Forza 7 : Ford vs Ferrari Recreation!!

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  • Ford vs Ferrari's Trailer dropped last week and that got me thinking! Why don't we try Forza 7 Ford vs Ferrari to see what would happen in the game during the 24 Hours of Le Mans! Subscribe for more Forza 7 Gameplay, Online Racing, Drifting, Forza 7 Customization and more!
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  • @AR12Gaming
    @AR12Gaming  5 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    Putting a pause in the Forza Horizon 4 LEGO Gameplay today but we'll be back tomorrow starting our LEGO Let's Play! Got a bunch of secret info too coming ;)
    Oh and yes we're having an AR12 Meetup in London (info in description)! Come say Hi to me and get free merch

    • @Grismuckbangs
      @Grismuckbangs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hi nick

    • @Grismuckbangs
      @Grismuckbangs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i even posted before u ps love ur vids

    • @aliciamorehead5885
      @aliciamorehead5885 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was the 269 like !!!!!😀😀😀😁😁😁😁😁

    • @skilfulcargo5394
      @skilfulcargo5394 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i'm only new to forza but is the lego expansion free?? please reply🙃

    • @patti-iced2265
      @patti-iced2265 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sub to nick for everyday ep for forza lego

  • @baguette2816
    @baguette2816 4 ปีที่แล้ว +414

    “It was bruce mclaren that was actually driving the car the won”
    Well yes but actually no

    • @Calebnelson24
      @Calebnelson24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +117

      Yeah he won on Technicality. Ken won in my heart

    • @uremqpogprvu1975
      @uremqpogprvu1975 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yea same

    • @sassell3302
      @sassell3302 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Agree ken won and got beat on a practicality time

    • @tmcrk8972
      @tmcrk8972 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Ken miles

    • @borbune2168
      @borbune2168 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It was a nice film

  • @biggussdickuss5184
    @biggussdickuss5184 5 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    Nick: Its time to unleash the Australian
    Also Nick fun fact, Bruce McLaren ( a kiwi) actually drove the gt40

    • @bouncingshot
      @bouncingshot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      didn't know birds drove high powered race cars

    • @joegray6228
      @joegray6228 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      and ken miles actually won the race

    • @joshuarwashere1
      @joshuarwashere1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joe Gray well I felt like he was but he didn’t sadly claret did because he put more power near the line and passed the fords by like a couple feet

    • @im.c.m676
      @im.c.m676 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joshuarwashere1 bruh... The people just made up an excuse like mclaren starting further back

  • @lisaread6211
    @lisaread6211 5 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    Bruce McLaren is from new Zealand. Not Australia.

    • @kristianbubanov
      @kristianbubanov 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He's talking about Daniel Ricciardo

    • @ralfcano2765
      @ralfcano2765 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Alex Nguyen hahahahahahaha

    • @Chrbak94
      @Chrbak94 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Potato potardo :P

  • @Legalis_R
    @Legalis_R 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Wait, what about Ken Miles' ford? He only lost because he slowed down for the other two fords to do a picture finish without realizing Bruce would've won for starting behind Ken's Ford.

    • @immortalson21
      @immortalson21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yea thats what im saying smh! 😣

    • @Supergamer4594-ff2fo
      @Supergamer4594-ff2fo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah that rule back in the day was incredibly stupid.

    • @FatCat2007
      @FatCat2007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      R.I.P ken miles tho

  • @Ben-cx5qp
    @Ben-cx5qp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +171

    The Ferrari was not that fast irl. It capped out at like 180 but had way better handling than the ford.

    • @lostgamer9614
      @lostgamer9614 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It was, it could hit 200mph

    • @thecarwithinternetaccess7952
      @thecarwithinternetaccess7952 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Lost Gamer96 that’s because the one that was in the race was the P33 not the P34

    • @diegopuijk9803
      @diegopuijk9803 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Bad handling, in classic american style

    • @Ben-cx5qp
      @Ben-cx5qp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@lostgamer9614 the Ferrari P4 couldn't do 200, but the GT40 could. That's what gave it an advantage.

