I love the symbolism of the passive aggressive argument between Louis and Armand at the beginning about the painting and Louis choice to leave the space bare, which makes Armand uncomfortable the same way he finds being alone uncomfortable, his immediate desire is to replace what's been lost while Louis is content to leave it be. very interesting character moment imo
Now we know why Lestat tried to keep Louis and Claudia from seeking other vampires. There's a reason he called them "vicious" and a "society of monsters".
@@-Arkin33 I get that nobody wants their partner to leave them but it's kind of different here because we know Lestat's biggest fear is abandonment or perceived abandonment, so he'll do and say things to make Louis not want to leave him. Claudia even points it out in S1 EP5 when she asks Louis to leave with her, she pointed out that Lestat says things that will make Louis scared to leave him, some of those things are true like the vamps in Europe being vicious but the truth is also used as manipulation. Also, him not wanting Louis to get hurt by other vampires is valid but he also hurt Louis , so he doesn't get a point from me for that.
@@-Arkin33 The comment I replied to said " Now we know why Lestat didn't want them to meet other vampires". You and many others interpreted that comment to mean the real reason Lestat wanted Louis & Claudia to not meet other vampires was for their own protection. Nothing wrong with thinking that and I agreed it was definitely a reason but definitely not the only reason. You replied to my comment to argue that it was definitely for their protection, no one disagreed with you, I just pointed out how even if that were true, Lestat also didn't want Louis to leave him and used that truth to manipulate him. There's nothing wrong with me explaining how Lestat's fear of abandonment plays into him not wanting Louis to find other vampires, it's not just some irrelevant explanation of who Lestat is. The same way you explained the whole plot of S2 ( that we all watched) regarding the coven and their relationship to Lestat and Armand to get your point across. Saying that Lestat said all those things about other vampires so that Louis isn't harmed IS giving him props/points. Great of him to have warned them, but it doesn't make it the main priority of Lestat's to make sure Louis isn't hurt. Even bringing up Lestat hurting Louis is relevant here to point out that he can't say his priority is to make sure Louis doesn't get hurt when he has hurt Louis himself. You could have stated your points/arguments without being condescending or rude.
@@-Arkin33 You clearly don't intend on having a respectful discussion where we can both argue our points without being shitty towards each other, and kudos to you for that, but I'm not interested in that kind of discussion. You call me insensitive and a child but you're the one who is hooting and hollering and throwing insults instead of giving arguments for your stance in a mature way. We can agree to disagree and keep it moving. Bye.
If this was a happy show, that restaurant scene with Louis, Claudia, Armand and Madeleine would have been a lovely ending...but no this is Interview with the Vampire, therefore pain is the only answer 😭 Madeleine's turning was beautiful though! She is so perfect for Claudia and I'm glad Claudia at least gets to have that after all the shit she's went through. Armand is fascinating truly because like you said he's old and powerful as hell and the LEADER of this coven for hundreds of years, it's wild that he's so scared of them. Lestat showing up at the end was the gag of the century...one thing about Lestat he lives for the drama. Can't wait for your reactions to these final 2 episodes!
The scene where Claudia saves Madeline and reveals her vampire nature to her was shot similar to the scene where Lestat kills the priests and reveals himself to be a vampire in the first season. The sudden violence, and then Madeline and Louis finding Claudia and Lestat bent over their victims feeding. I think the play Waiting for Guido was supposed to be kind of suggesting that Sam was the play write Samual Beckett, who wrote Waiting for Gadot. I love your reaction videos. I can't wait to watch the last two of the season.
I've rewatched this show so many times and never made the connection between the Lestat/Louis and Claudia/Madeline thing, great catch. I love how gentle Claudia was with Madeline during that horrific scene. That whole scene is one of my favourite in the whole show
Madeleine is not a Nazi. During the German occupation, she met a young German soldier who was lonely. This happened a lot during the war. Life was horrible. People were dying from starvation. Some gave in to their occupiers in order to survive. Madeleine's sister and parents died from an outbreak before the war touched down in France.
