Both are still clearly protecting the panel after the chemical applications. They are still sheeting water quicker than bare paint, they aren't gone simply because they've stopped beading it's just their water repelling traits have changed.
Hi Jimbo, strip the masking tape and inspect the colour difference after you're done with the test. You may kill a coatings hydrophobicity, like you just did, but once it's fully cured, you won't strip it with an APC.
@@autodetailingpodcast kill hydrophobicity does not equal strip. Polish half of the coated panel with a medium cut polish and see the difference in colour/depth/gloss. This will tell you if you have stripped it or just killed the repellency.
You were supposed to crosshatch the application of the sonex.. after your first water test you could see that the beads are not as high as they should have been
I’m sure you’ve got this question before but realistically speaking when am I going to be getting any of those chemicals on the paint to cause the paint protection to be diminished or stripped off? I feel like spraying salt, calcium chloride, and such used on the roads for winter months is a real test. I’ve used Sonax Polymer Netshield before and have washed the same car 6 months later after it’s gone through a rough winter and it’s beading water as strong as the day I put it on. I guess my question is how do those chemicals simulate real world results other than the adams iron remover. And even in that case, if I’m doing that I expect that to remove or diminish the paint protection because the only times I’m usually using that product is to apply a sealant and/or ceramic coating.
Please fix the water leak. It gets your shoes wet, etc. I nearly always put on my waterproof Vans when I wash vehicles. Waterproof shoes is a must-have for Detailers.
This is really strange. PNS is much stronger than this. You can beat it with APC mtiple times and still it goes ... How did you strip the firsr wetcoat coat? No contact on PNS side ? Have to admit. Its first time I see someone trowing iron rover on it...not something I would do in real life. Even stjarnegloss first isnt a match for PSN. You have to hit it multiple times. I let PND Cure for 1-2 minute before buffing. But I work it in a little longer. Multiple passes en first buff 1 minute after first contact to paint.
Sonax really did not work with that iron remover. I think I read that it is recommended to use after each wash. A can that size would do that multiple times. Oh well, good to know. Thanks.
Dylan Douglas good point .. so glad I’m not the only one thinking how cheesy a car looks with beads all over !!! I’m thinking the Sonax net shield is the winner here
nice comparison jimbo. at those prices .not a fan of either especially at those prices Meguiar's Ultimate fast finish looking better and better each day Angie on wet can kiss my ass.lol.hope this finds u and family well.
Wear a proper respirator...you can do a voiceover like Apex detail does... Your killing your lungs, kidneys and liver with all these harsh chemicals 😔 oh and great video as always!
Uh....no, not quite. You're assuming that household (family) children cannot be controlled and a studio must set up instead of arranging for them to be amused somewhere else other than 1 foot from the camera. Since $$ is to be made from the broadcast of the videos (the amount proportional to the readership), it is as sensible to have your own kids screaming in the background as to set up a lesson in the pathway of an um-pah band. I just feel that out of respect for the speaker (who is trying to convey important concepts) it is not ok for this to be going on in the background. Bob
I don't know about the other viewers, but I try to pay close attention to what is being said by the person demonstrating the product/technique/whatever. This guy's videos invariably sound as if they are being held next to a school for wayward children - the noise, the interruptions, etc. Would it not be realistic to expect that the kids be relocated so that a video (from which the commentator hopes to make $$) to avoid obvious interference. It gives a very unprofessional environment to the video. This would never been seen on Apex or Obsessed Garage, for example. On those videos, there is only one person speaking, and it ain't the kids.
Im with you but most parents dont make their kids pipe down or be quiet. Most kids are out of control and loud all the time now but I still enjoyed his comparison as I just ordered Can Coat.
Here is the previous video using Gyeon Can Coat - th-cam.com/video/yZgu4U9pgfk/w-d-xo.html
Both are still clearly protecting the panel after the chemical applications. They are still sheeting water quicker than bare paint, they aren't gone simply because they've stopped beading it's just their water repelling traits have changed.
Hi Jimbo,
strip the masking tape and inspect the colour difference after you're done with the test. You may kill a coatings hydrophobicity, like you just did, but once it's fully cured, you won't strip it with an APC.
I let it fully cure for 7 days and it stripped....
@@autodetailingpodcast kill hydrophobicity does not equal strip. Polish half of the coated panel with a medium cut polish and see the difference in colour/depth/gloss. This will tell you if you have stripped it or just killed the repellency.
Cheap vs Expensive interior series would be sweet.
I got 9 months out of PNS last time, great sealant! amazing hydrophobics!
What kind?
@Rizvi Todikromo I just applied mine today, any cleaning tips?
Can I apply two layers of protection? How long to wait in between??
You were supposed to crosshatch the application of the sonex.. after your first water test you could see that the beads are not as high as they should have been
Women’s hair spray and black spray paint on the outside. Both awesome products on the inside!
depends on what you need it for i guess
I’m sure you’ve got this question before but realistically speaking when am I going to be getting any of those chemicals on the paint to cause the paint protection to be diminished or stripped off? I feel like spraying salt, calcium chloride, and such used on the roads for winter months is a real test. I’ve used Sonax Polymer Netshield before and have washed the same car 6 months later after it’s gone through a rough winter and it’s beading water as strong as the day I put it on. I guess my question is how do those chemicals simulate real world results other than the adams iron remover. And even in that case, if I’m doing that I expect that to remove or diminish the paint protection because the only times I’m usually using that product is to apply a sealant and/or ceramic coating.