    • @Ben-cx5qp
      @Ben-cx5qp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@diegopuijk9803 it still handled well for the time but the Ferrari was lighter, and lower to the ground. Enzo thought that would allow it to win but he was wrong.

  • @tonycorona692
    @tonycorona692 5 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Bruce McLaren drove the car just one of the 4 years, also more importantly, HE ISN'T AUSTRALIAN HE'S FROM NEW ZEALAND

    • @TopGear25S
      @TopGear25S 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      NO, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT HE SHOULDN'T HAVE WON!!!!!

    • @baydz9133
      @baydz9133 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Finally someone who is speaking CORRECT facts

    • @mk1davo380
      @mk1davo380 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im Australian

    • @bigsimpin5230
      @bigsimpin5230 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      KIWISSS

    • @ryans9198
      @ryans9198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same thing

  • @Wolfss
    @Wolfss 5 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    That Porsche was one of the slowest things i've ever driven lol, only time Nick will beat me :P

    • @thecarwithinternetaccess7952
      @thecarwithinternetaccess7952 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It’s 10 mph faster than my mom’s 2005 minivan

    • @boomkittyFX
      @boomkittyFX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      still faster than dad getting the milk

    • @Supergamer4594-ff2fo
      @Supergamer4594-ff2fo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even if it’s still slow, I would still drive it. And yes I have it, but I had someone else’s tune on it.

    • @olliewinslow7600
      @olliewinslow7600 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Supergamer4594-ff2fo I have the r class time where it goes like 270 for Lemans

    • @Supergamer4594-ff2fo
      @Supergamer4594-ff2fo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@olliewinslow7600 awesome!

  • @landoncook4529
    @landoncook4529 5 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Nick: drives into the tire wall
    Also nick: "it killed itself"

  • @speedy7892
    @speedy7892 5 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Side note: My Metal Fab teacher in college actually helped with the restoration of the GT40 that won Le Mans in 1966

    • @brettcarlow5779
      @brettcarlow5779 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Speedy damn that’s cool

    • @Ayuraos
      @Ayuraos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cool dat but I just want to point this out, nobody will sub to you if you submit to Hasbro lol.

    • @samueledwards2734
      @samueledwards2734 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      my great uncle built the first mclaren f1 car

  • @revheadcorrado5701
    @revheadcorrado5701 5 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Ford V ferrari IDEA
    Falcon Speedway. Nascar-ish race.
    Any Ford, Any Ferrari. Max S1

  • @starwarso3123
    @starwarso3123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    You should do this again for charity but make it 24 hours

  • @N4SCARfaN
    @N4SCARfaN 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Well, the Porsche’s finished 4-5-6 at Le Mans because the ones in the game are road cars.

    • @rmiah
      @rmiah 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      not to mention they were a complete different class than the fords and ferraris

    • @imsecond4094
      @imsecond4094 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup

  • @benz.1637
    @benz.1637 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    The 30 seconds of Le Mans: Nick's sexlife (hope i was fazt enough lol)

  • @minutelogic4
    @minutelogic4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I don't know why but when watch others drive cars in forza it makes me uneasy, I guess I am just use to how I drive.

  • @mudkip1661
    @mudkip1661 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    “The Bloody Door, Wont Close!” - Ken miles (Le mans 66)

    • @aidenpearce1330
      @aidenpearce1330 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Should’ve had that livery in the rwce

    • @tuckersautter1832
      @tuckersautter1832 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aidenpearce1330 you can download it

  • @faizaanahmed1540
    @faizaanahmed1540 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Best rivalry in history?... Feel free to argue differently

  • @Avetho
    @Avetho 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I heard you say "caution" and my brain went "Caution, rogue robots. Caution, rogue robots." Thanks Wall-E.

