accuracy will increase.
I run the account for my mother's DNA, my DNA, my cousin's DNA and my children. The tree on Ancestry is the same for me, my mother and my sons. My mother is placed in a different genetic community than I am, or my children. I giggle when the people on the tree end up in the wrong genetic community because it's my DNA result. The same person will end up in their correct genetic community on my mother's DNA results. I think Ancestry has written a program that has strong racial categories as opposed to fully understanding the ethnic history of Americans. Our family is so mixed, Ancestry gets it "wrong" a lot.
1. Ethnicity and race are ambiguous words. Thus, I'm not surprised that the groups are different than what some would expect. 2. However, each person will have different combinations of ethnic inheritance, thus each member of the family will not have the same percentages. We have tested all of our children, all of my brothers, my wife's brother, and my parents. Our ethnicity percentages are not consistent. Thus, we only suggest the communities as hypothesis rather than facts. Use it as a potential clue to search for your fairly. Build your family tree based on as many records as possible and then connect that tree with other DNA matches and determine your heritage in that fashion.
I did both Ancestry and Myheritage. As a Black person, I am most impressed with Myheritage. The amount of family and hidden histories dealing with my family that was founded by that company without me doing the search has been amazing. They have dig so deep into my ancestry that that they found my ancestors half and adopted relatives. All I had to do is make a small family tree of me, my siblings, my parents and their parents for Myheritage to do the rest and was spot on. I now know more about my family in a one year time span of me having Myheritage than the five years I had AncestryDNA. That’s a major win for Myheritage. The DNA test side of is lacking on both sides.
Autosomal test and genetic communities are more my concern so I'd say from this myheritage wins I guess. Thank you for telling me your experience so I know the genetic communities are more commonly accurate. Thanks for the video!
I hope you'll eventually begin building out your genetic family tree. They will be more accurate. Based on your other comments, this might be difficult due to your African heritage. However, you might be surprised what you're able to find.
@@GanymedeXD Not true, Their spans of ethnicities is larger to compare and analyze. Ancestry's database is larger but severly lacks diversity. I even took MyHeritage, 23&me, Ancestry, CRI (awful) & Family Tree, all different results with Family Tree & CRI being worse. MyHeritage & 23 lined up with who my ancestors who were still living at the time. I even have a cousin who's of German decent who studies German/American genealogy with thousands in her family tree. MyHeritage, 23, & even CRI picked up a large chunk of my German, African and south Asian. These ancestors are RECENT. Ancestry just said I was English, Irish, only 1% German, & completely gotten rid of Italian. I was missing a chunk of dna & Ancestry lumped it with random African regions. Family tree just said I was Irish, nowhere else in Europe. Family Tree, CRI, & Ancestry are LAZY with ethnicity estimates😂
Good presentation. An aside: My only gripe with MyHeritage is with the Ethnicity estimate they gave me. They claim I'm 18% Balkan yet I have no relatives from the Balkans, even on their own website! All my relatives (on their own webside) who aren't Brit or German are up in Scandinavia (where I expected them to be) from our family trad. So I did the Ancestry the 23andMe tests to check these unexpected results. Well, both Ancestry and 23andMe put between 15 to 25% of my ancestry up in Scandinavia. Neither listed me as having any Balkan heritage. Makes me wonder about MyHeritage when they don't even take a gander at their own website to double check their "ethnicity" estimates. ;) I wonder how small and possibly uneven their worldwide DNA testing pool was/is?
If you have Scandinavian and Balkan that might mean you have Varangian Guard ancestors (Swedish Norsemen/Viking) They worked for the Byzantine Empire and were elite guards from an emperor. So that's where the Balkan comes from, if you have Balkan in your dna test doesn't mean you have ancestors who live in Balkan, it's based on DNA Matches, so it most definitely comes from the Varangians
The worldwide testing pool is small. The reference population outside of the British Isles is VERY small. Thus, all companies will be off unless more regions of the world increase their participation in the study. That also requires those in the reference population to have had no family migration for the last four generations. To learn more about reference populations, check out this video. th-cam.com/video/ScZtHuU78n4/w-d-xo.html
Hi, maybe I am too stupid, but I still can't really make sense of this. My MyHeritage ethnicity estimate has me as approxomately 38 % Scandinavian, 23 % East European, 21 % North- and West European and 18 % Balkan. Yet the three genetic groups listed additionally further down on the page are 1."England and Ireland", 2."Germany, France (Grand Est), Austria, Switzerland, Belgium and Netherlands" and 3. "Germany". Now these groups have only very few geographical overlaps with my Ethnicities. How can one make sense of this?
Thank you for the wonderful video. I do have a high confidence group on MH that is not related to my ethnicity. It's beginning to tell a fascinating story. I would like to see how you use it in a similar scenario. BTW, I just in the last couple weeks received a refinement on my groups at Ancestry. Now, instead of a large blob over Germany I have two groups that really accurately reflect my heritage.
I got 100% English on MyHeritage DNA which seems dubious considering I have European heritage and a non-english surname derived from that Swiss family line
Watch this video next and perhaps you'll understand why the results might be as they currently are. Blame Reference Populations if Your Ethnicity Results Are Wrong th-cam.com/video/ScZtHuU78n4/w-d-xo.html
I use both in conjunction with each other. The chromosomes browser, and triangulation on MH and the color coding on AncestryDNA and Thrulines Hints, helps support the paper trail I have. Remember that DNA doesn’t lie. Family trees may have unintentional errors.
@@jessikamoore5033 hints always help if you look for support documents. No support or triangulation support with others support keeps it a hint. I waited five years before getting triangulation support records.
im sorry this is on an old video but i was curious as to why my paternal half sister got czechia in communities and i got central/northeast poland. our grandfather is polish, his ancestors came from russian partitioned poland and slovakia/austria partitioned poland ?
Ancestry had my community in the USA, then changed it to Elbe-Weser (Germany), which makes more sense for moms side. Their history timelines are a waste for anyone who isn't American though. My dad was from the old East Prussia. It's like 100's of years of history doesn't exist in that region.
Thanks for your insight into areas outside the US. Have you sent Ancestry some feedback about East Prussia? I wonder if they would like some help in those areas.
Question about genetic groups vs ethnicity, which I’m surprised nobody is talking about (unless I’m being a bit dumb?)… so i have a circa 30% iberian but the genetic groups locates Yorkshire with high confidence. Iberian locations don’t come up on the genetic groups. So my questions is, how can you have such a high percentage for an ethnicity, without any genetic group recognition there?
I have ethnicity estimates from MyHeritage and 23andme. I also have a fairly complete family tree (63 of 64 4great grandparents, and 90 of 128 5 ggp). From records I am 75% Czech (Bohemian) and 25% Polish. 23andme gives me an estimate of 95% Eastern European and about 5% German, seems plausible and accurate. Myheritage records 26% Scottish, Irish, Welsh. Why such a huge difference between testing companies?
23&me has my grandma as only Italian and middle eastern w trace Greek and my father at half Italian/middle eastern, quarter Eastern European; 10% German and 3% Greek/balkan... meanwhile my heritage has them both at over 10% Irish Scottish Welsh and a trace ashkenazi Jewish. Seems to be out of nowhere but I’m receiving their ancestry results within the next month so we’ll see the comparison !
The could be explained that for Scottish, Irish, Wales, etc., the companies have a larger comparison population than the Bohemian and Polish groups. Thus, you might not share DNA with the individuals in the reference Bohemian and Polish reference population. If either company can increase the number of individuals who take a DNA test, have fully documented their Bohemian or Polish ancestors in the same location to their great-grandparents, then you will likely see your ethnicity percentages change.
To also clarify... the websites are different because they have different reference populations, but they both have the same 'small reference populations' problem for regions outside of the British Isles and some regions in Africa.
I believe Ancestry gets the DNA Traits results alot faster than they tell you. I say this bc last week, I had a DNA Trait result appear...I had just enough time to screenshot it...then it disappeared. And it still hasn't shown that it was tested. But the trait that they showed (briefly) was accurate. "Naps". Lol. I don't nap often, but always feel the need to around the same time every day. Pretty neat. I suspect that they prolong giving results in hopes that you'll sign up and pay that monthly fee. Which, was supposed to be a part of the package I bought.
You're able to build a small family tree with your DNA test. To access the DNA matching tools, more matches, and genealogical records, you need a membership
My genetic groups on MH are like Ancestry, primarily all in the US. I uploaded my Ancestry and 23 and Me. For the Ancestry, at low co fidence I get the UK and their descendants in the US but does not tell me where, and I get a US, Canada, New Zealand and Australia one with the 23 and Me. I don't know why. Well, my paternal grandma was half Italian. My 2nd GGF was from Slovenia amd his wife Zurich, Switzerland. None of them are in my communities for eithee company.
My mum has 0.8% mesoamerican,ihave 3.4%mesoamerican they very smalltraces,my mums haplogroup is t2a1b,did mesoamerican have haplogroup t,can you please explain,thankyou
So I was re watching the video and one of the things that I found that was different about communities is the size of the communities. Ancestry's are much more narrowed. For my kit on Ancestry the whole span is from just inside of New Jersy to just across the border into Illinois and from Kentucky to just into Michigan. And they all center in the area where my ancestors would have mingled. And because I know my tree it is where I would expect. On the other hand in My heritage one of my high confidence areas is from Maine to almost to the border of Colorado from Minnesota /Maine in the North (and part of Canada) down to Mississippi and Alabama. My other one is a small one from Ohio and PA. And even when I decrease confidence to moderate I had three more communites and two are just almost as big as the first one I mentioned and the 'small; one still covers five-six states in the mid-west. I am not certain how I feel about this. Obviously my American ancestors who have been on the continent for two to three centuries yes, we have been in at least half the country. So while there are more and they are accurate are they actually to general to be helpful? So while Ancestry has fewer they are more narrowed and more pinpoint so does it not matter that they don't have more general ones? So after reviewing my own kits I think that Ancestry having the few communites is actaully better. After all, having half of my seven communities just saying Mid West #x doesn't do much overall. This means I disagree with your first point going to MyHeritage. Now this could be my particular kit. As I have been looking through the different communities in each ethnicity and they have a lot of spefic even down to the state leve, I just don't qualify for any but one.
