Qurʾanic Pagans - Who are the Mushrikun? pt3 w/

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  • @nicholasvaldez8322
    @nicholasvaldez8322 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Thanks Lloyd I appreciate your long form content. I listen to it at work and always look forward to your future sessions.

  • @mr.angelosonassis3069
    @mr.angelosonassis3069 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    The Mandaeans of Iraq and Syria have both a prophet and a book, and Arabs consider them the SABIOON. Today in Iraq and Iran, the name 'Sabian' is normally applied to the Mandaeans, a modern ethno-religious group who follow the teachings of their prophet John the Baptist (Yahya ibn Zakariya). These Mandaean Sabians, whose most important religious ceremony is baptism , are monotheistic , and their holy book is known as the Ginza Rabba . The author of the Koran disliked baptism and thus only one reference to baptism occurs in Koran 2.381, this sole mention suggesting that Allah doesn't need it and has abrogated it.

  • @cascarrabias397
    @cascarrabias397 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Odon, I began to read your book, heck of a book brother.

  • @mr.angelosonassis3069
    @mr.angelosonassis3069 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    In hadiths and Sira, the Ansar are a mysterious group. It is translated as 'Helpers' or 'Auxiliaries' (auxiliary troops). Some scholars believe that the 'Ansar' are actually 'An-Nasar', namely 'The Nasarenes'.

  • @_Moving_Target_
    @_Moving_Target_ 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A very interesting discussion.
    It's very plausible indeed that some part of the narrative and traditions were created in an attempt to explain the context and events of the Qur'an. This may have been a quite natural process rather than an organised conspiracy, as pious believers were simply applying their own inspired or practical speculations of the story behind the story.

    • @LloydDeJongh
      @LloydDeJongh  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Divinely inspired - or reward-earning embellishments that benefit Islam? In other words, lying for reward from Allah.

  • @Yo0264
    @Yo0264 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Give me both presentations

  • @charlesmason-brown4502
    @charlesmason-brown4502 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    4:16 I don’t think putting your baby on a stone is the same as licking it and doing things to it that you would most likely see in an adult magazine

  • @barringtonbennett5885
    @barringtonbennett5885 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Saw-diarabian