    • @tandy2912
      @tandy2912 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      A man of culture i see 😂👌

  • @johnschouten8117
    @johnschouten8117 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Bruce McLean, and Chris amon were both from New Zealand, the shape of the mclearn badge is the shape of a kiwis (roughly)

  • @belghithwadie3065
    @belghithwadie3065 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    nick "makes a 30 min le mans race"
    24 hours of le mans : am i a joke to you ...

    • @bouncingshot
      @bouncingshot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I guess 30 minutes of lemans is a thing now

  • @maybewellok
    @maybewellok 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Who would win?
    A dead meme
    Vs
    A guy that always says "that's a dead meme"

  • @nathanstafford3853
    @nathanstafford3853 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Can we have weekly timed races please? Loved every second of it

    • @tylerkuboushek4395
      @tylerkuboushek4395 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nathan Stafford yeah the weekend after this is the 24hr at the Norschlife so yeah maybe some more endurance type stuff

  • @roberttgdavis
    @roberttgdavis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    He's from NZ, AUS and NZ are very different olsves.

  • @tabaksmozaiekvirus1715
    @tabaksmozaiekvirus1715 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved the 1969 Le Mans, legendary start by jacky Ickx by walking to his car and still winning.

  • @chrisvarone5211
    @chrisvarone5211 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Youu and Ramon make me laugh so much witch makes my Day

  • @that_dude_with_the_torino1171
    @that_dude_with_the_torino1171 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    IT WAS KEN MILES THAT WON DAMMIT

  • @gryy4361
    @gryy4361 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I watched this live
    And it was hella fun

    • @FK284
      @FK284 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      XxXFaddishApolloXxX - Glad Matter same

  • @zizikanaan2353
    @zizikanaan2353 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was disappointed shelby didnt say "ma names carrol shelby, and speed is my buisness!" However this was still the best movie I have ever seen

    • @conradbenford6087
      @conradbenford6087 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its performance is my business

    • @s1mplyevan461
      @s1mplyevan461 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *“My names Carroll Shelby, and performance is my business”*

  • @cherrytomatofacegaming1496
    @cherrytomatofacegaming1496 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was in this one, got last but we won’t talk about that.
    It was fun!

  • @cool2frog
    @cool2frog 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do a Ford vs Ferrari in fh4 with 3 races. 1 with old ford and old Ferrari, 2 with 2005-2006 Ford GT and comparable Ferrari, and 3 with newest Ford GT and comparable Ferrari! That would be so freaking cool!

  • @chefbgordon8892
    @chefbgordon8892 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It’s not just about the car, it’s about how well he drives the car

  • @alexbryant5138
    @alexbryant5138 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ll be damed by how realistic this race was with all the spin outs and crashes to what it was like in the movie and irl.

  • @Madude62
    @Madude62 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I give this Le Man race
    7/10
    Should’ve added the Le Mans OST from GRID
    it would’ve made the final minutes intense

  • @TorkBjork
    @TorkBjork 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Challenge: listen to the everything is awesome radio on fh4 when it comes out for as long as possible

    • @Petrik_33
      @Petrik_33 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      He won't be able to show it tho,cuz of copyright

  • @psmv3
    @psmv3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The Boys At Ferrari: hEy gUys wEs GonNa wIn 24 hOuRs oF Le mAns
    The Boys At Ford: Aw oof here we go again.
    Me and the boys watching the trailer:

    • @abramo7700
      @abramo7700 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You forgot the funny!

  • @itzmoody5131
    @itzmoody5131 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This took ages and finals you’ve uploaded it , thx for the amazing content nick

  • @roguejf4969
    @roguejf4969 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yo when the Lego expansion comes out you better beat Raymon in every event
    No pressure bro.
    Ps. Love your vids.♥️

  • @chituron
    @chituron 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fun fact: I was at the ferrari museum in Italy yesterday and saw the P3!

    • @SoftServeNeo
      @SoftServeNeo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really a fact but....
      Ok

  • @Theredsith29
    @Theredsith29 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    3:32 “You guys are morons.” Lol 😂

  • @s1mplyevan461
    @s1mplyevan461 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So are we just gonna forget about the legend Ken Miles?