I found it funny that the Israeli company distinguish between Yemeni Jews, North African Jews, Ashkenazi Jews, Mizrahi Jews etc...while labelling many nations in the MENA region as West Asian, Middle Eastern and North African
It all has to do with reference populations. They probably have enough DNA from the different Jewish groups (which are ethnically distinct) to separate them out. However, if the number of samples from other groups isn't large, they can't effectively separate them out. th-cam.com/video/u8lMfGqSrwg/w-d-xo.html
Ancestry and MyHeritage both seem to have a problem with why certain groups migrated to America and pre-1700 is seriously lacking. Almost all of my immigrants had come to America before then. One was summering in New Hampshire by 1600 as a fishmonger yet because the land grant didn't happen until 1623 this group of working men is ignored, probably because they didn't bring women with them. They are the group who taught the Natives English so they were able to communicate with the Pilgrims when they arrived. I had over 20 who came on the Mayflower and the early ships which explains the very high percentage of English. All of my ancestors who were in America pre-1660 are called settlers "wanting a new start" blah blah blah. With over 25% Scottish ancestry dating to 1651-1652 and having researched these men I know they were definitely not "settlers" or seeking "a new start". Ancestry and My Heritage also have HUGE differences with my percentage. Almost 20% on one group. The map timeline also completely ignores pre-1700 immigrants so you can't go to individual profiles. Big fail for both companies pre-1700
@@mige3394 Look up Scottish Prisoners of War. They have a website and a facebook group. Do you know who your ancestors were? I have "met" several with one or two common ancestors from this time period and one who we have decided we are "multi-cousins" haha That happens when you have common 4th or 5th gg-grandparents a couple of times. The more I read the more I love history
@@mige3394 Ancestry with out doubt, my heritage doesn’t really specify Countries for me and clums up like for example Celtic instead country but it’s okay :) just saying ancestry is more specific.
Suppose my girlfriend is 97% - 99% White, just like most White Americans are. I wanna know how much of her Non-White DNA comes from these races: Black Negro, Jewish & Middle Eastern, Australian Aborigine, Melanesian. Which DNA companies should I get DNA kits from? Do I need more than 1 DNA company to do the tests? Thanks!
Actually, all of those races are under represented in DNA databases because so few of people who can prove their 4 grandparents are all from the same place have taken a DNA test. That's the requirement needed to be included in the databases. Until that increases, taking a DNA test to learn your ethnicity results is not likely to be accurate or beneficial. If you're trying to build your family tree using DNA matches, then you might come up with your heritage questions by researching your ancestors.
I think My Heritage has the edge and the site looks and works better. The app is very nice. I've started to make my family tree in Ancestry and switched to My Heritage because has more tools and is a more pleasent experience overall.
So I just looked at the other kits I have on My Heritage to see if it was just me. And all of them still seem to be widespread across the half of the country. Except for my late mother in law. Hers has no communites and that she is just from Poland; but her family has lived in Cuyahoga County, Ohio since the 1880's. I take that back, she has three commnities,they just all include Poland.
Ancestry is spot on with my family tree in Canada and USA and Asia. My heritage is more spot on With My European heritage. I linked to mid 1800 with ancestry when my ancesters came from Europe, and got more detailed results on my heritage prior to that when my family was in Europe. My step brother has father from germany and cousins in germany. Heritage did better job mapping my brothers German family for example from the stories my step father talk about it matches better. So if your family is mostly North american based or atleast asia Ancestry is better, my heritage seems more focused on Europe. so that right there seems to be the big difference. You might have to use both to get accurate results.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics My husband was born and raised in Canada, his results reflected the 3 grandparents who settled Newfoundland and Labrador back in the 18th Century. No sign of his English war bride grandmother other than her proportion of English DNA approx. I immigrated to Canada in my early 20's. The AncestryDNA story keeps telling me why people were leaving England, Scotland and Ireland (where my ancestors came from) at all of the periods I can find my ancestors in these places. That AncestryDNA harps on about people were leaving the places my family stayed, makes the entire platform communicate that it isn't targeting Europeans. They don't actually give a shit about us as customers. These are North American stories of why their ancestors left, not European stories of why we stayed. Each time I see it, I'm annoyed again. My kids results don't reflect my husband's side from Newfoundland and Labrador. In fact, they give a lot less information than to our kids than they do us. They call our kids broadly northwest European mostly. Why is it so accurate and match so closely for me and my husband and become so confused one generation down?
@@runningfromabear8354 that is a lot of groups chooser mine I have 12 have had more than that I have less than @ancestry has 1400+ so about 50% less than what my heritage has and because of that I'm going to give the category is the time
@RunningFromABear First, your children will inherit different combinations of your DNA from you and your husband. That recombination will increase or decrease their biological ethnic heritage. This video explains genetic inheritance th-cam.com/video/-f7VUPmgy2U/w-d-xo.html. Second... Newfoundland and Labrador are locations with many immigrants. It won't show up as an ethnicity percentage, but rather the origin of those who settled the area. However, you should have some genetic groups if Ancestry has enough people within their database that have this heritage. It's possible that not enough people who have passed through those locations (or still remain) are in the Ancestry member trees or have taken DNA tests and attached their DNA to a tree with Newfoundland and Labrador on their branches. Thus, that will decrease your results because Ancestry doesn't have enough to go off of. Finally, I do see that some stories about why people stayed could be valuable in genetic history. I would recommend you send your feedback to Ancestry directly. Perhaps you can be the person to help make that change happen.
Both sites gave me different results, but you can’t take those percentages at face value. MyHeritage says I’m 40% Iberian - but that’s because I’m part of a subgroup of people from South Brazil. And if you use their timeline, you see that that subgroup had people spread all over Europe as you go back in time. So most of my German ancestry (which is most of it) fell into that Iberian group.
That's one way to compare the two sites. Have you started building your family tree using DNA matches? I hope so. th-cam.com/play/PLcVx-GSCjcdmsw25mbI-wJin_9_9QQUzI.html
A location is not necessarily an ethnicity, though. And that’s another way that so-called ethnicity results can be wrong. Also, ethnicity is NOT biological; it’s socio-cultural. Even though in English we talk about ethnicity being “in the blood,” it isn’t; certain traits may be inherited, but traits don’t define ethnicity, even if, for example, more people in Italy tend to have celiac disease than people in Morocco do. This is also due to random genetic recombination in every generation. Another complication: I’ve yet to see autosomal results from a company that say what time period they’re using to describe the results. Some ethnicity maps may describe genetic heritage that goes back 200-300 years; another, 500-700 years. For many individuals, that could change the map a lot. What happens if you want to go back, say, 1500 years? Oops, sorry, autosomal tests run out of gas by about 700 years back. If that. So 500 years ago, your ancestors may have come from Poland. But what if some of your *hundreds* of ancestors were among the Turks or Tatar people who invaded what’s now Poland in the medieval period? Are you Polish or Turkic? Finally: giving DNA companies the power to define who and *what* you are is a terrible idea. It gets into highly problematic moral and ethical questions about identity. Genetic testing wasn’t designed to reveal ethnicity. Don’t let some company tell you who you are.
I took both and the results are very different except for the Amerindian group. I found Ancestry is more specific, when it comes to the ethnic groups. For example I'm part of the Garifuna community and that has not pop up in MyHeritage at all. Now I'm wondering if I should take 23AndMe to see who is the accurate one.
ancestry said i was 40% russian, 40% german, 7% english, 2% swedish and 1% mongolian and jewish each. myherutge an the other side had completely different results - to the point where i was suddenly 13% spanish? this doesnt fit my family tree at ALL.
According to My Heritage, I am almost 70% Native American; according to Ancestry, just 52% Native American. Worse, 23andMe, says I am 51.6% European and just 47% Native American. Why such wide discrepancy? Could all be wrong?
@@ninpobudo3876 both have a disclaimer and state that ethnicity results are for entertainment and subject to change. So no, not wrong. Nor *wong* as you stated
@@naomiwilliams8850 not wrong but WONG! It's scary accurate. Ethnicities change and percentages. I don't watch percentages. Another thing one need to understand is HISTORY. Also, I do my family genealogy and these test are accurate
First, recognize that Native American doesn't mean US Native American. It typically means South and Central America Indigenous people. Second, the variance happens because each company has a different reference population to compare your DNA with. If they have different comparison populations, you will receive different results To learn more about reference populations, check out this video. th-cam.com/video/ScZtHuU78n4/w-d-xo.html
Neither and both. They are estimates and have different reference populations that they are comparing your DNA test to. My wife's results are different on each platform. She's not an anomaly. Thus, we don't advocate taking DNA tests for ethnicity research. Instead, take DNA tests to build your genetic family tree.
I have 1.5 percent Papua New Guinea. I uploaded my Genome into Family Tree and they found it. Ny Heritage found it. GEDMatch found it. But I tested with both Ancestry and 23andme and nothing.
Thus far, the accuracy is fairly comparable. The high confidence groups match what I suspect. Their lower confidence levels are things to investigate with skpeticism.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics im from Turkey and we got 2 genetic groups one is turkey/greece which was expected but confidence level is low, even tho they accurately guess my homecity. The second one is Swiss from Switzerland and we have no idea from where we got this. Btw, its confidence level is medium. I contacted MyHeritage to be sure about accuracy of this and they somehow said it can be French(northwest) listed under Swiss. Funny thing is, i have tons of matches from Scotland, Ireland, England and France for real yet, we have no idea how we got this. Do you think there can be a mistake?
Slowly Slow... the low confidence for your known heritage is likely because few people in the comparison populations are from Turkey/Greece. There are more people from Switzerland in the reference population and significantly more from the British Isles. Have you seen my video th-cam.com/video/PLoONLU01Dc/w-d-xo.html ? It goes further into the MyHeritage Genetic Groups.
The one thing i didnt like about my heritageDNA is how they combined vietnamese and chinese into one group. Yes they are very similar, but man we are still different. Why they hell are there so many subgroups for being jewish (i got like 2 different ones) but you can't be bothered to seperate vietnamese from Chinese. The only big issue i had really.
Hi. I got a surprising 18% of scandinavian ethnicity on Myheritage, relating to many scandinavian surnames/ distant relatives. Then I tested my parents on Ancestry and it showed zero Scandinavia, not relating to any of scandinavian surnames. How is that possible/ what went wrong? Thank you.
You and my wife have the same problem. On one company her German ethnicity shows up, on another it disappears and is replaced by Scandinavia. First, check out this video about why the different results happen. th-cam.com/video/mlAq-R1XCes/w-d-xo.html Second, ignore the ethnicity results and build your family tree using records th-cam.com/video/Fx2Tff-R-yI/w-d-xo.html and DNA matching. th-cam.com/play/PLcVx-GSCjcdmsw25mbI-wJin_9_9QQUzI.html
I didn't like where Ancestry gives bad hints of relatives and I also don't like when you pull a known document sometimes their suggested documents aren't for the same individual. Many people are linking to these, trusting ancestry, and it results in false information and hence bad hints.
Ancestry's computer hinting system requires human insight to improve. Many wrong hints deal with people of the same name. The computer program can't tell the different between the two similarly named individuals, so it asks you. As we interact with the hints, then the program can improve. HOWEVER, as you pointed out, there are member trees that have inaccurate information on them. This negatively impacts the hinting system. Some hints are "here's a record on a user tree for this same individual." Not every family tree is error free. (Don't let any one tell you that, no matter how long they've been researching. Devon and I have been researching for 30 years each and we make mistakes and find mistakes all the time.) In record search results, you will often see suggestions from the other side of the world. Ancestry (and similar platforms) cast a wide net until we filter the results. Who knows where our ancestors might go. Staring broad and narrowing down is usually best. Instead of being upset by incorrect record hints, just recognize that it's part of the process. Devon has two videos about record hints th-cam.com/video/Nn1j1Z3CsH4/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/BAbk5Jh0tKw/w-d-xo.html for further viewing.