Without question, THE best reaction to Armand's betrayal and the last minute appearance of the one and only Lestat de Lioncourt!!! I love your reactions, listening to your theories, and the dry humour! To say I'm REALLY looking forward to your next two reactions, is an understatement!! Great job!
so funfact, the iwtv intro is an orchestra tuning their instruments and then transitioning into horror. As a orchestra kid, it always brings me nostalgia when i watch the show
your reaction to armand's betrayal and lestat's appearance are perfect reasons to why the interview with the vampire series can be such a fun first entrance to the vampire chronicles. you can totally dive into both the book series and movies if you want after seeing these first two seasons.
The series that became better than the book and movie it was based one. Anne Rice would have loved this. As a fan of the movie and of the books. This show has been on my radar for a while. I never thought we would be here. So many shows (and books) get stuck in limbo. It is so refreshing to see it work out better than I could have imagined. There was a time that Anne Stopped writing books in the vampire chronicles series.. Then she came back to the world and gave us 3 more. I hope this series is able to adapt all her books and continue from there. Really looking forward for whats to come.
And to think we get a whole season to watch Sam Reid in arguably one of best vampire tales ever written for The Vampire Lestat. Omg!! The lestat season 3 teaser is so deceiving imo. Seems fun, campy ( intentionally), there is dark shit in his tale.
Some of the easter eggs I love about this series... like the appearance of Jean-Paul Sarte in episode 2 in the cafe when they are discussing existance (not unlike the appearance of Jelly Roll Morton in season 1)... also the "pretentious play" they are performing is an obvious take-off of "Waiting for Godot" by Samual Beckett... in this one they are waIting for Guido... and the vampire playwright's name is... Sam.
Daniel’s “throwaway” line about his drink needing more vermouth was a dig at Armand who previously said that Lestat left him with a lingering taste of vermouth. In effect, he was saying you need a little more Lestat here.
I’ve watched your reactions to these episodes multiple times now, it just brings me so much joy, I had to tell you that. This show is so amazing, I love watching people who are as passionate about it as I am. Sending love to both of you!! ❤👏
Your reactions to this episode perfectly mirrored my own lol. Armand acting like he's powerless will always be like, give me a damn break. Can't wait for you guys to see the last two episodes.😮💨
Armand was given a choice. But his choice was NOT Louis. edit:)) I've watched the show how many times. But it still gives me CHILLS each time Lestat was shown BACK at the Theatre!
You guys should watch the tv show From. I think you’d both enjoy it a lot and it’s right up your alley. Plus it would be nice to see both your reactions and commentary when watching it. Hope all is well with you both and keep it up. My wife and I watch your channel literally all week long.
The horrible play -- "Enduring for Guido" -- is a shoutout to the very famous absurdist play "Waiting for Godot," by Samuel Barclay Beckett (there are theories that the vampire Sam is supposed to be him).
Madeleine is reading Louis wrong: "why don't you tell him you love him?", is referring to Lestat,... because Louis did tell Armand he loved him at the apartment (Dreamstat laughing at them)............
I understand Armand. He is faced with a difficult decision. Betray his coven (which has been his family for many years) or support Louis (a man who has participated in the murder of his creator and who all this time did not seem sure he wanted a relationship). Armand is very powerful but his fear of abandonment and loneliness makes him weak.