  • @CRFJosh
    @CRFJosh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you crashed it kinda looked like the movie lol

  • @Avetho
    @Avetho 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just ate a half-eaten bag of sweet chili heat doritos that were sitting on my shelf in the folded up chip bag since January. They were dry but good. Now I'll wait several hours to see if that was such a good idea as I thought it was.

  • @bassinidiot168
    @bassinidiot168 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That movie was the only one that made me cry

  • @r1sen23
    @r1sen23 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't wait for the next video

  • @truckercarter09
    @truckercarter09 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just won a Ferrari 250 lm from a wheelspin hasn't even been touched

  • @NGC-7635
    @NGC-7635 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Oh no, looks like Nick has had a catastrophic steering failure..in his brain”

  • @parkeryocum6830
    @parkeryocum6830 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yay love the vid!

  • @thatinsaneshelbyguy5722
    @thatinsaneshelbyguy5722 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG THIS IS THE VIDEO I SUGGESTED FOR NICK TO DO!!! THANKS NICKEYPOO!!!

  • @taitadamson7498
    @taitadamson7498 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your videos, they can really make my day!!

  • @FatCat2007
    @FatCat2007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the le man circuit was actuallt way different back in the day they had no porsche curves or ford chicanes

  • @D-Man_Jam
    @D-Man_Jam 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Next do a Chevy VS Ferrari.

  • @atticussternke6124
    @atticussternke6124 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your vids keep up the good work

  • @liambaker2163
    @liambaker2163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Ford went 220 at Le Mans faster than the others but was harder to control

    • @topgun1457
      @topgun1457 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      well not as hard as the one in fm7 as the mk2 we have in Forza is the road model not the racing version

  • @jimmyboy3616
    @jimmyboy3616 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi

  • @bloba2938
    @bloba2938 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    13:53 Now that is a moment that I want to see irl races a neck to neck battle

  • @Brenno-oy7br
    @Brenno-oy7br 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    P wan Sebastian, that’s peeeeeee wan

  • @GigaKubica88
    @GigaKubica88 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The track was very different in 66 btw

    • @SoftServeNeo
      @SoftServeNeo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well no shit

    • @the_one_titan3381
      @the_one_titan3381 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who knew that in the past 53 years the track has changed

  • @Jeffbonfro1
    @Jeffbonfro1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should take these cars and put them on Daytona (in game)

  • @alexferris7260
    @alexferris7260 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    KEN MILES WON IN MY HEART

  • @FatCat2007
    @FatCat2007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    should of added ferrari 250 LM and porsche 904 for more realism

  • @fireprofcargo
    @fireprofcargo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5th place i call that a win

  • @ajmproductions6766
    @ajmproductions6766 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:20. 10/10 driving

  • @nokiaquality4796
    @nokiaquality4796 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Movie made me cry for the first time in 2 years. I fucking love car history so it hits hard

  • @shitwagon
    @shitwagon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Planning on getting forza horizon... what do you all think

    • @steppmatt5044
      @steppmatt5044 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Korbin William do it

    • @theodorskundberg1864
      @theodorskundberg1864 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Korbin William you should, its a amazing game, 10/10

    • @alextunstall6912
      @alextunstall6912 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should get it definitely as long as you like cars 😂

  • @MJY5drives
    @MJY5drives 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:20 *spoiler*
    Just make the car that hit him a Porsche and have the rear hatch pop up after the spin and you have a movie seen

  • @chrisvarone5211
    @chrisvarone5211 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOVE!!! You videos

  • @jamesschirano8598
    @jamesschirano8598 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ford should make an F1 car and 50 years from now people will make movies about that

  • @tuckerjackson9485
    @tuckerjackson9485 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fun fact ken miles slowed down for Bruce miclarin and the other ford gt40 which lead to Bruce’s “win” because he was a little further then ken miles

  • @owenheybroek170
    @owenheybroek170 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nobody:
    Car TH-camrs: FORD VS FERRARI