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my results varied wildly between the two. 23&me said i am about 60% british and irish, 22% german and the rest were just straggler ethnicities, which basically checked out perfectly with my family tree. myheritage however said i am 0% british and irish, and actually 75% german and 25% swedish, which just seems soooo off. i have heard many ppl complain about how drastically different their results were, but i feel like mine just takes the cake. the thing is, i didn’t buy a new kit for myheritage, i just uploaded my raw dna results. could that tamper with the results at all?
Uploading to MyHeritage rather than taking a test isn't the reason. Both companies have different referance populations. My wife's DNA is different across every platform. And the new Ancestry 'parental split' DNA is even more confusing. So... build your family tree based on DNA matches and genealogy records and ignore the ethnic results. We'd all learn more about our heritage faster and more accurately that way if we would.
At this time, it's unlikely as the number of people in their reference population with that heritage is very small. The reference population outside of the British Isles is VERY small.
What's the best way to find out if your ancestry is related to lands, titles, or certain families of note? I have done 23 and Me but its more biological - I need to find information based on my name as I move backward in time. On my dad's mom's side, "Find a grave" has been very helpful. It went back to the 1700's. But its not telling me who any of these people were. My original 23 and Me was so much different than the second adjustment. I asked them about this and they say it adjusts depending on how many other people get their DNA checked. Does this make sense? Personally, I was happier with my initial check.
I would like to know that too since I come from a family of earls, I think my heritage is the best because you can access many papers and documents about your ancestors
The best way to find out your ancestry is to do paper-trail genealogical research. Build your family tree starting with yourself and documenting all of your ancestors (parents, grandparents, great-grandparents) and so forth. Be sure to includes aunts/uncles, and cousins so that you have a robust tree from which to connect your living DNA matches to your family tree. You'll want to become familiar with the records available for the time and place you're researching. Devon has two videos that might help with this. th-cam.com/video/a8-LTngSL6c/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/jIR6hatnyEE/w-d-xo.html. Once you have a paper trail genealogy research plan based on potential records, it's time to look at records: census, city directory, probate, land, tax, and more. You can consult Find A Grave to see what information is accurate compared to the paper trails (There are instances that Find a Grave is wrong). We have videos that can help you learn how to use these records as well on our channel. As you build your documented tree, compare that with your DNA results (Ancestry and MyHeritage are better at this than 23andMe), This is the way I teach people to climb their family tree and the only way I know if you'll be able to tie your family tree to royalty. One word of caution. Be prepared to genetic surprises that refute the paper trails.
One suggestion would be to build out your family tree to ensure you have extended your family back multiple generations. Many of the people in my 'pins' are already in my family tree. There are few that aren't in my tree.
As far back as I can trace my family tree on all sides is from Italy, my heritage gave me 20% Italian… while ancestry gave me a much more reasonable 80%. I think it depends on the person and their ethnicities. I feel that for people with assumed Mediterranean DNA are better off taking ancestry. Of course, these tests are just a base to create a family framework
Everyone (who can afford it) is better off testing with all of the companies if they are interested in researching their family history. The ethnicity/heritage results are just for fun.
I got completely different results with both of these. MyHeritage tells my grandmother that she is 23% Greek, 22% Iberian, 20% Sephardic Jew, 11% Middle Eastern, 8% West Asian, 7%% Ashkenazi Jew, 6% Italian, 11% Middle Eastern . Ancestry tells my grandmother she is 99% Italian and 1% North African. What on earth is going on here and which one is accurate? My grandmother's family did come from Italy, but I've always suspected Sephardic Jewish Heritage. She has 3rd cousins who have predominately Sephardic Jewish ancestry, specifically from Tunesia, Algeria, and Turkey. Am I crazy or is Ancestry purposely fudging their data to make their customers happy? Initially, when she tested for Ancestry she had something closer to what MyHeritage was giving her. She had 7% Ashkenazi Jewish (There is no Sephardic Jewish group in Ancestry), she had like 10% Iberian, Middle East, West Asia, and a few other trace amounts. I also got a significant amount of West Asian, like almost 15% which disappeared when Ancestry "updated" its results. They gave me waaaay more Irish than I initially tested for. I only have 1 grandparent who is half Irish so it seemed disproportionate. I originally had like 30% English and Irish which made more sense considering I only had 1 grandparent who was half English/Irish. Why would I have more than half English/Irish? Who is it coming from? (My dad's family all came from Italy and he has very dark skin). How can I be more than 60% Irish when I only have 1 grandparent who is half Irish??? I'm sorry, but Ancestry is lying.
Remember that most companies update periodically. When I first tested with Ancestry.com, it was very generic. This was 6+ years ago. With the latest updates, they become more specific, especially about which areas of the world my different ethnicities came from. I am 50% Jewish. This I always knew because my Dad's side of my family are pretty much 100% Ashkenazi Jewish. In the latest updates, they have narrowed it down to two groups of countries that are pretty much where my family has always thought we came from. I tested with Ancestry and 23&Me. I then uploaded the results from both tests to the other companies that allow one to do that. All of them give different results. However, they are getting closer and more specific.
Remember, that all ethnicity numbers are *_estimates_* . The programmers aren't trying to lie to you but they are trying to help you make sense of your DNA compared to their reference populations. Here are three videos that can help you understand the background of ethnicity results th-cam.com/video/u8lMfGqSrwg/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/i70SZRW9t90/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/ScZtHuU78n4/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/1Cikj7FI6YM/w-d-xo.html
Okay so this explains why my African ancestry is lower on my heritage. There's more options there's more selection. I do notice that when the database is more options that I get more results. And this isn't really a shock. Because I always find it a little weird that on ancestry DNA sometimes I'll see the people in the way your family and the wade family for me is like four generations up or three generations up oh yes actually three generations up and they get South Asian often. South Asian and Central asian. But I get none of it. And I always wondered why do they have some and I have none? But then on my heritage I get nepalese. Which would explain. And my mother has nepalese. Actually slightly more than I do. I think ancestry DNA doesn't pick it up as much because maybe their reference panel isn't that strong and they don't have as many options. And I feel like ancestry DNA focuses way too much on europe. And that's not good for me because I don't have a lot of European heritage.
I love that you're trying to compare both companies and their percentages. I would however recommend you begin building the genetic family tree. Use your DNA matches to see where everyone is from. It becomes challenging in locations without records (but nearly everyone runs out of records). The great thing about DNA is that it awesome for confirming relationships with close relatives. I'm not sure if you're interested, but I did a video about the best test for African heritage. I hope you'll give it a watch. It might not give you more information that you already know. However, it might. th-cam.com/video/SFx_AHU__Tw/w-d-xo.html
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics I've actually tracked some of my family. All the way down to the 1860s. Then something happened. It was weird the people who were their parents were way too old to be their parents so I don't know who those people are. I don't think I'm related to them. So I don't really think I'm related to my family name. So that's why going further than that is a roadblock. Because I don't know who those kids parents are. I know I'm related to the kids. But I don't think I'm related to their parents. At least they're not their direct parents it doesn't seem. Especially since their parents changed in the senses in 1860 they had a certain set of parents and then in 1870 they changed their mother was a different mother. And both mothers were very old. Way too old to bear children.
My smallest percentage is 3/16 : 18.75 which is English, and on my family tree, the first one came in 1626, 2nd one of that line came here in 1635, how far back would that percentage go back, if that percentage would be 320 years, it takes me back, to 1636, and the 2nd of that line to come here from England
But they’re so different. I got 99 percent scottish on ancestry, 1 percent irish. Weird but on my hertiage suddenly i am 15 percent scandvadian yet no trace on 23 and me and another one was saying 15 percent Eastern European
You can my wife should compare notes. This is why I actually try to steer people away from focusing on ethnicity results and instead focus on building their genealogical based and DNA supported family trees. A Beginner's Guide to Getting Started in Genealogy th-cam.com/video/Fx2Tff-R-yI/w-d-xo.html The Basics of Building a Genetic Family Tree th-cam.com/play/PLcVx-GSCjcdmsw25mbI-wJin_9_9QQUzI.html
I had chinese genetic group from hongkong interesting (its the only genetic group i had). But i had 0% chinese in my etnichity so weird. Why is this so? (Myheritage) (i know that my dad’s grandma was adopted from HK and shes chinese) does this make me part chinese at all. Even weirder i had a whopping 9.6% south asian instead in the ethnicity bit which surprised me the most (i know nobody who is south asian in my family). The majority percentage i had were Thai Vietnamese Cambodian (as predicted because thats where everyone frm my family is from) . I had some malay filipino indonesian too. I’ve heard on my grandma’s side she had a greatgrandfather or someone with turkic background maybe the south asian couldve been from there.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics I'm not saying MyHeritage is significantly better with regards to Genetic Ethnicity Groups, but in my opinion it's at least a tie. By awarding an equal number of points to the 5 subjects you have chosen to judge them on, I feel you are giving too much weight to several of these issues in relation to other issues I deem to be far more important, namely the number and accuracy of the genetic groups and the confidence level of the determinations both companies indicate as based on DNA samples from their members. For example - you award the 2nd point to Ancestry "because of the specificity of the 'Who' that they provide". I think there is no noticeable difference between the two companies on that issue. Ancestry's descriptions of who they have put in these groups are vague and inaccurate at best and don't really provide anything extra for most of the groups. The same goes for the descriptions of the groups Ancestry gives, which you mention under "Timeline - Why". Again, vague descriptions at best and less significant than the number and accuracy of the divisions and their confidence level. The subjects Ancestry gets at almost half of their point on are mostly window dressing. Yes, Ancestry does a slightly better job than MyHeritage when you look at how they have packaged these subjects, but that's not the most important thing to me. Ancestry gives me two genetic groups (2 areas in the Netherlands), one of which is doubtful. MyHeritage has assigned 7 genetic groups to me (all areas in the Netherlands), and those with the highest confidence level are spot on. Also, for people like me who do not descend from immigrants to North America, Australia, New Zealand and Israel, tracking the movement of (distant) cousins to those areas (be it on a heat map or via tracking lines) is interesting, but it does not contribute very much to the search for their own ancestors, except in cases where those distant cousins can help you identify common ancestors you do not yet know about.
I uploaded my Ancestry results to MyHeritage, and MyHeritage gave me 8% North African. As far as I know I have no African ancestry whatsoever, and none of the other companies I've tested with have indicated any. Is this just a fluke thing because they're interpreting another company's DNA file?