The thing with Armand is that he is a VERY complex and VERY flawed character. He's just as much as a villian as all the other characters are but it's just as wrong to villianize him as it is to victimize him. As Anne said herself, Armand is one of the most wounded characters she wrote, a completely traumatized and lost individual whose brain is working... well, quite different. He constantly switches between the lonely child who's fear of abandonment is so big that he'd rather let himself abused than go away (let's not forget louis' gaining control over Armand by calling him by the name Armand had when he was forced into child prostitution), the "nurse" who gives up EVERYTHING for his loved ones and ends up "serving" them, as this is the only way Armand has learned how to love, and the ruthless, manipulative gremlin who betrays his loved ones, creates "prisons" of manipulation and gaslight to keep the ones he loves around. Armand is like a powder keg, and whenever he is triggered, everything explodes and this quiet, observing character does the most f*cked up sh*t (look at ep 5). He's full of contradictions and this is what makes his character so interesting. He CANNOT be alone and always searches for someone or something he can cling onto (Louis, Lestat, the coven, the children of darkness), and when he loses it or fears to lose it, he explodes and becomes the gremlin again. I think it has something to do that Armand can't sit with himself. he even told Louis, he has completely lost his self, he does not know who he is anymore (which is actually sad, i mean the concepts of Arun, Amadeo, Armand exist for a reason), and to prevent feeling this loneliness, this pain (Marius said in tvl that Armands whole existence is suffering), he searches for some kind of light in other people that he himself can never see. And he does not realize that with his way of loving (which was taught btw), he extinguishs the spark these other people have about them and that he is pulling them into the same dark hole he exists in. This is not meant to excuse his doings, Armand is a vicious and self-centered villian who does not shy away from betrayal, m*rder, gaslight and stalking (like all vampires in this universe), BUT it's too easy to paint him as THE villian, when this brilliantly written character is SO MUCH MORE.
It's not important in any respect other than the usual unreliable narrator game and my own curiosity, but I still don't 100% trust that Claudia thanked Armand for never treating her like a child and something else innocuous Armand claims she said next episode. It could just be a loving jab at Louis, but that just sounds far too scripted a remark, especially considering the several months he had her living solely in a baby doll outfit.
I actually feel kinda bad for Armand. He did something terrible but it's certainly no worse than anything Lestat did, and Armand had more reason for his actions than Lestat did - his coven of hundreds of years was going to kill him for siding with Louis (who honestly acted like he didn't care much for him or a relationship). I know we're on Louis' side since he's the main character but I can't really blame Armand. I'd pick the people I'd bonded with for hundreds of years too over Louis. And he did warn Louis over and over the entire season that the coven wanted to kill him and he couldn't keep them under control for long and told Louis to run.
That's what I thought as well. I know everyone wants to ship Louis and Lestats toxic relationship (and I do too lol) so it's easy to hate Armand for coming in the middle of it, but I kinda like him. 😅 Assad is a great actor too!
Alot of this is just simply wrong. And unfortunately what happens when brainwashing and years of gaslighting and manipulation, does. It's unfortunate that a rather alarming number of viewers are falling from it, when we're watching it from outside, and being shown the truth, as we go. But, it is what it is.
@Celebrian666 Totally agree. It's in their very nature, to prey on, take, consume. And alot of people forget the living forever part. When you could potentionally live for thousands of years, how do you gage what actually matters. For example, you kill 500ppl, over a span of just one year. In just 100yrs, a few 100yrs. It's not gonna matter, no one who even remembers will still be alive. If any of it was documented, it's history that not many will know or even believe. Time eats history. All it leaves is the bones, and sometimes not even that... when you live for hundreds of years, how long can the effects of trauma last. How long can you stay mad at someone, how long will it really take to forgive someone, for some horrible thing they did, say 60, 200, 900 years ago. Alot of people are wholly incapable of even considering that, taking that into account. In reflection, introspection, and just conversation about this Vampires and their relationships. Most humans don't even get 80yrs, very few get 100. And while alot of Vampires can't even make it to 100. A fair amount of them outlive even the oldest human. Most of them live long enough to see the world literally change. To a creature like that, what would even be considered "toxic". To a "monster" that literally has to take life, has to essentially become death, just to live. What would "evil" look like to them. To a being that can heal things like a broken spine and shattered skull, who potentionally can heal being burned alive, drowned, hung, etc. What would they consider "abuse", what would they consider "violence", etc...
your reaction when lestat appeared 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I got chills too! The real Lestat has a different type of energy then dreamstat. Sam Reid is sucha a great actor.