  • @RxntOverduu
    @RxntOverduu 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nobody:
    Nick: this is what the movie is all about

  • @alexharvey7362
    @alexharvey7362 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:25 Vettle at Silverstone

  • @slipperrr2601
    @slipperrr2601 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your vids

  • @amberharris5027
    @amberharris5027 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nick: I have worse brakes then he does
    Me: did you even see the movie

  • @ste.3785
    @ste.3785 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's not the old circuit from 66 that's the modern circuit with no chicanes and blue lines to show people where the tarmac happens to be

  • @Grismuckbangs
    @Grismuckbangs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    hi nick i love the ferrari
    ¨'

  • @ketrab6757
    @ketrab6757 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ohh yeah i would love to see in forza like historical races

  • @twisteddemon1266
    @twisteddemon1266 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What did you guys rhink about the movie Ford vs Ferrari

  • @itskimi7327
    @itskimi7327 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice thumbnail 👀

  • @the_one_titan3381
    @the_one_titan3381 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You gotta be Ken Miles to drive the Ford GT40 correctly lol

  • @fryzzlefox5148
    @fryzzlefox5148 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 1966 ford gt40 isn't actually that hard to drive in game. People just dont know how to drive it proper.

  • @mcguirereid7226
    @mcguirereid7226 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that porsche was the street version so it wouldn’t even be close to keeping up

  • @coolfeet1
    @coolfeet1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:55 welcome to le mans

  • @ryandavies7978
    @ryandavies7978 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nah the old circuit had a lot less corners, the current circuit has 38 corners, the 60s circuit had 12

  • @supergaming69420
    @supergaming69420 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    do like f1 calender off the tracks in fm7 and do teams with paintjobs on the f1 cars

  • @TheScottw1
    @TheScottw1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was awesome

  • @GAMINGOBRIEN69
    @GAMINGOBRIEN69 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do a drift challenge with tire ware on and damage on and drag slicks and see how long you last

  • @mayuravirus6134
    @mayuravirus6134 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    IRL '66 GT40 after few hours it has brake fade and literally they change brakes completely

    • @bouncingshot
      @bouncingshot 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      yet they still won lemans for like 4 years, even after ken miles died while testing the GT40

  • @liamscottcarrion
    @liamscottcarrion 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hey nick

  • @nickross8549
    @nickross8549 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice vid 👍

  • @tellynole5959
    @tellynole5959 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow I've never seen so many people into a wall lol good job everyone

  • @dominickirkwood
    @dominickirkwood 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love it my boy nick keep up work and love video 💯💯💯💯💯💯👍

  • @RobertYayo
    @RobertYayo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They pronounced bruce McLaren the winner, but World knows Ken Miles won😞

  • @zsoltgorog1831
    @zsoltgorog1831 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    In Le Mans 66' there was the Ferrari 330 P3 but every game there is the P4, the P4 is much better than GT40 MK. II. (Like 67' Daytona). So there isn't any game where you can do the 1966 Le Mans, Asseto Corsa have P4 and MK. IV. so there you can do the 1967 Le mans

  • @flapflapflapflap
    @flapflapflapflap 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never knew Kimi Raikkönen drove for Ford!

  • @WhiteOut.1
    @WhiteOut.1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fun fact the Ferrari had worse braking because ford switched out the whole brake system instead of just the pads

  • @billyhouston7019
    @billyhouston7019 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My fav TH-camr

  • @Flowering_nights
    @Flowering_nights 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Luke let Nick pass for the championship.

  • @Flowering_nights
    @Flowering_nights 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If that is actually Kimi Raikkonen then Kimi you will not have the drink.

  • @DriversSeatReview
    @DriversSeatReview 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please can you do classic f1 cars next!

  • @oscarp386
    @oscarp386 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was the person who accidentally crashed into Nick when he fucked up, this fucked up my race as I was gaining on Jack and Brenno before and after the incident. I eventually finished 3rd after my long pit stop, oh yeah I started last btw