My two tests were both wrong, but my heritage takes the biscuit for being inaccurate. According to them I’m not English at all, despite my father’s family being traceable in one small spot of England back 600 years. We know who everyone is in the family, thanks to my brother who has 6500 names on the family tree. Im not Scottish, or Scandinavian, or Italian, or Greek. Im thankful though for the holy grail of 0.9% Native American! Sadly, not true either.
I have just got my results back from my heritage and it's say 61.5 northern and central European and 38.5 Irish Scottish and Welsh, but yet my main high level genetic group is eastern European azkanazi Jew ? But yet my ethicnity is 0% azkanazi Jew. Can anyone shed any light on this
Welcome to the confusion known as ethnicity results on DNA platforms. I would recommend that you ignore this entirely and focus on building your family tree using your DNA matches. I know that's not what you want to hear. If you still want more explanations, then check out this video list about DNA + Ethnicity th-cam.com/play/PLcVx-GSCjcdlvwsLScE4NPKwGA-XUNhhM.html
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics yeah I have gathered that after looking into the results. It's still very confusing as I have a family tree on my mother's side that goes back 400 years and it's seem as if they all have lived in London or the surrounding areas. It's a mystery. Thanks for the reply.
Seems pretty much to me that the Ethnicity results are subject to the "it depends" category. In that the higher the volume of people tested being from certain high population areas of the globe the results appear to be more accurate
I've done both My Heritage and Ancestry DNA. There was one noticeable difference in the results. My Heritage showed I have 15 percent West Asian ancestry, while Ancestry DNA showed two percent Levant ancestry.
I'm not surprised. My wife's German and Scandinavian Ancestry is vastly different between the two platforms. Thus, I would recommend ignoring the ethnicity results and focus on building out your genetic family tree. Have you seen my playlist about beginning genetic genealogy tips? th-cam.com/play/PLcVx-GSCjcdmsw25mbI-wJin_9_9QQUzI.html
Is better do the test in Ancestry and upload for free in Myheritage, so you can have your results in Both. I am Brazilian and the Matches in Myheritage are much better than Ancestry. Ancestry looks more accurate in my case, I have no Italians in my family and Myheritage says that I am 21% Italian and Ancestry says 0% , so I trust more in Ancestry. The Bad thing in Ancestry is that they have only 2 communities groups in Brazil, Brazil is Bigger that all Europe and only 2 groups its a shame .
To the first point (testing with Ancestry and transferring to MyHeritage) I agree completely. Regarding the accuracy of the results, I still don't put that much faith in the ethnicity results. The reference populations for South American and the countries of origin for anything outside of England is very, very small. Thus, I'm highly skeptical of all estimates.
Totally agree on these two sites being a "real asset for solving brick wall family lines". I had worked on my family tree for over 40 years and it wasn't until DNA and these 2 sites came along that I was finally able to solve and locate the biological families of 2 of my GG Grandparents using the tools on both sites thereby finally having achieved correct biological families on all of my 16 GG Grandparent lines.
I don’t trust My Heritage. They have me at 44% English, but I’m 5+ generations into my family tree and have yet to come across any English ancestor. In addition, there have been no adoptions to my knowledge.
I only vote for myHeritage, 0 likes given to Ancestry Why? Simple reason really. First kit from Ancestry came out late and when I did figure about it manually with no help from them it failed in their labs few weeks later. Second kit came on time, but again failed in their labs. I cancelled third kit and requested refund, they are very slow with refunding. It's mission impossible to give them fine by their standards sample to some people. MyHeritage did my analysis of my sample fully in just couple weeks from the first attempt, because its taken with swabs from cheeks. So all my votes goes to myHeritage, you dont want wait for three months like with Ancestry just to figure it failed in their labs
Ancestry didn't identify my Grandmother's Spanish background at all but My Heritage did and I am 19% Spanish. Ancestry didn't record the part of the South of England that all my Father's family came from for many generations. When they updated their results it finally showed. The overall findings were similar but the percentages were very different between the two.
My wife, Devon, has the same experience but in reverse. MyHeritage says she's more Scandinavian but in Ancestry, she has a better balance of British and German heritage. On paper, Ancestry is more accurate.
Updates on DNA Resuts are not 100% especially when you have done research and are very frustrated as you have no recourse to an explanation. All the companies suck whenso called sciences have advanced in only means they have gone backward.
10:05ish - there's one thing, and one thing *only* that made our family choose MH over Ancestry: Their tests are disability accessible. I did later reach out to Ancestry & spoke with several people including a certain, prominent genealogist of theirs, & was told by all of them, but I will quote the official company response not to single out any of them: "We understand that cheek scraping kits would be more accessible for disabled people and that spit tests effectively exclude people, but we have no plans to introduce those. We are happy with the kits we have". Told me everything I need to know about Ancestry. If it weren't for college and work (I'm studying for my licensing exam & doing some work experience), I wouldn't touch Ancestry with a bargepole. Sadly, they're the necessary evil.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics agreed. We're extremely lucky that GedMatch reads all the different chips, so there's no lack/restriction on matches because we tested with a (at that time) smaller company, but it's definitely an interesting stance from a company whose business is essentially people.
I was amazed at how really simple my MyHeritage cheek-sampling was! My wife had to spend 10-15 mins. spitting into a bottle, for her 23andme test. Seems a bit much, really.
How is it a scam? They use different reference sets and they have different algorithms. Since no one has shown they are accurate for everyone (or even what accurate means), I would expect them to be different.
My Heritage was way more accurate than Ancestry, especially after they updated their databases they actually provided very accurate information about the ethnicity on my mothers side. Ancestries results were 50% close I am sorry, but that's truth
This is true based on your experience. I appreciate your thoughts. I do stand by the fact that it's not true for everyone. My wife is among many to find the ethnicity results to vary from company to company.
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My Heritage and Ancestry gave me two pretty different ethnicity results 😕 and being adopted I don’t know which one is correct. However I liked what came up on My Heritages more LOL AND I found a sister on their site who was also adopted! Neither one of us knew about each other 😮 this was 3 years ago, we keep in contact regular. She was even at my wedding ❤️
that's sooo cool, i'm adopted too -
i only did it on myheritage and got 4 dna matches... but 3 had 0,1% and 1 had 0.2%
i'm curious to know what 16,5% north african and 16'3% middle eastern is... I transfered to dnaland but that said "35% egyptian arab" but that's still to vague for me
Ancestry is the one that's right
@@charlesjohnson945 what makes ancestry more right? larger database?
It's tough to decide which one is correct. Both companies use different reference populations that they are comparing your DNA test to. My wife's results are different on each platform. She's not an anomaly. Thus, we don't advocate taking DNA tests for ethnicity research. Instead, take DNA tests to build your genetic family tree through finding names and using genetic genealogy techniques.
Nihilsea... the websites are comparing to different reference populations. There is no site that's better in determining ethnicity results than another, although they will profess that they are better. Take ethnicity results with a grain of salt. Instead, build a genetic genealogy tree. Now, I recognize you're adopted, but it can be possible. Check out this playlist th-cam.com/play/PLcVx-GSCjcdk1GsAs9NfLWKvACcjE3Afg.html
I enjoyed this so much! I feel both have strong points and it is wise to use both. Thank you for your insight!
You are so welcome!
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics ok I have a question If one of my Ethnicity Estimates is 0% how do I have genetic group results show up if I don't have no % given but yet I have genetic groups showing I don't get it and do these genetic groups mean I'm related to them even tho it's 0% asking for my son cause he's said Ethiopian Jewish and How can you click of the surnames and places , states and countries listed to view it's information and history ? He says his dad's mom said he had Ethiopia Jewish but it said 0% but yet it still gave him genetic matches from Chicago and Ethiopia at very low and high pins percentages but he has no high or low frequency levels options that you mentioned ? Can you explain all this for us cause my heritage says when most of it is all mid levels it won't be viewed sometimes left us confessed more than anything? So basically why does he have 0% ethnicity estimate or DNA results but still have a genetic group labled from the same ethnic group that doesnt show up on myheritage?
I've found My Heritage to have the biggest difference in ethnicity estimates compared to Ancestry and 23andme. I attribute this to how they categorize their groups. They have very limited groups for non-Anglo countries and as their timeline is based on British colonization it doesn't seem to differentiate very well between Native American and Spanish colonization before 1600s. All the sites have an unfortunate lacking in samples from outside the US to properly group non-Anglo or very mixed populations like Latin America. Hopefully as more people test this will improve, but so far I've found Ancestry to have the greatest detail in matching my known tree.
I thought Anglo relates to the English?
It is true that England, Scotland, and Wales are well represented in reference population databases. Partly because not all counties allow commercial DNA testing. th-cam.com/video/_vsPS5KPrBI/w-d-xo.html
Agree. Not enough as a Latin American and I only got two genetic groups: Chileans in Chile (crazy ik who would have thought?) and Filipino (not true). As well as the fact that I don’t have Ashkenazi Jewish heritage, but since it is an Israeli company I’m sure that Jewish populations are their speciality. Sephardic Jewish, I cannot deny though neither can I confirm it. That would have been more accurate. The other dna percentages were probably accurate, it’s just not that specific.
Do the DNA tests go back 200 years or 400 years.
The thing I like about the MyHeritage genetic groups is that it is the only one out of all of the companies I've taken a test with that identified my connection to the Netherlands and Indian Ocean Islands. I have a grandparent from Mauritius, and I get the French Settlers in Reunion genetic community on MH (more testers from Reunion than from Mauritius on MH but at least in the right area) a 2x great-grandparent from the Netherlands and I get North Holland also on MH. Neither 23andme or Ancestry assign any regions outside of the UK for me. In fact, my Ancestry DNA communities are sorely lacking, I only have 1 community which is Dorset & Somerset which is about 1/4 of my known ancestry, whereas on MH I have 7.
Thanks for sharing your experiences with these tests.
same thing wit me. I have south african heritage so I got the communities on myheritage however on Ancestry I got 0.
@ribsyrupss8778 my mum has the Asians in South Africa and Eastern China and Southeast Asia Communities as well as her English ones on Ancestry. She has Shona & Nguni Peoples, Madagascar, and Mainland China (Southern Provinces) on 23andme.
Unfortunately MH is well known to provide false and inaccurate results in ethnicity … therefore should be avoided!
I share both Autosomal DNA from MyHeritage and Ancestry and transferred them to MyTrueAncestry, I’ve only shared MyHeritage to Gedmatch not yet shared ancestry to Gedmatch yet, but the ancient deep dives samples on MyTrueAncestry are missing Scythian 2.7% from ancestry where the MyHeritage autosomal DNA had in the ancient deep dives and Germanic ones added into the percentages 🤷♀️
I am trying to discover my maternal grandmother’s parents and ethnicity since she was adopted and we know virtually nothing of her background. That being said, I have had my DNA tested both by Ancestry and 23&Me to get a broader base of information. I have since learned that I can upload my DNA info to MyHeritage to tap into their databanks, which I fully intend to do. Hopefully, I will at last get the clues I need to find the answers I seek. Any suggestions?