I love the symbolism of the passive aggressive argument between Louis and Armand at the beginning about the painting and Louis choice to leave the space bare, which makes Armand uncomfortable the same way he finds being alone uncomfortable, his immediate desire is to replace what's been lost while Louis is content to leave it be. very interesting character moment imo
Hugging you both in advance. See you guys next episode
Now we know why Lestat tried to keep Louis and Claudia from seeking other vampires. There's a reason he called them "vicious" and a "society of monsters".
They're vicious alright but it isn't the only reason he didn't want them to seek out other vampires, he didn't want Louis to leave him.
@@-Arkin33 I get that nobody wants their partner to leave them but it's kind of different here because we know Lestat's biggest fear is abandonment or perceived abandonment, so he'll do and say things to make Louis not want to leave him. Claudia even points it out in S1 EP5 when she asks Louis to leave with her, she pointed out that Lestat says things that will make Louis scared to leave him, some of those things are true like the vamps in Europe being vicious but the truth is also used as manipulation.
Also, him not wanting Louis to get hurt by other vampires is valid but he also hurt Louis , so he doesn't get a point from me for that.
@@-Arkin33 The comment I replied to said " Now we know why Lestat didn't want them to meet other vampires". You and many others interpreted that comment to mean the real reason Lestat wanted Louis & Claudia to not meet other vampires was for their own protection. Nothing wrong with thinking that and I agreed it was definitely a reason but definitely not the only reason. You replied to my comment to argue that it was definitely for their protection, no one disagreed with you, I just pointed out how even if that were true, Lestat also didn't want Louis to leave him and used that truth to manipulate him.
There's nothing wrong with me explaining how Lestat's fear of abandonment plays into him not wanting Louis to find other vampires, it's not just some irrelevant explanation of who Lestat is. The same way you explained the whole plot of S2 ( that we all watched) regarding the coven and their relationship to Lestat and Armand to get your point across.
Saying that Lestat said all those things about other vampires so that Louis isn't harmed IS giving him props/points. Great of him to have warned them, but it doesn't make it the main priority of Lestat's to make sure Louis isn't hurt. Even bringing up Lestat hurting Louis is relevant here to point out that he can't say his priority is to make sure Louis doesn't get hurt when he has hurt Louis himself.
You could have stated your points/arguments without being condescending or rude.
@@-Arkin33 You clearly don't intend on having a respectful discussion where we can both argue our points without being shitty towards each other, and kudos to you for that, but I'm not interested in that kind of discussion. You call me insensitive and a child but you're the one who is hooting and hollering and throwing insults instead of giving arguments for your stance in a mature way. We can agree to disagree and keep it moving. Bye.
If this was a happy show, that restaurant scene with Louis, Claudia, Armand and Madeleine would have been a lovely ending...but no this is Interview with the Vampire, therefore pain is the only answer 😭
Madeleine's turning was beautiful though! She is so perfect for Claudia and I'm glad Claudia at least gets to have that after all the shit she's went through.
Armand is fascinating truly because like you said he's old and powerful as hell and the LEADER of this coven for hundreds of years, it's wild that he's so scared of them.
Lestat showing up at the end was the gag of the century...one thing about Lestat he lives for the drama.
Can't wait for your reactions to these final 2 episodes!
The scene where Claudia saves Madeline and reveals her vampire nature to her was shot similar to the scene where Lestat kills the priests and reveals himself to be a vampire in the first season. The sudden violence, and then Madeline and Louis finding Claudia and Lestat bent over their victims feeding.
I think the play Waiting for Guido was supposed to be kind of suggesting that Sam was the play write Samual Beckett, who wrote Waiting for Gadot.
I love your reaction videos. I can't wait to watch the last two of the season.
I've rewatched this show so many times and never made the connection between the Lestat/Louis and Claudia/Madeline thing, great catch. I love how gentle Claudia was with Madeline during that horrific scene. That whole scene is one of my favourite in the whole show
Madeleine is not a Nazi. During the German occupation, she met a young German soldier who was lonely. This happened a lot during the war. Life was horrible. People were dying from starvation. Some gave in to their occupiers in order to survive.