Please fix the water leak. It gets your shoes wet, etc.
I nearly always put on my waterproof Vans when I wash vehicles.
Waterproof shoes is a must-have for Detailers.
Finally Jimbo! 😎 A water hose spray nozzle to emulate rain for a more realistic water beading/sheeting test.
thanks for the advice!
PNS is not gone, it's sheats, which is better. In the end it lasted longer than can coat.
This is really strange. PNS is much stronger than this. You can beat it with APC mtiple times and still it goes ... How did you strip the firsr wetcoat coat? No contact on PNS side ?
Have to admit. Its first time I see someone trowing iron rover on it...not something I would do in real life.
Even stjarnegloss first isnt a match for PSN. You have to hit it multiple times.
I let PND Cure for 1-2 minute before buffing. But I work it in a little longer. Multiple passes en first buff 1 minute after first contact to paint.
Good comparison, I would have thought sonax would have lasted longer, I may give the other one a go.
Your dog is licking the polymer infused water off the ground. Is it safe for it?
Comparing apples and pears....Sonax is polymere-based vs. Gyeon a ceramic coating, Si0s.......
That’s what the label says - the results tell a different story
Sonax really did not work with that iron remover. I think I read that it is recommended to use after each wash. A can that size would do that multiple times. Oh well, good to know. Thanks.
Does iron/fall out remover remove sealants?
Geeyawn?
The dog choose the water 💦 😂
Do cheap vs expensive comparing a product of your choice vs new Chemical Guys Hydro charge ceramic spray.
Good idea!
Do gyeon duraflex vs cc36 and megs m188 😎
Cheap versus expensive: Fusso coat Vs Coating, Collinite 845 Vs Ammo Skin, Sonax BSD Vs Beadmaker
im gonna need a bigger panel
@@autodetailingpodcast ha! Not all at the same time 😂
You said Gyeon wrong
When do you think you’ll review Meguiars 3in1 Wax and the new Hybrid Ceramic Wax?
Soon. I’ve been on a bit of a meguiars kick so I’m tying to get some other brands done first
Auto Detailing Podcast thanks for the reply! Love your content, keep it coming!
@@LCrhinoATC thanks man!
25$ for sonax PNS? In germany its much cheaper, around 16€ (~18$). Nice test anyway :)
In Israel its about 12 $ for PNS
Awesome video as usual I wouldn’t mind seeing a product called protect all the see how long it lasts👍
Idk why people r so crazy about ‘’beading’’ I would rather have sheeting... beads stay on the car and dry weird
Dylan Douglas good point .. so glad I’m not the only one thinking how cheesy a car looks with beads all over !!! I’m thinking the Sonax net shield is the winner here
I did some coating and the water beads, but stick on the car body. It becomes water marks.
nice comparison jimbo. at those prices .not a fan of either especially at those prices Meguiar's Ultimate fast finish looking better and better each day Angie on wet can kiss my ass.lol.hope this finds u and family well.
Agreed!
Wear a proper respirator...you can do a voiceover like Apex detail does... Your killing your lungs, kidneys and liver with all these harsh chemicals 😔 oh and great video as always!
I definitely need to get better with that
Why dont you apply it on a vertical panel and leave it outside for 3months then do a test. More realistic
Ain’t no one got time for that
disappointing geyon did not last
Uh....no, not quite. You're assuming that household (family) children cannot be controlled and a studio must set up instead of arranging for them to be amused somewhere else other than 1 foot from the camera. Since $$ is to be made from the broadcast of the videos (the amount proportional to the readership), it is as sensible to have your own kids screaming in the background as to set up a lesson in the pathway of an um-pah band.
I just feel that out of respect for the speaker (who is trying to convey important concepts) it is not ok for this to be going on in the background.
Bob
signing a lease on a studio now!
I still like the results of fast finish better
Me too
Try fast finsh in 2021... it's been neutered and barely lasts a week
so MUFF is still the undisputed winner? lmfao
pretty much hah
Auto Detailing Podcast MUFF or Reload?
I haven’t played with reload much but I would imagine MUFF is pretty hard to beat with all things considered
What is MUFF, guys? Probably can't get it this side of the atlantic!
@Gunt Perkins thank you... yeah, I just looked it up, priced between €25 to €50 online here. Vast price range. I'd say its like $15 over there!
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I don't know about the other viewers, but I try to pay close attention to what is being said by the person demonstrating the product/technique/whatever.
This guy's videos invariably sound as if they are being held next to a school for wayward children - the noise, the interruptions, etc. Would it not be realistic to expect that the kids be relocated so that a video (from which the commentator hopes to make $$) to avoid obvious interference. It gives a very unprofessional environment to the video. This would never been seen on Apex or Obsessed Garage, for example. On those videos, there is only one person speaking, and it ain't the kids.
So are you expecting the guy to sell his house and move so he can do higher quality TH-cam videos?
Im with you but most parents dont make their kids pipe down or be quiet. Most kids are out of control and loud all the time now but I still enjoyed his comparison as I just ordered Can Coat.