Watch my series about researching when you have adoption in your family tree. th-cam.com/play/PLcVx-GSCjcdk1GsAs9NfLWKvACcjE3Afg.html Then ask more follow-up questions in those videos.
I didn't get assigned to any communities on ancestry, but when I uploaded my DNA to myheritage it showed: Flanders, limburg (Netherlands), a part of Germany and the Dominican Republic. this is very accurate and I didn't expect this from myheritage. My percentages are also pretty mixed up. Ancestry says that I have 6% Scottish ,20% English , 4% Iberian and no scandinavian but myheritage says I don't have any scottish and English. And it shows 20% Iberian and 5,4 scandinavian. I know that the germanic regions have similar dna/ migration background but it's very confusing.
It is very confusing because the companies do a poor job of explaining that the estimates are based on comparing our DNA to reference populations. The reference populations outside of the British Isles is VERY small. Thus, you will see wild swings in ethnicity groups between the companies. If the companies can recruit more people to their reference populations, perhaps the ethnicity results accuracy will increase.
I run the account for my mother's DNA, my DNA, my cousin's DNA and my children. The tree on Ancestry is the same for me, my mother and my sons. My mother is placed in a different genetic community than I am, or my children. I giggle when the people on the tree end up in the wrong genetic community because it's my DNA result. The same person will end up in their correct genetic community on my mother's DNA results. I think Ancestry has written a program that has strong racial categories as opposed to fully understanding the ethnic history of Americans. Our family is so mixed, Ancestry gets it "wrong" a lot.
1. Ethnicity and race are ambiguous words. Thus, I'm not surprised that the groups are different than what some would expect.
2. However, each person will have different combinations of ethnic inheritance, thus each member of the family will not have the same percentages. We have tested all of our children, all of my brothers, my wife's brother, and my parents. Our ethnicity percentages are not consistent.
Thus, we only suggest the communities as hypothesis rather than facts. Use it as a potential clue to search for your fairly. Build your family tree based on as many records as possible and then connect that tree with other DNA matches and determine your heritage in that fashion.
I did both Ancestry and Myheritage. As a Black person, I am most impressed with Myheritage. The amount of family and hidden histories dealing with my family that was founded by that company without me doing the search has been amazing. They have dig so deep into my ancestry that that they found my ancestors half and adopted relatives. All I had to do is make a small family tree of me, my siblings, my parents and their parents for Myheritage to do the rest and was spot on. I now know more about my family in a one year time span of me having Myheritage than the five years I had AncestryDNA. That’s a major win for Myheritage. The DNA test side of is lacking on both sides.
Thanks for sharing your experience with me.
Problem with MH is that they provide inaccurate and incorrect test results .. not really helpful.
Autosomal test and genetic communities are more my concern so I'd say from this myheritage wins I guess. Thank you for telling me your experience so I know the genetic communities are more commonly accurate. Thanks for the video!
I hope you'll eventually begin building out your genetic family tree. They will be more accurate. Based on your other comments, this might be difficult due to your African heritage. However, you might be surprised what you're able to find.
My Heritage is notorious for providing inaccurate and false results. Definitively the one to avoid for testing!
@@GanymedeXD Not true, Their spans of ethnicities is larger to compare and analyze. Ancestry's database is larger but severly lacks diversity. I even took MyHeritage, 23&me, Ancestry, CRI (awful) & Family Tree, all different results with Family Tree & CRI being worse. MyHeritage & 23 lined up with who my ancestors who were still living at the time. I even have a cousin who's of German decent who studies German/American genealogy with thousands in her family tree. MyHeritage, 23, & even CRI picked up a large chunk of my German, African and south Asian. These ancestors are RECENT.
Ancestry just said I was English, Irish, only 1% German, & completely gotten rid of Italian. I was missing a chunk of dna & Ancestry lumped it with random African regions. Family tree just said I was Irish, nowhere else in Europe. Family Tree, CRI, & Ancestry are LAZY with ethnicity estimates😂
Good presentation. An aside: My only gripe with MyHeritage is with the Ethnicity estimate they gave me. They claim I'm 18% Balkan yet I have no relatives from the Balkans, even on their own website! All my relatives (on their own webside) who aren't Brit or German are up in Scandinavia (where I expected them to be) from our family trad. So I did the Ancestry the 23andMe tests to check these unexpected results. Well, both Ancestry and 23andMe put between 15 to 25% of my ancestry up in Scandinavia. Neither listed me as having any Balkan heritage. Makes me wonder about MyHeritage when they don't even take a gander at their own website to double check their "ethnicity" estimates. ;) I wonder how small and possibly uneven their worldwide DNA testing pool was/is?
If you have Scandinavian and Balkan that might mean you have Varangian Guard ancestors (Swedish Norsemen/Viking) They worked for the Byzantine Empire and were elite guards from an emperor. So that's where the Balkan comes from, if you have Balkan in your dna test doesn't mean you have ancestors who live in Balkan, it's based on DNA Matches, so it most definitely comes from the Varangians
The worldwide testing pool is small. The reference population outside of the British Isles is VERY small. Thus, all companies will be off unless more regions of the world increase their participation in the study. That also requires those in the reference population to have had no family migration for the last four generations. To learn more about reference populations, check out this video. th-cam.com/video/ScZtHuU78n4/w-d-xo.html
Hi, maybe I am too stupid, but I still can't really make sense of this. My MyHeritage ethnicity estimate has me as approxomately 38 % Scandinavian, 23 % East European, 21 % North- and West European and 18 % Balkan. Yet the three genetic groups listed additionally further down on the page are 1."England and Ireland", 2."Germany, France (Grand Est), Austria, Switzerland, Belgium and Netherlands" and 3. "Germany". Now these groups have only very few geographical overlaps with my Ethnicities. How can one make sense of this?
You are probably Moroccan 🇲🇦
Thank you for the wonderful video. I do have a high confidence group on MH that is not related to my ethnicity. It's beginning to tell a fascinating story. I would like to see how you use it in a similar scenario.
BTW, I just in the last couple weeks received a refinement on my groups at Ancestry. Now, instead of a large blob over Germany I have two groups that really accurately reflect my heritage.
Wonderful! That's pretty cool. We'd love to hear about the fascinating story.
I got 100% English on MyHeritage DNA which seems dubious considering I have European heritage and a non-english surname derived from that Swiss family line
Watch this video next and perhaps you'll understand why the results might be as they currently are.
Blame Reference Populations if Your Ethnicity Results Are Wrong th-cam.com/video/ScZtHuU78n4/w-d-xo.html
I use both in conjunction with each other. The chromosomes browser, and triangulation on MH and the color coding on AncestryDNA and Thrulines Hints, helps support the paper trail I have. Remember that DNA doesn’t lie. Family trees may have unintentional errors.
Great points and way to use all the features.
Not true really. DNA tests are all estimates so maybe lie is not a good choice of words but you csn most definitely get incorrect estimates.
@@jessikamoore5033 hints always help if you look for support documents. No support or triangulation support with others support keeps it a hint. I waited five years before getting triangulation support records.
Which dna company do you recommend for those with some African dna? Thank you.
African DNA: Which DNA Test is the Better? | Genetic Genealogy th-cam.com/video/SFx_AHU__Tw/w-d-xo.html
Very interesting! I just found your channel!
Welcome!
im sorry this is on an old video but i was curious as to why my paternal half sister got czechia in communities and i got central/northeast poland. our grandfather is polish, his ancestors came from russian partitioned poland and slovakia/austria partitioned poland ?
Ancestry had my community in the USA, then changed it to Elbe-Weser (Germany), which makes more sense for moms side. Their history timelines are a waste for anyone who isn't American though. My dad was from the old East Prussia. It's like 100's of years of history doesn't exist in that region.
Thanks for your insight into areas outside the US. Have you sent Ancestry some feedback about East Prussia? I wonder if they would like some help in those areas.
Hello, Andy. Glad you popped in.
Agreed
Question about genetic groups vs ethnicity, which I’m surprised nobody is talking about (unless I’m being a bit dumb?)… so i have a circa 30% iberian but the genetic groups locates Yorkshire with high confidence. Iberian locations don’t come up on the genetic groups. So my questions is, how can you have such a high percentage for an ethnicity, without any genetic group recognition there?
I have ethnicity estimates from MyHeritage and 23andme. I also have a fairly complete family tree (63 of 64 4great grandparents, and 90 of 128 5 ggp). From records I am 75% Czech (Bohemian) and 25% Polish. 23andme gives me an estimate of 95% Eastern European and about 5% German, seems plausible and accurate. Myheritage records 26% Scottish, Irish, Welsh. Why such a huge difference between testing companies?
23&me has my grandma as only Italian and middle eastern w trace Greek and my father at half Italian/middle eastern, quarter Eastern European; 10% German and 3% Greek/balkan... meanwhile my heritage has them both at over 10% Irish Scottish Welsh and a trace ashkenazi Jewish. Seems to be out of nowhere but I’m receiving their ancestry results within the next month so we’ll see the comparison !
The could be explained that for Scottish, Irish, Wales, etc., the companies have a larger comparison population than the Bohemian and Polish groups. Thus, you might not share DNA with the individuals in the reference Bohemian and Polish reference population. If either company can increase the number of individuals who take a DNA test, have fully documented their Bohemian or Polish ancestors in the same location to their great-grandparents, then you will likely see your ethnicity percentages change.
To also clarify... the websites are different because they have different reference populations, but they both have the same 'small reference populations' problem for regions outside of the British Isles and some regions in Africa.
I believe Ancestry gets the DNA Traits results alot faster than they tell you. I say this bc last week, I had a DNA Trait result appear...I had just enough time to screenshot it...then it disappeared. And it still hasn't shown that it was tested. But the trait that they showed (briefly) was accurate. "Naps". Lol. I don't nap often, but always feel the need to around the same time every day. Pretty neat. I suspect that they prolong giving results in hopes that you'll sign up and pay that monthly fee. Which, was supposed to be a part of the package I bought.
You're able to build a small family tree with your DNA test. To access the DNA matching tools, more matches, and genealogical records, you need a membership
My genetic groups on MH are like Ancestry, primarily all in the US. I uploaded my Ancestry and 23 and Me. For the Ancestry, at low co fidence I get the UK and their descendants in the US but does not tell me where, and I get a US, Canada, New Zealand and Australia one with the 23 and Me. I don't know why. Well, my paternal grandma was half Italian. My 2nd GGF was from Slovenia amd his wife Zurich, Switzerland. None of them are in my communities for eithee company.