Madeleine's sister and parents died from an outbreak before the war touched down in France.
she clearly explained all this to claudia in a scene but they still thinks she is a nazi lol
Cody just checked himself in the video saying maybe I should stop calling her a nazi.
He knows that
Without question, THE best reaction to Armand's betrayal and the last minute appearance of the one and only Lestat de Lioncourt!!! I love your reactions, listening to your theories, and the dry humour! To say I'm REALLY looking forward to your next two reactions, is an understatement!! Great job!
Get ready to be broken, you should watch the last two episodes together to react to everything 😂
“He’s whiny and gave up immediately so he’s a b***h too” cracked me up. 🤣
so funfact, the iwtv intro is an orchestra tuning their instruments and then transitioning into horror. As a orchestra kid, it always brings me nostalgia when i watch the show
your reaction to armand's betrayal and lestat's appearance are perfect reasons to why the interview with the vampire series can be such a fun first entrance to the vampire chronicles. you can totally dive into both the book series and movies if you want after seeing these first two seasons.
The report of the vampires hanging off the Eifel Tower was the coven using the height and their collective voice to find and contact Lestat.
wouldnt the paris ground be more closer to new orleans than the sky?
The series that became better than the book and movie it was based one. Anne Rice would have loved this.
As a fan of the movie and of the books. This show has been on my radar for a while. I never thought we would be here. So many shows (and books) get stuck in limbo. It is so refreshing to see it work out better than I could have imagined.
There was a time that Anne Stopped writing books in the vampire chronicles series.. Then she came back to the world and gave us 3 more. I hope this series is able to adapt all her books and continue from there. Really looking forward for whats to come.
14:18 you’re so real for this, I’d watch a whole show of just them being happy. I adore them so much
We learn something very important that Armand has never made a vampire.
My great great grandma ate apples with a little teaspoon, and told the kids to do the same when their tummies were upset. May be a cultural thing.
Was she French?
"That's what Armand said" I could not stop laughing 😂
That was so funny and Bridget not even reacting to it, if she heard, makes it even better.
😂❤ awesome reaction. Yalls reaction to Lestat same as mine. Like yo, there's no crime because he isn't dead.
That was everyone's reaction when Lestat entered!!
And to think we get a whole season to watch Sam Reid in arguably one of best vampire tales ever written for The Vampire Lestat. Omg!!
The lestat season 3 teaser is so deceiving imo. Seems fun, campy ( intentionally), there is dark shit in his tale.
Folks who don't stay to the end are missing the most epic 1-minute IWTV rant I've ever heard! Thanks, Cody!
lestat's entrance is outrageous
Imagine having immortality and dying before you turn 100 because everyone hates you omg LOL
Watch epi 7&8 together because it was THAT GOOD!! 😭😭
The way we all reacted when we got the Lestat reveal in the end!
27:15 i can't but remember how Santiago said to keep the sacrifices downstage until 10 minutes before showtime
Some of the easter eggs I love about this series... like the appearance of Jean-Paul Sarte in episode 2 in the cafe when they are discussing existance (not unlike the appearance of Jelly Roll Morton in season 1)... also the "pretentious play" they are performing is an obvious take-off of "Waiting for Godot" by Samual Beckett... in this one they are waIting for Guido... and the vampire playwright's name is... Sam.
Daniel’s “throwaway” line about his drink needing more vermouth was a dig at Armand who previously said that Lestat left him with a lingering taste of vermouth. In effect, he was saying you need a little more Lestat here.
And maybe saying something nice about Armand's ability to provide a solid drink. It can be both! 😆
Yeeeah, you gotta stop calling Madeleine the "Nazi lady"
Your reaction to when Lestat appeared had me grinning ear to ear and cackling
I’ve watched your reactions to these episodes multiple times now, it just brings me so much joy, I had to tell you that. This show is so amazing, I love watching people who are as passionate about it as I am. Sending love to both of you!! ❤👏
The coven stole the lens from the observatory telescope that night to use during the trial. It's all bad.
The next two episodes are peak television. I also screamed when they showed Lestat
the impression was on point!!!
“What is Lestat gonna say??”
Oh boy you’re gonna find out lol
our collective scream, shout, excitement, and terror of lestat appearing!
Your reactions are so perfect. Impatiently waiting for the next one!
"Armand, you piece of shit."- me in every episode. 🤷♀
Your reactions to this episode perfectly mirrored my own lol. Armand acting like he's powerless will always be like, give me a damn break. Can't wait for you guys to see the last two episodes.😮💨
😊 perfect timing
Episode 7 is my favorite out of the whole series (so far).
Not me and Cody wearing the same Art the Clown shirt!
Bridget screaming the intro is so funny😂😂😂. And you recognised RJ as Andy from Weeds, I'm so happy someone else watched that crazy show😂.
What a good point about the abbreviated lives of many vampires!
I loved seeing your REAL reactions! Buckle up for the last two -- SERIOUSLY.
Armand was given a choice. But his choice was NOT Louis.
edit:)) I've watched the show how many times. But it still gives me CHILLS each time Lestat was shown BACK at the Theatre!
You guys should watch the tv show From. I think you’d both enjoy it a lot and it’s right up your alley. Plus it would be nice to see both your reactions and commentary when watching it. Hope all is well with you both and keep it up. My wife and I watch your channel literally all week long.
Omg yes!
people reacting to lestat being there is always hilarious
15:51 you need to stop making me laugh during suspenseful moments💀 (don’t)
Loving this, excited for the finale!
The horrible play -- "Enduring for Guido" -- is a shoutout to the very famous absurdist play "Waiting for Godot," by Samuel Barclay Beckett (there are theories that the vampire Sam is supposed to be him).
yaaaaaaaay🥰🥰🥰
30:31 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
omggg so excited for next episode!!!
The reactions to lestat has me cackling AHAHAHA
Next episode is crazy 😭😭
Your reaction when HE appeared lmfaoooooo
good luck fellas
KMMFSL at “Stop it, not Lemmiwinks!”
0:41 when the brownies start to hit.
"Not Lemmiwinks." 😆
❤
Madeleine is reading Louis wrong: "why don't you tell him you love him?", is referring to Lestat,... because Louis did tell Armand he loved him at the apartment (Dreamstat laughing at them)............
OMG that's a great catch and we never saw Louis tell Lestat he loved him in both seasons. Oh, you're good.
Y’all ain’t seen nothing!☕️
Coconut water. Gross. Lol.
You guys need to watch elvira mistress of the dark please
I understand Armand. He is faced with a difficult decision. Betray his coven (which has been his family for many years) or support Louis (a man who has participated in the murder of his creator and who all this time did not seem sure he wanted a relationship). Armand is very powerful but his fear of abandonment and loneliness makes him weak.
Yeah I honestly have a lot of sympathy for him. He warned louis over and over he was losing control of the coven and Louis needed to flee too.
I've rewatched the entire show and Armand has grown on me each time. I hope we see more of him and his past in season 3!