My mum has 0.8% mesoamerican,ihave 3.4%mesoamerican they very smalltraces,my mums haplogroup is t2a1b,did mesoamerican have haplogroup t,can you please explain,thankyou
So I was re watching the video and one of the things that I found that was different about communities is the size of the communities. Ancestry's are much more narrowed. For my kit on Ancestry the whole span is from just inside of New Jersy to just across the border into Illinois and from Kentucky to just into Michigan. And they all center in the area where my ancestors would have mingled. And because I know my tree it is where I would expect. On the other hand in My heritage one of my high confidence areas is from Maine to almost to the border of Colorado from Minnesota /Maine in the North (and part of Canada) down to Mississippi and Alabama. My other one is a small one from Ohio and PA. And even when I decrease confidence to moderate I had three more communites and two are just almost as big as the first one I mentioned and the 'small; one still covers five-six states in the mid-west. I am not certain how I feel about this. Obviously my American ancestors who have been on the continent for two to three centuries yes, we have been in at least half the country. So while there are more and they are accurate are they actually to general to be helpful? So while Ancestry has fewer they are more narrowed and more pinpoint so does it not matter that they don't have more general ones? So after reviewing my own kits I think that Ancestry having the few communites is actaully better. After all, having half of my seven communities just saying Mid West #x doesn't do much overall. This means I disagree with your first point going to MyHeritage. Now this could be my particular kit. As I have been looking through the different communities in each ethnicity and they have a lot of spefic even down to the state leve, I just don't qualify for any but one.
Great feedback. We had a debate in our home whether the more groups is really better or too much of the same.
I found it funny that the Israeli company distinguish between Yemeni Jews, North African Jews, Ashkenazi Jews, Mizrahi Jews etc...while labelling many nations in the MENA region as West Asian, Middle Eastern and North African
It all has to do with reference populations. They probably have enough DNA from the different Jewish groups (which are ethnically distinct) to separate them out. However, if the number of samples from other groups isn't large, they can't effectively separate them out. th-cam.com/video/u8lMfGqSrwg/w-d-xo.html
Ancestry and MyHeritage both seem to have a problem with why certain groups migrated to America and pre-1700 is seriously lacking. Almost all of my immigrants had come to America before then. One was summering in New Hampshire by 1600 as a fishmonger yet because the land grant didn't happen until 1623 this group of working men is ignored, probably because they didn't bring women with them. They are the group who taught the Natives English so they were able to communicate with the Pilgrims when they arrived. I had over 20 who came on the Mayflower and the early ships which explains the very high percentage of English. All of my ancestors who were in America pre-1660 are called settlers "wanting a new start" blah blah blah. With over 25% Scottish ancestry dating to 1651-1652 and having researched these men I know they were definitely not "settlers" or seeking "a new start". Ancestry and My Heritage also have HUGE differences with my percentage. Almost 20% on one group. The map timeline also completely ignores pre-1700 immigrants so you can't go to individual profiles. Big fail for both companies pre-1700
Thank you for sharing your feedback. I appreciate it greatly.
Very interesting. I have family that came over in 1651 - 1652 as well. Im about to do one of these. Trying to find the best one.
@@mige3394 Look up Scottish Prisoners of War. They have a website and a facebook group. Do you know who your ancestors were? I have "met" several with one or two common ancestors from this time period and one who we have decided we are "multi-cousins" haha That happens when you have common 4th or 5th gg-grandparents a couple of times. The more I read the more I love history
@@mige3394 Ancestry with out doubt, my heritage doesn’t really specify Countries for me and clums up like for example Celtic instead country but it’s okay :) just saying ancestry is more specific.
Suppose my girlfriend is 97% - 99% White, just like most White Americans are.
I wanna know how much of her Non-White DNA comes from these races: Black Negro, Jewish & Middle Eastern, Australian Aborigine, Melanesian.
Which DNA companies should I get DNA kits from?
Do I need more than 1 DNA company to do the tests?
Thanks!
Actually, all of those races are under represented in DNA databases because so few of people who can prove their 4 grandparents are all from the same place have taken a DNA test. That's the requirement needed to be included in the databases. Until that increases, taking a DNA test to learn your ethnicity results is not likely to be accurate or beneficial. If you're trying to build your family tree using DNA matches, then you might come up with your heritage questions by researching your ancestors.
I think My Heritage has the edge and the site looks and works better. The app is very nice. I've started to make my family tree in Ancestry and switched to My Heritage because has more tools and is a more pleasent experience overall.
I like the tools on MyHeritage better than Ancestry.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE A COMPUTER, WOULD THEY SEND YOU PAPERWORK OF ALL THEY FOUND, IF YOU DID IT THRU, MY HERITAGE, SO VERY INTERESTING, THANK YOU
No. These are digital companies. You have to use a computer to access the results. Find a library (after quarantine) and access the websites there.
So I just looked at the other kits I have on My Heritage to see if it was just me. And all of them still seem to be widespread across the half of the country. Except for my late mother in law. Hers has no communites and that she is just from Poland; but her family has lived in Cuyahoga County, Ohio since the 1880's. I take that back, she has three commnities,they just all include Poland.
So, some are good and others are - meh?
Ancestry is spot on with my family tree in Canada and USA and Asia. My heritage is more spot on With My European heritage. I linked to mid 1800 with ancestry when my ancesters came from Europe, and got more detailed results on my heritage prior to that when my family was in Europe. My step brother has father from germany and cousins in germany. Heritage did better job mapping my brothers German family for example from the stories my step father talk about it matches better. So if your family is mostly North american based or atleast asia Ancestry is better, my heritage seems more focused on Europe. so that right there seems to be the big difference. You might have to use both to get accurate results.
Thanks for sharing your review.
Looking forward to this video; Im curious as to why I received a certain genetic community.
Did you figure out why?
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics
My husband was born and raised in Canada, his results reflected the 3 grandparents who settled Newfoundland and Labrador back in the 18th Century. No sign of his English war bride grandmother other than her proportion of English DNA approx.
I immigrated to Canada in my early 20's. The AncestryDNA story keeps telling me why people were leaving England, Scotland and Ireland (where my ancestors came from) at all of the periods I can find my ancestors in these places. That AncestryDNA harps on about people were leaving the places my family stayed, makes the entire platform communicate that it isn't targeting Europeans. They don't actually give a shit about us as customers. These are North American stories of why their ancestors left, not European stories of why we stayed. Each time I see it, I'm annoyed again.
My kids results don't reflect my husband's side from Newfoundland and Labrador. In fact, they give a lot less information than to our kids than they do us. They call our kids broadly northwest European mostly. Why is it so accurate and match so closely for me and my husband and become so confused one generation down?
@@runningfromabear8354 that is a lot of groups chooser mine I have 12 have had more than that I have less than @ancestry has 1400+ so about 50% less than what my heritage has and because of that I'm going to give the category is the time
@@reneedaniel9443 I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
@RunningFromABear First, your children will inherit different combinations of your DNA from you and your husband. That recombination will increase or decrease their biological ethnic heritage. This video explains genetic inheritance th-cam.com/video/-f7VUPmgy2U/w-d-xo.html.
Second... Newfoundland and Labrador are locations with many immigrants. It won't show up as an ethnicity percentage, but rather the origin of those who settled the area. However, you should have some genetic groups if Ancestry has enough people within their database that have this heritage. It's possible that not enough people who have passed through those locations (or still remain) are in the Ancestry member trees or have taken DNA tests and attached their DNA to a tree with Newfoundland and Labrador on their branches. Thus, that will decrease your results because Ancestry doesn't have enough to go off of.
Finally, I do see that some stories about why people stayed could be valuable in genetic history. I would recommend you send your feedback to Ancestry directly. Perhaps you can be the person to help make that change happen.
Both sites gave me different results, but you can’t take those percentages at face value. MyHeritage says I’m 40% Iberian - but that’s because I’m part of a subgroup of people from South Brazil. And if you use their timeline, you see that that subgroup had people spread all over Europe as you go back in time. So most of my German ancestry (which is most of it) fell into that Iberian group.
That's one way to compare the two sites. Have you started building your family tree using DNA matches? I hope so. th-cam.com/play/PLcVx-GSCjcdmsw25mbI-wJin_9_9QQUzI.html
A location is not necessarily an ethnicity, though. And that’s another way that so-called ethnicity results can be wrong. Also, ethnicity is NOT biological; it’s socio-cultural. Even though in English we talk about ethnicity being “in the blood,” it isn’t; certain traits may be inherited, but traits don’t define ethnicity, even if, for example, more people in Italy tend to have celiac disease than people in Morocco do. This is also due to random genetic recombination in every generation.
Another complication: I’ve yet to see autosomal results from a company that say what time period they’re using to describe the results. Some ethnicity maps may describe genetic heritage that goes back 200-300 years; another, 500-700 years. For many individuals, that could change the map a lot. What happens if you want to go back, say, 1500 years? Oops, sorry, autosomal tests run out of gas by about 700 years back. If that. So 500 years ago, your ancestors may have come from Poland. But what if some of your *hundreds* of ancestors were among the Turks or Tatar people who invaded what’s now Poland in the medieval period? Are you Polish or Turkic?
Finally: giving DNA companies the power to define who and *what* you are is a terrible idea. It gets into highly problematic moral and ethical questions about identity.
Genetic testing wasn’t designed to reveal ethnicity. Don’t let some company tell you who you are.
I took both and the results are very different except for the Amerindian group. I found Ancestry is more specific, when it comes to the ethnic groups. For example I'm part of the Garifuna community and that has not pop up in MyHeritage at all. Now I'm wondering if I should take 23AndMe to see who is the accurate one.
If you're just looking at ethnicity results, I would caution against it. Instead, build your genetic family tree.
I'm looking for specific countries, not just regions, which one is better?
None are better. Watch this video Can DNA tests identify specific locations where your ancestors lived? th-cam.com/video/JZZM_iHIBTM/w-d-xo.html
ancestry said i was 40% russian, 40% german, 7% english, 2% swedish and 1% mongolian and jewish each. myherutge an the other side had completely different results - to the point where i was suddenly 13% spanish? this doesnt fit my family tree at ALL.
According to My Heritage, I am almost 70% Native American; according to Ancestry, just 52% Native American. Worse, 23andMe, says I am 51.6% European and just 47% Native American. Why such wide discrepancy? Could all be wrong?
Use the tests for entertainment as none are 100% accurate at guessing which ethnicity people inherited nor how much they have inherited.
@@naomiwilliams8850 Wong. They both have different grading panels/data base
@@ninpobudo3876 both have a disclaimer and state that ethnicity results are for entertainment and subject to change. So no, not wrong. Nor *wong* as you stated
@@naomiwilliams8850 not wrong but WONG! It's scary accurate.
Ethnicities change and percentages. I don't watch percentages. Another thing one need to understand is HISTORY. Also, I do my family genealogy and these test are accurate
First, recognize that Native American doesn't mean US Native American. It typically means South and Central America Indigenous people.
Second, the variance happens because each company has a different reference population to compare your DNA with. If they have different comparison populations, you will receive different results To learn more about reference populations, check out this video. th-cam.com/video/ScZtHuU78n4/w-d-xo.html
Which is better for ethnicity?
Neither and both. They are estimates and have different reference populations that they are comparing your DNA test to. My wife's results are different on each platform. She's not an anomaly. Thus, we don't advocate taking DNA tests for ethnicity research. Instead, take DNA tests to build your genetic family tree.
On MyHeritage, got a group that I had no idea before, completely shocking so I'm curious what do you think about accuracy of MyHeritage.
I have 1.5 percent Papua New Guinea. I uploaded my Genome into Family Tree and they found it. Ny Heritage found it. GEDMatch found it. But I tested with both Ancestry and 23andme and nothing.
Thus far, the accuracy is fairly comparable. The high confidence groups match what I suspect. Their lower confidence levels are things to investigate with skpeticism.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics im from Turkey and we got 2 genetic groups one is turkey/greece which was expected but confidence level is low, even tho they accurately guess my homecity. The second one is Swiss from Switzerland and we have no idea from where we got this. Btw, its confidence level is medium. I contacted MyHeritage to be sure about accuracy of this and they somehow said it can be French(northwest) listed under Swiss. Funny thing is, i have tons of matches from Scotland, Ireland, England and France for real yet, we have no idea how we got this. Do you think there can be a mistake?
@@suukkun No mistake. Study history
Slowly Slow... the low confidence for your known heritage is likely because few people in the comparison populations are from Turkey/Greece. There are more people from Switzerland in the reference population and significantly more from the British Isles. Have you seen my video th-cam.com/video/PLoONLU01Dc/w-d-xo.html ? It goes further into the MyHeritage Genetic Groups.
The one thing i didnt like about my heritageDNA is how they combined vietnamese and chinese into one group. Yes they are very similar, but man we are still different. Why they hell are there so many subgroups for being jewish (i got like 2 different ones) but you can't be bothered to seperate vietnamese from Chinese. The only big issue i had really.
Very interesting! 👍
Glad you thought so.
Hi. I got a surprising 18% of scandinavian ethnicity on Myheritage, relating to many scandinavian surnames/ distant relatives. Then I tested my parents on Ancestry and it showed zero Scandinavia, not relating to any of scandinavian surnames. How is that possible/ what went wrong? Thank you.
You and my wife have the same problem. On one company her German ethnicity shows up, on another it disappears and is replaced by Scandinavia. First, check out this video about why the different results happen. th-cam.com/video/mlAq-R1XCes/w-d-xo.html
Second, ignore the ethnicity results and build your family tree using records th-cam.com/video/Fx2Tff-R-yI/w-d-xo.html and DNA matching. th-cam.com/play/PLcVx-GSCjcdmsw25mbI-wJin_9_9QQUzI.html
I didn't like where Ancestry gives bad hints of relatives and I also don't like when you pull a known document sometimes their suggested documents aren't for the same individual. Many people are linking to these, trusting ancestry, and it results in false information and hence bad hints.
Ancestry's computer hinting system requires human insight to improve. Many wrong hints deal with people of the same name. The computer program can't tell the different between the two similarly named individuals, so it asks you. As we interact with the hints, then the program can improve.
HOWEVER, as you pointed out, there are member trees that have inaccurate information on them. This negatively impacts the hinting system. Some hints are "here's a record on a user tree for this same individual." Not every family tree is error free. (Don't let any one tell you that, no matter how long they've been researching. Devon and I have been researching for 30 years each and we make mistakes and find mistakes all the time.)
In record search results, you will often see suggestions from the other side of the world. Ancestry (and similar platforms) cast a wide net until we filter the results. Who knows where our ancestors might go. Staring broad and narrowing down is usually best.
Instead of being upset by incorrect record hints, just recognize that it's part of the process. Devon has two videos about record hints th-cam.com/video/Nn1j1Z3CsH4/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/BAbk5Jh0tKw/w-d-xo.html for further viewing.
Theres not enough people submitting dna’s that connect to your lineage. And some people did their dna’s but dont do the family tree.
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Good luck. There are few who have taken the DNA test from those regions. So, I highly recommend patience and promoting the service to others.
my results varied wildly between the two. 23&me said i am about 60% british and irish, 22% german and the rest were just straggler ethnicities, which basically checked out perfectly with my family tree. myheritage however said i am 0% british and irish, and actually 75% german and 25% swedish, which just seems soooo off.
i have heard many ppl complain about how drastically different their results were, but i feel like mine just takes the cake.
the thing is, i didn’t buy a new kit for myheritage, i just uploaded my raw dna results. could that tamper with the results at all?
Uploading to MyHeritage rather than taking a test isn't the reason.
Both companies have different referance populations. My wife's DNA is different across every platform. And the new Ancestry 'parental split' DNA is even more confusing.
So... build your family tree based on DNA matches and genealogy records and ignore the ethnic results. We'd all learn more about our heritage faster and more accurately that way if we would.
Does it have certain ethnic groups? (For example Silesians, Kashubians, Sorbians, Ruthinians, Bavarians)
At this time, it's unlikely as the number of people in their reference population with that heritage is very small. The reference population outside of the British Isles is VERY small.
What's the best way to find out if your ancestry is related to lands, titles, or certain families of note? I have done 23 and Me but its more biological - I need to find information based on my name as I move backward in time. On my dad's mom's side, "Find a grave" has been very helpful. It went back to the 1700's. But its not telling me who any of these people were. My original 23 and Me was so much different than the second adjustment. I asked them about this and they say it adjusts depending on how many other people get their DNA checked. Does this make sense? Personally, I was happier with my initial check.
I would like to know that too since I come from a family of earls, I think my heritage is the best because you can access many papers and documents about your ancestors
The best way to find out your ancestry is to do paper-trail genealogical research. Build your family tree starting with yourself and documenting all of your ancestors (parents, grandparents, great-grandparents) and so forth. Be sure to includes aunts/uncles, and cousins so that you have a robust tree from which to connect your living DNA matches to your family tree.
You'll want to become familiar with the records available for the time and place you're researching. Devon has two videos that might help with this. th-cam.com/video/a8-LTngSL6c/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/jIR6hatnyEE/w-d-xo.html.
Once you have a paper trail genealogy research plan based on potential records, it's time to look at records: census, city directory, probate, land, tax, and more. You can consult Find A Grave to see what information is accurate compared to the paper trails (There are instances that Find a Grave is wrong). We have videos that can help you learn how to use these records as well on our channel.
As you build your documented tree, compare that with your DNA results (Ancestry and MyHeritage are better at this than 23andMe),
This is the way I teach people to climb their family tree and the only way I know if you'll be able to tie your family tree to royalty.
One word of caution. Be prepared to genetic surprises that refute the paper trails.
How do you get the pins up to see who is in that group the WHO
One suggestion would be to build out your family tree to ensure you have extended your family back multiple generations. Many of the people in my 'pins' are already in my family tree. There are few that aren't in my tree.
As far back as I can trace my family tree on all sides is from Italy, my heritage gave me 20% Italian… while ancestry gave me a much more reasonable 80%. I think it depends on the person and their ethnicities. I feel that for people with assumed Mediterranean DNA are better off taking ancestry. Of course, these tests are just a base to create a family framework
Everyone (who can afford it) is better off testing with all of the companies if they are interested in researching their family history. The ethnicity/heritage results are just for fun.
I got completely different results with both of these. MyHeritage tells my grandmother that she is 23% Greek, 22% Iberian, 20% Sephardic Jew, 11% Middle Eastern, 8% West Asian, 7%% Ashkenazi Jew, 6% Italian, 11% Middle Eastern . Ancestry tells my grandmother she is 99% Italian and 1% North African. What on earth is going on here and which one is accurate? My grandmother's family did come from Italy, but I've always suspected Sephardic Jewish Heritage. She has 3rd cousins who have predominately Sephardic Jewish ancestry, specifically from Tunesia, Algeria, and Turkey. Am I crazy or is Ancestry purposely fudging their data to make their customers happy? Initially, when she tested for Ancestry she had something closer to what MyHeritage was giving her. She had 7% Ashkenazi Jewish (There is no Sephardic Jewish group in Ancestry), she had like 10% Iberian, Middle East, West Asia, and a few other trace amounts. I also got a significant amount of West Asian, like almost 15% which disappeared when Ancestry "updated" its results. They gave me waaaay more Irish than I initially tested for. I only have 1 grandparent who is half Irish so it seemed disproportionate. I originally had like 30% English and Irish which made more sense considering I only had 1 grandparent who was half English/Irish. Why would I have more than half English/Irish? Who is it coming from? (My dad's family all came from Italy and he has very dark skin). How can I be more than 60% Irish when I only have 1 grandparent who is half Irish??? I'm sorry, but Ancestry is lying.
Remember that most companies update periodically. When I first tested with Ancestry.com, it was very generic. This was 6+ years ago. With the latest updates, they become more specific, especially about which areas of the world my different ethnicities came from. I am 50% Jewish. This I always knew because my Dad's side of my family are pretty much 100% Ashkenazi Jewish. In the latest updates, they have narrowed it down to two groups of countries that are pretty much where my family has always thought we came from. I tested with Ancestry and 23&Me. I then uploaded the results from both tests to the other companies that allow one to do that. All of them give different results. However, they are getting closer and more specific.
was she north or south italian south italians are more of a mixture than north Italy remeber everywhere was colonized. indigenous is a global term.
Remember, that all ethnicity numbers are *_estimates_* . The programmers aren't trying to lie to you but they are trying to help you make sense of your DNA compared to their reference populations. Here are three videos that can help you understand the background of ethnicity results
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Good information!
Glad you think so!
Ancestry did not have Finland but my heritage has in my dna
It's possible that your percentage is small, or it's classified differently on each company's platform.
Okay so this explains why my African ancestry is lower on my heritage. There's more options there's more selection. I do notice that when the database is more options that I get more results. And this isn't really a shock. Because I always find it a little weird that on ancestry DNA sometimes I'll see the people in the way your family and the wade family for me is like four generations up or three generations up oh yes actually three generations up and they get South Asian often. South Asian and Central asian. But I get none of it. And I always wondered why do they have some and I have none? But then on my heritage I get nepalese. Which would explain. And my mother has nepalese. Actually slightly more than I do. I think ancestry DNA doesn't pick it up as much because maybe their reference panel isn't that strong and they don't have as many options. And I feel like ancestry DNA focuses way too much on europe. And that's not good for me because I don't have a lot of European heritage.
I love that you're trying to compare both companies and their percentages. I would however recommend you begin building the genetic family tree. Use your DNA matches to see where everyone is from. It becomes challenging in locations without records (but nearly everyone runs out of records). The great thing about DNA is that it awesome for confirming relationships with close relatives.