Oh nooo
Armand's gaslighting is so good that the audience and his fan base believe in him ijbol
The thing with Armand is that he is a VERY complex and VERY flawed character. He's just as much as a villian as all the other characters are but it's just as wrong to villianize him as it is to victimize him. As Anne said herself, Armand is one of the most wounded characters she wrote, a completely traumatized and lost individual whose brain is working... well, quite different. He constantly switches between the lonely child who's fear of abandonment is so big that he'd rather let himself abused than go away (let's not forget louis' gaining control over Armand by calling him by the name Armand had when he was forced into child prostitution), the "nurse" who gives up EVERYTHING for his loved ones and ends up "serving" them, as this is the only way Armand has learned how to love, and the ruthless, manipulative gremlin who betrays his loved ones, creates "prisons" of manipulation and gaslight to keep the ones he loves around. Armand is like a powder keg, and whenever he is triggered, everything explodes and this quiet, observing character does the most f*cked up sh*t (look at ep 5). He's full of contradictions and this is what makes his character so interesting. He CANNOT be alone and always searches for someone or something he can cling onto (Louis, Lestat, the coven, the children of darkness), and when he loses it or fears to lose it, he explodes and becomes the gremlin again. I think it has something to do that Armand can't sit with himself. he even told Louis, he has completely lost his self, he does not know who he is anymore (which is actually sad, i mean the concepts of Arun, Amadeo, Armand exist for a reason), and to prevent feeling this loneliness, this pain (Marius said in tvl that Armands whole existence is suffering), he searches for some kind of light in other people that he himself can never see. And he does not realize that with his way of loving (which was taught btw), he extinguishs the spark these other people have about them and that he is pulling them into the same dark hole he exists in. This is not meant to excuse his doings, Armand is a vicious and self-centered villian who does not shy away from betrayal, m*rder, gaslight and stalking (like all vampires in this universe), BUT it's too easy to paint him as THE villian, when this brilliantly written character is SO MUCH MORE.
@@alinasophie7645You have encapsulated the essence of the character perfectly. I love the complexity of Armand.
It's not important in any respect other than the usual unreliable narrator game and my own curiosity, but I still don't 100% trust that Claudia thanked Armand for never treating her like a child and something else innocuous Armand claims she said next episode. It could just be a loving jab at Louis, but that just sounds far too scripted a remark, especially considering the several months he had her living solely in a baby doll outfit.
Shes not a nazi
I actually feel kinda bad for Armand. He did something terrible but it's certainly no worse than anything Lestat did, and Armand had more reason for his actions than Lestat did - his coven of hundreds of years was going to kill him for siding with Louis (who honestly acted like he didn't care much for him or a relationship). I know we're on Louis' side since he's the main character but I can't really blame Armand. I'd pick the people I'd bonded with for hundreds of years too over Louis. And he did warn Louis over and over the entire season that the coven wanted to kill him and he couldn't keep them under control for long and told Louis to run.
That's what I thought as well. I know everyone wants to ship Louis and Lestats toxic relationship (and I do too lol) so it's easy to hate Armand for coming in the middle of it, but I kinda like him. 😅 Assad is a great actor too!
Alot of this is just simply wrong. And unfortunately what happens when brainwashing and years of gaslighting and manipulation, does. It's unfortunate that a rather alarming number of viewers are falling from it, when we're watching it from outside, and being shown the truth, as we go. But, it is what it is.
Honestly I'm not sure vampires can have nontoxic relationships. They consume everything.
@Celebrian666 Totally agree. It's in their very nature, to prey on, take, consume. And alot of people forget the living forever part. When you could potentionally live for thousands of years, how do you gage what actually matters. For example, you kill 500ppl, over a span of just one year. In just 100yrs, a few 100yrs. It's not gonna matter, no one who even remembers will still be alive. If any of it was documented, it's history that not many will know or even believe. Time eats history. All it leaves is the bones, and sometimes not even that... when you live for hundreds of years, how long can the effects of trauma last. How long can you stay mad at someone, how long will it really take to forgive someone, for some horrible thing they did, say 60, 200, 900 years ago.
Alot of people are wholly incapable of even considering that, taking that into account. In reflection, introspection, and just conversation about this Vampires and their relationships. Most humans don't even get 80yrs, very few get 100. And while alot of Vampires can't even make it to 100. A fair amount of them outlive even the oldest human. Most of them live long enough to see the world literally change. To a creature like that, what would even be considered "toxic". To a "monster" that literally has to take life, has to essentially become death, just to live. What would "evil" look like to them. To a being that can heal things like a broken spine and shattered skull, who potentionally can heal being burned alive, drowned, hung, etc. What would they consider "abuse", what would they consider "violence", etc...