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@@FamilyHistoryFanatics I've actually tracked some of my family. All the way down to the 1860s. Then something happened. It was weird the people who were their parents were way too old to be their parents so I don't know who those people are. I don't think I'm related to them. So I don't really think I'm related to my family name. So that's why going further than that is a roadblock. Because I don't know who those kids parents are. I know I'm related to the kids. But I don't think I'm related to their parents. At least they're not their direct parents it doesn't seem. Especially since their parents changed in the senses in 1860 they had a certain set of parents and then in 1870 they changed their mother was a different mother. And both mothers were very old. Way too old to bear children.
My smallest percentage is 3/16 : 18.75 which is English, and on my family tree, the first one came in 1626, 2nd one of that line came here in 1635, how far back would that percentage go back, if that percentage would be 320 years, it takes me back, to 1636, and the 2nd of that line to come here from England
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I think My heritage is better and more precise .
Why is that?
My Heritage comes up with all of my communities being in Europe and does not show any of the American settler communities.
That's too bad. Be sure to give feedback to MyHeritage. They can't refine their groups without feedback and user input.
What is your opinion about the My True Ancestry company where you combine all your DNA kits results into 1 lump sum ethnicity result ? 😀
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Don't waste your money
But they’re so different. I got 99 percent scottish on ancestry, 1 percent irish. Weird but on my hertiage suddenly i am 15 percent scandvadian yet no trace on 23 and me and another one was saying 15 percent Eastern European
You can my wife should compare notes. This is why I actually try to steer people away from focusing on ethnicity results and instead focus on building their genealogical based and DNA supported family trees.
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I had chinese genetic group from hongkong interesting (its the only genetic group i had). But i had 0% chinese in my etnichity so weird. Why is this so? (Myheritage) (i know that my dad’s grandma was adopted from HK and shes chinese) does this make me part chinese at all. Even weirder i had a whopping 9.6% south asian instead in the ethnicity bit which surprised me the most (i know nobody who is south asian in my family). The majority percentage i had were Thai Vietnamese Cambodian (as predicted because thats where everyone frm my family is from) . I had some malay filipino indonesian too. I’ve heard on my grandma’s side she had a greatgrandfather or someone with turkic background maybe the south asian couldve been from there.
Nice comparison! Even though I don't agree with you on the winner ... ;-)
Fair enough! Why do you think MyHeritage is better?
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics I'm not saying MyHeritage is significantly better with regards to Genetic Ethnicity Groups, but in my opinion it's at least a tie. By awarding an equal number of points to the 5 subjects you have chosen to judge them on, I feel you are giving too much weight to several of these issues in relation to other issues I deem to be far more important, namely the number and accuracy of the genetic groups and the confidence level of the determinations both companies indicate as based on DNA samples from their members.
For example - you award the 2nd point to Ancestry "because of the specificity of the 'Who' that they provide". I think there is no noticeable difference between the two companies on that issue. Ancestry's descriptions of who they have put in these groups are vague and inaccurate at best and don't really provide anything extra for most of the groups. The same goes for the descriptions of the groups Ancestry gives, which you mention under "Timeline - Why". Again, vague descriptions at best and less significant than the number and accuracy of the divisions and their confidence level. The subjects Ancestry gets at almost half of their point on are mostly window dressing. Yes, Ancestry does a slightly better job than MyHeritage when you look at how they have packaged these subjects, but that's not the most important thing to me.
Ancestry gives me two genetic groups (2 areas in the Netherlands), one of which is doubtful. MyHeritage has assigned 7 genetic groups to me (all areas in the Netherlands), and those with the highest confidence level are spot on.
Also, for people like me who do not descend from immigrants to North America, Australia, New Zealand and Israel, tracking the movement of (distant) cousins to those areas (be it on a heat map or via tracking lines) is interesting, but it does not contribute very much to the search for their own ancestors, except in cases where those distant cousins can help you identify common ancestors you do not yet know about.
I appreciate the time you spent describing your thoughts.
I uploaded my Ancestry results to MyHeritage, and MyHeritage gave me 8% North African. As far as I know I have no African ancestry whatsoever, and none of the other companies I've tested with have indicated any. Is this just a fluke thing because they're interpreting another company's DNA file?
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You can get north african DNA if you have either iberian or italian ancestry.
My two tests were both wrong, but my heritage takes the biscuit for being inaccurate. According to them I’m not English at all, despite my father’s family being traceable in one small spot of England back 600 years. We know who everyone is in the family, thanks to my brother who has 6500 names on the family tree. Im not Scottish, or Scandinavian, or Italian, or Greek. Im thankful though for the holy grail of 0.9% Native American! Sadly, not true either.
I have just got my results back from my heritage and it's say 61.5 northern and central European and 38.5 Irish Scottish and Welsh, but yet my main high level genetic group is eastern European azkanazi Jew ? But yet my ethicnity is 0% azkanazi Jew. Can anyone shed any light on this
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@@FamilyHistoryFanatics yeah I have gathered that after looking into the results. It's still very confusing as I have a family tree on my mother's side that goes back 400 years and it's seem as if they all have lived in London or the surrounding areas. It's a mystery. Thanks for the reply.
Seems pretty much to me that the Ethnicity results are subject to the "it depends" category. In that the higher the volume of people tested being from certain high population areas of the globe the results appear to be more accurate
Great point. Yes. It depends is my saying time and again.
Genesis GEDMATCH is good to use.
I agree.
Gedmatch is awesome!
I've done both My Heritage and Ancestry DNA. There was one noticeable difference in the results. My Heritage showed I have 15 percent West Asian ancestry, while Ancestry DNA showed two percent Levant ancestry.
I'm not surprised. My wife's German and Scandinavian Ancestry is vastly different between the two platforms. Thus, I would recommend ignoring the ethnicity results and focus on building out your genetic family tree. Have you seen my playlist about beginning genetic genealogy tips? th-cam.com/play/PLcVx-GSCjcdmsw25mbI-wJin_9_9QQUzI.html
Any of these companies have 🇩🇰 Denmark?
Skandinavian. Here we unite bro
Both do,
Is better do the test in Ancestry and upload for free in Myheritage, so you can have your results in Both. I am Brazilian and the Matches in Myheritage are much better than Ancestry. Ancestry looks more accurate in my case, I have no Italians in my family and Myheritage says that I am 21% Italian and Ancestry says 0% , so I trust more in Ancestry. The Bad thing in Ancestry is that they have only 2 communities groups in Brazil, Brazil is Bigger that all Europe and only 2 groups its a shame .
To the first point (testing with Ancestry and transferring to MyHeritage) I agree completely.
Regarding the accuracy of the results, I still don't put that much faith in the ethnicity results. The reference populations for South American and the countries of origin for anything outside of England is very, very small. Thus, I'm highly skeptical of all estimates.
Totally agree on these two sites being a "real asset for solving brick wall family lines". I had worked on my family tree for over 40 years and it wasn't until DNA and these 2 sites came along that I was finally able to solve and locate the biological families of 2 of my GG Grandparents using the tools on both sites thereby finally having achieved correct biological families on all of my 16 GG Grandparent lines.
Read their policy before you do a tree with my heritage. Other people I don't know have made changes to my tree that I cannot change.
Did they change your tree or did they change your tree that aligns with your tree?
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics It doesn't matter to me my tree I do the changes not a stranger.
My heritage said I have 30% Iberian. 23&me and ancestry show 1% which matches mt tree
My wife has 30 % Scandinavian on MyHeritage and a small amount of this same ethnicity on other websites.
I don’t trust My Heritage. They have me at 44% English, but I’m 5+ generations into my family tree and have yet to come across any English ancestor. In addition, there have been no adoptions to my knowledge.
We are confused by a 33% Scandinavian percentage for Devon.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics devon uk? Ever hear of the vikings?
I goes way way back
Michelle - No, Devon my wife. On MyHeritage they have 33% Scandinavian and Ancestry has 5%.
I only vote for myHeritage, 0 likes given to Ancestry
Why? Simple reason really.
First kit from Ancestry came out late and when I did figure about it manually with no help from them it failed in their labs few weeks later. Second kit came on time, but again failed in their labs. I cancelled third kit and requested refund, they are very slow with refunding. It's mission impossible to give them fine by their standards sample to some people.
MyHeritage did my analysis of my sample fully in just couple weeks from the first attempt, because its taken with swabs from cheeks.
So all my votes goes to myHeritage, you dont want wait for three months like with Ancestry just to figure it failed in their labs
Ancestry didn't identify my Grandmother's Spanish background at all but My Heritage did and I am 19% Spanish. Ancestry didn't record the part of the South of England that all my Father's family came from for many generations. When they updated their results it finally showed. The overall findings were similar but the percentages were very different between the two.
My wife, Devon, has the same experience but in reverse. MyHeritage says she's more Scandinavian but in Ancestry, she has a better balance of British and German heritage. On paper, Ancestry is more accurate.
Updates on DNA Resuts are not 100% especially when you have done research and are very frustrated as you have no recourse to an explanation. All the companies suck whenso called sciences have advanced in only means they have gone backward.
Have they gone backward or have the over promised on what ethnicity estimates can or can not do?
ancestry is more accurate
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
10:05ish - there's one thing, and one thing *only* that made our family choose MH over Ancestry: Their tests are disability accessible. I did later reach out to Ancestry & spoke with several people including a certain, prominent genealogist of theirs, & was told by all of them, but I will quote the official company response not to single out any of them: "We understand that cheek scraping kits would be more accessible for disabled people and that spit tests effectively exclude people, but we have no plans to introduce those. We are happy with the kits we have". Told me everything I need to know about Ancestry. If it weren't for college and work (I'm studying for my licensing exam & doing some work experience), I wouldn't touch Ancestry with a bargepole. Sadly, they're the necessary evil.
My wife's aunt had a hard time spitting and she isn't disabled. It is something to consider when testing people.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics agreed. We're extremely lucky that GedMatch reads all the different chips, so there's no lack/restriction on matches because we tested with a (at that time) smaller company, but it's definitely an interesting stance from a company whose business is essentially people.
I was amazed at how really simple my MyHeritage cheek-sampling was!
My wife had to spend 10-15 mins. spitting into a bottle, for her 23andme test.
Seems a bit much, really.
I am completely happy with MyHeritage, and sorry Ancestry is almost useless.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
My heritage is total scam. Ancestry got mines right
How is it a scam? They use different reference sets and they have different algorithms. Since no one has shown they are accurate for everyone (or even what accurate means), I would expect them to be different.
its a total waste of money. im so disappointed
My Heritage was way more accurate than Ancestry, especially after they updated their databases they actually provided very accurate information about the ethnicity on my mothers side.
Ancestries results were 50% close
I am sorry, but that's truth
This is true based on your experience. I appreciate your thoughts. I do stand by the fact that it's not true for everyone. My wife is among many to find the ethnicity results to vary from company to company.
Na ancestry DNA seems to be more Accurate
MyHeritage is providing false information
How so?